[00:12:14] <halfak>	 Finally done!  What a heavy lift that was!  I'm glad to have it complete.  It'll take me another hour or two to convert it to some machine readable format. 
[00:12:41] <halfak>	 I'll probably go for yaml.  I think we can get clever with merging multiple files so we don't need to have a bigass 1500 line file. 
[00:12:52] <halfak>	 *1515 line file ;) 
[00:13:01] <halfak>	 I'm out'a here. 
[00:13:04] <halfak>	 Have a good one!
[00:19:58] <accraze>	 later halfak
[00:20:15] <halfak>	 🤘
[14:38:06] <halfak>	 o/
[15:06:24] <halfak>	 o/ kevinbazira 
[15:06:26] <halfak>	 How
[15:06:29] <halfak>	 's hacking? 
[15:13:34] <kevinbazira>	 halfak o/
[15:14:15] <kevinbazira>	 The hacking is going well. I rebuilt the nowiki models. PR: https://github.com/wikimedia/editquality/pull/217
[15:14:35] <kevinbazira>	 We are still blocked on the deployment to the beta servers
[15:15:07] <kevinbazira>	 ^ for Basque and Catalan models
[15:15:50] <halfak>	 Ahh yes.  I forgot about that.  Can you double check the public keys you have uploaded to wikitech.wikimedia.org? 
[15:16:44] <halfak>	 also, give me a paste of "ssh primary.bastion.wmflabs.org -vv"
[15:19:29] <kevinbazira>	 I'm getting a very long output on "ssh primary.bastion.wmflabs.org -vv". I don't think it will be readable when pasted here.
[15:19:42] <kevinbazira>	 ** easily readable
[15:19:46] <halfak>	 Right.  Please use a paste service. 
[15:20:02] <halfak>	 E.g., https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/paste/edit/form/14/
[15:20:11] <halfak>	 Or https://pastebin.com/
[15:22:46] <kevinbazira>	 Thanks. I've pasted the output here: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/P9803
[15:26:27] <halfak>	 Do any of your keys listed in your preferences at wikitech match what you have for /home/kbazira/.ssh/id_rsa.pub?
[15:27:17] <halfak>	 See https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-openstack
[15:32:59] <kevinbazira>	 Thanks. Checking ...
[15:40:44] <kevinbazira>	 Yes one of the keys listed in my preferences at wikitech match what I have in /home/kbazira/.ssh/
[15:41:23] <halfak>	 Somehow that's not getting picked up.  Maybe it's due to your username. 
[15:41:31] <halfak>	 What is your "shell name" on wikitech?
[15:41:42] <kevinbazira>	 kevinbazira
[15:49:01] <halfak>	 Aha!  Looks like you are trying to log in as kbazira
[15:49:32] <halfak>	 Try ssh kevinbazira@primary.bastion.wmflabs.org -vv
[15:49:52] <halfak>	 (see line 29 in your paste: debug1: Authenticating to primary.bastion.wmflabs.org:22 as 'kbazira'"
[15:55:47] <kevinbazira>	 I'm in \o/
[15:56:22] <halfak>	 Nice.  You can hard code your username in the ~/.ssh/config file so that you don't need to type all of that. 
[15:56:32] <halfak>	 Go ahead and try a deploy to beta and let me know if you get stuck. 
[16:11:34] <kevinbazira>	 halfak based on this documentation: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/ORES/Deployment#Deploy_to_beta when I ssh into deploy01, the directories /srv/deployment/ores/deploy don't exist in my environment. Could I be missing a step?
[16:19:09] <halfak>	 kevinbazira, good Q.  
[16:19:11] * halfak looks. 
[16:20:14] <halfak>	 kevinbazira, I see that directory on the machine. 
[16:20:37] <halfak>	 Are you sure you are ssh'd to "deployment-deploy01.eqiad.wmflabs"
[16:37:48] <halfak>	 kevinbazira, ^ 
[16:51:37] <kevinbazira>	 I managed to get into "ssh kevinbazira@primary.bastion.wmflabs.org -vv" but when I try "ssh deployment-deploy01.eqiad.wmflabs" I get "Permission denied (publickey)" even after adding it to my config
[16:52:46] <halfak>	 kevinbazira, does it look like it's trying to log you in with "kbazira" again? 
[16:53:39] <kevinbazira>	 yep
[16:54:10] <kevinbazira>	 This is what I added to my config.
[16:54:20] <kevinbazira>	 "Host deployment-deploy01.eqiad.wmflabs
[16:54:20] <kevinbazira>	     User kevinbazira
[16:54:20] <kevinbazira>	     IdentityFile ~/.ssh/wikitech2019"
[16:56:21] <halfak>	 That won't get picked up.  You need to add it to the block for bastion. 
[16:56:23] <halfak>	 kevinbazira, ^ 
[17:01:45] <halfak>	 Standup time!
[17:02:36] <halfak>	 Y: I worked on the WikiProject topic taxonomy.  It was cathartic to get a solid technical contribution done. T: I'm working on getting the topic taxon stuff in a machine-readable format and automating some tests.
[17:07:34] <kevinbazira>	 Y: Worked on rebuilding nowiki models: https://github.com/wikimedia/editquality/pull/217
[17:07:48] <halfak>	 I forgot!  T: Also working on API review and supporting Kevin's upcoming deployment
[17:08:06] <kevinbazira>	 T: I went through the ML tutorials then with the help of halfak, I've been trying to ssh into the deployment server so I can deploy the Basque and Catalan models [still blocked but won't give up till I get victory]
[17:08:59] <accraze>	 Y: Worked on JS api client for Jade UI. Almost re-invented the wheel with DIY ajax calls, but found the mw.API module which is making things waaay easier.
[17:10:33] <accraze>	 T: had travel training this morning, also just registered for All Hands 2020, will finish JS API client and then work on oojs-ui components like ProposalWidget and dialog boxes
[17:17:42] <halfak>	 accraze, how does the UI work feel.  Is it starting to come together with a clear plan or is it still a lot of unknowns? 
[17:19:10] <accraze>	 halfak: it's starting to come together, I have a rough roadmap in outlined the current work etherpad
[17:19:20] <accraze>	 outlined in*
[17:19:31] <accraze>	 diffs are still an unknown though
[17:19:47] <halfak>	 Nice.  Let me know if you want to rubber duck something out.  Otherwise, I'll be focused on making progress with Kevin and getting you some review for API stuff. 
[17:20:15] <halfak>	 Oh yes.  I have done some work on diffs.  I can answer high level questions now or provide some design assets by EOD if that'd be helpful. 
[17:23:24] <accraze>	 designs assets are fine, no rush, I've got enough to keep me busy before getting to the diffs though
[17:24:40] <accraze>	 i think the biggest unknown is how to render a diff correctly using ooui, hoping to figure it out while I work on the entity components
[17:32:55] <halfak>	 Oh!  I see. 
[17:33:00] <halfak>	 Yeah, we can't work with wikidata there. 
[17:33:05] <halfak>	 Let me look at WBMI
[17:33:26] <halfak>	 https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File%3AORES_-_Facilitating_re-mediation_of_Wikipedia%27s_socio-technical_problems.pdf&type=revision&diff=372486451&oldid=372486179
[17:33:28] <halfak>	 AHA!
[17:33:40] <halfak>	 It looks like they render diffs in the wikidata style -- which should be similar to us. 
[17:36:18] <accraze>	 ah ok, will poke around a bit there when I get to the diffs
[17:48:58] <halfak>	 Hey kevinbazira, let's discuss the beta deployment you are working on here. 
[17:49:17] <halfak>	 Looks like the scap command completed successfully. 
[17:49:30] <halfak>	 next you want to check https://ores-beta.wmflabs.org to see if it is working as intended. 
[17:49:41] <halfak>	 I suggest you try to pull up model information for the two new models. 
[17:57:03] <kevinbazira>	 when I go to https://ores-beta.wmflabs.org/ui/ and choose euwiki, I see wp10 as one of the models. Is this the editquality model?
[17:58:44] <halfak>	 editquality is "damaging" and "goodfaith"
[17:59:07] <halfak>	 articlequality == wp10.  "wp10" was the original name and we're moving towards "articlequality" 
[18:00:57] <kevinbazira>	 Alright, so when I go to https://ores-beta.wmflabs.org/ui/ and select euwiki I get both articlequality and wp10 as options to choose from
[18:01:44] <halfak>	 Right.  They are essentially duplicates of each other.  
[18:02:09] <halfak>	 If you add "model_info=" to the url, you'll get a result that will let you double-check the model versions. 
[18:14:16] <halfak>	 kevinbazira, ^ 
[18:32:05] <kevinbazira>	 halfak I saw the model versions here: https://ores-beta.wmflabs.org/v3/scores/euwiki/  and  https://ores-beta.wmflabs.org/v3/scores/cawiki/
[18:32:22] <halfak>	 Aha!  I forgot that they were automatically printed out. 
[18:32:31] <halfak>	 Now, do they work? 
[18:32:45] <halfak>	 Could you go find an article in euwiki to test against? 
[18:36:32] <kevinbazira>	 I got this euwiki article https://eu.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bizkaia_Zubia&action=history and picked 7239990. Here are the results: https://ores-beta.wmflabs.org/scores/euwiki/?models=articlequality&revids=7239990
[18:39:08] <halfak>	 Looks like the current model agrees strongly with our new model. https://ores.wikimedia.org/scores/euwiki/?models=articlequality&revids=7239990
[18:39:35] <halfak>	 It's a bit more confident in the "GA" class. 
[18:40:38] <groceryheist>	 hey halfak I'm updating the analysis of bias in editquality models
[18:41:02] <groceryheist>	 my code isn't finding an entry for euwiki in the Makefile though.
[18:41:19] <halfak>	 groceryheist, yeah, we don't have editquality models for euwiki
[20:38:00] <halfak>	 woops
[20:39:24] <apergos>	 ?
[20:41:47] <halfak>	 Forgot to switch my nick when I came back 
[20:47:31] <groceryheist>	 halfak: ah ok
[23:05:20] <groceryheist>	 is there an API to get the current edit quality thresholds?
[23:30:45] <halfak>	 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ORESModels
[23:30:49] <halfak>	 I don't think there's an API. 
[23:32:02] <halfak>	 Yup.  Can't find one.  Sorry 
[23:40:27] <groceryheist>	 ok that's mildly inconvenient