[00:20:33] RECOVERY Free ram is now: OK on abogott-request-tracker.pmtpa.wmflabs 10.4.1.48 output: OK: 43% free memory [01:03:32] PROBLEM Free ram is now: WARNING on abogott-request-tracker.pmtpa.wmflabs 10.4.1.48 output: Warning: 12% free memory [01:08:43] PROBLEM Total processes is now: WARNING on bots-salebot.pmtpa.wmflabs 10.4.0.163 output: PROCS WARNING: 168 processes [01:13:43] RECOVERY Total processes is now: OK on bots-salebot.pmtpa.wmflabs 10.4.0.163 output: PROCS OK: 91 processes [02:47:22] PROBLEM Free ram is now: WARNING on changefeed-bot.pmtpa.wmflabs 10.4.0.240 output: Warning: 18% free memory [04:59:33] PROBLEM Total processes is now: WARNING on parsoid-spof.pmtpa.wmflabs 10.4.0.33 output: PROCS WARNING: 151 processes [05:04:32] RECOVERY Total processes is now: OK on parsoid-spof.pmtpa.wmflabs 10.4.0.33 output: PROCS OK: 150 processes [06:13:33] PROBLEM Total processes is now: WARNING on parsoid-spof.pmtpa.wmflabs 10.4.0.33 output: PROCS WARNING: 151 processes [06:29:53] PROBLEM Total processes is now: WARNING on parsoid-roundtrip4-8core.pmtpa.wmflabs 10.4.0.39 output: PROCS WARNING: 154 processes [06:32:22] RECOVERY Free ram is now: OK on changefeed-bot.pmtpa.wmflabs 10.4.0.240 output: OK: 47% free memory [06:47:32] PROBLEM Total processes is now: WARNING on bots-2.pmtpa.wmflabs 10.4.0.42 output: PROCS WARNING: 154 processes [06:49:52] RECOVERY Total processes is now: OK on parsoid-roundtrip4-8core.pmtpa.wmflabs 10.4.0.39 output: PROCS OK: 150 processes [06:52:33] RECOVERY Total processes is now: OK on bots-2.pmtpa.wmflabs 10.4.0.42 output: PROCS OK: 144 processes [06:55:23] PROBLEM Free ram is now: WARNING on bots-2.pmtpa.wmflabs 10.4.0.42 output: Warning: 18% free memory [06:55:25] Ryan_Lane, if you're around (or if you get this later): has any progress been made on fixing the issue I was having with Gerrit? [06:56:31] It's been several days now. [07:15:22] RECOVERY Free ram is now: OK on bots-2.pmtpa.wmflabs 10.4.0.42 output: OK: 21% free memory [07:30:19] franny: did ^demon not handle it for you? [07:33:16] Does anyone know the project name for wikidata on wm-bot? [07:33:37] Ryan_Lane, doesn't look like it. [07:33:40] petan: ^ [07:33:42] PROBLEM Free ram is now: CRITICAL on dumps-bot3.pmtpa.wmflabs 10.4.0.118 output: Critical: 5% free memory [07:33:46] franny: let me try [07:33:49] I've tried wikidata, wikidata_wiki, wikidatawiki [07:33:56] wikidata-dev [07:34:25] Ryan_Lane: didnt work [07:34:39] what are you trying? [07:35:13] [11:34:12 PM] <+legoktm> @RC+ wikidata-dev User_talk:Legoktm [07:35:13] [11:34:14 PM] <+wm-bot> Unable to insert the string to the list because there is no such wiki site known by a bot, contact some developer with svn access in order to insert it [07:35:32] oh [07:35:33] wiki name? [07:35:36] I have no clue [07:35:42] wikidatawp? [07:36:05] didnt work :( [07:36:14] I have no clue what it is [07:36:28] is the full list in a git repo somewhere? [07:36:43] found it [07:37:40] (the repo, not the name) [07:38:00] franny: try logging into gerrit with username Fran McCrory [07:38:47] Same thing, Ryan_Lane. [07:38:52] ok [07:39:05] I have no idea, I'll just wait for petan... [07:40:36] franny: try again now [07:42:44] Same thing. [07:45:14] franny: one more time, while I'm tailing the logs? [07:46:12] Done. [07:46:20] ok. let me try to figure out what I need to fix [07:47:27] franny: ok, try now [07:49:29] Same thing. [07:49:35] yeah [07:56:03] I have to sleep right now; I'll be back tomorrow. Thank you for the help. [07:57:42] yw [08:34:38] hm [08:34:39] legoktm [08:34:45] hi [08:35:07] @labs-project-info wikidata [08:35:07] I don't know this project, sorry, try browsing the list by hand, but I can guarantee there is no such project matching this name unless it has been created less than 43 seconds ago [08:35:13] @labs-project-info wikidata-dev [08:35:13] The project Wikidata-dev has 8 instances and 18 members, description: Wikidata aims to create a free knowledge base about the world that can be read and edited by humans and machines alike. It will provide data in all the languages of the Wikimedia projects, and allow for the central access to data in a similar vein as Wikimedia Commons does for multimedia files. Wikidata is proposed as a new Wikimedia hosted and maintained project. [08:36:23] legoktm what you meant? [08:36:56] no, i want to @RC+ a page on wikidata, but i dont know the project name [08:37:16] like @RC+ wikidata User_talk:Legoktm wasn't working [08:37:25] aha [08:37:28] true [08:37:38] what is channel name on wmf irc? [08:38:43] i uh…no idea [08:39:46] it's not #www.wikidata [08:40:27] #incubator.wikimedia|https://incubator.wikimedia.org/w/index.php|incubator_wiki [08:40:41] this is what I need [08:40:42] :D [08:41:06] I suppose #en.wikidata [08:41:08] ? [08:41:11] let's try [08:41:19] nope [08:41:25] wikidata is one language [08:41:29] ooh [08:41:33] wikidatawiki? [08:41:44] or maybe just wikidata.wikimedia [08:41:59] @seen mutante [08:41:59] petan: mutante is in here, right now [08:42:04] mutante ping [08:42:52] #wikidata.wikipedia [08:42:56] petan: ^ [08:50:42] k [08:52:01] sec [08:52:06] @system-rm RC [08:52:06] Unloaded module RC [08:52:20] @feed-off [08:52:36] File not found modules/wmib_feed.bin [08:52:43] Loaded module modules/wmib_rc.bin [08:52:59] @recentchanges+ wikidata [08:53:00] Wiki inserted [08:53:10] legoktm should work now alias is wikidata [08:53:39] awesome, thanks :D [08:58:34] does it work? :D [08:58:46] @RC+ wikidata Wi* [08:58:47] Inserted new item to feed of changes [09:07:51] petan: yeah it did sorry [09:08:04] ok weird I don't see any changes though [09:08:29] @RC+ wikidata Q* [09:08:30] Inserted new item to feed of changes [09:08:31] Change on 12wikidata a page Q1644684 was modified, changed by Sk!dbot link https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?diff=3334870 edit summary: /* wbeditentity */ Bot: Item is a disambiguation page. Added description for: ru,fr,en,pt,ca,de,it,nb,fa,ms,fi,id,es, [09:08:34] @RC- wikidata Q* [09:08:35] Deleted item from feed [09:08:37] oh [09:08:39] ok [09:08:43] @RC- wikidata Wi* [09:08:43] Deleted item from feed [09:09:25] these Q* identifiers are not fortunate solution [09:09:31] very hard to remember [09:09:41] why we have numbers instead of human friendly names? [09:10:01] because human friendly names are language dependent [09:10:06] ok [09:10:07] numbers are more universal [09:10:32] also then you end up with Person (actor born March 1972) [10:32:04] @labs-project-users bast [10:32:04] I don't know this project, did you mean: Bastion? I can guarantee there is no such project matching this name unless it has been created less than 18 seconds ago [10:32:21] legoktm now it's more idiot proof :D [10:32:31] @labs-project-info wikidata [10:32:32] I don't know this project, sorry, try browsing the list by hand, but I can guarantee there is no such project matching this name unless it has been created less than 45 seconds ago [10:32:35] :D [10:32:44] mm [10:32:48] this should have suggest wikidata-dev [10:32:54] @labs-project-users wikidata [10:32:54] I don't know this project, sorry, try browsing the list by hand, but I can guarantee there is no such project matching this name unless it has been created less than 8 seconds ago [10:33:00] @labs-project-users wikidata-dev [10:33:00] I don't know this project, sorry, try browsing the list by hand, but I can guarantee there is no such project matching this name unless it has been created less than 14 seconds ago [10:33:06] interesting [10:37:57] @labs-project-users wikidata-dev [10:37:57] Following users are in this project: Aaron Schulz, Ataherivand, Aude, CSteipp, Daniel Kinzler, Demon, Hashar, Jens Ohlig, Ryan Lane, Novaadmin, Reedy, RobLa, Silke Meyer, Tim Starling, Denny Vrandecic, Anja Jentzsch, Andrew Bogott, Jeroen De Dauw, [10:38:45] * DanielK_WMDE blinks [10:38:54] just was fixing [10:43:30] * Damianz pats DanielK_WMDE [10:45:55] megaping [11:06:17] :) petan hehe [11:06:46] but it's fixed :P [11:06:51] now everyone can find your project [11:21:48] Change on 12mediawiki a page Wikimedia Labs/Toolserver features wanted in Tool Labs was modified, changed by DrTrigon link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=623968 edit summary: [+35] /* Labs wide (not only bots / tools), but available for all projects */ [11:29:05] Change on 12mediawiki a page Wikimedia Labs/Toolserver features needed in Tool Labs was modified, changed by DrTrigon link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=623970 edit summary: [+158] /* Web */ formatting / + ref to JIRA [11:33:40] Change on 12mediawiki a page Wikimedia Labs/Toolserver features needed in Tool Labs was modified, changed by DrTrigon link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=623972 edit summary: [+259] /* Job-system */ + e.g. stable cron [11:36:59] Change on 12mediawiki a page Wikimedia Labs/Toolserver features needed in Tool Labs was modified, changed by DrTrigon link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=623975 edit summary: [+285] /* Web */ more status [11:39:43] Change on 12mediawiki a page Wikimedia Labs/Toolserver features needed in Tool Labs was modified, changed by DrTrigon link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=623976 edit summary: [+69] /* Backup */ + including config files [11:41:56] Change on 12mediawiki a page Wikimedia Labs/Toolserver features needed in Tool Labs was modified, changed by DrTrigon link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=623977 edit summary: [+49] /* Various */ + mail forwarding [11:48:12] Change on 12mediawiki a page Wikimedia Labs/Toolserver features needed in Tool Labs was modified, changed by DrTrigon link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=623981 edit summary: [+57] formatting / make 'done' visible [11:49:33] Change on 12mediawiki a page Wikimedia Labs/Toolserver features needed in Tool Labs was modified, changed by DrTrigon link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=623982 edit summary: [+58] + [[../Toolserver features needed in Tool Labs]] [11:53:52] Change on 12mediawiki a page Wikimedia Labs/Toolserver features needed in Tool Labs was modified, changed by DrTrigon link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=623984 edit summary: [+51] /* Web */ + server for tools and pages [11:57:22] Change on 12mediawiki a page Wikimedia Labs/Toolserver features wanted in Tool Labs was modified, changed by DrTrigon link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=623985 edit summary: [-37] formatting / make 'done' visible [13:11:26] !log bots ireas: Installed qt4-qmake and libqt4-dev on bots-4. [13:23:25] @labs-user Ireas [13:23:25] Ireas is member of 2 projects: Bastion, Bots, [13:23:35] never heard of that guy [13:23:39] * addshore waves at petan [13:23:47] that's you? :D [13:23:49] hi [13:23:52] no :P [13:24:17] paravoid if you had a moment can you insert me to webtools? [13:27:37] petan, Im guessing if i ftp to bastion, upload something to my home then ssh to bots-4 i should be able to see it? [13:29:12] @labs-user Addshore [13:29:12] Addshore is member of 4 projects: Bastion, Bots, Huggle, Hugglewa, [13:29:59] no [13:30:11] you need to scp to bastion, then scp from bastion to bots-4 [13:30:19] >.< [13:30:20] :< [13:30:20] that sucks a bit, I know [13:30:42] i just have a very weired moment, when i uploaded something to bots-4 and now it appears everywhere :P [13:30:44] we could actually have a public sftp server or something but I don't know if Ryan would like it [13:30:59] home is shared per project [13:31:06] ahhh [13:31:07] so $HOME in bots-1 is same as on bots-nr1 [13:31:13] okay :) [13:31:17] but bastion is a different project [13:31:23] per @labs-info bastion1 :P [13:31:26] makes sense :) [13:31:58] now, how to scp through an scp? [13:35:22] you can tunel a scp [13:35:24] through ssh [13:35:32] @search tunel [13:35:32] No results were found, remember, the bot is searching through content of keys and their names [13:35:36] @search tunnel [13:35:36] Results (Found 1): putty, [13:35:43] well, this sucks [13:36:14] ;p [13:36:21] okay, shame there is no easier way :0 [13:38:56] !tunnel is ssh -f user@bastion.wmflabs.org -L :server: -N Example for sftp "ssh chewbacca@bastion.wmflabs.org -L 6000:bots-1:22 -N" will open bots-1:22 as localhost:6000 [13:38:56] Key was added [13:39:01] addshore ^ [13:39:31] [= [13:40:07] so you execute this, then you sftp to localhost:6000 and you directly upload to bots-1 [13:41:53] !-f is when you are forwarding some port using ssh you should use parameters -fN which bring ssh on background without spawning any remote shell [13:41:53] Key was added [13:43:09] addshore btw you need to have ssh installed for this :P if you are on windows... [13:43:24] yep i know :P [13:43:39] i have tunnels just using putty before, it will be a bit of a hastle but pah! [13:43:47] or ill go boot up a virtual machine :) [13:43:57] !msys is MSYS is a collection of GNU utilities such as bash, make, gawk and grep for windows http://www.mingw.org/wiki/MSYS [13:43:58] Key was added [13:44:37] addshore or install msys :D [13:44:41] better than virtual [13:44:47] :D [13:44:57] I <3 git in msys [13:45:03] it's like on linux [13:45:52] basically MSYS make your windows machine behave like if it had linux terminal with all common tools [13:49:08] :D [13:49:13] i have always wanted something like that xD [13:53:13] I have C:\BIN on my path and http://unxutils.sourceforge.net/ unpacked there, also nice [14:01:43] PROBLEM Total processes is now: WARNING on bastion1.pmtpa.wmflabs 10.4.0.54 output: PROCS WARNING: 153 processes [14:16:43] RECOVERY Total processes is now: OK on bastion1.pmtpa.wmflabs 10.4.0.54 output: PROCS OK: 147 processes [14:20:19] 01/04/2013 - 14:20:18 - Updating keys for demon at /export/keys/demon [14:42:41] Hello, can anyone help me with saving my SSH key on Labs? [14:53:01] Hello, can anyone help me with saving my SSH key on Labs? [14:53:20] russblau: I can try -- what error message are you running into? [14:53:43] RECOVERY Free ram is now: OK on dumps-bot3.pmtpa.wmflabs 10.4.0.118 output: OK: 60% free memory [14:54:58] sumanah: "Failed to import keypair." I generated a keypair using Puttygen (following the instructions on [[Help:Putty]] religiously), and pasted into [[Special:NovaKey]], tried several times [14:57:45] russblau hi [14:57:57] you need to upload your public key [14:58:03] that is the one with .pub [14:58:20] !keys [14:58:20] http://bots.wmflabs.org/~petrb/db/ list of infobot keys [14:58:24] eh [14:58:26] !ssh [14:58:26] https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:SSH [14:58:27] petan: Yes, that's what I did; copied the entire text of the public key and pasted into the textbox on [[Special:NovaKey]] [14:58:53] is it rsa or dsa? [14:59:24] RSA, 2048 bits [14:59:46] ok that should be ok [14:59:52] what error you get [15:00:00] petan: "Failed to import keypair." [15:00:04] you need to copy paste it as you see it with all symbols [15:01:01] Ryan doesn't make descriptive error messages :P [15:01:45] petan: "symbols"? do id_rsa.pub files typically have stuff other than ASCII in them? :-) [15:01:48] As I said, I copied the entire text from the public key and pasted it into the textbox [15:02:00] sumanah yes [15:02:35] really?! mine is entirely in ASCII [15:04:12] I see that puttygen saves the public key in a different format than it displays it on the screen, so I tried copying and pasting the saved version; [[Special:NovaKey]] now says "The format of the SSH key has been automatically converted. Failed to import keypair." [15:04:48] blargh. [15:12:19] sumanah: FWIW, I was able to upload exactly the same publickey to gerrit without any problems [15:12:34] Sorry russblau I don't know what to tell you! [15:12:59] russblau: I suggest you email labs-l .... Ryan_Lane won't be available to help for a few hours, I think, but he does respond quickly to labs-l posts [15:13:58] !log wikidata-dev wikidata-dev-9 turned off memcached on repo and client again... [15:14:41] hey, bottibot! [15:14:56] Silke_WMDE there is no logbot [15:14:59] morebots [15:15:00] ok [15:15:01] :/ [15:15:05] dunno why [15:15:44] sumanah depends what you consider ASCII - I meant symbols like = petrb@i-0000005a [15:15:54] that all should be there [15:16:07] well, it may not need to be [15:16:08] petan: I am counting everything that's in the ASCII standard. [15:16:20] ok I consider = a symbol :) [15:16:39] ok! I should have been clearer :) [15:17:58] !mail | russblau [15:17:58] russblau: we have a mailing list labs-l@lists.wikimedia.org feel free to send a message there, don't forget to subscribe [15:18:05] that's the mailing list [15:18:44] this seems to be a bug in Ryan's extension [15:18:52] otherwise gerrit wouldn't like it as well [15:23:01] Hi guys! [15:23:23] What happened to the bots-3 instance? I has been down for about five days. [15:24:06] sumanah, petan: Thanks for trying. I've posted to labs-l [15:24:12] thanks russblau [15:24:14] Damianz, any idea? [15:24:23] dschwen it has been rebooted [15:24:30] because it OOM crashed [15:24:33] i cannot log in [15:24:39] let me check [15:24:43] maybe it's OOM again [15:24:46] and my bot on it hasn't been run in 5 days [15:24:52] in fact I would recommend you to use some other instance [15:25:00] bots-3 is loaded [15:25:19] Ok, no prob, but I need to ogin and clear my crontab [15:25:29] I've been using bots-3 for months now [15:25:44] sure but I can't login either, it seems that it's overloaded [15:25:46] so 3 is loaded, 1 is a crap install that should not be used [15:25:53] so ssh daemon doesn't respond quickly [15:25:58] can I use 2? [15:26:18] dschwen I recommend you either -4 in case you need root or bots-nr1 in case you don't [15:26:25] -2 is loaded as well [15:26:35] there is overview [15:26:37] !botsdocs [15:26:37] https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nova_Resource:Bots/Documentation [15:26:41] here [15:26:41] oooookay [15:27:11] if you type this you will see all current instances we have :P [15:27:16] @labs-resolve bots [15:27:16] I don't know this instance - aren't you are looking for: I-0000009c (bots-2), I-0000009e (bots-cb), I-000000a9 (bots-1), I-000000af (bots-sql2), I-000000b4 (bots-sql3), I-000000b5 (bots-sql1), I-000000e5 (bots-3), I-000000e8 (bots-4), I-0000015e (bots-labs), I-00000190 (bots-dev), [15:28:05] dschwen bots-4 should be OK if not I can create bots-5 [15:29:46] I don't necessarily need root. My project dir is set up and the bot does not need it [15:29:50] !log bots petrb: restarted adminbot on -labs [15:29:52] Logged the message, Master [15:30:12] dschwen ok then bots-nr1 is likely most stable instance we have :P [15:30:20] because almost no one has root there no one can break it [15:30:33] heh [15:30:33] I still need to clean my crontab on bots-3 [15:30:46] sure, I am checking what's wrong [15:31:00] !log bots petrb: rebooting bots-3 which died for some reason [15:31:01] Logged the message, Master [15:31:31] hmmmrg [15:31:34] I am pretty sure it was OOm again [15:31:38] Damianz [15:31:40] ?? [15:31:46] ? [15:31:52] why hmmmmmremrgrg [15:32:15] was it like hmmgrrrrr or more like mhmmmmm [15:32:18] Wondering why graylog2 hasn't flushed to elasticsaerch and has 888973 items in the queue [15:33:08] btw Damianz is it possible to resize PE size of VG? I believe it is but some other people believe it's not [15:33:09] :D [15:33:25] actually I did it on my own box just to test if it's possible [15:33:39] though I was successfull only changing it to 4M then 8M and back to 4M [15:33:42] online [15:33:53] depends [15:34:03] on HP-UX they say it's not possible [15:34:05] on debian it works [15:34:05] yes - if it's not actually allocted on disk and you're using ext* [15:34:17] though if you use weird filesystems that supports that, sure [15:34:30] I am using btrfs on my own pc it's allocated on disk and mounted as / [15:34:36] and I am still able to online resize it [15:34:44] sounds like sci-fi but I can do that [15:35:00] Tbh, I don't trust the filesystem enough to do it online, ever [15:35:20] I know with ext3 it's fussy because it has to de-journal its self then add the journal back effectivly [15:35:42] I am resizing PE not FS [15:35:51] physical extents [15:36:12] yeah but that's pointless without resizing the fs ontop [15:36:17] of course [15:36:27] but I was wondering if it's even technically possible [15:36:33] HP-UX people say it's not [15:36:35] also - if you downsize to smaller than the fs ontop you break it [15:36:43] pretty sure it is possible though [15:36:45] linux people say something weird [15:37:16] Damianz I resized to bigger, then to smaller and I didn't break anything :D [15:37:27] Linux is pretty insane - like you can inspect a running vms image file.... useful for getting version info/doing file scans as the host. [15:37:30] but btrfs support online shrink [15:38:44] I wonder if I disable fsync how much faster this caching server will go... seems to block the process for a sync far too often :( [15:39:15] Is the webtools project up and running now? [15:39:22] I am still thinking of buying like 100gb of ram and booting from huge ramdisk... [15:39:32] physical drives suck [15:39:39] heh [15:39:44] I like the ssd in my laptop [15:39:49] ssd is slow too [15:39:51] :D [15:39:56] ramdisk ftw [15:39:59] But for servers doing in memory caching syncing to disk is a huge performance killer [15:40:06] yup [15:40:30] Actually - all our virtual nodes boot off the network and have no local disks because they're slow. [15:41:03] RECOVERY Total processes is now: OK on bots-3.pmtpa.wmflabs 10.4.0.59 output: PROCS OK: 95 processes [15:41:03] RECOVERY Current Users is now: OK on bots-3.pmtpa.wmflabs 10.4.0.59 output: USERS OK - 0 users currently logged in [15:42:13] any admin here that can make me a member of the webtools project? [15:42:33] RECOVERY SSH is now: OK on bots-3.pmtpa.wmflabs 10.4.0.59 output: SSH OK - OpenSSH_5.3p1 Debian-3ubuntu7 (protocol 2.0) [15:42:38] I have a webtool currently running on the tollserver, which I would like to port over [15:42:54] RECOVERY Free ram is now: OK on bots-3.pmtpa.wmflabs 10.4.0.59 output: OK: 1415% free memory [15:43:13] RECOVERY Current Load is now: OK on bots-3.pmtpa.wmflabs 10.4.0.59 output: OK - load average: 0.01, 0.03, 0.01 [15:43:23] RECOVERY dpkg-check is now: OK on bots-3.pmtpa.wmflabs 10.4.0.59 output: All packages OK [15:43:27] it is an IIP viewer for large images on commons (in use a lot and needs lots of storage to cache to multiresolution pyramids) [15:43:33] RECOVERY Disk Space is now: OK on bots-3.pmtpa.wmflabs 10.4.0.59 output: DISK OK [15:43:46] the conversion process spikes the load on the toolserver too much [15:44:00] bots-3 is back [15:44:05] it would be a good candidate for an independent instance within webtools [15:44:10] thanks petan [15:47:58] yes it died on OOM [15:49:49] Damianz 1415%? [15:49:53] that ram check is borked [15:50:01] I know [15:50:07] you know why? [15:50:10] nope [15:50:13] meh [15:50:14] I didn't write that one [15:50:19] why we don't use the former one [15:50:20] Not had time to fix it [15:50:27] Because it got deleted [15:50:31] o.o [15:50:37] it was in puppet [15:50:45] Yeah [15:50:48] can instances be moved between projects? [15:50:52] But when someone tried to merge diverged branches [15:50:55] It lost loads of stuff [15:51:00] dschwen in theory yes [15:51:02] So that version is from the prod branch of puppet [15:51:05] But it's broken [15:51:07] dschwen no interface for it so far [15:51:17] then screw the webtools project [15:51:27] I'm creating an instance in my own project [15:51:40] webtools has been stilborn for the past 3 months [15:52:04] an understandable choice [15:52:12] @labs-project-info webtools [15:52:12] The project Webtools has 1 instances and 5 members, description: A project for providing web-based tools to help Wikimedia projects. Tool authors can get access to this project to host their tools. (Note: This is somewhat similar to the original Toolserver) [15:52:47] ok this project need someone to make it live [15:53:23] I was hoping Platonides would be that person [15:53:30] As our company values poster says 'take ownership' tl;dr 'feel free to drive it' [15:53:32] but he has been missing for a little while (I emailed him recently) [15:53:43] this is frustrating as I contacted platonides the day after to project was created [15:53:50] asking to be added and offering help [15:53:53] is giftpflanze interested in taking the driver's seat on the webtools project? [15:54:13] dschwen: did he simply neglect to respond to you? [15:54:25] dschwen: That is frustrating and disappointing [15:54:47] he responed but never added me. He basically just said that he needs time to design it right [15:54:55] how long ago was that? [15:55:05] and would you mind fwding me that mail? sumanah at wikimedia [15:55:09] few days ago someone asked random op to be added to project and they did it [15:55:20] so I don't think it's restricted in any way [15:55:21] happened on IRC [15:55:24] yes [15:55:28] if you have logs that'd be great [15:55:35]