[03:03:33] <parent5446>	 Wait, matrix.org has IRC integration? I haven't used it in a while.
[14:11:52] <qgil>	 tonythomas, so... is there a delete newsletter button for admins or not?  :)
[14:23:45] <tonythomas>	 qgil: there is!
[14:23:53] <tonythomas>	 let me take it from the labs instance
[14:24:55] <qgil>	 tonythomas, can you make me admin of the Labs instance, so I don't bother you with (so many) silly questions, please?  :)
[14:25:20] <tonythomas>	 qgil: I thought you were - like I can see http://newsletter-test.wmflabs.org/w/index.php?title=Newsletter:CustomOne&action=delete
[14:25:24] <tonythomas>	 let me just add you right now
[14:26:33] <tonythomas>	 qgil: done
[14:27:50] <qgil>	 tonythomas, how do you arrive to that link? I cannot see anything at http://newsletter-test.wmflabs.org/wiki/Newsletter:CustomOne
[14:28:19] <tonythomas>	 qgil: can you see on the top right More --> Delete
[14:30:35] <tonythomas>	 qgil: did it work ?
[14:30:59] <qgil>	 tonythomas, https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/F4741241
[14:31:38] <qgil>	 ah, wait
[14:31:44] <tonythomas>	 its not in that 'more' drop ?
[14:32:14] <qgil>	 I don't see any "More"?
[14:32:25] <qgil>	 oooohhhhh
[14:32:29] <qgil>	 there
[14:32:52] <tonythomas>	 yeah :D
[14:33:04] <tonythomas>	 I thought that was the usual wiki way, and removed the Delete button
[14:33:05] <qgil>	 well, but...
[14:33:07] <tonythomas>	 :D
[14:33:24] <qgil>	 not really, http://newsletter-test.wmflabs.org/wiki/Special:Newsletter/1/subscribe shows a "delete" option
[14:33:29] <qgil>	 and this is where I would expect it
[14:33:44] <tonythomas>	 argh.
[14:33:49] <tonythomas>	 I forgot to remove it completetly
[14:34:00] <tonythomas>	 alright, if there is consensus to have the button back, we can get that thing done
[14:34:02] <qgil>	 Having this under "More" might give a signal that that page will be deleted, but not necessarily the information in the database related to it (subscribers, issues sent, etc)
[14:34:05] <tonythomas>	 maybe as a probable GCI task
[14:34:57] <qgil>	 tonythomas, also let me note that both "delete" links point to different places
[14:35:18] <tonythomas>	 yeah. the one in subscribe, shouldnt be there according to my plan
[14:35:20] <qgil>	 Special:Newsletter/1/delete (which looks good)
[14:35:23] <tonythomas>	 I forgot to remove it :-(
[14:35:47] <tonythomas>	 alright. I think this can be a good GCI task, as its kind of copy paste and etc
[14:35:56] <qgil>	 vs index.php?title=Newsletter:CustomOne&action=delete which gives the impression that the page is removed, the metadata is not
[14:36:24] <tonythomas>	 I just thought we wanted to have everything the pure wiki way
[14:36:36] <tonythomas>	 and btw, whne the page is removed, the newsletter actually gets deleted btw
[14:36:53] <qgil>	 ok
[14:37:26] <qgil>	 So yes, I think it makes more sense to have it next to "manage"
[14:37:39] <qgil>	 ... and I think I have been a useful UX test  :)
[14:37:57] <qgil>	 Thank you for clarifying
[14:42:04] <tonythomas>	 true :D
[14:42:16] <tonythomas>	 possible GCI task, then
[14:42:57] <qgil>	 tonythomas, ok, it works   https://espiral.org/w/index.php?title=Especial%3ARegistre&type=newsletter&user=&page=&year=&month=-1&tagfilter=&subtype=newsletter-removed  :)
[14:43:10] <qgil>	 (old version)
[14:43:14] <tonythomas>	 great. there is some problem with the undeletion though
[14:43:16] <tonythomas>	 we have a bug for that
[14:43:20] <tonythomas>	 its not implemented yet
[14:43:29] <tonythomas>	 (well, not merged yet)
[14:43:31] <qgil>	 Well, in this case it won't be undeleted  :)
[14:45:42] <tonythomas>	 yeah. :D sicne undeletion was working out with the usual wiki style, do you think we can keep the deletion too in the normal wikie styly ?
[14:46:09] <tonythomas>	 we can like remove 4 or 5 blocks of code, and a special page subpage :D
[19:08:58] <quimgil[m]>	 tonythomas: OK, deal. I agree that simple is better, and lost admins like myself can learn quickly the truck if it's not evident in the first place.
[20:29:44] <tonythomas>	 quimgil[m]: heh. sorry for that one, but yeah :D