[02:53:49] <AMadman>	 bots-2 may need to be drop kicked; I suspect it has a problem with shared storage.
[02:53:52] <AMadman>	 madman@bastion1:~$ ssh -A bots-2 Permission denied (publickey).
[03:02:28] <andrewbogott>	 Ryan_Lane, are you by your laptop by chance?
[03:26:21] <jeremyb_>	 AMadman: do you want to have an OTRS meeting sometime tomorrow?
[03:26:27] <jeremyb_>	 AMadman: what's your TZ?
[03:27:16] <AMadman>	 Mmm. I'd like to, but I'm going to be on a bus so whether I can will depend on whether the bus has working wi-fi. :)
[03:27:31] <AMadman>	 Also, EST.
[03:28:15] <jeremyb_>	 ok
[03:28:26] <jeremyb_>	 you're not coming to the NYC conf by chance? :)
[03:28:32] <jeremyb_>	 (as a possible reason to be on a bus)
[03:28:43] <AMadman>	 No. Is there a NYC conf? :o
[03:28:59] <jeremyb_>	 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:MEET/NYC
[03:29:21] <AMadman>	 Oh. I would say I wish I'd known that, but I'd still be headed in the opposite direction; going to a wedding. :(
[03:29:34] <jeremyb_>	 mazel tov!
[03:30:07] <jeremyb_>	 where are you based? (note, channel is logged in case you don't want that logged)
[03:30:17] <AMadman>	 DC metro area
[03:30:23] <jeremyb_>	 aha
[03:31:02] <jeremyb_>	 maybe see you on March 9th if I show up. (DC's annual meeting followed by social dinner. both parts are optional)
[03:31:21] <jeremyb_>	 some people only show for one half
[03:32:19] <AMadman>	 If I go, I'd probably go to both. I've been terrible about going to meetings and meetups. I'm either overworking myself or hiding under my desk because I'm such an introvert.
[03:32:44] <AMadman>	 I did drag myself out to Wikimania though and had a lot of fun. :)
[03:35:10] <AMadman>	 In any case, I'll be headed back Sunday afternoon/evening. Maybe something next week?
[03:37:12] <jeremyb_>	 AMadman: just poke me. today was pretty busy or i would have been more responsive. but also i'm not on wikimedia-l
[03:37:19] <jeremyb_>	 i should go read archives
[03:37:47] <AMadman>	 I should too; I only subscribed recently.
[03:51:00] <jeremyb_>	 AMadman: oh, wow, i somehow missed this before. you have prior experience with OTRS!!!
[03:51:12] <jeremyb_>	 (/me is reading archives!)
[03:51:32] <AMadman>	 Yeah. Used to use it as my ticketing system for applications I hosted.
[03:51:45] <jeremyb_>	 what did you switch to?
[03:52:19] <jeremyb_>	 how much volume did you have?
[03:52:32] <AMadman>	 I didn't; I did less hosting once I moved up to the DC area and took the job I have
[03:52:34] <AMadman>	 now.
[03:52:48] <AMadman>	 The last application went on hiatus about this time last year (though it may come back this summer).
[03:52:52] <jeremyb_>	 domas has more than once complained about the inefficiences in how OTRS stores data
[03:53:11] <jeremyb_>	 (in particular that it's without any compression)
[03:53:52] <AMadman>	 It depended. Could go a few days with no tickets at all or just the occasional request, or it could be hundreds an hour (when I was hosting a book sale for a K-12 school).
[03:54:52] <AMadman>	 I'm sure at its peak it wasn't even the same order of magnitude as the size of the database we're talking about.
[03:54:57] <jeremyb_>	 heh
[03:55:00] <jeremyb_>	 yeah
[03:55:07] <jeremyb_>	 we're talking ~220GB i think
[03:55:18] <jeremyb_>	 on-disk footprint
[03:55:37] <AMadman>	 I just worked in a small partnership reselling domain name registrations and doing our own Web hosting.
[03:56:10] <AMadman>	 Hm. Could be worse.
[03:56:44] <AMadman>	 MySQL backend, I assume?
[03:56:59] <jeremyb_>	 yes. all innodb now. was partly myisam before
[03:57:04] <AMadman>	 Thank God. :p
[03:57:10] <AMadman>	 No clustering or replication?
[03:57:34] <jeremyb_>	 yes, 1 slave and 1 master. all traffic hits only the master
[03:57:41] <jeremyb_>	 except i guess for mchenry?
[03:59:13] <jeremyb_>	 oh, wait, no, it's changed since then
[03:59:19] <jeremyb_>	 it was originally db9/db10
[03:59:22] <jeremyb_>	 db9 was master
[03:59:28] <jeremyb_>	 but that was shared with some fundraising stuff
[03:59:48] <jeremyb_>	 then it moved. let me check what the latest i have is. which is itself from july
[05:11:29] * jeremyb_  has finished reading the big OTRS thread now

[05:11:51] <jeremyb_>	 AMadman: good night, let's talk in a couple days
[05:11:58] <AMadman>	 Sounds good. :)
[09:07:54] <jeremyb_>	 andre__: madman and I are both busyish for a few days. we talked some already and will reconvene sunday or monday
[09:08:26] <jeremyb_>	 and as of 5ish hours ago i read through the wikimedia-l thread in the pipermail archive
[09:09:20] <jeremyb_>	 (nothing terribly enlightening in the thread. but it got me to reread something i had already read elsewhere but i guess not so carefully the first time and learned a little bit)
[09:09:58] <jeremyb_>	 also, http://i.imgur.com/99c0VRx.jpg
[09:12:39] <andre__>	 :D
[16:55:02] <Damianz>	 hashar: poke
[17:02:38] <hashar>	 Damianz: need to rush something 
[17:02:51] <hashar>	 then out for family gathering
[17:02:55] <hashar>	 and plane to SF :-D
[17:03:10] <hashar>	 Damianz: but mail will be fine :-]
[17:04:20] <Damianz>	 Ah.. np, just wanted to pick your brains about zuul/jenkins stuff since I'm gonna have a play with it tonight, I might catch you later when I get stuck :D Think it's mostly in gerrit so I should get a good idea to start
[17:07:17] <hashar>	 Damianz: I got some doc on mw.org
[17:07:35] <Damianz>	 :D
[17:07:43] <hashar>	 zuul doc is at http://ci.openstack.org/zuul/index.html
[17:07:49] <hashar>	 (upstream doc)
[17:08:17] <hashar>	 Jenkis job builder upstream doc http://ci.openstack.org/jenkins-job-builder/configuration.html
[17:08:21] <hashar>	 my doc https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Continuous_integration/Jenkins_job_builder
[17:08:23] <hashar>	 :D
[17:08:34] <hashar>	 running jenkins job builder can/will kill our jenkins job :-]
[17:08:41] <hashar>	 jobs
[17:21:59] <saper>	 hashar: I don't know why, as I get older I get subpages less and less useful
[17:25:56] <hashar>	 saper: I like subpages :-]
[17:26:11] <hashar>	 let me list all the pages on the portal with {{Special:PrefixIndex/Continuous_integration}}
[17:26:11] <hashar>	    https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Continuous_integration#Documents
[17:26:17] <hashar>	 anyway I am off for now
[17:26:34] <hashar>	 Damianz: I get mail notifications of any thing changed under integration/zuul-config and jenkins-job-builder-config
[17:26:39] <hashar>	 Damianz: do mail if you have any questions
[17:26:45] <hashar>	 will happily answer on monday
[17:26:47] <hashar>	 for now,
[17:26:51] <hashar>	 worth weekend ever ahead
[17:26:53] * hashar  waves

[17:27:20] <Damianz>	 Awesome, have fun!
[17:28:08] <hashar>	 a lonnng travel weekend ahead :-]
[17:28:12] <hashar>	 bye
[20:04:36] <Wikinaut>	 Ryan_Lane: just read your mail re. OpenID. ok.
[20:05:07] <Wikinaut>	 updated openid-wiki and openid-wiki2 with recent core (including your "Userpage 200" fix
[20:05:15] <Wikinaut>	 )
[20:06:27] <Ryan_Lane>	 cool
[20:08:00] <Wikinaut>	 This is already "cool" for you ? Uh
[20:08:05] <Wikinaut>	 #;-)
[20:08:10] <Wikinaut>	 ;-)
[20:09:14] <Wikinaut>	 I mean, I always upgrade core code on my wikis, but in this case it offers immediately the wanted different feature
[20:09:43] <Wikinaut>	 he, shall I delete this other instance (Etherpad) which you created very long time ago?
[20:09:52] <Wikinaut>	 I don't need it now
[20:10:50] <Wikinaut>	 I mean https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nova_Resource:I-000002de
[20:11:42] <Wikinaut>	 I don't need it. And it can be deleted, as I can recreate if it is really needed... (too much words)
[20:12:54] <Wikinaut>	 Successful verification and log in as user Admin.
[20:12:55] <Wikinaut>	 Your OpenID is https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Wikinaut . 
[20:12:57] <Wikinaut>	 :-)
[20:13:49] <Wikinaut>	 Ryan_Lane: http://openid-wiki.instance-proxy.wmflabs.org/wiki/Main_Page runs also the NEW E.RSS 2.18
[20:13:52] <Wikinaut>	 pls. have a look
[20:22:18] * Damianz  five highs Wikinaut

[20:22:43] <Wikinaut>	 Danke merci bedankt thank you
[20:44:58] <Wikinaut>	 Ryan_Lane: there a questions on the wikitech-l
[21:58:57] <Wikinaut>	 Ryan_Lane: on https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:SpecialPages I cannot see the OpenID Dashboard, have you customised the permissions ?
[21:59:06] <Ryan_Lane>	 I have not
[21:59:20] <Ryan_Lane>	 I thought the dashboard was limited to admins?
[22:18:57] <Wikinaut>	 ah, moment
[22:19:12] <Wikinaut>	 (checking the default settings)
[22:20:16] <Wikinaut>	 ok
[22:20:19] <Wikinaut>	 we have this
[22:20:22] <Wikinaut>	 # uncomment to allow users to read access the dashboard
[22:20:25] <Wikinaut>	 # $wgGroupPermissions['user']['openid-dashboard-access'] = true;
[22:21:16] <Wikinaut>	 Are you admin to Labsconsole, in this case you will have access to Special:OpenIDDashboard
[22:21:25] <Wikinaut>	 other (currently) not
[22:21:50] <Wikinaut>	 because there are _curently_ no active "switches"...
[22:22:05] <Wikinaut>	 you could - at least for a test - 
[22:22:31] <Wikinaut>	 $wgGroupPermissions['user']['openid-dashboard-access'] = true; // uncomment the line 307 in OpenID.php
[22:23:25] <Wikinaut>	 should made this https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:OpenIDDashboard readible
[22:23:36] <Wikinaut>	 not only for admins, but for users
[22:23:42] <Wikinaut>	 for a test , please
[22:40:38] <Wikinaut>	 Ryan_Lane: ^