[12:27:24] d3r1ck, just a notification, what to say here? https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/task-instances/5169509536104448/ As Zoran abandoned the task instance, it was released for others to claim, but both patches are merged. Any advice? [12:28:00] I think we should either unassign them administratively or ask them to abandon and politely explain what happened. Then we should unpublish the task so this won't happen again. [12:29:10] Urbanecm: Hmmm..... [12:29:44] So I think we can write a nice friendly message asking the student to abandon the task. [12:30:02] Will you do it or should I? [12:30:15] Urbanecm: Please you can go ahead and handle it. Thanks a lot! [12:30:26] If you want us to draft, something, we can do it here :) [12:30:45] d3r1ck, Okay, will do. Will the task be unpublished after abandoning? [12:30:55] No, it will be available [12:31:00] We will have to delete the task I think [12:31:06] Since it's no longer needed [12:31:32] Urbanecm: ^^ [12:31:42] I meant unpublished manually by an org admin after the student will abandon it [12:31:48] I didn't mean automatic unpublishing [12:31:52] But yeah, deletion works fine as well [12:32:01] Do you know why Zoran abandoned it? [12:32:07] d3r1ck, ^^^ [12:32:43] Yes, we'll unpublish it after the student abandons it and then delete it after that. [12:32:55] Yes, Zoran did a mistake and went against the rules [12:33:13] He submitted the patches to those extensions before claiming the task on the GCI website. [12:34:12] Urbanecm: See here, https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/task-instances/6733972714291200/ [12:34:17] thx [12:34:58] I was worried too about it until he explained. But just wondering if this is still the case. Maybe andre__ has some lights on this? [13:25:58] Let's check the GCI rules. [13:26:23] hey all, is there any outreachy coordinator around? [13:27:41] Urbanecm, d3r1ck : Thanks for the heads-up, let me try to handle those [13:28:09] andre__, I already wrote a message to the student, after reviewing it with d3r1ck [13:28:46] Yeah, we left the student a note that claimed the task that has already been solved! [13:29:05] And we hope that once the student abandons it, we'll unpublish/delete it from the system [13:29:14] srish_aka_tux, ^ [13:29:33] vkmc: Not sure Srishti is around but you can drop your question I think [13:29:34] vkmc: don't ask to ask, just ask, please. [13:29:50] There are timezones on this planet, and often the timezones don't scale. :D [13:29:53] I'm from LinuxChix Argentina chapter, we spread the word about the Outreachy internships and there are some folks that started working on contributions to some projects [13:29:54] I know :( [13:29:57] thanks for getting back [13:30:18] so the deadline is today, and the applicant is having issues in submitting her application because her mentor is unreachable [13:30:32] Elena is the mentor [13:31:24] not sure what is her IRC handle [13:31:36] I'm asking Sol to join us here so maybe someone else can assist [13:32:56] I don't see etonkovidova online [13:33:06] SolK, hey o/ [13:33:13] just chatting with folks here, maybe we can get some help from them [13:33:26] Hi, there [13:33:38] your mentor is etonkovidova and she doesn't seem to be online... and it may be too late for srish_aka_tux [13:33:45] (coordinator for Outreachy) [13:33:53] can you share what blockers are you hitting with your application? [13:35:29] Urbanecm, d3r1ck: Garrrrr. I can neither delete the task as it has been claimed, nor can I unpublish it. [13:35:52] andre__: That's why we've dropped the message so the student can abandon it :( [13:36:02] Once it's abandoned, we can get rid of it once and for all [13:36:23] d3r1ck: Nope. I unassigned the student already. Admins can do that. [13:36:38] * d3r1ck andre__ [13:36:46] vkmc: What blocks the applicant from submitting the application? What is needed from the mentor? (If that is something you're comfortable to share here in public.) [13:36:58] SolK, ^ [13:37:42] Sorry for the "/me", wanted to do a query instead :( [13:38:01] well look, when I finished the task(the first microtask) I needed help on my proposal, the timeline [13:38:27] SolK, the timeline for the node.js project? [13:39:03] andre__, is that something you can help us with? IIRC we need to break down the steps for completion of the proposed internship task [13:40:13] but even when I finished it, that she knew because i shared with her my documentation on a Gdocs, i didn't get a feedback [13:40:28] SolK, can you share the doc? [13:40:31] maybe we can provide you feedback [13:40:35] d3r1ck, Urbanecm: I'll report a bug to Google [13:40:47] * vkmc from an former Outreachy coordinator point view [13:40:52] andre__: Great! :) [13:41:13] andre__, what bug? [13:41:25] I had an internet connection problem, might miss some messages [13:41:40] 14:35:29 andre__ | Urbanecm, d3r1ck: Garrrrr. I can neither delete the task as it has been claimed, nor can I unpublish it. [13:41:59] thank you d3r1ck [13:42:21] I'm not really clear here and thanks vkmc for bringing the conversation to -devrel. [13:42:38] so,I didn't know if that was ok or not. Sure,Do I link it here? [13:42:50] SolK, yes please [13:43:02] unless there is sensitive data [13:43:10] (email, phone) [13:43:18] in that case you can share it privately to me and andre__ [13:43:31] https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JzY5AOPqBdm7DWnlA6vlz7mDspPbhXYWe86_qfW2Idw/edit?usp=sharing [13:43:39] joining.. [13:44:20] ok, so for what I see... you are having issues making your first contribution? [13:44:22] SolK, ^ [13:44:57] vkmc, i were [13:45:10] SolK, so... that is solved then [13:45:15] I'm not really clear here and thanks vkmc for bringing the conversation to -devrel. [13:45:21] Is SolK applying for Outreachy in Wikimedia? And has issues with proposal due to deadline or something? [13:45:27] d3r1ck, exactly [13:45:36] Just so we get the basics and know if we can help please :) [13:45:41] sorry I went offline :( [13:45:47] d3r1ck, SolK is applying to the QA: Automation Testing - port Echo Notification tests to Node.js project [13:46:02] d3r1ck, s/for/to/g [13:46:08] SolK: Link to the phab ticket please [13:46:11] d3r1ck, and seems her mentor is unreachable... so trying to help her [13:46:23] Ohh crap :( [13:47:00] SolK, so, if the first contribution is done, then we need to work on the application, which I understand is being hard since you don't have a clear timeline for the internship task, something that your mentor needs to define with you [13:47:00] vkmc: Is today the deadline, at what time, I maybe able to offer some help [13:47:03] My mentor emailed me three times, and then i was solving the task by myself with a little help of other people, but in the end i didn't know how to continue [13:47:25] SolK, first contribution is done or not? [13:47:29] SolK: So what is the issue, microtask or proposal please? [13:48:54] no, i think only proposal, because, first task was only setting up vagrant and run the tests https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T204771 [13:51:37] SolK: I'm asking the link to the proposal task [13:52:05] What do you need help on? If deadline is at hand, we better see how to fix any issue and then you get the proposal in the system [13:52:10] Then other things can happen later [14:08:58] d3r1ck the thing is I couldn't get the environment at first run because the docs are pretty outdated, therefore i couldn't make my first contribution [14:09:39] is it ok to open a docs bug and fix that with the discoverings i made? [14:10:53] can you help me to do that? if the docs bug is not advisable, is there any task you can propose for me to make as a first contribution? [14:14:36] SolK: So which OS are you using? Is it MediaWiki-Vagrant you're talking about? [14:15:03] d3r1ck, all details of her work is here https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JzY5AOPqBdm7DWnlA6vlz7mDspPbhXYWe86_qfW2Idw/edit# [14:15:30] Okay, will look at it in a bit! [14:15:46] (This might also be worth to bring up in Zulip, I'd say.) [14:15:53] d3r1ck, thanks :) [14:16:14] xubuntu, and yes, thanks [16:43:53] andre__, ad https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/tasks/5208626655395840/, I have figured out you can set instance count to 0 [16:44:27] not sure if it is visible to students now, through [16:51:55] Urbanecm, uh, nice, please try that! [16:52:01] I did that [16:52:05] thanks [16:52:07] but I don't know how can I check if it is available [16:52:23] If I remove dashboard/ from the URL, it is still accessible [16:52:31] but I can't check if students still see "claim" button [16:52:45] andre__, ^^ [18:45:41] Urbanecm: ask one of the students that come to #wikimedia-dev ? [18:46:23] Hmm, that's good idea, thanks Platonides [18:46:57] :) [19:23:16] Urbanecm: on https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/task-instances/5728255253413888/ the More work needed appeared twice [19:23:21] platform bug? [19:23:30] Platonides, I think so. [19:23:41] Sometime, "task approved" appears twice as well [19:24:18] you only clicked the button once? [19:24:23] I'm sure I did [19:24:55] anyway, it looks like a cosmetic issue rather than real issue to me [19:25:05] * d3r1ck nods [19:25:38] And sometimes, the website freezes :( [19:25:46] For the records, gci-support@g.c for software bugs with good steps to repro [19:25:51] And this is really annoying :( [19:26:40] d3r1ck, I didn't experience website freeze [19:26:53] (or at least don't remember them) [19:26:56] can you describe a little? [19:27:01] I have many times [19:27:33] So the website freezes, can't click on anything (link etc), can't close the browser tab etc :( [19:28:32] hmm [19:28:33] Most browser allow reloading a tab. :P [19:28:38] wfm [19:31:23] * d3r1ck thanks andre__ :) [22:28:23] Urbanecm: you have a reply here https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/task-instances/4515856986931200/ [22:28:56] Thank you Platonides, I'm reviewing it [22:38:19] and I'm seeing https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/task-instances/4594580851785728/ is pending [22:38:28] but the gerrit change is ok: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/integration/config/+/470565/ [22:38:38] it's just that apparently none of us have +2 there :( [22:39:30] I'm wondering if we should approve the GCI task even though the change is not merged :\ [22:39:59] I take approving of GCI task as "I take over responsibility over this patch" [22:40:09] I don't think we really must wait on merge [22:40:18] btw, legoktm has +2 on integration/config IIRC [22:40:23] Platonides, ^^^ [22:46:29] and what is taking over esponsability with so trivial patches? [22:47:15] these will be approved, it's just a matter of time someone with +2 look at them [22:47:34] (note: there's also https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/integration/config/+/470541/ ) [22:48:43] OTOH, approving the GCI task would allow them to continue working there [22:49:02] OTOH, it would be nice if they could view the result of what they did [22:49:25] they would, as soon as somebody with +2 looks on it [22:49:28] maybe we should simply request +2 there [22:49:35] It's not about +2ing [22:49:40] you also need to deploy the job [22:49:48] s/job/whitelist [22:49:59] oh, and this whitelist thing is completely crazy [22:50:09] That's topic for another discussion [22:50:09] I had forgotten about it [22:50:14] indeed xD [22:50:35] good night, Urbane [22:50:45] gn