[07:31:54] qgil: as per your comment in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T126961#2034750 -- should I go around adding in the Possible-Tech-Project tags to those tasks blocked in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90870; with a message ? [07:34:47] tonythomas, hi, I would propose to do so, yes, but first please share your intentions in the task, and ask for Lydia's opinions. [07:35:01] She is organizing the Wiidata area very well, and we don't want to mess with her processes. [07:35:15] I expect her to agree with the idea, but it is better to ask first. :) [07:35:32] qgil: alright. I will do that :) [07:36:40] and, the new update of phab is just great! [07:37:15] :) I haven't got there yet today [07:37:59] qgil: heh. Loads of things I wish were there ( like username suggestions in comments, other projects too listed in the project work-board ) and more. [07:38:00] wow [07:43:32] qgil: was there some documentation on what makes a GSoC/Outreachy project - like - taking an experienced developer 3 - 5 weeks to complete or something like that ? I have read that somewhere, but cant find it right now :9 [07:54:02] tonythomas, we have been saying that good internship projects should take about 2 weeks for a senior developer, but I cannot find this documented anywhere either. [07:54:14] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Outreach_programs/Life_of_a_successful_project would be the right place, feel free to add it. I think it is a good rule. [07:56:47] qgil: true. I wanted to have a filtered result from Lydia, as some of the tasks in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90870 seems not to fit the 2 month duration. [08:09:08] tonythomas, this is a key point, worth mentioning in your reply to Lydia. [08:18:14] qgil: yeah. and Niharika too made that clear in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T126961#2038164 [08:18:21] I might be repeating the same, bear me :D [08:20:03] tonythomas: :) Feel free to add more projects you think are good fits from https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/view/1482/ [08:20:14] And woah, I just noticed the new board! [08:20:50] Niharika: yeah - it looks great ( and verbose, which might be an issue sometimes ) [08:22:59] Looks good. Some very needed features. [08:30:41] qgil: added the one line about good projects in https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Outreach_programs%2FLife_of_a_successful_project&type=revision&diff=2055441&oldid=2052933 [08:57:05] Interesting phishing (?) email in my inbox from "Matt Townley": "Wikimedia_Foundation_2016_Developers_Conference - Invitation to collaborate". [08:57:07] Tempted to click the link to Google Drive and see what happens. :D [09:26:22] I didn't get that one. Meh, now I'm kinda jealous. [09:45:13] qgil: andre__ 's comment like https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120454#1951894 makes an impact :D ( in red 0 [09:48:08] Yes, as long as the use is not abused. :) [09:49:00] true. and I just created https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127291 to make sure we populate #possible-tech-projects fast [09:49:28] tonythomas, just in case, for the formatting of these warnings, see right above https://secure.phabricator.com/book/phabricator/article/remarkup/#linking-uris [09:50:50] yeah. I did click on 'view raw' on andre__ 's comment. catchy ! [10:11:35] Ah, that was not a phishing email but just from the folks who did the video recording at DevSummit. :) (I opened the link on my testing machine) [11:15:53] Wow https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/maniphest/task/edit/form/1/ [11:17:17] yeah! [11:26:39] qgil: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120454#2038648 looks okey ? [11:26:54] I am gonna paste the same to other tasks ( not marked by Niharika ) as well [11:31:05] Hi all! [11:31:45] hi [11:31:56] busy ? [11:32:45] tonythomas, looks good to me [11:32:54] qgil: okey. more emails on the way ;) [11:32:54] hi tinajohnson__ always busy, apparently. [11:33:08] But there was a lot of Newsletter activity this week! [11:33:18] Including the validation task.\ [11:33:21] yup :) [11:33:30] Let me send a ping to csteipp right now. [11:33:35] 2 tasks to be closed soon [11:33:40] okay great [11:35:02] Is there anything still pending at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110491 ? [11:36:01] csteipp pinged [11:36:26] Upto Glaisher to close it [11:38:08] I'm thinking of moving MZ's comments at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110642#2006505 to the task he created with his feedback, in order to have everything in the same place [11:38:51] okay! good idea [11:39:30] doing now [11:42:51] Done [11:43:07] thanks [11:43:42] If validation is being completed... [11:44:16] I have commented on the task.. probably Glashier would close it soon [11:44:30] Then according to https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110642 \the only essential feature missing is https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110552 (logging)? [11:45:00] yeah [11:45:19] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/project:mediawiki/extensions/Newsletter,n,z -- says we have 3 in queue. reviewing now [11:46:03] just the logging task blocks https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110642#2006505 [11:46:22] I wonder what we need to request this extension to be enabled in test.wiki? [11:46:31] I guess the security review is required? [11:46:34] Need to check [11:47:09] yeah, I don't know about that either [11:47:10] yeah - and a patch something like this https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/154342/ [11:48:37] Ah, it looks like http://deployment.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Main_Page would be a next step. [11:49:13] oh [11:49:33] file a task requesting that [11:50:51] OK, I will do that, and see what happens [11:50:58] Wait, doing now. :) [11:51:14] I can do it if you're busy [11:55:46] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127297 [11:56:25] great [11:56:38] Let's look at the workboard https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/mediawiki-extensions-newsletter/ [11:56:48] okay [11:56:51] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T126731, before or after deployment? [11:57:29] it's a easy task [11:57:44] so before deployment ? [11:58:17] OK, backlog column clean ;) [11:58:34] yay [11:59:20] Mmm... https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117231 looks like obsolete? [11:59:40] I cannot see frequency in http://newsletter-test.wmflabs.org/wiki/Special:CreateNewsletter anymore [12:00:23] Ah, I see. [12:00:35] I will improve the summary and move it to after deployment [12:00:38] yeah [12:01:01] some tasks were declined as we removed the manage page [12:01:11] exactly. one more patch open in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/project:mediawiki/extensions/Newsletter,n,z [12:01:59] Meh, what I will do is to close that task. If saomeone wants Frequency, they can create a new task about that. [12:02:28] hmm [12:03:04] Closed [12:03:34] Let's look at the Feature Complete column... [12:04:04] okay [12:04:30] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119060 [12:04:38] Is caching something really required for deployment? https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119060 [12:04:57] tonythomas: quick question, for tasks in "Recheck in Feb 2016", should we send the same notice notifying about the upcoming rounds? [12:05:15] qgil: it is not a blocker, is it ? [12:05:32] codezee: I think we need to. right qgil ? [12:05:36] Now it is incluear. I will ask in the task. [12:05:38] but I guess caching pretty important [12:05:40] ctrl+c & ctrl+v [12:06:02] I was gifted with batch edits few months back, so would be easy :D [12:07:01] I moved the caching task to Needs discussion. [12:07:06] I suppose a simple notice on all tasks wouldn't harm in the least :D [12:07:10] About violetto's review, what is left? https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124527 [12:07:39] checking [12:07:44] codezee: I can get that done. Thank you for the notice [12:07:45] hi codezee , and yes :)\ [12:07:57] qgil: hi o/ [12:08:10] tonythomas: I'm on it thought, you needn't worry for now :P [12:08:13] *though [12:08:42] codezee: alright! This batch edit thing in phab can get the thing done in one command [12:08:55] rather than going to individual tasks, pasting comments [12:09:11] Ooooh! [12:09:12] qgil: Make main links more prominent ? [12:10:34] qgil: I'll look at violetto's review in detail and close it or file tasks accordingly after this meeting [12:11:26] OK. Meanwhile, I think the rest of the column is clear now [12:11:37] yup [12:11:59] logging and caching are two main things left to do I guess [12:12:51] Yes, then we can wait for the reviews and see whether mopre blockers appear, but finally based on deployment-rel;ated feedback. :) [12:13:06] Ah, I will comment on https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T116271 which is in our court [12:13:30] sure, thanks [12:16:34] I think everything will be simpler if we start with mediawiki.org https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T116271#2038866 [12:16:48] can I join the triagers group? which is required for batch edits... [12:18:18] qgil: yes, I agree [12:19:52] qgil: I got to go now [12:20:52] thanks tinajohnson__ [12:21:18] er... tirns out tonythomas had created a task to add the extension to the Beta Cluster, and he had found the link explaining how this is done [12:21:25] I have merged the tasks at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127297 now [12:21:32] OK, good cleaning today! [12:21:36] Thank you. [12:21:40] qgil: ohhh okay [12:24:00] heh. true https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/mediawiki-extensions-newsletter/ couldnt be better :) [13:15:10] Sigh. Breakage, breakage... Phab. :( [13:16:08] :P [13:18:37] andre__: can you add me to the Triagers group, it'll allow me to send batch notices to projects in relevant columns for the upcoming GSoC/Outreachy rounds [13:20:10] codezee, https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T706 [13:21:09] thanks :) I'll put my request there [13:21:35] codezee, is asking to join Triagers, and that can be done by any member of that group, i.e. tonythomas :) [13:23:09] ah, no [13:23:29] If you want to join, ask a member of Phabricator, Operations, or WMF-NDA. [13:23:36] andre__, ^^^ [13:23:49] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/profile/13/ [13:24:43] codezee, what is your nick in phab? [13:24:53] qgil: Sumit [13:25:03] ok, just checking :) [13:25:45] codezee, https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/feed/6252621601380301483/ [13:26:17] thanks :) [13:29:57] codezee: Oops, sorry, I misread your request (dealing with Phab regressions hence a bit in a hurry) [13:30:01] thanks qgil for adding