[07:46:43] Nemo_bis: what do you think about the whole DNT thing? My opinions are less firm now than they were a week ago. It seems like the right thing to do to provide a sticky opt-out option from all data collection, but the DNT spec is not ambiguous: it's about third-party tracking. So I don't know in the end whether it's appropriate to hijack it, based on the assumption that it is commonly misunderstood. [08:38:03] ori: I've not looked into the details of DNT. I think it's like all self-discipline initiatives, they start from a conscious core in an attempt to spread best practices and they die when their credibility is exhausted. [08:39:27] Nemo_bis: I'm not sure I understand. Do you think all such measures are meaningless unless enforced by external oversight? In the case of EventLogging, at least, it would be quite easy to verify that no data is being sent. [08:39:46] If it was clearly specified, it could be a law instead. We don't know yet how it will end. In the meanwhile we should do what we feel most responsible, for what we feel is our share in the future of DNT (which might be nothing, dunno). [08:40:11] I mean that it's a living specification, probably [08:40:34] There are many competing initiatives in this area [08:40:35] yeah, but it's not ambiguous on this point [08:40:45] nothing widely implemented [08:41:02] Are you sure? [08:42:42] There is a huge group of online advertisers which has a similar thing (but cookie based, heh). Several other mechanisms for opt-out. And EFF's privacy badger, which is probably going to get huge once release [08:42:46] d [08:43:10] * ori hasn't heard of the last one [08:43:46] maybe it's the wrong spec, then. [19:27:59] Analytics-Engineering: Copy paid MaxMind geolocation dbs to tool labs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87151#984931 (Ironholds) NEW [19:48:03] Analytics-Tech-community-metrics, Wikimedia-Git-or-Gerrit: Active code review users on a monthly basis - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86152#984947 (Umherirrender) All developer have the right to leave, in that case the statistic maybe is lost or needs rewrite from another user or the wmf. When the stati... [21:08:22] (PS1) QChris: Add pagecounts-raw computation to pagecounts-all-sites [analytics/refinery] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/185708 [22:08:09] (PS1) QChris: Switch pagecounts-all-sites/archive to raw datasets [analytics/refinery] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/185781