[15:26:26] Google Code-in to start soon, yay! [15:26:43] everyone ready! [15:27:53] Heh, I hope so. :P (Though I need to ping a bunch of mentors who don't have any tasks yet in the system.) [15:29:42] it would be nice if we had a bot pingin gpeople on irc when the tasks were submitted [15:30:29] maybe I will suggest it on the mentors list [15:35:55] Platonides: I think there are webhooks for that - https://developers.google.com/open-source/gci/api [15:35:57] (IIRC jayvdb had a similar idea last year) [15:36:45] oh, cool [15:36:46] on the other hand, I usually check my dashboard once a day instead if I nede to review something, as GCI mail notifications don't scale anymore for me (ironically, Phab notifications work for me but they have proper threading mail headers while GCI has not) [15:36:51] did he implement anything? [15:36:58] lol [15:37:42] I don't think so [15:38:08] Coding-wise I also asked Google 10 days ago for some concept to check if a mentor has "enough" tasks published but they only pointed me to the API [15:38:38] so I came up with a dirty 5-liner in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T200777 but there's probably way better ways to do this, in case you're super-bored and like such problems. :D [15:41:06] probably each org will have different concepts of enough [15:43:15] pointing to an API kinda allows them to let everyone build by themselves what they prefer [15:43:34] which isn't completely wrong for an audience of gsoc/gci orgs [16:13:34] true that [16:14:10] in a perfect world, the list of all mentors on the website would show me some percentage bar thingy, but in practice they don't have capacity for new feature requests... [17:30:39] andre__, regarding phab notifications, I guess you don't use gmail webinterface? It doesn't allow you to access headers, does it? [17:41:31] Urbanecm, nah I don't. Gmail web interface is not very useful [17:42:01] headers... no. Also see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Help/Managing_mail [17:47:47] andre__, well, it is for most of functions. Basic users don't know even what header is [17:47:51] btw thank you [17:47:56] didn't know we have this nice page [17:49:58] I created it having acceptance of Phab in mind. I can imagine that many people ignore Phab (and even more so Gerrit) notifications. :-/ [18:39:41] andre__: Hello Can we have a new IRC channel for Wikimedia-GCI-18 ? So the contestants might feel free to be active and also It might be helpful from both sides[students, mentors, admins], Avoids spamming in main channels, They can also ask doubts in any other wiki channels but still I guess this might help us :-) [18:40:56] Gopa: That's an open question, also already discussed last year in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Google_Code-in/Lessons_learned#2017 [18:41:27] There are pro's and con's to that, and I myself don't know what's best. [18:43:15] andre__: Ooo okay :) [18:46:26] Personally I think a separate "group" for GCI students makes sense. But I don't see any sense having that **on IRC**. [18:47:35] I think we should use -dev with them for this kind of task. Yes, it is highly used chan. Yes, it is used by many people. But it has bigger chance students will see something else than "Hi, I'm GCI student" [18:47:43] andre__: So where do you suggest to make the group? [18:48:11] There is a group on Telegram already, for example [18:48:27] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Google_Code-in/2017#Unofficial_smalltalk_groups [18:49:07] I don't suggest where to make a group though. Too many system nowadays. https://xkcd.com/1810/ [18:49:55] I personally think we should have them see some real communication (so they know that at least in Wikimedia, IRC's great communication channel) [18:50:10] it isn't primarily about joining a chan [18:50:21] it's more about seeing real communication [18:50:27] at least from my sdie [18:50:28] *side [18:50:41] +1 [18:54:57] (Also, for those who mentor the "get on IRC" GCI task: the command "/CTCP nicknameOfTheStudent VERSION" usually shows you their irc client) [18:55:16] andre__, čteš co si myslím :). I was just going to ask that :D [18:57:18] It also seems I can see when somebody (Gopa) looked on client I use [18:57:26] Urbanecm: Heh, není zač :) [18:57:47] Looks like Gopa tests CTCP on me :) (I got a "Received a CTCP version from Gopa" here.) [18:58:05] Same for me :) [18:58:25] Oo yes [18:58:42] sorry if i'm wrong :- [18:58:43] Gopa: Spying on us, eh, eh? :D [18:58:49] (just kidding) [18:58:59] hah understood [18:59:08] I'm just wondering if such command doesn't reveal much private info, but that's for another discussion :) [18:59:48] btw thank you andre__ for wmcz- projects :) [19:00:01] yw [19:00:41] Google asks students to not use their real name etc on the internet. I don't think we can fix all IRC clients out there, though. It's rather up to users which data they enter. [19:01:49] I meant if just being able to display irc client including version, os including kernel version isn't more than necessary, which is protocol-side, not google-side or student-side [19:02:58] sounds like there is some other original name behind Andre Klapper. [19:04:17] andre__: haha excited to see you in upcoming wiki conferences, meetups or hackathons. [19:06:02] hehe :) [19:06:28] WMF Hackathon 2019 sounds like good place to meet each other ;) [19:09:05] Urbanecm: yea so how can I approach for that hackathon? [19:09:55] Watch https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Hackathon_2019 ;) [19:10:26] Urbanecm: some IRC clients also allow editing/faking the CTCP VERSION reply [19:10:38] cheating is always possible... [19:10:45] Feel free to try again a CTCP VERSION on me. :P [19:14:40] * Gopa It's High time to me to go to sleep :) [19:15:00] * Gopa away [19:15:08] Gopa: Thanks, good sleep, and see you tomorrow! [19:16:45] :) [20:42:25] looking at the cloak is useful, too [20:42:52] I caught several times last year students that came into the channel with a webchat cloak :) [20:43:33] we could easily use a bot for the Get into irc task, though [20:48:26] I hadn't noticed that the channel is +r [20:48:30] I think we should lift that [20:56:11] Uh, ah. Automation. Hmm.... :D [20:57:34] but please, let's remove +r there [21:00:51] (done by Krenair) [21:02:30] sorry, I only noticed when it was brought up in -ops-internal [21:45:58] I wanted to add " (note that registration will not be complete until you send to nickserv the verification code you will receive by email)" to the irc task [21:46:18] but it's almost to the limit [21:46:28] 1497/1500 characters :P