[00:04:24] andrewbogott_afk: how do I enable extensions in essex? [00:04:30] there's no freaking docs for it :( [03:36:37] jesusaurus: and ::self ? [07:09:36] If it's not too much trouble, could someone add me to the Bots and Testing projects on wmflabs? [07:12:28] or...maybe not :o [07:32:09] Fastily you are there [07:32:24] Yes, I am [07:32:33] in bots, I mean [07:32:39] :D [07:32:51] ah, one second, let me check [07:33:00] 08/01/2012 - 07:32:59 - Created a home directory for fastily in project(s): bots [07:33:19] yes I am! [07:33:30] Thanks petan! :) [07:34:02] 08/01/2012 - 07:34:01 - User fastily may have been modified in LDAP or locally, updating key in project(s): bots [08:01:01] 08/01/2012 - 08:01:01 - Created a home directory for hashar in project(s): wikidata-dev [08:02:01] 08/01/2012 - 08:02:01 - User hashar may have been modified in LDAP or locally, updating key in project(s): wikidata-dev [08:03:01] 08/01/2012 - 08:03:00 - User robla may have been modified in LDAP or locally, updating key in project(s): wikidata-dev [08:04:02] 08/01/2012 - 08:04:02 - User tstarling may have been modified in LDAP or locally, updating key in project(s): wikidata-dev [08:04:47] !putty | Fastily [08:04:47] Fastily: official site: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ | how to tunnel - http://oldsite.precedence.co.uk/nc/putty.html [08:05:00] !forwarding [08:05:03] 08/01/2012 - 08:05:03 - Created a home directory for csteipp in project(s): wikidata-dev [08:05:04] !ssh [08:05:04] https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:SSH [08:05:09] !accesss [08:05:15] !access [08:05:15] https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Access#Accessing_public_and_private_instances [08:05:20] @seach forward [08:06:03] 08/01/2012 - 08:06:02 - User csteipp may have been modified in LDAP or locally, updating key in project(s): wikidata-dev [08:07:42] @search ssh [08:07:42] Results (Found 4): pageant, ssh, socks-proxy, git-puppet, [08:08:13] Fastily you either need to create key on bastion or use forwarding [08:08:40] !forwarding is https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Access#Using_agent_forwarding [08:08:41] Key was added [08:08:53] petan: Okay, I'm ssh'd into bastion using "'ssh -A fastily@bastion.wmflabs.org" [08:09:04] I just ran ssh-keygen [08:09:19] insert your public key to console [08:09:22] !keys [08:09:22] http://bots.wmflabs.org/~petrb/db/ list of infobot keys [08:09:25] eh [08:09:26] !ssh [08:09:26] https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:SSH [08:09:27] left all fields blank and pressed enter [08:09:41] Fastily you need to insert public key to console [08:09:44] !labsconsole [08:09:44] 208.80.152.32 [08:09:47] o.o [08:09:53] !labsconsole del [08:09:53] Unable to find the specified key in db [08:09:54] how do I do that? :o [08:10:16] !labsconsole https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki http://208.80.152.32/ [08:10:17] 208.80.152.32 [08:10:24] oh wait [08:10:29] one sec [08:10:34] !labsconsole is https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki http://208.80.152.32/ [08:10:34] Key was added [08:10:37] !labsconsole [08:10:37] https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki http://208.80.152.32/ [08:10:40] ok [08:10:45] !ssh | Fastily [08:10:45] Fastily: https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:SSH [08:10:47] here is guide [08:11:17] also you want to use bots-4, not bots-1 [08:11:26] bots-1 is already full [08:13:46] petan: I've been using dsa all this time...should be using rsa? [08:13:59] dsa is ok [08:14:01] 08/01/2012 - 08:14:01 - User fastily may have been modified in LDAP or locally, updating key in project(s): bastion [08:15:00] okay, so I've copied my local public key into the authorized_keys files on bastion [08:16:00] and I now have a public key on bastion, which I just created using 'ssh-keygen' [08:18:31] Fastily don't copy anything, it's done by a bot [08:18:43] insert it to labsconsole [08:18:44] !ssh [08:18:44] https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:SSH [08:18:46] read it [08:18:57] bot will insert it to all instances for you [08:19:00] so that you can ssh there [08:19:01] 08/01/2012 - 08:19:01 - User fastily may have been modified in LDAP or locally, updating key in project(s): bots,bastion [08:19:24] 08/01/2012 - 08:19:24 - Updating keys for fastily at /export/keys/fastily [08:19:54] Oh, I see! That makes sense [08:20:01] 08/01/2012 - 08:20:01 - User fastily may have been modified in LDAP or locally, updating key in project(s): bots,bastion [08:20:24] 08/01/2012 - 08:20:24 - Updating keys for fastily at /export/keys/fastily [08:22:00] petan: Okay, bots-4 worked! :D [08:22:08] Thanks! [08:22:14] good [08:22:24] don't forget to log stuff [08:22:29] when you change something in system [08:22:35] !logging [08:22:35] To log a message, use the following format: !log [08:22:44] okay, will do [08:22:48] oh [08:22:55] two more quick questions [08:23:02] 08/01/2012 - 08:23:02 - Created a home directory for demon in project(s): wikidata-dev [08:24:02] 08/01/2012 - 08:24:02 - User demon may have been modified in LDAP or locally, updating key in project(s): wikidata-dev [08:24:20] do executing bot scripts I run on bots-4 quit when I exit ssh? [08:24:34] when you run it in screen then yes [08:25:07] I'm guessing I'd have to use crontab? [08:28:03] 08/01/2012 - 08:28:03 - User fastily may have been modified in LDAP or locally, updating key in project(s): bots,bastion [08:28:25] 08/01/2012 - 08:28:25 - Updating keys for fastily at /export/keys/fastily [08:32:36] petan: I think I figured it out! Thanks for all your help! :)) [08:33:00] Fastily you can use whatever you like [08:33:41] Yeah, I figured that much :P crontab will work best for my bots :D [10:41:11] hi :) [10:50:01] hashar: hi [10:50:26] paravoid: hello :-D [10:50:50] paravoid: I came across a nice issue with Gluster that would not honor renaming a file (throw a permission denied error :/) [10:51:01] ryan is going to upgrade Gluster later tonight [11:00:16] yeah I saw that... [11:00:31] it'll probably solve this problem and create another two or something [11:56:06] paravoid: what could we do to make deployment-dbdump instance to stop sending syslog to remote ? https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/16661/ [11:56:28] I would love to finally have some syslog on the instance :-D [11:57:57] hm [11:58:21] at one point I thought about having a rsyslog::disabled class that would simply ensure that rsyslog is uninstalled :-D [11:58:24] so, wait, it sends *only* to remote? [11:58:34] and apply that to the nfs1/nfs2/deployment-dbdump machines [12:00:48] paravoid: I am not sure what you are asking :) [12:00:56] $ cat 30-remote-syslog.conf [12:00:56] *.info;mail.none;authpriv.none;cron.none @deployment-dbdump.pmtpa.wmflabs [12:01:07] but there is still the local logging to various files / xconsole [12:01:42] right [12:02:03] the syslog-ng conf apparently handle the default files too destination df_kern { file("/var/log/kern.log"); }; [12:02:09] # kern.* -/var/log/kern.log [12:02:10] log { [12:02:11] source(s_all); [12:02:13] filter(f_kern); [12:02:14] destination(df_kern); [12:02:15] }; [12:02:16] and so on [12:03:21] anyway my two other solutions are 1) ensure rsyslog package is absent 2) introduce a new global variable like $remote_syslog and have it set to false for a set of hosts / instance names [12:03:29] but 2) is still has tacky as the current class :/ [12:03:49] let me have a better look [12:03:54] and if I don't find something more elegant [12:04:03] I promise I'll merge that awful hack :) [12:04:58] ;) [13:52:09] hi labs crowd! [13:52:31] I got my labs account a while back (at Wikimania), but I'm a bit stuck right now [13:52:59] I've browsed the docs, but at the most basic level it says find a project admin to add you to a project [13:53:11] I don't see how I can start a project [13:58:12] dschwen: what are you willing to work on ? [13:58:28] dschwen: you might get a new project or be added to an existing one :) [14:00:42] I think labs is not ready to support the WikiMiniAtlas yet, from what I heard at wikimania [14:00:56] the Commons Zoomviewer however would be a better starter project [14:01:07] it is much simpler, and widely used tool [14:01:30] it generates multiresolution pyramids of images, and serves them through a flash or javascript interface [14:02:52] dschwen: I can't find out where to ask for project creations :/ [14:02:54] hi dschwen ! [14:03:05] hi! [14:03:26] labs is experimental (e.g. not to be relied on) [14:03:35] but if you want to test, we have a maps project and we can add you [14:03:35] sure [14:03:39] there you can create instances [14:03:42] ok [14:03:57] it's not like the toolserver can be relied on ;-) oops! [14:04:00] or if you want your own project that can be done too [14:04:16] maps project is fine [14:04:25] do you have osm db access? [14:04:43] and access to all the wikipedia/wikimedia wiki dbs? [14:05:20] no we don't [14:05:44] not wikipedia yet [14:06:03] ok, but it might be good for me just to get started on labs [14:06:37] for the zoomviewer I would recommend a separate project though [14:06:51] have you seen the latest WikiMiniAtlas? [14:07:11] latest as in "yesterday" [14:07:17] http://toolserver.org/~dschwen/wma/index_dev.html [14:07:44] dschwen: added you [14:07:53] dschwen: yes, it's very cool [14:07:55] thanks [14:08:01] 08/01/2012 - 14:08:01 - Created a home directory for dschwen in project(s): maps [14:08:20] ok, let me see Iif I can figure out how to log in [14:08:20] i'm trying to learn puppet, and setting up osm rails + api with puppet [14:08:30] so we have an instance for that and i'm using test3 [14:08:40] apmon is working on the others and tim is working on tilemill [14:09:02] 08/01/2012 - 14:09:01 - User dschwen may have been modified in LDAP or locally, updating key in project(s): maps [14:20:45] hm [14:21:02] it denies my key. I added a new one just after I was added to the maps project [14:21:15] it does not update the keys automatically? [14:22:53] let me see.... [14:23:46] ryan lane or someone might be better to help with that but maybe i can figure it out [14:25:19] jeremyb: can you help us? [14:25:30] too early for ryan to be here [14:27:33] yeah [14:27:42] what timezone are you in? [14:28:14] i am in germany now [14:28:27] jeremyb is in nyc and might be able to help [14:28:43] ryan would be in SF and who knows if he's on vacation.... [14:29:07] * jeremyb looks up [14:29:11] paravoid: can you help? [14:29:18] what's up? [14:29:18] * aude not sure who ryan's deputy is for labs stuff [14:29:19] oh, right, I didn't make the connection, but we've met at Wikimania! [14:29:20] with? [14:29:26] dschwen: yep [14:29:34] morning paravoid [14:29:38] evening :) [14:29:45] paravoid: dschwen ssh keys for dschewn [14:29:46] no! [14:29:47] dschwen: [14:29:55] i added him to the maps project and he can't login yet [14:30:09] do keys get automaticall updated or what? [14:30:10] i added a new key in gerrit after she added me [14:30:20] i see 2 keys for dschwen [14:30:26] let me try again [14:30:29] in ldap. idk about in gerrit [14:30:35] they don't share keys [14:30:40] gerrit's ssh key management is totally separate from labs [14:30:43] unfortunately [14:30:45] oh, darn [14:30:49] sorry, my bad then [14:30:50] you need to add keys in the wiki [14:30:59] paravoid: but he does have 2 in ldap already [14:31:10] it's probably the cache again [14:31:13] which instance is that? [14:31:20] I was on that page and saw two keys, but didn't check which ones [14:32:24] i had two in the ldap before [14:32:33] added the new one which makes it 3 [14:32:58] cannot login yet though, I'll give it a few more minutes [14:33:01] 08/01/2012 - 14:33:01 - User dschwen may have been modified in LDAP or locally, updating key in project(s): maps [14:33:07] ha! [14:33:24] 08/01/2012 - 14:33:23 - Updating keys for dschwen at /export/keys/dschwen [14:33:29] good good [14:33:51] now i see 3 keys for him! [14:34:15] and I ged a new and different ssh error: Connection closed by 208.80.153.207 [14:34:36] (rather than permission denied) [14:34:48] what is 208.80.153.207 ? [14:34:54] bastion? [14:34:57] what are you running? [14:35:23] it's bastion indeed [14:35:27] linux [14:35:38] I followed the ProxyCommand instructions [14:36:34] dschwen: can you try "ssh bastion.wmflabs.org" for me? [14:37:40] yeah, just did [14:37:43] same error [14:38:00] connection closed by ... (same ip) [14:38:21] who is dschoon? IMPOSTOR!! [14:38:30] ;-) [14:39:19] dschwen: try again? [14:39:41] sorry, same thing [14:39:45] although now maybe cached... [14:39:51] paravoid: dump the cache on bastion? [14:39:52] I just flushed the cache [14:39:55] again? [14:39:58] so, you weren't on project-bastion [14:40:02] right [14:40:07] * jeremyb added him [14:40:13] bastion works [14:40:15] and I flushed the cache, so that should work [14:40:16] $ groups dschwen [14:40:16] dschwen : svn project-bastion project-maps [14:40:18] great [14:40:25] the proxycommand thing to maps doesn't [14:40:29] new error though [14:40:29] which instance is that? [14:40:39] channel 0: open failed: administratively prohibited: open failed [14:40:51] maps [14:41:02] 08/01/2012 - 14:41:02 - Created a home directory for dschwen in project(s): bastion [14:41:15] there is no maps [14:41:18] which instance? [14:41:29] !resource maps | dschwen [14:41:29] dschwen: https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nova_Resource:maps [14:42:03] 08/01/2012 - 14:42:02 - User dschwen may have been modified in LDAP or locally, updating key in project(s): bastion [14:42:27] aude: which instance can I play on? [14:42:45] ah, can i add people to bastion? [14:42:49] or should I roll a new one? [14:42:53] dschwen: you can make a new one [14:43:01] ok [14:43:09] * aude has to delete one of the osm rails ones (had problems with labs this past weekend) [14:43:12] aude: yes, but don't do it much... [14:43:15] i'm also playing with test-3 [14:43:19] aude: can has maps ? ;-) [14:43:20] jeremyb: ok [14:43:33] tim is working on tilemill and has stuff to see i think [14:43:49] apmon is working on the others and not sure what to play with [14:43:53] aude: what problem? was it corrupt? [14:44:01] think he's importing osm database and testing import settings [14:44:19] jeremyb: ldap was not working so i was never able to login until ryan fixed it [14:44:25] huh [14:44:30] jeremyb: all fixed [14:44:38] but that didn't require nuking an instance? [14:44:55] jeremyb: i created extra instances, thinking the second one might work ;) [14:45:08] is it possible that I do not have permission to create a new instance? [14:45:09] now everything works and i don't need duplicates [14:45:19] dschwen: hmmm.... [14:45:26] paravoid: danke [14:45:54] dschwen: are you in? [14:46:09] jeremyb: paravoid do i have to add dschwen as sysadmin for him to create instances? [14:46:15] yes [14:46:34] aude: is he in the office? [14:46:44] ok [14:47:00] yes [14:47:04] I feel useless [14:47:06] dschwen: try again [14:47:10] jeremyb is so much quicker than me [14:47:11] heh [14:47:20] paravoid: what time zone are you in? [14:47:27] aude: apergos [14:47:56] paravoid: now you know how i feel when someone needs banning. almost always someone else gets it first [14:48:01] aude: EEST == EET + DST == GMT+3 [14:48:04] yeah! [14:48:13] paravoid: no, UTC! [14:48:31] * aude met a labs person in berlin [14:48:36] hi paravoid ! :) [14:48:39] who is that? [14:48:54] aude: we definitely met in Berlin [14:48:55] he was sort of ryan's deputy [14:49:03] andrew bogott? [14:49:07] paravoid: that's you? [14:49:09] nick=andrewbogott [14:49:12] probably met andrew also [14:49:18] * aude terrible with names [14:49:19] Andrew was not in Berlin [14:49:27] * andrewbogott waves hello [14:49:36] heya Andrew :) [14:50:15] aude: my name is Faidon, we met in Berlin, I'm a staffer and a labs person [14:50:21] :-) [14:50:29] and I live in Athens, Greece. [14:51:00] paravoid: ah, yes [14:51:06] i remember now [14:51:13] jeremyb is confusing me [14:51:23] * aude knows apergos [14:51:25] there's also a picture of me in the staff & contractors page :-) [14:51:27] and he was not in berlin [14:51:31] aude: Handy face:name correlator http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Staff_and_contractors [14:51:39] aude: his *timezone* is apergos [14:51:45] paravoid: yes [14:51:45] jeremyb meant that we both live in the same city [14:51:49] jeremyb: ok :) [14:52:18] * aude dislikes the cloak of invisibility [14:52:18] aude: so, feel free to ping me for labs-related troubles. [14:52:27] paravoid: ok, thanks [14:55:05] aude: http://i.imgur.com/PvMg6.jpg [14:55:20] aude: from http://www.flickr.com/photos/wouterverhelst/7565045766/in/photostream/ [14:55:37] aude: go to asheesh at the bottom, over one to the left and then up [14:56:44] jeremyb: I'm in the staff page, no need for that :) [14:56:45] jeremyb: yes, i remember now [14:56:59] paravoid: heh, i like my method ;) [14:57:03] hehe [14:57:03] paravoid: and you were not at wikimania? [14:57:08] I wasn't [14:57:08] nope! [14:57:11] aw :( [14:57:14] I was at the picture above :) [14:57:15] hong kong! [14:57:22] paravoid is just omnipresent [14:57:23] DebConf12, Nicaragua [14:57:33] paravoid: then how was paulproteus in the picture? ;-) [14:57:49] jeremyb: with the power of gimp ;-) [14:58:05] bdale wasn't happy ;P [14:58:08] hehehehe [14:58:50] I just created a new instance and it is shown as running. Attempting to log in gives a permission denied. [14:59:04] has puppet run yet? [14:59:13] dschwen: check the log. sometimes there's a delay before puppet's done. you can't log in immediately [14:59:22] (console) [14:59:46] c_rehash should improve that a little [15:00:03] aude: 01 14:46:34 < jeremyb> aude: is he in the office? [15:00:22] ok, yeah, I'm looking at the console utput [15:00:32] paravoid: who's the guy with no shirt looking away? [15:00:38] sorry for being impatient ;-) [15:00:45] I'm just excited [15:00:52] paravoid: did the venue have a shoe requirement policy? [15:01:04] dschwen: we understand ;) [15:01:23] dschwen: would be so nice to have a live stream of the console... [15:01:33] jeremyb: I don't know, I always wear shoes when I'm outside :-) [15:01:44] jeremyb: who? he? [15:01:49] paravoid: i mean inside. remember taffit? [15:01:55] aude: dschwen [15:01:59] just a bit of socket.io [15:02:03] jeremyb: no [15:02:10] he was at wikimania [15:02:19] I wore shoes! [15:02:22] and a shirt [15:02:25] we don't do maps at WMDE [15:02:25] haha [15:02:29] * aude does maps as a volunteer [15:02:37] oh. how odd [15:03:05] I don't see anything odd about wearing shirts [15:03:14] believe me, it is for the best of you all [15:03:23] dschwen: no, the not doing maps [15:03:39] oh [15:03:56] aude: can I reboot three of your instances? [15:04:02] paravoid: you may [15:04:17] * aude will delete one of the osm rails ones but can't remember which one i was using [15:04:29] so, aude, I was totally excited about the SOTM-US in Portland [15:04:53] unfortunately I have to be in Germany for a wedding on the 15th (SOTM is 13,14th of Oct) :-( [15:05:12] :( [15:05:14] I have to interact more with OSM people [15:05:31] i see rain [15:05:35] dschwen: maybe some mapping parties? [15:06:08] well, yeah, I'm mapping by myself, or when I'm hiking with my kids [15:06:14] ah, okay [15:06:15] I live fairly remotely [15:06:22] * aude will be at state of the map tokyo this year [15:06:33] I don't think there is a big OSM comminity here in northern New Mexico [15:06:38] last time i attended was 2009 [15:06:38] nice [15:06:41] dschwen: right [15:07:21] try to sum up all the maps and geo stuff that wikimedians are doing and would like to give a lightning talk [15:07:34] * aude about mobile maps and apps [15:07:36] and other stuff [15:07:50] so, how stable are instances. Can or should I copy large amounts of data onto my instance? (map tiles), import a big mysql database, etc. [15:08:02] or would that be a waste of time and space [15:08:04] not too stable but it depends [15:08:10] can instances be resized? [15:08:11] the wikidata one seems stable [15:08:25] don't think they can be resized but there is additional storage available i think [15:08:38] dschwen: you're in NM? [15:09:01] yeah [15:09:03] https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Shared_storage [15:09:05] near Snata Fe [15:09:14] in Los Alamos to be precise [15:09:29] like the toolserver but more space availalbe [15:10:07] why? do you know any OSM,WM etc. people here? [15:10:21] * aude doubts it [15:10:24] hah [15:10:27]