[08:02:03] <jynus>	 Krenair, they proxy the misc services, which are only on eqiad, for the most part
[11:56:22] <jynus>	 Krenair: T109116, I am not ok about implementing a SPOF, so we need to either buy more or completely get rid of them. They are useful, however, for maintenance
[11:57:22] <jynus>	 AaronSchulz, check my comments on T116557, partitioning may be the solution
[11:57:48] <jynus>	 (but please go to bed first)
[12:00:18] <JohnFLewis>	 jynus: does tendril need to be on neon or is that just how it happened/just there? (Off topic :))
[12:01:15] <jynus>	 I need more background to answer that
[12:01:31] <jynus>	 is there an issue?
[12:02:02] <jynus>	 tendril is "mostly" on db1011
[12:02:02] <JohnFLewis>	 jynus: not really an issue. Just wondering :)
[12:02:39] <jynus>	 on neon there is only a web frontend, but the heavylifting is done on db1011
[12:02:47] <JohnFLewis>	 Because if tendril on neon is just the front end, when it eventually comes (or before) may be worth separating it from the Icinga machine into a vm
[12:03:05] <JohnFLewis>	 *comes to replacing neon
[12:03:09] <jynus>	 ok
[12:03:33] <jynus>	 it doesn't matter, there is only a few php scripts there
[12:03:45] <JohnFLewis>	 It was just an idea I had last night and want to know if it need to be where it is for a reason. Mind I put it in phab?
[12:04:01] <jynus>	 why do you want to move it?
[12:05:22] <JohnFLewis>	 I have no vested reason at all. It just seems like s good candidate for a vm than space-sharing with icings as other services on neon were decom'd. It'll move to have a icinga-only server which would be good considering the state of neon right now
[12:05:57] <JohnFLewis>	 I'm was just thinking again and a VM for it when bare metal isn't needed is always great :)
[12:06:05] <jynus>	 ok, when that happens, we will move it
[12:06:29] <jynus>	 not before, what if tendril dissapears before that happens?
[12:07:25] <JohnFLewis>	 Well technically it'll be moved off the server then ;)
[12:08:06] <jynus>	 add whatever ticket you want, they will get lost here: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/database/
[12:12:32] <JohnFLewis>	 jynus: well https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117034 anyway :)
[14:42:03] <jynus>	 In the future, please keep this channel for db-related stuff. Infrastructure stuff is discussed on #wikimedia-operations