[16:42:46] andre__: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Code_Review/Office_Hours needs updating too, though I'm not sure what. Just exchange the channel name? Or are code review hours dead and that page can be marked historical? Seems the latter since you removed the whole paragraph at "Getting reviews" and CR hours don't actually happen. [17:03:17] eddiegp, thanks! Done [17:03:20] also in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T173770 [17:10:29] Hmm, I thought "drop the irc channel and move cr hours in some other channel" and "decide what to do with cr hours" were two different problems, so I don't think T177974 superseded T173770. I agree to close T173770 as well though (as I strongly doubt the future of CR hours, so calling them dead makes sense), so whatever. [17:10:30] T173770: Code Review Hours advertised but not taking place? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T173770 [17:10:30] T177974: Drop #wikimedia-codereview channel - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T177974 [17:13:56] Ah, huh. Only read the task summaries. Feel free to reopen and correct me :) [17:33:40] andre__: hey, do you have a handy guide to closing an irc channel (I saw you mention it re -codereview). I want to do the same for -devtools (optional redirect to -releng). [17:34:26] oh, and look at that, it was the topic of discussion in here too [17:35:36] (I don't see a list of steps/commands in the task) [17:38:08] greg-g, unfortunately I have no idea either, sorry [17:38:14] hah [17:38:18] who did it? [17:38:26] * andre__ has "close an irc channel" still on his "100 things to do once in your life" list [17:40:02] Mar 23 16:34:09 * ChanServ gives channel operator status to Sagan [17:40:02] Mar 23 16:34:17 * Sagan sets mode +f #wikimedia-codereview #wikimedia-tech [17:40:02] Mar 23 16:34:17 * Sagan sets mode +i #wikimedia-codereview [17:40:02] Mar 23 16:35:45 * ChanServ sets channel limit to 1 [17:40:21] Mar 23 16:35:46 * You have been kicked from #wikimedia-codereview by ChanServ (CLEAR USERS used by Sagan (Luke081515): Channel was redirected to #wikimedia-tech (T177974)) [17:40:21] T177974: Drop #wikimedia-codereview channel - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T177974 [17:40:24] greg-g, ^ [17:40:31] that's what my IRC client offers. [17:40:46] and all I know. [17:42:22] ack, thanks [18:38:06] andre__: since I think this got out of your radar... can you take a look at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103861 (specifically my last comment?) [18:38:41] greg-g: otherwise I can handle it for you, if you prefer :) [18:39:53] greg-g: or you do: a) /msg ChanServ op #targetchan b) /mode +fi #closingchan c) /msg ChanServ CLEAR #closingchan users [18:43:15] Sagan: should there be a "redirect to #targetchan" in there somewhere? [18:43:45] greg-g: ah right, replace #closingchan in b) with targetchan [18:43:54] you do a /mode in the closingchan [18:44:08] and do a +f #targetchan (redirect) and a +i (invite only) [18:44:19] so in the closing chan /mode +fi #targetchan [18:45:29] got it [18:45:43] * greg-g puts these in notes somewhere [18:46:44] thanks Sagan :) [18:46:59] greg-g: you're welcome :) [18:48:17] greg-g: the clear users command will not work for you there btw, you don't have enough flags. so 20after4 would need to do it, or give you flags [18:50:32] ack [18:58:55] s[_], yeah I missed that, sorry. I replied in the task [19:06:42] thanks, saw it [19:06:47] will take care of it tomorrow [19:06:59] meouw. [19:42:05] andre__: what are your thoughts on moving https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_access to [[Developer account]]? [19:47:09] bd808: positive. Because currently it sounds like you need special access rights to 'develop' which is not the case (only to contribute back you might need). [19:47:38] cool. I may make some bold edits there soon then :) [19:48:21] Just wondering whether to change the text on a bunch of pages too then, https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&limit=500&offset=0&search="Developer+access" [19:48:31] The best description of a developer account I know of today is https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Getting_Started#Step_1:_Create_a_Wikimedia_developer_account [19:49:18] Indeed. I wonder to which extent that should also be on the mw.org page [19:49:36] andre__: yeah... that's a lot of edits, but maybe useful. Is there a pywikibot script that knows how to fix things like that? [19:50:03] My thought on the bold edits to mw.o was to copy most/all of that info there and then link from wikitech [19:50:45] this wanders a bit into the question of "what is the purpose of mediawiki.org?" [19:51:13] it is about mediawiki the software project or about all FLOSS software projects under the Wikimedia umbrella? [19:51:31] our audience segmentation is ... sketchy [19:52:08] this is not a topic for a Friday afternoon ;) [20:07:35] bd808: This. Audience segmentation is also my problem when it comes to the frontpage (T653): Sysadmins? Developers? Users (help/docs)? MediaWiki the software vs Wikimedia software projects? [20:07:36] T653: Refresh the mediawiki.org homepage - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T653 [20:07:55] but yeah, I should get going here too. Already late for "10 years of my local chapter" party [20:08:00] cheers [20:08:16] fun! Lets talk about audiences some other time :) [20:08:31] hell yeah :)