[11:43:56] (PS1) QChris: Whitespace cleanup [analytics/geowiki] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/84306 [11:43:57] (PS1) QChris: Add "global_south_editor_fractions" to geowiki [analytics/geowiki] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/84307 [11:43:58] (PS1) QChris: Use basedir's "global_south.csv" to compute editor fractions [analytics/geowiki] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/84308 [11:43:59] (PS1) QChris: Reuse global limn group to generate editor franctions [analytics/geowiki] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/84309 [11:55:05] (PS1) QChris: Remove "mobile" part [analytics/global-dev/dashboard] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/84310 [11:55:06] (PS1) QChris: Remove "geowiki" part [analytics/global-dev/dashboard] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/84311 [11:55:07] (PS1) QChris: Move editor fraction computations to geowiki [analytics/global-dev/dashboard] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/84312 [12:02:14] (CR) QChris: [C: -1] "This change depends on" [analytics/global-dev/dashboard] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/84312 (owner: QChris) [13:39:19] Yoyo [13:39:21] Ottomata [13:39:35] I think you have something that's mine [13:39:41] ...... [13:39:45] My power cord [13:39:53] I am going to apple store [13:40:01] Because i have no power [13:40:57] Qchris awesome work on the geo dashboards! [13:41:28] milimetric: Did you fix the oauth redirect for Wikimetrics ? [13:41:48] i still can't see the problem drdee [13:41:48] Most parts are still waiting review :-) [13:42:07] I'm a little jetlagged but I'll get on it first thing today qchris [13:43:03] milimetric: Oh sorry. That was not meant to put pressure on you. I was referring to drdee message. [13:43:13] oh, no, it's been way too long [13:43:13] milimetric: Take your time with the reviews. [13:43:29] I finished my work and the reviews should get priority now [13:43:40] Cool :-) [13:43:42] Thanks [13:43:49] so the only problems now are me being very sleepy and me not knowing anything about gerrit [13:43:52] :) [13:44:27] I cannot sleep for you :-) But if gerrit gets in the way, let me know. [13:44:52] milimetric: Refresh your cache [13:46:46] qchris: can you visit https://metrics.wmflabs.org And tell us if you get a red screen of death? [13:47:14] drdee: I get a certificate warning. Yes. [13:47:21] Link [13:47:23] Oink [13:47:38] And if you clear your cache? [13:48:22] yeah, drdee, cleared caches, tried different computers, browsers, etc. I think whatever you guys did, you must've either rolled it back or only applied it for your laptops or something [13:48:41] Is YuviPanda|zz in da house? [13:48:48] No it was not rolled back [13:48:53] drdee: Same warining after clearing all caches. [13:49:13] And it was not a special config thing either [13:49:15] Ok [13:49:36] We will have to what for YuviPanda|zz [13:51:27] Ok going to apple store in 5 minutes [13:51:30] First [13:51:47] Coffeetime! [13:52:27] http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uPRFq7e5Kss&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DuPRFq7e5Kss [14:08:06] hello [14:15:24] hi drdee , milimetric [14:15:41] morning average [14:15:54] i'm a little jetlagged still so I'm half-asleep [14:16:24] but I remember last week you were having some problems [14:16:55] it was hard to help with all the scheduled stuff, but maybe we can work on it now [14:17:02] sure [14:17:44] (PS1) Milimetric: edits metric has timeseries support [analytics/wikimetrics] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/84323 [14:18:05] (CR) Milimetric: [C: 2 V: 2] edits metric has timeseries support [analytics/wikimetrics] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/84323 (owner: Milimetric) [15:02:55] On the mailing list, there was a request for analysis according to indic languages. [15:03:02] We had some such data in global-dev/dashboard-data [15:03:18] But that has seen it's last update for en of January. [15:03:28] It it did not have any customers. [15:03:49] Do we know if that data is/was good? How it has been generated? [15:21:01] qchris: do you mean no customers as in no customers in WMF? [15:22:00] Nemo_bis: "No customers" as in "We asked 'is anyone using that data'" and no one spoke up. [15:22:17] So we do not know if anyone is using that data. [15:22:29] (Which does not mean, no one is using it) [15:22:57] (But it's way out of date January 2013. So I guess no one has interest in that part of the data) [15:29:40] qchris: actually they have just pinged the analytics list [15:29:55] (I thought that was why you mentioned it) [15:29:56] I didn't create that part of the program [15:30:07] http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/analytics/2013-September/000995.html [15:30:08] Nemo_bis: :-) [15:30:48] Yes. I was curious if the others of the team know whether we could refer to that data on list. [15:30:50] Probably they missed the notice where you asked people to review a list of thousand(s) data files :P [15:31:06] Ah ok :) [15:48:48] yo [15:48:52] average around? [15:55:37] dr0ptp4kt: saw my email? [15:56:16] drdee, yes, gonna run through all of email, then come back to that. may require the espresso to set in. [15:56:27] sounds reasonable! [16:06:05] qchris: can you have a look at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/84338 [16:06:51] drdee: Sure. [16:06:56] ty [16:08:49] ottomata! [16:08:57] i think you have something that i dearly missed [16:10:05] drdee: yeah [16:10:07] drdee: hi [16:10:25] awesome! what's cooking? [16:10:39] drdee: date arithmetic paraphernalia [16:11:06] as long as 1+1=3 you will be fine [16:11:56] :) [16:13:58] qchris: :( [16:16:49] drdee: Mhmm. [16:17:02] what/ [16:17:04] drdee: I raised those points before. [16:17:18] right let's do hangout with milimetric. [16:17:30] i am neutral on this point [16:17:45] milimetric, qchris: to the batcave! [16:17:55] argh [16:17:57] Who of us get's do be Robin? [16:18:03] the bat cave link is no longer functinoal [16:18:15] we need a new batcave! [16:18:29] i'll be Robin, the eternal apprentice [16:18:38] Ah yes. I noticed the batcve problem on friday :-) [16:18:54] Noooo. I want those flashy clothes. [16:19:39] new bat cave link: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/d323e054dd82ae5b4e2bd6f5a923c3b6fd51a086 [16:19:43] k, joining [16:24:10] should I join the batcave too ? [16:32:29] sure [16:33:45] but I'm not allowed [16:46:29] mmmm [16:46:36] what's your email address? [16:46:52] stefan.petrea@gmail.com [16:51:25] drdee, i replied [17:00:32] average: scurm [17:02:07] drdee_: tried to join [17:02:13] it says "the party's over" [17:02:19] new link: [17:02:24] https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/d323e054dd82ae5b4e2bd6f5a923c3b6fd51a086 [17:02:43] it says I'm not allowed to join [17:02:53] drdee_: ^^ [17:03:35] what's your email address? [17:03:42] stefan.petrea@gmail.com [17:04:05] sent invite [17:04:27] thanks [17:04:30] I'm there [17:33:48] drdee: hey [17:33:48] hey milimetric [17:33:50] still https warnings? [17:34:01] yup [17:34:25] is milimetric still in the office? [17:34:29] no [17:34:35] we are all back in cyberspace [17:34:43] oho [17:34:52] can you pastebin the output of 'dig wikimetrics.wmflabs.org'? [17:34:57] sure [17:34:58] 1 sec [17:35:29] http://pastebin.com/NfkPsZab [17:35:54] i dig wikimetrics.wmflabs.org [17:36:12] we all do [17:36:25] drdee: yeah, so I see 'wikimetrics.wmflabs.org. 3600 IN A 208.80.153.190 ' [17:36:28] which is correct [17:36:32] and hence https works fine for you [17:37:06] ohhh duhhhh [17:37:11] drdee: so I'd need that from milimetric [17:37:13] to see what's up [17:37:21] so the problem is that the original dns was metrics.wmflabs.org [17:37:36] milimetric: ^^ [17:37:42] lol [17:37:54] hey guys, I'm in a meeting [17:38:03] I will get back to you after it's over [17:38:04] drdee: so I need to get rid of wikimetrics. and add metrics.? [17:38:12] YuviPanda, drdee_ ^^ [17:38:16] ok :) [17:38:51] yuvipanda yup [17:39:47] haha [17:39:48] ok [17:40:22] drdee: i need ryan for that, so needs to wait a bit [17:40:26] i'll do it when i find him [17:41:31] k [17:53:37] qchris_away: pushed updated change set to gerrit [17:56:40] hey YuviPanda, I'm back [17:56:44] hey milimetric [17:57:02] oh gotcha, so you changed wikimetrics.wmflabs.org? [17:57:03] milimetric: can you post output of 'dig metrics.wmflabs.org' [17:57:03] ? [17:57:10] milimetric: yeah, not metrics. :D [17:57:36] metrics.wmflabs.org. 0 IN A 199.101.28.20 [17:58:17] wikimetrics.wmflabs.org. 3600 IN A 208.80.153.190 [17:58:50] yep, makes sense, so you just need to change that to metrics. and I saw you need to wait for Ryan on that [17:59:05] no rush, but thanks for the help [17:59:09] YuviPanda: ^ [17:59:32] milimetric: ryan just changed it but [17:59:36] so should be fixed in a bit [18:01:46] milimetric: so wait until the cache clears, and it should work fine :) [18:09:29] cool, thanks YuviPanda [18:09:40] milimetric: let me know if it doesn't work in like 30 mins [18:09:45] cool [18:10:22] hm, it seems Google has severely damaged permanent hangouts [18:35:42] drdee: milimetric https://metrics.wmflabs.org/ works for me :) [18:36:40] awesome YuviPanda [18:36:58] milimetric: how about enabling SSL by default for all visitors? [18:39:15] drdee: milimetric let me know if you guys run into any issues :) [18:41:49] qchris: read http://www.maxmind.com/en/ipv6 [18:42:52] i don't think there is a subscription option for the ip6 database [18:43:30] milimetric: ^^ [18:56:00] drdee_, YuviPanda, http(s)://metrics.wmflabs.org/ works for me, without warning or anything [18:56:07] woo :) [18:56:07] ty very much YuviPanda [18:56:24] milimetric: how about enabling ssl by default? [18:56:38] yeah, we should do that [18:57:46] ottomata: could you force all traffic on metrics.wmflabs.org to go through SSL? [19:06:31] i think so ja [19:06:31] hang on [19:07:15] k [19:07:31] drdee_ regarding the ipv6 databases. So you think we should get them with the IPv4 databases? [19:07:40] yes, if at all [19:07:49] i am not sure if those are getting updated regurarly [19:08:00] the site is not very clear about it [19:08:02] We have such databases ... So they seem to exist at least. [19:08:08] yes they exist [19:08:14] Yes, that's why I asked on the mailing list :-) [19:08:15] I'm not familiar with it so I didn't fix it in case I made it worse [19:08:29] Argghhh CommanderData! [19:08:33] but you cannot buy a subscription for the ip6 databasse [19:08:34] :D [19:08:47] CommanderData, always there when you need it [19:09:01] Let's see what ottomata comes up with :-) [19:11:25] where does CommanderData get his quotes ? [19:11:40] experience [19:11:57] :) [19:13:13] i'm not sure where GeoIPv6.dat comes from [19:13:55] ottomata: Whom could we ask about it? [19:14:09] ottomata: Or do I just ask on the ops mailing list? [19:15:02] well it comes from maxmind :) [19:15:10] right, but how did it get on stat1002, for example [19:15:13] it is not puppetized [19:15:21] we probably copied it manually [19:16:02] yeah i guess so [19:17:49] And where did we get the file from? [19:21:42] average: http://developerexcuses.com/ [20:02:08] hey average, are you around? [20:02:43] drdee_: I'm right here [20:02:48] cool [20:03:21] happy birthday stefan [20:03:30] Happy Birthday Stefan! [20:03:42] thank you Diederik , Christian :) [20:05:41] happy birthday stefan [20:05:56] i really mean it :) [20:06:15] :) [20:06:20] * milimetric wonders when Stefan's going to think something's up [20:07:27] happy birthday stefan [20:07:28] Happy Birthday to You [20:07:28] Happy Birthday to You [20:07:28] Happy Birthday dear stefan [20:07:39] hah ! nice [20:07:51] :-DDD [20:07:54] now you have to blow out the virtual cake [20:08:20] * average blows out all the 27 candles [20:08:31] * milimetric claps [20:08:32] yay [20:08:36] * qchris applauds [20:08:39] Yippie! [20:08:44] okay and now without bugs [20:08:52] happy birthday stefan [20:08:52] Happy Birthday to You [20:08:52] Happy Birthday to You [20:08:52] Happy Birthday dear stefan [20:08:52] Happy Birthday to You!!!! [20:08:52] HipHop HOOOORAY, HipHop HoOrAAY!!!! [20:08:53] La Multi Ani!!!! [20:09:18] that only took 4 attempts [20:09:20] multumesc :) that's nice [20:09:25] i had to dwongrade CommanderData [20:09:26] it's like multilingual :) [20:09:30] because he does not speak unicode [20:13:26] (CR) Milimetric: [C: 1] "+1 is temporary until I'm up to speed with all patchsets. I'll +2 and merge once I see the big picture." [analytics/geowiki] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83809 (owner: QChris) [20:26:58] (CR) Milimetric: [C: -1] "(1 comment)" [analytics/geowiki] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83810 (owner: QChris) [20:27:30] ugh, ignore that qchris [20:27:42] serves me right for reviewing these so late [20:27:50] your very next patchset fixes the comment [20:28:49] milimetric: I have to admit that I wrote the whole file in one go and then realized that it is too big to review in one go. [20:29:07] milimetric: Hence I chopped it down into smaller portions. :-/ [20:29:08] (CR) Milimetric: [C: 1] "never mind, Christian added the json extension in a future patchset." [analytics/geowiki] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83810 (owner: QChris) [20:29:39] that makes sense, I will now read until the end before reviewing any more [20:31:29] you know, an idea would be to have limn serve a sitemap in / [20:31:38] where it puts every dashboard, with every graph [20:31:55] I think I wanted this like the second week I was on the project and David convinced me against it somehow [20:32:03] Hehe. [20:32:09] * milimetric feels free from the reality distortion [20:32:44] Such a sitemap would be good for many things [20:33:17] But I guess it's rather low priority [20:33:43] yeah, it's really easy to write though [20:33:55] like 20 minutes + making it pretty [20:34:07] and a lot of people are asking about that for other reasons [20:34:12] drdee, check http://metrics.wmflabs.org [20:34:12] and [20:34:14] so I'll suggest it [20:34:20] does https://metrics.wmflabs.org still work? [20:34:26] milimetric: I am all for it. [20:34:29] no [20:34:32] it's 404-ing ottomata [20:34:43] which? [20:34:45] both [20:34:48] hm [20:35:29] hows https now? [20:35:33] milimetric^ [20:35:52] 404 [20:36:00] but i do get the favicon (could be cached) [20:36:12] yeah, it's cached [20:55:28] (CR) Milimetric: [V: 1] Whitespace cleanup [analytics/geowiki] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/84306 (owner: QChris) [20:55:54] drdee, YuviPanda, milimetric. if the ssl proxy is elsewhere [20:56:00] we can just remove the public IP from this machine [20:56:02] indeed! [20:56:08] k [20:56:29] YuviPanda: can you change your proxy so that it proxies to 10.4.0.75:80 [20:56:30] ? [20:56:32] or [20:56:35] better [20:56:42] wikimetrics.pmtpa.wmflabs:80 [20:56:42] ? [20:56:47] ottomata: that is what it does now :) [20:56:57] oh, great [20:57:03] https://metrics.wmflabs.org [20:57:58] ottomata: let me know if you want to migrate more things [20:58:05] ottomata: giving back public IPs is a good thing! [20:58:33] YuviPanda: are you sure it proxies to the private IP? [20:58:47] ottomata: it proxies to wikimetrics.pmtpa.wmflabs [20:59:01] ok [20:59:01] hm [21:00:48] (CR) Milimetric: [C: 1] Reuse global limn group to generate editor franctions [analytics/geowiki] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/84309 (owner: QChris) [21:01:48] (CR) Milimetric: [C: 1] Use basedir's "global_south.csv" to compute editor fractions [analytics/geowiki] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/84308 (owner: QChris) [21:05:26] ottomata: let me know if something goes wrong :) [21:07:23] ok, not sure what is happening yet [21:08:03] (CR) Milimetric: [C: -1] "(1 comment)" [analytics/geowiki] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/84307 (owner: QChris) [21:08:16] (CR) Milimetric: [C: 1] Update monitoring for data up to 2013-09-10 [analytics/geowiki] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83814 (owner: QChris) [21:09:55] (CR) Milimetric: [C: -1] "(1 comment)" [analytics/geowiki] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83813 (owner: QChris) [21:10:03] (CR) Milimetric: [V: 1] Add monitoring of datasources [analytics/geowiki] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83812 (owner: QChris) [21:10:07] errrrgh this is actually kinda annoying, because there are other proxies out there, aaahhhh [21:10:10] i might have to do this with iptables [21:10:12] (CR) Milimetric: [C: 1] Add monitoring of graphs [analytics/geowiki] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83811 (owner: QChris) [21:10:45] (CR) Milimetric: [C: 1] "got the wrong score" [analytics/geowiki] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/84306 (owner: QChris) [21:11:12] (CR) Milimetric: [C: 1] "got the wrong score" [analytics/geowiki] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/82414 (owner: QChris) [21:11:39] (CR) Milimetric: [C: 1] "got the wrong score" [analytics/geowiki] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/82415 (owner: QChris) [21:11:48] (CR) Milimetric: [V: 1] "got the wrong score" [analytics/geowiki] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83809 (owner: QChris) [21:11:58] (CR) Milimetric: [V: 1] "got the wrong score" [analytics/geowiki] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83810 (owner: QChris) [21:12:05] milimetric: Stop pinging me with your reviews. :-P I can hardly type without getting my focus stolen. [21:12:06] (CR) Milimetric: [V: 1] "got the wrong score" [analytics/geowiki] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/84309 (owner: QChris) [21:12:14] (CR) Milimetric: [V: 1] "got the wrong score" [analytics/geowiki] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/84308 (owner: QChris) [21:12:21] (CR) Milimetric: [V: 1] "got the wrong score" [analytics/geowiki] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83814 (owner: QChris) [21:12:27] (CR) Milimetric: [V: 1] "got the wrong score" [analytics/geowiki] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/84307 (owner: QChris) [21:12:34] (CR) Milimetric: [V: 1] "got the wrong score" [analytics/geowiki] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83813 (owner: QChris) [21:12:44] (CR) Milimetric: [V: 1] "got the wrong score" [analytics/geowiki] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83811 (owner: QChris) [21:12:50] (CR) Milimetric: [C: 1] "got the wrong score" [analytics/geowiki] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83812 (owner: QChris) [21:13:27] ok qchris, just two small things in the deluge of spam above [21:13:28] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/project:analytics/geowiki+status:open,n,z [21:14:37] milimetric: Your comments sound like, we should do a hangout? [21:18:05] qchris: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/6b6d1304293fa834f47cbc33f9a9a4e1e0d86986 [21:18:45] milimetric: Ok. Joining you [21:20:02] qchris: not sure if I need to invite you, I forget how you set up Google + [21:20:17] btw, i'm in ops meetings for rest of today [21:20:21] and afternoons tomorrow and wed [21:24:35] (CR) Milimetric: [C: 1] Add "global_south_editor_fractions" to geowiki [analytics/geowiki] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/84307 (owner: QChris) [21:34:07] (CR) Milimetric: [C: 1] Add monitoring of datafiles [analytics/geowiki] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83813 (owner: QChris) [21:36:30] (CR) Milimetric: [C: 2 V: 2] Allow to pass MySQL config and database to make limn files from [analytics/geowiki] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/82414 (owner: QChris) [21:36:47] (CR) Milimetric: [C: 2 V: 2] Whitespace cleanup [analytics/geowiki] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/84306 (owner: QChris) [21:37:06] (CR) Milimetric: [C: 2 V: 2] Add script for cron to make limn files and push them [analytics/geowiki] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/82415 (owner: QChris) [21:38:49] (CR) Milimetric: [C: 2 V: 2] Add "global_south_editor_fractions" to geowiki [analytics/geowiki] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/84307 (owner: QChris) [21:39:01] (CR) Milimetric: [C: 2 V: 2] Use basedir's "global_south.csv" to compute editor fractions [analytics/geowiki] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/84308 (owner: QChris) [21:39:12] (CR) Milimetric: [C: 2 V: 2] Reuse global limn group to generate editor franctions [analytics/geowiki] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/84309 (owner: QChris) [21:39:41] (CR) Milimetric: [C: 2 V: 2] Add skeleton for script to monitor geowiki-data files [analytics/geowiki] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83809 (owner: QChris) [21:39:51] (CR) Milimetric: [C: 2 V: 2] Add monitoring of dashboards [analytics/geowiki] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83810 (owner: QChris) [21:40:04] (CR) Milimetric: [C: 2 V: 2] Add monitoring of graphs [analytics/geowiki] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83811 (owner: QChris) [21:40:18] (CR) Milimetric: [C: 2 V: 2] Add monitoring of datasources [analytics/geowiki] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83812 (owner: QChris) [21:40:46] (CR) Milimetric: [C: 2 V: 2] Add monitoring of datafiles [analytics/geowiki] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83813 (owner: QChris) [21:41:00] (CR) Milimetric: [C: 2 V: 2] Update monitoring for data up to 2013-09-10 [analytics/geowiki] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/83814 (owner: QChris) [21:42:35] qchris, milimetric: i love the smell of +2 in the irc channel! [21:52:11] (CR) QChris: "Blocking change has been merged" [analytics/global-dev/dashboard] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/84312 (owner: QChris) [22:17:54] average, are you gonna celebrate tonight?