[16:32:46] <ori>	 hola nuria, happy holidays
[17:00:00] <nuria>	 holaaa
[17:05:12] <ori>	 nuria: have you been able to access vanadium?
[17:05:49] <nuria>	 yes, got vanadium access, gerrit access, i am all set
[17:06:20] <nuria>	 still I would like to test changes in the beta instance right?
[17:06:42] <ori>	 sure, if you like. the beta instance is... (looking through notes)
[17:07:22] <ori>	 I-00000733, or deployment-eventlogging
[17:08:33] <ori>	 the varnish host is I-00000437, serving as http://bits.beta.wmflabs.org/
[17:10:30] <nuria>	  ssh deployment-eventlogging?
[17:10:48] <ori>	 if you're on the labs bastion
[17:12:26] <ori>	 this is how i have it configured in ~/.ssh/config:
[17:12:30] <ori>	 https://dpaste.de/02yj/raw
[17:12:51] <ori>	 you'll have to change IdentityFile = ~/.ssh/your/labs/key
[17:12:55] <ori>	 to refer to your actual key
[17:13:10] <ori>	 and, actually, you'll have to change the line "Host bastion-restricted.wmflabs.org" to "Host bastion.wmflabs.org"
[17:13:39] <ori>	 but once you do that, you should be able to "ssh deployment-eventlogging.labs" from your home computer
[17:14:33] <nuria>	 but on bastion if i do
[17:14:56] <nuria>	 nuria@bastion1:~$ ssh  deployment-eventlogging
[17:14:56] <nuria>	 If you are having access problems, please see:https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Access#Accessing_public_and_private_instances
[17:14:56] <nuria>	 Permission denied (publickey).
[17:15:40] <ori>	 gah, labs is so screwey
[17:15:44] <ori>	 let me take a look, just a moment
[17:16:22] <ori>	 well, no -- you're not forwarding your key
[17:16:30] <ori>	 how did you connect to bastion.wmflabs.org?
[17:16:48] <ori>	 you should ssh with 'ssh -A bastion.wmflabs.org'
[17:18:06] <ori>	 or, better yet, just put both keys in bastion
[17:18:20] <nuria>	 I tried but still, permission denied
[17:19:01] <nuria>	 mmm wait
[17:20:08] <nuria>	 my ssh config looks very much like yours
[17:21:10] <ori>	 nuria: i'll pm
[17:21:10] <nuria>	 https://dpaste.de/xr44
[20:12:30] <halfak>	 DarTar: I have some feedback on the metric page structure.  How should I deliver this?  Bold edits?  Discussion here or elsewhere?
[20:12:41] <DarTar>	 hey
[20:12:52] <DarTar>	 I was just replying on the template
[20:13:08] <DarTar>	 you mean the list of metrics?
[20:13:11] <DarTar>	 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Standardized_user_classes ?
[20:13:33] <halfak>	 Na.  Actual metric pages.
[20:13:43] <halfak>	 E.g. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:New_editor
[20:13:50] <DarTar>	 ha, ok,
[20:14:17] <DarTar>	 I was thinking that it's safer to hack a pretty straightforward page like Newly registered users
[20:14:33] <DarTar>	 but then that page doesn't have any interesting parameter-related discussions
[20:14:53] <DarTar>	 so New editor might be a good start
[20:15:29] <halfak>	 OK.  Would you like me to sandbox structural changes or just make 'em?
[20:15:33] <DarTar>	 I also thought that the supportive research probably belongs to a different page
[20:15:38] <DarTar>	 just go ahead and edit
[20:15:46] <halfak>	 OK.
[20:15:50] <DarTar>	 maybe if you have a sec,
[20:16:00] <halfak>	 I kind of like that the analysis lives in the metrics page.
[20:16:07] <DarTar>	 why don't we sketch on a pad what are the desired requirements for such a page?
[20:16:14] <halfak>	 Sounds good.
[20:16:28] <halfak>	 http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Metrics_page
[23:15:59] <DarTar>	 milimetric: yt?