[21:00:07] <popcrate>	 Hello World !  is anybody out there?
[21:04:00] * Sagan is
[21:32:55] <popcrate>	 }
[21:33:40] <popcrate>	 ok i'm going to try to say hello in the strange way I know how:
[21:33:47] <popcrate>	 while (TRUE) {
[21:33:54] <popcrate>	     i.doLove() = "Wikipedia";
[21:34:00] <popcrate>	 	i.know("who to talk to") = FALSE;
[21:34:09] <popcrate>	 	if(i.canCode() == TRUE){
[21:34:17] <popcrate>	 		try {
[21:34:28] <popcrate>	 		    i.know("who to talk to") = FALSE;
[21:34:38] <popcrate>	 		} catch (NotHelpingException e) {
[21:34:43] <popcrate>	 			System.out.println("Why aren't you coding more?")
[21:34:48] <popcrate>	 		} finally {
[21:34:52] <popcrate>	 			joinChat("wikimedia-devrel");
[21:34:56] <popcrate>	 			System.out.println("Hello World!");
[21:35:19] <popcrate>	 		} continue; } else { return i.goEdit(Article);
[21:35:20] <popcrate>	 }
[21:35:55] <popcrate>	 well that didn't look as beautiful as I intended it to... but hopefully at least 1 person gets to see it xD
[21:43:44] <popcrate>	 if(i.canHaz(response)){ (i.willBe(happy)); } else {i.canHaz("cookie?");}
[21:50:24] <andre__>	 hi popcrate!
[21:51:01] <andre__>	 With what can we help when it comes to diving into Wikimedia code? :)
[21:55:57] <popcrate>	 =D i.canHax(response) = True!
[21:56:33] <popcrate>	 well i Know about phab's existence , haven't made an account yet
[21:57:55] <popcrate>	 Is that where pretty much everything is?
[21:59:21] <popcrate>	 I have a disconnect between (not helping, but wanting to) -> (being actively involved with current events)
[22:07:41] <andre__>	 Depends on what people want to do....... :)
[22:18:02] <popcrate>	 unified login and OAuth to the rescue!
[22:19:29] <andre__>	 popcrate: What are you looking for?
[22:19:57] <andre__>	 popcrate: Phabricator is where we track tasks. See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator for more info
[22:20:03] <popcrate>	 well, I've been meaning to start helping with actual code on media wiki for awhile
[22:20:07] <popcrate>	 oh i just made an account there ;)
[22:20:11] <andre__>	 popcrate, have you checked https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_become_a_MediaWiki_hacker already?
[22:20:16] <popcrate>	 yeah =)
[22:20:20] <andre__>	 ah great
[22:20:54] <tgr>	 we have wishlists!
[22:21:00] <tgr>	 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/2016_Community_Wishlist_Survey
[22:21:10] <popcrate>	 =D
[22:21:11] <tgr>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_Wishlist/2017/results
[22:21:26] <tgr>	 a good place to start if you are looking for things to do
[22:21:38] <andre__>	 Or easy bugs to start with, e.g. in the field of Wikidata:  https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Annoying_little_bugs#Wikidata
[22:21:41] <andre__>	 So many options. :)
[22:22:14] <popcrate>	 I was kind of curious about google summer code, too.  I just found out about it last week (i'm techincally still a student)
[22:22:20] <popcrate>	 although I'm planning to help code regardless
[22:22:46] <popcrate>	 thanks for the links btw :)
[22:22:54] <andre__>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Outreach_programs and https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code_2017 that would be :)
[22:23:53] <tgr>	 GSoC application deadlines are in two weeks, which is less time than it sounds, so if you are interested in that, you should try to find a task quickly
[22:23:55] <popcrate>	 yeah that's how I found this chat room lol
[22:24:23] <popcrate>	 well a few weeks ago i posted an idea, although I'm sure there's more pressing tasks already
[22:24:43] <popcrate>	 if nothing else, it will give you an idea of the kind of interests I have on wikipedia
[22:25:40] <popcrate>	 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(idea_lab)#Accessible_Citations_.28Experiment_with_.PDF.23page_links.29
[22:26:57] <popcrate>	 It's not really crucial, but somebody linked me to an old phabricator task, and then I started to get more interested in actually contributing with code
[22:28:09] <popcrate>	 So that's just a bit of popcrate -lore ... =)
[22:30:17] <popcrate>	 Thank you, andre_ and tgr  =)
[22:32:02] <tgr>	 popcrate: if you are looking for an easy bug to fix as a start, IMO it's really annoying that you don't end up on a specific PDF page when clicking through from the image page
[22:32:32] <popcrate>	 RIGHT
[22:33:22] <andre__>	 yw
[22:33:27] <popcrate>	 ok wait here's the archived link to what I was semi-working on a few weeks ago
[22:33:29] <popcrate>	 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(idea_lab)/Archive_22#Update
[22:33:57] <popcrate>	 it was mostly just hacking existing citation tags
[22:36:09] <acagastya>	 That seems more like modifying the existing templates which Wikipedia relies on, popcrate.
[22:42:35] <popcrate>	 I don't think that would be wise.  Accessibility of references is the goal =)
[22:43:53] <acagastya>	 I really don't agree on that. References are accessible. Without any hassle, actually.
[22:45:21] <popcrate>	 Oh, I was just talking about adding #pagenumber  to the end of URL links for pdf files
[22:46:48] <acagastya>	 Yes, I saw that in the link you have provided.
[22:48:01] <acagastya>	 I can't recall if there is an option to do that, I generally don't use PDF to cite, but this it can be achieved by adding one parameter.
[22:51:06] <popcrate>	 mozilla's pdf.js supports #page=000   as an anchor link, I believe wiki commons is the same
[22:52:41] <tgr>	 browsers generally support #page=NN on direct PDF links
[22:53:00] <acagastya>	 Yes, they do.
[22:53:01] <tgr>	 Commons supports ?page=NN on description pages
[22:54:06] <tgr>	 popcrate: if you want to fix the description page issue I mentioned, all that takes is a few lines in ImagePage::openShowImage
[22:54:20] <tgr>	 a good way to start your MediaWiki hacker career :)
[22:54:27] <popcrate>	 ^ yes I'm looking into that atm actually =)
[22:54:37] <popcrate>	 that was a great first task reccomendation haha