[01:03:22] gotta run and pick up stuff from a friend's house while he's there. [01:03:25] i'll be back online afterward [01:13:08] average_drifter: around? [01:19:43] drdee: I'm here [01:19:56] do you have some sample log lines for me? [01:23:42] drdee: 5m [01:23:47] ok [01:30:18] it's running now [01:32:08] ok [01:32:24] i just need a small sample [01:38:26] drdee: http://stat1.wikimedia.org/spetrea/misc/sample_14dec_mimetype_dash.zip [14:27:46] brb restarting [14:32:56] morning [14:33:13] hey dree [14:33:16] ping average_drifter [14:33:34] hey milimetric [14:33:48] i escaped winter in toronto and now enjoying spring in sf :) [14:33:52] nice [14:34:07] morooonign [14:34:13] winter in Philly is actually very disappointing this year. No biting cold, no big snow [14:34:23] you didn't get the snow of last weekend? [14:34:38] Nah, it was like 3-4 measly inches here [14:34:43] ahh [14:34:44] drdee: hi ! [14:34:45] then it rained and now it's all washed away [14:34:54] I'm thinking of moving to the South Pole [14:35:05] we got a lot [14:35:13] like 30 centimeters [14:35:41] average_drifter: both samples that you gave me are from the period dec 1 -dec 14 [14:35:57] so can you give me the 2nd sample for dec 20 for example [14:35:57] ? [14:37:11] drdee: yes [14:37:14] moment [14:40:18] hey ottomata how's the haproxy doing? need help with setting up SSL? [14:41:46] naw, i'm working on that right now [14:41:56] gonna do apache, just cause I thikn I'm going to use apache later more anyway [14:44:19] cool [15:24:06] drdee: http://stat1.wikimedia.org/spetrea/misc/new-sample-14dec-before-after.zip [15:24:17] password sent in pm [16:37:26] yo ottomata [16:37:39] is this a good day to deploy the new filter :D :D : D [16:43:04] drdee: http://stat1.wikimedia.org/spetrea/misc/top_200_referers_december_after__14dec.txt [16:43:17] drdee: http://stat1.wikimedia.org/spetrea/misc/top_200_referers_december_before_14dec.txt [16:43:56] www.insuranceandhealth.com ?? [16:44:08] ? yea.. [16:44:14] no idea how it got there [16:44:18] but it's there [16:45:41] drdee: they seem to have some sort of mirror http://bit.ly/X2nOm7 [16:46:27] oh it's a lame content farm [16:46:41] they just use our content and put ad's around it [16:46:56] also wn.com scores very high [16:47:03] probably something similar [16:47:16] yes [16:47:48] ok relocating brb [16:48:05] and this is for all of december http://stat1.wikimedia.org/spetrea/misc/top_200_referers_december-2012.txt [16:53:11] I think that we need to build a tool called, "absurdism". [16:53:54] morning preilly [16:54:04] drdee: good morning [16:54:36] see you in 10 :) [18:03:31] we are on our way [18:06:33] ottomata: ? [18:06:39] scrummm [18:07:06] oooOOOps [18:33:43] dschoon: are you okay with the meetings being flip-flopped? [18:33:51] which meetings? [18:34:21] dschoon: e.g., not doing Kraken Security and Data Retention Review today [18:50:55] i am not dschoon, but I am ok with that [18:51:07] preilly, dschoon, correct me if I'm wrong, but those meetings might just flow together anyway [18:51:22] security kinda requires understanding of architecture [18:51:41] so it seems like what we need is a general discussion on how things work and/or how they should or should not work [18:59:09] yeah [18:59:15] the plan is to just talk about it all in the meeting [18:59:25] and figure out among us exactly what we want to cover today [18:59:56] ^^ ottomata preilly [19:00:44] ja [19:00:49] dschoon I can talk whenev [19:01:18] cool -- finishing my sandwich [19:06:16] ottomata: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/3c932ed6f473e64903400bfa8ca8c46b70f8e262 [19:07:18] (ah sorry, one sec phone) [19:08:18] np [19:11:15] ottomata? [19:12:36] coming [19:12:38] hangout being weird [19:46:07] just fyi, i've got the hangout set up if anyone wants to join now. https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/20382b2df1da85847705f77c1b5dc90101d8f3f3 [20:02:31] etherpad: http://etherpad.wmflabs.org/pad/p/KrakenSecurityReview [20:49:50] ottomata: can you restart apache on stat1 please ? [20:50:12] ottomata: I put a .htpasswd and a .htaccess in /home/spetrea/www/private [20:50:22] ottomata: and I think apache needs to be restarted for them to take effect [20:55:26] ottomata: AllowOverride All is also necessary I think [21:02:39] (sorry, in meeting) [21:06:39] ok [22:11:00] ottomata, milimetric, drdee could i get your help in reconstituting notes about the meeting for an email? [22:11:27] mostly the part about creating an overview of what was covered -- http://etherpad.wmflabs.org/pad/p/KrakenSecurityReview [22:11:41] i think it would pay to be thorough :) [22:13:55] jaja [22:14:00] ty! [22:14:33] i think the most important bit it just to summarize what will happen in the next couple of months [22:14:43] I will work to get the puppet stuff reviewed and in production [22:14:46] in the meantime [22:14:57] we will not open up access to any kraken services to anyone without shell accounts [22:15:00] okay. i think i have captured all that in the etherpad [22:15:06] if you want to read through and update it [22:15:07] hey [22:15:07] that'd be great [22:15:08] omg [22:15:10] finally done [22:15:14] imported 43 graphs [22:15:17] heh, grats, milimetric [22:15:19] linky? [22:15:23] not up yet [22:15:26] still brain hurt [22:15:33] became robot for short period of time [22:15:35] must humanize [22:15:56] uh, I'll send you notes about the meeting [22:16:07] oh right, and mark's walling off of analytics cluster [22:16:08] there's an etherpad :) [22:16:10] we didn't talk about that in the meeting [22:16:11] wish we had [22:16:30] yeah, there was a lot still on the plate [22:17:07] I don't think we need to worry about an arch review until its time to reinstall the machines [22:17:12] at that point we should have everything in puppet [22:17:32] and most of the relevant ops guys will know the details, because they will have helped review the puppet confs [22:17:47] i think we need arch review way before that. [22:17:57] because it's about the *why*, not the *what* [22:18:18] yeah, i guess so [22:18:20] so, an example that came up, do we need hue? [22:18:28] do we need a dashboard for scheduling jobs? [22:18:32] that sort of thing. [22:18:34] ah ok [22:18:36] i think. [22:18:38] hm, yeah i guess so [22:18:43] at least, that seemed to be what i heard [22:18:48] but mark seemed uninterested, until the stuff is in puppet [22:18:50] ahhh chicken and egg [22:18:51] hence me wanting y'all to help put notes together [22:18:53] right. [22:18:57] but what goes in puppet? [22:19:00] yep. [22:19:08] i dunno, i guess….i can recreate kraken in labs w puppet [22:19:14] i think that would help [22:19:18] because then they could poke at it [22:19:21] sure. [22:19:24] so, uh. [22:19:39] i guess i'll write up an email and you guys can review it. [22:19:44] ok [22:20:15] keep it short and sweet though, i think these guys just skim over the long ones [22:20:20] mk [22:20:22] good point [22:22:31] yeah, ok. asked around. just action items and conclusions will be good. [22:49:40] !log First Limn version of DarTar's dashboards created at https://github.com/wikimedia/limn-editor-engagement/ [22:49:55] dschoon ^ [22:50:05] wooo [22:50:10] will check it out momentarily [22:50:11] writing :) [22:50:29] no labs instance for it yet, I'm not sure if we should create one manually or wait to puppetize Limn first [22:50:36] will ask dario sometime [22:50:43] * milimetric is off duty now [23:06:41] ottomata, drdee, milimetric, robla, kraigparkinson -- Could y'all read over http://etherpad.wmflabs.org/pad/p/KrakenSecurityReview to make sure it's reasonable? [23:18:59] hahah [23:18:59] ** Andrew to come pow-wow before the SF Ops hackathon and buddy it up with ops to plow through some of this. [23:19:02] love it [23:19:13] david, nice email [23:19:15] i like it a lot [23:19:15] send it [23:19:18] i'm out for the eve! [23:19:35] thanks, good to hear [23:23:06] drdee? [23:23:14] signoff desired :) [23:24:01] yes i think it's good to go