[00:00:00] Platonides: I will do it right now :) so that we don't forget [00:00:26] what do mean by "setup security"? [00:00:40] !log deployment-prep configured new firewall rule irc [00:00:41] Logged the message, Master [00:00:59] group you pick when creatin instance [00:01:32] like web or sql [00:01:39] https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:NovaSecurityGroup [00:01:45] Platonides: ^ [00:20:23] hey guys, i might break puppet in labs again... [00:27:54] :< [00:29:30] but it will make it better when it works [00:29:46] no more waiting for the rsync [00:34:02] yay it didn't break! [00:59:14] petan: ping [00:59:37] I screwed up settings while trying to preserve it [00:59:44] missed the symlink [00:59:45] :P [01:00:04] so "cp -pr" copied the symlink to /usr/local/apache [01:00:20] *this* is why symlinks should be relative [01:31:33] PROBLEM Free ram is now: WARNING on bots-2 bots-2 output: Warning: 19% free memory [01:40:05] Heh, this may be what we were waiting for https://secure.phabricator.com/D1488 [01:40:30] "Land an accepted change (currently sitting in local feature branch branch) onto master and push it to the remote. Then, delete the feature branch." [01:40:47] Not automatic, but more automated [01:44:03] Ah, cool [01:44:12] That's kind of like git review -f/--finish I guess [01:44:40] Which is "push a proposed change to Gerrit, tag it with the local feature branch name, delete the local feature branch and switch back to master" [02:41:33] RECOVERY Free ram is now: OK on bots-2 bots-2 output: OK: 21% free memory [03:00:23] PROBLEM Free ram is now: WARNING on bots-2 bots-2 output: Warning: 19% free memory [03:12:50] :D [03:12:52] D3 [03:12:53] D3 API changes - http://phabricator.wmflabs.org/D3 [04:00:56] yay [04:01:11] https://github.com/johnduhart/mwphb/commit/9fc7d38e39d39e5921182ff1832edf467a39d1e6 [05:44:26] johnduhart: is that derived from demon's git repo on gerrit? [05:44:34] jeremyb: Yes [05:45:32] johnduhart created revision D4. [05:45:40] johnduhart: btw, did you see my comment on /r/2012 ? for some reason gerrit is not friendly to line breaks [05:51:07] domas commented on revision D4. [05:51:31] domas isn't even here... [05:51:42] jeremyb: http://phabricator.wmflabs.org/D4 [05:52:55] hrmmm... it's commented out [06:11:11] johnduhart: made some tweaks: https://github.com/bymerej/mwphb/branches [06:11:22] johnduhart: no comment on 2012? [06:12:03] jeremyb: Thanks. [06:12:31] jeremyb: Still sand by what it said, the current link is fine [06:12:42] are you on a beach? ;) [06:12:46] ok... [06:13:08] the "wtf" made me think you had no clue what my reasoning was [06:15:25] jeremyb: The link is to "bug the devs", if you need to "bug the devs" the subersion component is not what you want [06:15:45] jeremyb: Mind doing a pull request for option 2? [06:16:28] johnduhart: done [06:16:47] johnduhart: did you read my comment? i can put the line breaks back in if it's hard to read as is [06:17:04] I read it [06:17:48] quoting myself: i was mainly thinking about the text. it says "bug the devs" and it's using the viewvc variable for the viewvc instance admin. so i therefore expect it to be an easy way to request changes to viewvc [06:20:19] anyway, i just thought we should make sure we understood eachother (i'm not convinced we do) even if we don't agree on what should be done (or not done) [06:20:32] I understand. [06:56:59] johnduhart: you have another request [06:57:08] pull req that is [08:33:02] hey [08:48:52] @regsearch -+ [08:48:52] Results (found 13): bot, wm-bot, putty, monitor, alert, unicorn, help, instance-json, leslie's-reset, new-labsuser, new-ldapuser, projects, socks-proxy, [08:48:55] :o [08:50:12] methecooldude: why you updated kernel on bots [08:50:14] kernels [08:50:33] it doesn't make sense without rebooting instance [08:52:10] !nagios-auth [08:52:13] @search nagios [08:52:14] Results (found 3): nagios, monitor, alert, [08:52:19] !alert [08:52:19] http://nagios.wmflabs.org/cgi-bin/nagios3/history.cgi?host=$1 [08:57:48] ACKNOWLEDGEMENT Disk Space is now: WARNING on deployment-transcoding deployment-transcoding output: DISK WARNING - free space: / 47 MB (3% inode=54%): [08:58:19] who is working on that [08:58:23] transcoding [09:17:31] !instance [09:17:31] https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Instances [09:17:35] !instance del [09:17:35] Successfully removed instance [09:17:47] !instance is https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Instances [09:17:47] Key was added! [09:17:50] !instances [09:17:50] https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Instances [09:18:05] !address is https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Addresses [09:18:05] Key was added! [09:21:19] !ssh is https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:SSH [09:21:19] Key was added! [09:22:13] !documentation is https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Contents [09:22:13] Key was added! [09:22:28] !help [09:22:28] want docs? ask for "!wm-bot". all keywords? try "@regsearch .*" [09:22:31] !help del [09:22:31] Successfully removed help [09:23:00] !help !documentation for labs !wm-bot for bot [09:23:00] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WM-Bot [09:23:06] !help is !documentation for labs !wm-bot for bot [09:23:06] Key was added! [09:23:13] !help [09:23:13] !documentation for labs !wm-bot for bot [09:26:37] mutante_: around? [09:50:58] !security [09:50:58] https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Security_Groups [09:52:21] @search Help [09:52:21] Results (found 5): docs, instance, address, ssh, documentation, [09:52:23] RECOVERY Disk Space is now: OK on deployment-transcoding deployment-transcoding output: DISK OK [09:53:08] who is j [09:53:16] whoever it is, please log the changes :) [10:14:27] petan|wk: thats me [10:14:51] so far just called apt-get clean [10:14:59] to remove dep packages [10:15:40] if the tiny instance is running out of space on its own we might have to use the slightly larger once [10:25:25] hey, I mounted a nfs there [10:25:31] j^: you have a plenty of space now [10:25:57] j^: let me know if we needed more I will extend it [10:59:55] Anyone here that has the technical ability to create projects? [11:48:36] Hydriz: mutante_ can [11:48:39] and ssmollett [11:49:27] it wasn't that long ago when it was allowed to all people but Ryan disabled it [11:55:43] How does one get a labs account? [11:55:52] !account [11:55:57] @search account [11:55:57] Results (found 2): credentials, account-questions, [11:56:05] !account-questions [11:56:05] I need the following info from you: 1. Your preferred wiki user name. This will also be your git username, so if you'd prefer this to be your real name, then provide your real name. 2. Your SVN account name, or your preferred shell account name, if you do not have SVN access. 3. Your preferred email address. [11:56:21] you need to ask, mutante_ or ssmollett and provide them this [11:57:40] !account is in order to get an access to labs, please type !account-questions ask Ryan, or someone who is in charge of creating account on labs [11:57:40] Key was added! [11:58:06] !account. [11:58:07] !account del [11:58:07] Successfully removed account [11:58:15] !account is in order to get an access to labs, please type !account-questions and ask Ryan, or someone who is in charge of creating account on labs [11:58:15] Key was added! [11:58:37] vvv: ^ [11:58:52] Got it [11:58:57] ok [11:59:23] btw I think you already have access there [11:59:46] ah [11:59:47] nope [12:13:01] petan|wk: lost internet earlier, regarding disk space on the transcoding instance, since encoding will happen in the temp space and once swift is used the source also needs to be copied there the instance needs more space, without the mediawiki tree it only has 200mb left [12:14:53] j^: ok I will create a folder /mnt/data let's use that for large files [12:16:02] petan|wk: ok, will have to look at the current code to see what the best way is to create the temp files there [12:16:50] regarding mediawiki setup, it needs a mediawiki tree + tmh extension, should this be on nfs or installed on the vm? [12:18:34] petan|wk: Sorry I was eating dinner, so mutante_ can create new projects? [12:19:41] man, Ryan should create some place which we can leave notices for him about creating new projects/accounts [12:19:59] I see him available like for less than 3 hours [12:20:08] j^: everything is on nfs [12:20:12] j^: I can remount it [12:20:19] Hydriz: yes [12:20:32] is he available? [12:20:34] or anyone [12:20:39] j^: just tell me where it should be, the files [12:20:40] I need someone availble [12:20:50] Hydriz: unfortunatelly probably not [12:21:00] only people who are in charge of that are busy 80% of time [12:21:05] heh lol [12:21:21] I sent an email on labs-l [12:21:22] I see someone suggesting about allowing people to create projects on labs-l [12:21:28] oh so its you haha [12:21:32] heh [12:21:45] you don't have a @wikimedia.org address? [12:21:49] no [12:21:51] or rather, you are not a staff? [12:21:52] how would I get it [12:21:54] no [12:21:56] cool [12:22:07] I thought you managed the deployment wikis [12:22:09] or depends on what staff is :) [12:22:11] so you might be staff [12:22:17] the sysadmins [12:22:17] I am not employed by wmf [12:22:20] icic [12:22:32] right, there are people with shell who aren't employed either [12:22:44] * Hydriz sighs, hoping that someone could create a project for him [12:22:54] yeah, very trusted people [12:22:56] are you one? [12:23:11] Hydriz: yes I manage deployment wikis :) and no I am not trusted one :D [12:23:14] petan|wk: so mounting the commons tree would work [12:23:21] heh [12:23:33] j^: all wiki files are in /usr/local/apache [12:23:38] it's same on all vm's [12:23:48] petan|wk: ok will have a look and see if more is neede [12:23:49] d [12:24:00] sure [12:24:02] and what happened when I wasn't here? [12:24:09] !log [12:24:11] oh [12:24:11] I see nagios conplaining [12:24:15] there is a log [12:24:17] a lot [12:24:18] see topic [12:24:23] Yeah I was looking at the log [12:24:26] ah [12:24:27] right [12:24:28] a long list of nagios messages [12:25:03] !leslie is if you wanted to break something, ask her :) [12:25:03] Key was added! [12:25:07] !leslie del [12:25:07] Successfully removed leslie [12:25:08] :P [12:25:17] johnduhart created revision D5. [12:25:28] Hydriz: Leslie was having fun with labs [12:25:31] that happened [12:25:34] LOL [12:25:43] D5 [12:25:43] D5 Tell the world about the king - http://phabricator.wmflabs.org/D5 [12:25:49] D5 [12:25:50] and whats this phabricator? [12:26:02] mysterious machine [12:26:18] :o [12:26:34] no idea [12:26:39] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator [12:26:58] icic [12:27:28] possible deployment to Wikimedia sites? [12:28:33] !project [12:28:33] https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nova_Resource:$1 [12:28:38] !projects [12:28:38] https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Ask/-5B-5BResource-20Type::project-5D-5D/-3F/-3FMember/-3FDescription/mainlabel%3D-2D [12:31:58] Change on 12mediawiki a page Wikimedia Labs was modified, changed by Petrb link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=490815 edit summary: new proposal [12:32:42] cool [12:32:48] changes notification [12:32:58] any change notification for labsconsole? [12:33:20] hm, does it report to irc? [12:33:27] I don't think so [12:33:42] yeah no [12:33:44] sadly [12:33:51] hm [12:35:30] cool: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Labs/Development_Process [12:35:36] is it even related to us? [12:35:40] yes [12:36:10] like how? [12:36:19] we create instances and install things ourself [12:36:29] we don't seem to use it, or are we supposed to use it [12:37:37] it's coming later [13:09:35] !docs [13:09:35] View complete documentation at https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Contents [13:09:42] yay [13:09:51] !documentation [13:09:51] https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Contents [13:25:26] MaxSem: around? [13:25:34] yup [13:25:50] I saw your email it's cool, can it be deployed to more wikis? [13:26:08] I mean, is it necessary to establish any consensus for that, because I didn't see any on enwiki [13:26:18] it's deployed everywhere [13:26:22] ah, ok [13:26:35] Also, [13:26:42] I didn't ask for one, I'm a rouge sysop [13:26:45] please assist your local communities in seting up their feeds [13:26:49] ^ [13:27:03] what kind of setup you mean [13:27:19] have you read the blog post? [13:27:22] no [13:27:29] I just saw the email now [13:27:37] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:FeaturedFeeds/WMF_deployment#How_to_set_up_a_feed [13:29:24] I will deploy it to beta [13:29:29] let's play with that there [13:29:32] I don't want to break prod [13:30:10] you won't:P [13:30:19] huh why? [13:30:37] you won't break it;P [13:30:47] I wouldn't be sure, being you :P [13:30:52] I can break stuff, really [13:30:54] :F [13:30:58] I am expert on that [13:31:50] * MaxSem --> away [13:35:18] done [13:35:36] WTF I just created an m1.medium [13:35:44] so? [13:35:47] :o [13:35:53] when it was complaining about failing all the time [13:35:54] what's problem [13:36:00] the ruby bug, remember? [13:36:07] Ryan pointed out yesterday [13:36:09] there is no bug I was aware of [13:36:13] it always work to me [13:36:18] I made a lot of m1 [13:36:22] petan|wk: did you see what I said after you left? [13:36:23] ... [13:36:27] hexmode: no [13:36:32] * hexmode hates on absolute symlinks [13:36:35] everybody creates m1 [13:36:42] but medium? [13:36:46] hexmode: ok should I make it relative [13:36:54] Hydriz: yes medium [13:37:03] hmm [13:37:04] we have one on prep too [13:37:14] I dunno, it always fails since I got an account for me [13:37:16] petan|wk: I just said that the problem came b/c I did 'cp -pr /usr/local/apache .' to my home dir [13:37:28] and then tried to work on the files [13:37:33] uh [13:37:45] w/o realizing I had copied an absolute symlink [13:37:45] ok that can be a problem heh [13:37:48] :D [13:37:55] don [13:37:59] k, got to go, but that was fyi [13:38:01] don't worry there is a backup [13:38:01] ;) [13:38:45] oh yes petan|wk: try to update the Getting started page, let newcomers know what to do :P [13:38:48] !gettingstarted [13:38:49] Welcome to Wikimedia Labs! Get yourself started at https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Getting_started [13:38:54] hexmode: it would be really cool if there was a global group edit interface for devs on prod :) [13:40:48] !gettingstarted del [13:40:48] Successfully removed gettingstarted [13:41:01] why? [13:41:12] !start is Welcome to Wikimedia Labs! Get yourself started at https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Getting_Started [13:41:12] Key was added! [13:41:18] :o [13:41:25] !gettingstarted [13:41:27] !gettingstarted alias start [13:41:28] Successfully created [13:41:30] !gettingstarted [13:41:30] Welcome to Wikimedia Labs! Get yourself started at https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Getting_Started [13:41:34] icic [13:41:46] I think we should keep that all in Help [13:41:48] space [13:41:59] if you want :P [13:42:13] it makes sense, we could even rename the space to Documentation [13:42:34] I don't like idea of mixing wiki pages of all sorts in one space [13:42:35] nah, I want to create something that people from the Toolserver can understand :P [13:42:45] up to you to move it [13:42:46] :P [13:42:49] ok [13:42:59] after all, this is wiki [13:43:09] weird one [13:43:12] but yes [13:44:08] WIKI: Without Interaction, Kills Improvement [13:48:06] good morning [13:48:13] what did i want to tell pe tan [13:48:19] meh [13:48:25] :o [13:48:37] hi Sumana [13:48:39] :) [13:48:40] hi sumanah [13:48:46] hi petan|wk, hi jeremyb [13:48:56] sumanah: back in NY? ready to party?! [13:49:02] yay [13:49:07] * petan|wk wants to party [13:49:14] Man I should know who these people are [13:49:15] back in NYC, yes. party-ready, not so much. [13:49:29] Hydriz: I am Sumana Harihareswara, volunteer development coordinator for the Wikimedia Foundation [13:49:41] Hydriz: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Sumanah [13:49:55] good to meet you. What do you work on & where do you live? :) [13:49:55] I see [13:50:09] what do I work, how do I start... [13:50:15] Archiving? [13:50:23] heh :) [13:50:26] If you mean what I am currently doing [13:50:30] Mainly archiving wikis [13:50:42] live? Asia :P [13:50:43] does sharihareswara@ go to you or they didn't bother? (this was up for debate ~ a month ago in #wikimedia) [13:50:45] you run misza bot? :) [13:51:07] me? [13:51:11] btw Hydriz I am running a project you may want to join [13:51:11] Hydriz: anywhere near any of our upcoming meetings? https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_developer_meetings [13:51:22] jeremyb: I believe that address does get to me, yes. [13:51:23] lol no haha [13:51:27] jeremyb: why does it matter? [13:51:29] petan|wk: ? [13:51:42] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/SharedIPArchiveBot [13:52:00] lol, not this archiving [13:52:03] ah [13:52:04] ok [13:52:09] as in, Wikimedia dumps? You know? [13:52:11] sumanah: well it was hard enough to remember how to spell philippe's first name right and he's not even uncommon. you'd be a real challenge [13:52:15] dumps.wikimedia.org and things [13:52:16] right [13:52:17] sumanah@ is much easier [13:52:31] yes it is. both sharihareswara@ and sumanah@ work. [13:52:34] not really hard. [13:52:47] sumanah: Nice to meet you :) [13:52:58] Hydriz: Thanks! and thanks for your work. [13:53:13] heh [13:53:18] work, not much lol [13:53:29] Hydriz: if there is anything Wikimedia Foundation can do to make your contributing easier, let me know [13:53:36] still in middle of education [13:53:59] sure :) [13:54:06] sumanah: my head is full of ideas, however no idea where to put them :D [13:54:15] petan|wk: your userpage on mw.org? [13:54:19] on a wiki? ;) [13:54:21] hm... maybe [13:54:25] Hydriz: are you in college or something like that? [13:54:30] but woulds omeone read it? [13:54:33] nah, much younger [13:54:34] maybe not on beta ;P [13:54:49] Hydriz: http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/ for if/when you eventually get to college [13:54:50] (for once I thought I was the youngest editor on Wikipedia) [13:55:02] Hydriz: we participate in that program every year, if possible [13:55:07] I see [13:55:16] again, still in the middle of education :P [13:55:18] Hydriz: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Summer_of_Code_Past_Projects [13:55:37] yeah, heard of it [13:55:43] hm... [13:55:48] quite interesting to see students working on big projects [13:55:54] hah! no way to know for sure who's youngest. people can make whole (fake) identities for their SUL [13:56:13] Hydriz: sure. and we're happy to have contributions from people of diverse ages [13:56:16] jeremyb: right, there is a picture of me on userpage, so people can guess it :P [13:56:29] lol [13:56:33] although angela's kid might be taught earliest? [13:56:40] :o [13:56:45] petan|wk: but that might not be you! [13:56:49] Hydriz: are you going to try to come to Wikimania? [13:56:55] petan|wk: or might not be recent [13:56:56] jeremyb: you would need to add me on facebook to confirm that [13:57:00] estimated in 2020 :P [13:57:01] :D [13:57:04] petan|wk: ewwww [13:57:05] thats the earliest [13:57:14]