[00:03:00] Jdlrobson: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T225578 [00:04:13] 10Analytics, 10Analytics-EventLogging, 10Analytics-Kanban, 10MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.19; 2020-02-11), 10Performance-Team (Radar): EventLogging needs to enque events to avoid draining users' battery on mobile - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T225578 (10Nuria) [01:14:29] 10Analytics, 10Analytics-Kanban, 10Product-Analytics: Technical contributors emerging communities metric definition, thick data - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T250284 (10jwang) In the meeting with @Bmueller last week, she is interested in the editor trends by wiki and how it correlated with the growth o... [07:35:31] 10Analytics-Clusters: Review an-coord1001's usage and failover plans - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T257412 (10elukey) Added TLS for Airflow and Superset. Also tested TLS for hive-metastore -> mysq (ref: https://aws.amazon.com/premiumsupport/knowledge-center/ssl-hive-emr-metastore-rds-mysql/) but I keep get... [11:25:48] 10Analytics-Clusters, 10Operations, 10ops-eqiad: analytics1050 host + mgmt down - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258370 (10elukey) p:05Triage→03Medium [11:26:12] started https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Analytics/Systems/DB_Replica [11:26:23] (yes we have replication working now! \o/) [11:37:54] * elukey lunch! [12:25:11] 10Analytics, 10Product-Analytics, 10Release-Engineering-Team, 10Repository-Admins: Create a repository and user for Product Analytics Oozie jobs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T230743 (10mpopov) a:05mpopov→03elukey @elukey: Is it okay if I assign you for the user creation part? (The repository par... [12:26:46] 10Analytics, 10Product-Analytics, 10Release-Engineering-Team, 10Repository-Admins: Create a repository and user for Product Analytics Oozie jobs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T230743 (10mpopov) [12:27:26] 10Analytics, 10Product-Analytics, 10Release-Engineering-Team, 10Repository-Admins: Create a repository and user for Product Analytics Oozie jobs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T230743 (10mpopov) [12:45:46] (03CR) 10Joal: "> Please remember that this needs a manual update" [analytics/refinery] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/614819 (owner: 10Mforns) [12:51:42] ( * ^ *) ノシ [12:53:45] hm - hello? [12:53:58] :) [13:02:58] heya team! [13:03:06] 10Analytics, 10Analytics-EventLogging, 10Analytics-Kanban, 10Discovery: SearchSatisfaction has validation errors for event.query - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T257331 (10Ottomata) a:05Ottomata→03None I don't think the client is doing the right thing either, this is a validation error due to the w... [13:19:37] 10Analytics, 10Analytics-Kanban, 10Event-Platform: Refine drops $schema field values - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T255818 (10Ottomata) a:03Ottomata [13:31:37] (03PS5) 10Mforns: Fix project field of geoeditors public monthly and semantics [analytics/refinery] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/593246 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T244597) (owner: 10Lex Nasser) [13:36:19] !log Refine no longer merges with Hive table schema when reading (except for refine_eventlogging_analytics job) - T255818 [13:36:21] Logged the message at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Analytics/Server_Admin_Log [13:36:22] T255818: Refine drops $schema field values - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T255818 [13:40:28] (03PS6) 10Mforns: Fix project field of geoeditors public monthly and semantics [analytics/refinery] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/593246 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T244597) (owner: 10Lex Nasser) [14:01:57] 10Analytics, 10Product-Analytics, 10Release-Engineering-Team, 10Repository-Admins: Create a repository and user for Product Analytics Oozie jobs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T230743 (10elukey) it is yes, I'll bring this up during the next SRE meeting! Thanks for the patience :) [14:08:25] ottomata: o/ [14:08:43] I have created https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Analytics/Systems/DB_Replica, when you have a moment lemme know if it is clear or if it is missing something [14:38:00] question to oozie ninjas: can you override with -D a property that is passed explicitly by the coordinator? [14:38:43] mforns: yes i think so [14:39:02] thanks ottomata :] [14:41:29] 10Analytics-Clusters, 10Analytics-Kanban, 10Patch-For-Review, 10User-Elukey: Repurpose db1108 as generic Analytics db replica - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T234826 (10elukey) Today me and Manuel (well, more Manuel :P) set up the replication between matomo1002 and an-coord1001 to db1108, all good! I w... [14:47:06] (03PS1) 10Ottomata: Refine - Quote SQL columns used in selectExpr in TransformFunctions [analytics/refinery/source] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/615231 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T255818) [14:58:28] !log Refine - reverted change to not merge hive schema + event schema before reading - T255818 [14:58:30] Logged the message at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Analytics/Server_Admin_Log [14:58:30] T255818: Refine drops $schema field values - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T255818 [15:08:32] !log yarn.wikimedia.org migrated earlier on to CAS auth [15:09:04] Logged the message at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Analytics/Server_Admin_Log [15:10:44] (03PS2) 10Ottomata: Refine - Quote SQL columns used in selectExpr in TransformFunctions [analytics/refinery/source] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/615231 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T255818) [15:14:10] 10Analytics-Clusters: Review an-coord1001's usage and failover plans - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T257412 (10elukey) Added documentation to https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Analytics/Systems/Cluster/Mysql_Meta [15:21:58] dcausse, gehel - table is ready for our meeting later (https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Joal/WDQS_Traffic_Analysis) [15:22:18] joal: great thanks! [15:22:20] dcausse, gehel - I'll be a few minutes late, I'll give my standup updates and join [15:22:23] joal: great! [15:22:46] joal: there are 20 minutes of Wikidata stuff before we are on [15:22:59] dcausse, gehel - In comparison to what I showed you, only the asnalysis for "what if we reduced blazegraph timeout to 10s" section has been added [15:23:22] yup, I know gehel, this is why I assumed it was ok for me to go to standup before :) [15:24:14] also, there is no aspect of "query-parsing" in there, I'm gonna put another doc session on that (and actually another analysis session) after holidays [15:24:20] ok taking a break before meetings [15:31:02] (03CR) 10Ottomata: "Tested a Refine with this and it works now." [analytics/refinery/source] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/615231 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T255818) (owner: 10Ottomata) [15:31:14] joal: when you have a moment: ^ [15:31:16] not urgent [15:31:23] would like it to go out with next deploy [15:59:42] (03CR) 10Joal: [C: 03+1] "Works for me - I think I'd have liked a quoteField function, but there is no real value to that as code-length is equivalent, quoting char" [analytics/refinery/source] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/615231 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T255818) (owner: 10Ottomata) [16:01:44] ping milimetric [16:01:59] elukey: sorry ya read over looks good! [16:04:43] Oh no! mforns I messed up yesterday - We should have restarted the main unique-computation jobs, not the cassandra ones :( [16:04:49] meh :( [16:04:54] I'm sorry for that [16:05:19] Oh... well I was the one to do that [16:05:34] (03PS7) 10Mforns: Fix project field of geoeditors public monthly and semantics [analytics/refinery] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/593246 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T244597) (owner: 10Lex Nasser) [16:16:29] nuria: yeh i know they dont fire right away, but what we're seeing is them not firing at all when events that occur before and after are seen firing away (in the network tab) [16:16:48] We are also however not seeing them show up in the database which suggests they are getting lost [16:17:14] i wondered if there is any security policy in chrome around events when you change domain [16:19:10] also wondering if we're using a queue of any sort and that's breaking with a domain change [16:19:22] Firefox has no problem [16:20:38] I can cut a bug if it's helpful [16:20:47] with replication steps [17:11:17] Jdlrobson: back [17:12:23] Jdlrobson: ah i see, you are changing domains [17:14:47] Jdlrobson: and did you put some breakpoints on the events that drain the queue? (visibility and page hide?) [17:19:26] mforns: about unique-jobs, can you restart them or do you prefer me to do it? [17:19:38] I can do that, which ones? [17:19:50] joal: do we still need to backfill? [17:20:23] mforns: unique-devices per_domain daily and monthly [17:20:31] mforns: I'll rerunning the backfill now [17:20:50] Or mforns, you can start the job from yesterday? [17:20:53] the daily one? [17:20:57] ok [17:21:04] not the monthly? [17:22:16] monthly should be started from July [17:22:20] mforns: --^ [17:22:27] ok ok [17:22:28] mforns: the monthly has been backfilled already [17:22:32] thanks :) [17:22:54] a-team running home back in a little while... [17:27:04] joal: there's a request on wiki-research-l (https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wiki-research-l/2020-July/007315.html) for an API that maps QIDs to page IDs. while we don't have that, we do have your fantastic item_page_link table that probably would help them quite a bit. it's private though -- do you know of any phab tickets / discussion for making that public as it's otherwise incredibly painful to build a comprehensive [17:27:04] dataset of qid <-> pid + wiki_db? [17:27:58] isaacj: I have not seen that ticket yet - Please make one :) [17:28:24] 10Analytics: Data ake incremental Data sources - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258511 (10Nuria) [17:28:34] isaacj: the job of making that data available shouldn't be too complicated, and it's definitely not PII :) [17:29:04] joal: sounds good, thanks :) [17:29:09] ok team - need to drop for tonight - Will see you tomorrow :) [17:29:11] Jdlrobson: I implemented the queue, and there was one instrumentation problem that we didn't foresee. Do file a task with a link to your instrumentation that's not working as needed. cc nuria [17:30:34] milimetric: there was a bug before in code that was working prior to queue (cc Jdlrobson ) and the code had a bug in ALL browsers [17:30:54] milimetric: this does not seem at all related given that events work in FF [17:31:52] Jdlrobson: I think it would help to see (to narrow issue) if events are being sent at all [17:31:54] probably, I'd like to see the specific instrumentation and try it out, there are differences in tab visibility events between the two browsers [17:32:26] Jdlrobson: Can we try two things [17:33:17] Jdlrobson: 1) put some code/debug in the visibility/ page hide event and see if it is triggered [17:33:29] Jdlrobson: let me send you teh place, one sec [17:34:00] !log restarted unique_devices-per_domain-daily-coord [17:34:02] Logged the message at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Analytics/Server_Admin_Log [17:34:17] Jdlrobson: https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-EventLogging/commit/5b750c24babd5409f24a7cc4c3d7c8ce5ad0097f#diff-a83abaf29fef6f655aebb83ec875cf76R53 [17:37:31] 10Analytics, 10Analytics-EventLogging: Events being lost in Chrome when navigating to an external URL - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258513 (10Jdlrobson) [17:37:37] milimetric: nuria https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258513 [17:37:37] Jdlrobson: so let's see if events are being triggered (for both browsers) cause if they are not triggered equally in your case that is our problem [17:37:40] (one sec) [17:37:54] ^ that's the issue i made a MTC [17:38:00] thx! [17:38:21] please let me know if you can replicate the issue [17:42:23] 10Analytics: Make Wikidata item_page_link table available publicly - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258514 (10Isaac) [17:42:25] * elukey off! [17:51:10] joal: the monthly one gives this weird error, have you seen before? Error: E0701 : E0701: XML schema error, cvc-complex-type.2.4.a: Invalid content was found starting with element 'data-in'. One of '{"uri:oozie:coordinator:0.4":output-events, "uri:oozie:coordinator:0.4":action}' is expected. [17:56:13] uou, there's an error in the code [17:56:13] 10Analytics, 10Product-Analytics, 10Structured Data Engineering, 10Structured-Data-Backlog (Current Work): Instrument MediaSearch results page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258183 (10CBogen) Adding a note here that we also want to instrument and measure concept chips once those are ready (T256431).... [17:56:53] 10Analytics, 10Analytics-EventLogging: Events being lost in Chrome when navigating to an external URL - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258513 (10Milimetric) Hm, I see the event when I prevent default, as in: ` $('').attr('href', 'https://wikimedia.org').on( 'click', function (e) { mw.eventLog.logEvent(... [17:57:14] Jdlrobson: reproduced ^ looking into it [18:02:58] (03PS1) 10Mforns: Fix coordinator typo for unique devices per domain monthly [analytics/refinery] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/615274 [18:04:02] (03CR) 10Mforns: [V: 03+2 C: 03+2] "Self-merging to unbreak production." [analytics/refinery] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/615274 (owner: 10Mforns) [18:05:52] 10Analytics, 10Analytics-EventLogging: Events being lost in Chrome when navigating to an external URL - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258513 (10Milimetric) This is tricky to debug because breakpoints don't fire in neither Firefox nor Chrome. But you can clearly see the event on the network tab in Firefox... [18:05:57] !log re-deploying refinery to unbreak unique devices per domain monthly [18:05:59] Logged the message at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Analytics/Server_Admin_Log [18:18:32] ottomata, elukey: help :S refinery scap deployment fails weirdly: it deploys to canary OK, it deploys to the rest of the hosts OK, but then it re-tries the canary again and it fails! [18:18:37] hello! [18:18:42] that's weird [18:18:49] Plus it doesn't give you the option to rollback [18:19:05] wanna bc? [18:19:23] scap log says there's a permission error [18:19:36] OSError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/srv/deployment/analytics/refinery-cache/revs/8b7bddf2923062db5a889c77424250d11c2857b2/python/refinery/__pycache__/__init__.cpython-35.pyc' [18:19:47] huh... [18:20:47] I was about to manually rollback, by git reset --hard to the latest commit, but I suspect the error will prevail [18:20:49] yeah on stat1007 files in that dir are owned by root [18:20:55] lemme remove that file [18:20:57] dir [18:20:58] k [18:21:13] try again mforns [18:21:17] doin [18:21:51] ottomata: it worked, thanks! [18:22:14] phew [18:22:14] weird [18:22:29] thin worked fine [18:30:37] !log finished re-deploying refinery to unbreak unique devices per domain monthly [18:30:38] Logged the message at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Analytics/Server_Admin_Log [18:48:05] 10Analytics, 10Wikidata: Make Wikidata item_page_link table available publicly - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258514 (10Lydia_Pintscher) [19:04:40] (03CR) 10Mforns: [V: 03+2] "I tested the job and it works well, checked that data looks complete and well formatted." [analytics/refinery] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/593246 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T244597) (owner: 10Lex Nasser) [19:06:23] 10Analytics, 10Analytics-Kanban, 10Patch-For-Review: Configure Oozie job for loading geoeditors data into Cassandra - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T248289 (10mforns) a:05Milimetric→03mforns [19:52:59] 10Analytics: Data Lake incremental Data Updates - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258511 (10Nuria) [19:53:54] 10Analytics: Data Lake incremental Data Updates - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258511 (10Nuria) [19:54:29] 10Analytics: Data Lake incremental Data Updates - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258511 (10Nuria) [19:55:59] 10Analytics, 10Product-Analytics: Get "edits hourly" on a daily basis - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T231938 (10Nuria) [19:56:02] 10Analytics: Data Lake incremental Data Updates - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258511 (10Nuria) [20:35:30] 10Analytics: [SPIKE] Prototype of incremental updates for mediawiki history for simplewiki , including reverts using apache hudi - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258532 (10Nuria) [20:37:54] 10Analytics: Data Lake incremental Data Updates - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258511 (10Nuria) [20:37:56] 10Analytics, 10Platform Team Workboards (Green): MW REST API Historical Data Endpoint Needs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240387 (10Nuria) [20:40:57] 10Analytics, 10Platform Team Workboards (Green): MW REST API Historical Data Endpoint Needs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240387 (10Nuria) ping to @WDoranWMF that team will start working on {T258532} the upcoming quarter which is a foundational block for the work of being able to serve up to date data t... [20:48:28] 10Analytics, 10Product-Analytics, 10Research: Annotate pageview data to alert users that previously included mobile app pageview data is NOT included in refined pageview datasets - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258535 (10kzimmerman) [20:48:42] 10Analytics, 10Product-Analytics, 10Research: Annotate pageview data to alert users that previously included mobile app pageview data is NOT included in refined pageview datasets - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258535 (10kzimmerman) [20:48:44] 10Analytics, 10Analytics-Kanban, 10Product-Analytics, 10Epic: API pageview counts for 'Mobile app' are incorrect since switch to mobile-html - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T256508 (10kzimmerman) [20:51:29] 10Analytics, 10Product-Analytics, 10Research: Annotate pageview data to alert users that previously included mobile app pageview data is NOT included in refined pageview datasets - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258535 (10kzimmerman) @leila @nuria where should we add annotations so people are aware of th... [20:53:46] 10Analytics, 10Product-Analytics, 10Research: Annotate pageview data to alert users that previously included mobile app pageview data is NOT included in refined pageview datasets - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258535 (10kzimmerman) [20:59:37] 10Analytics: Update PageviewDefinition to only include /api/rest_v1/page/mobile-html requests with X-Analytics: pageview=1 in pageviews - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T257860 (10SNowick_WMF) Note: @Charlotte, @JMinor, and @SNowick_WMF agree with switching to only counting pageview=1 requests. Heads up @Tse... [21:16:03] 10Analytics, 10Product-Analytics, 10Research: Annotate pageview data to alert users that previously included mobile app pageview data is NOT included in refined pageview datasets - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258535 (10Nuria) @kzimmerman, place is here: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Analytics/Da... [21:18:49] 10Analytics, 10Product-Analytics, 10Research: Annotate pageview data to alert users that previously included mobile app pageview data is NOT included in refined pageview datasets - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258535 (10Nuria) The definition page does not need to be updated. [21:33:09] 10Analytics, 10Analytics-EventLogging: Events being lost in Chrome when navigating to an external URL - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258513 (10jlinehan) >>! In T258513#6323556, @Milimetric wrote: > > But, as you report, in Chrome, if I let the navigation happen, the event is never fired. In Firefox, it... [21:34:24] ottomata: yt? [21:34:36] ya but about to leave ! [21:34:37] whats up? [21:34:40] ottomata: I am seeing the EL requests [21:34:46] ottomata: doing POSTS [21:34:46] (will be back in 1.5 hrs) [21:34:49] ok [21:34:54] ottomata: rather than GETs [21:35:09] ottomata: for EL schemas, like , say, VirtualPageview [21:35:22] ? [21:35:37] ottomata: EL requests shoudl always be GET ones [21:35:49] ottomata: did we changed that amillion years ago and i forgot? [21:36:13] ottomata: maybe i totally forgot ... [21:36:40] no, [21:36:42] where are you seeing that? [21:36:54] EL shoudl only do POSTs for legacy EL schemas that are configured to do so [21:36:55] right now [21:37:01] only TemplateWizard and SearchSatisfaction [21:37:13] ottomata: look at en.wikipedia.org [21:37:25] ottomata: and see what is being sent by apgepreview [21:37:34] ottomata: * by a page preview [21:37:49] ottomata: maybe i am seeing things [21:38:19] OH, i do see POST...but the event is in the query paramz [21:38:19] hm [21:38:21] i mean [21:38:25] it is just using sendBeacon [21:39:45] nuria [21:39:49] i guess that is what sendBeacon does? [21:39:51] i just did [21:39:59] navigator.sendBeacon("https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Tich") [21:40:00] ottomata: ahhhahhhh [21:40:04] (that is the random aarticle i went to) [21:40:06] and also got a POST [21:40:07] ottomata: totally senior moment [21:40:16] i guess i always assuemd it was GET too [21:40:21] but it is POST with query params [21:40:23] ottomata: ya, metoo [21:40:26] ok gotta run! [21:40:27] o' [21:40:29] ciao [22:20:10] 10Analytics-Clusters, 10Operations, 10ops-eqiad, 10User-Elukey: replace onboard NIC in kafka-jumbo100[1-6] - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T236327 (10Jclark-ctr) @elukey can you let me know your availability for scheduling this project? [22:20:48] 10Analytics, 10Analytics-Kanban: Hadoop Hardware Orders FY2019-2020 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T243521 (10Jclark-ctr) [22:43:30] 10Analytics, 10Analytics-EventLogging: Events being lost in Chrome when navigating to an external URL - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258513 (10Nuria) Could it be that both browsers might be sending the request , it is just only visible in FF? Given that request is sent when page transition is a relative... [22:43:38] Jdlrobson: see my last note on ticket [22:47:28] Jdlrobson: and let me know if you want/can do that test [22:51:24] 10Analytics, 10Analytics-EventLogging: Events being lost in Chrome when navigating to an external URL - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258513 (10Jdlrobson) @nuria that example works fine - the issue is inside mw.eventLog.logEvent not sendBeacon which suggests the issue is within the EventLogging handler pe... [23:00:18] 10Analytics, 10Analytics-EventLogging: Events being lost in Chrome when navigating to an external URL - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258513 (10Nuria) >that example works fine in both Chrome and Firefox Right, i know. I was trying to suggest that you do what you are doing to now while overriding the se... [23:27:57] sorry nuria not following your line of thought. Are you suggested we workaround the issue? to be clear when I use your example I am seeing activity in the network tab. [23:35:33] Jdlrobson: i want to make sure the requests are indeed not being sent [23:35:47] Jdlrobson: rather than them not being shown on teh network tab [23:35:59] Jdlrobson: makes sense? [23:37:39] Jdlrobson: requests to EL get sent to: https://en.wikipedia.org/beacon/event, if you change that url and make it http://localgost:8888 (if you are testing in vagrant) we can rule out teh case where requests are being sent but not logged [23:38:38] So to clarify what I'm seeing... 1) I see the events in the network tab 2) they are being logged on my end [23:39:06] With the example I posted, 1) I do not see events in the network tab 2) they are not being logged on my end [23:39:29] So I suspect Jason's theory that Chrome is behaving slightly different with the visibility events is likely [23:40:48] sorry if that wasn't clear [23:42:23] Jdlrobson: i understand , in order to test whether they are not being logged (but sent) [23:42:48] Jdlrobson: there is couple things we can do [23:43:00] Jdlrobson: did you tested that (just to rule out this change?) [23:46:50] 10Analytics, 10Analytics-EventLogging: Events being lost in Chrome when navigating to an external URL - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258513 (10Nuria) >I tested it in Vagrant real quick and it looks like when reproducing the bug, Chrome is not firing visiblitychange or pagehide or unload Only when moving... [23:47:38] Jdlrobson: cause it really seems odd that events fired for relative links will be different than events fired on a domain transition (possible, but odd) [23:51:10] agreed it's odd. I did once find a bug where Firefox was triggering the document ready event twice despite the spec saying it should only ever fire once :). [23:51:41] Jdlrobson: that is why i wanted to test whether events are *send* [23:51:47] Jdlrobson: but not shown [23:51:52] Jdlrobson: makes sense? [23:52:51] Jdlrobson: yt? [23:53:00] Jdlrobson: are you working on vagrant?