[05:53:14] <petan>	 Coren yes, any of those processes could
[05:53:22] <petan>	 but I don't believe ALL of them would
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[09:47:21] <addshore>	 petan: I think I may do some speed comparison tests between toolserver and labs
[09:47:21] * addshore  goes to make some fancy script

[10:03:07] <addshore>	 @resolve bots
[10:03:14] <addshore>	 !resolve tools
[10:03:17] <addshore>	 ..
[10:07:52] <addshore>	 looks like doing basic cpu tasks toolslabs takes 30% less time than toolserver :O
[10:10:54] <addshore>	 nightshade is slower than willow by a bit
[12:43:16] <valhallasw>	 Coren / petan / andrewbogott_afk: could any one of you add me to the tools project? Thanks.
[12:45:16] <valhallasw>	 oh, my labs user name is 'Merlijn van Deen'
[12:45:25] <valhallasw>	 https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Merlijn_van_Deen
[13:15:19] <Coren>	 valhallasw: {{done}}
[13:28:09] <valhallasw>	 Coren: thanks!
[14:09:54] <scfc_de>	 Re Kolossos' mail on labs-l, where is the current MySQL database stored physically?  Already on the NFS server, still on gluster, locally on the instance?
[14:25:29] <scfc_de>	 Coren, petan: ^
[15:04:13] <Coren>	 scfc_de: On tools, the DB is running on an instance, on instance-local storage.  It sucks, but it's a temporary measure since the "real" DB is incoming.
[15:04:53] <Coren>	 scfc_de: Although, honestly, I'm a little baffled by his resulst since he says that running the query manually is fast.
[15:05:53] <scfc_de>	 Coren: Will you explain that on labs-l?
[15:06:09] <Coren>	 Doing so now.
[15:06:36] <scfc_de>	 K
[15:07:59] <scfc_de>	 Coren: Another thing: Is the "bug" with "sudo chown ..." already tracked in Bugzilla?
[15:08:47] <Coren>	 No.  Worth opening one, if only so I can point at it and tell Ryan "I told you so" so I can convince him to enable take which is 1.7 gazillion times better.  :-)
[15:10:55] <scfc_de>	 Wilco.
[15:19:22] <wm-bot>	 [bz] (NEW - created by: Tim Landscheidt, priority: Unprioritized - normal) [Bug 48105] "sudo chown ..." asks for password which doesn't exist - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48105
[17:42:08] <addshore>	 Coren: any idea about the ip range for tools/bots/labs instances?
[18:04:00] <petan>	 @notify binasher
[18:04:00] <wm-bot>	 I will notify you, when I see binasher around here
[18:26:44] <petan>	 @notify Ryan_Lane
[18:26:44] <wm-bot>	 I will notify you, when I see Ryan_Lane around here
[18:32:26] <andrewbogott>	 petan, anything I can help with?
[18:32:35] <petan>	 andrewbogott, yes
[18:32:39] <petan>	 why is gluster read only?
[18:32:41] <petan>	 on bastion
[18:32:51] <petan>	 bastion3 has read only /hom
[18:32:56] <petan>	 /home
[18:32:59] <petan>	 :o
[18:33:17] <andrewbogott>	 I just checked on bastion-restricted and it's working right.  However, a different one of my projects had things mounted read only, so I'm poking at that.
[18:33:28] <petan>	 ok can you check bastion3
[18:33:37] <andrewbogott>	 Sure.
[18:33:39] <petan>	 I don't have access to bastion-restricted
[18:35:49] <andrewbogott>	 In theory the read-only switch is a good thing; it's what happens now instead of split brain.
[18:35:59] <andrewbogott>	 But it should be able to switch back gracefully and often doesn't :(
[18:37:09] <petan>	 it's read only like a week
[18:37:18] <petan>	 and now it's really annoying, I need to use /tmp to save stuff
[18:39:55] <andrewbogott>	 Oh!  It should be that way for more than a few minutes :)
[18:40:00] <andrewbogott>	 shouldn't
[18:40:45] <andrewbogott>	 ok, I fixed the problem in mwreview-home, now let's see if I can do it for bastion
[18:41:48] <andrewbogott>	 bah!
[18:41:55] <andrewbogott>	 petan, looks like it's just you and me on bastion3; mind if I reboot it?
[18:42:03] <petan>	 sure ok
[18:43:44] <andrewbogott>	 Well, silly that that took a reboot, but it seems to be working now.
[18:43:46] <andrewbogott>	 OK on your end?
[18:50:47] <andrewbogott>	 petan, fixed?
[18:50:55] <petan>	 yes
[19:02:46] <White_Master>	 Hi, any can help me?
[19:04:17] <scfc_de>	 White_Master: That depends :-).  What's your problem?
[19:06:04] <White_Master>	 Not exactly a problem. Some days I joined wikitechwiki.
[19:06:27] <White_Master>	 I've seen the project, however do not know how to join them.
[19:06:51] <White_Master>	 Even if I know that I joined the bastion project.
[19:07:34] <White_Master>	 You know how to ask for admission to another project?
[19:09:34] <petan>	 Coren can you finally merge these commits I sent? I need to update them
[19:10:25] <scfc_de>	 White_Master: On the project pages (for example https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nova_Resource:Tools), at the right top there is a field "Admins: [Expand]".  That should list the admins of that project who you can then contact.
[19:11:44] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Petrb; "inserted toolwatcher to git" [labs/toollabs] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/62348
[19:12:17] <White_Master>	 For this project? https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nova_Resource:Wikivoyage
[19:12:58] <petan>	 @labs-project-members Wikivoyage
[19:12:58] <scfc_de>	 White_Master: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Rogerhc -> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Rogerhc
[19:13:06] <petan>	 @labs-project-users Wikivoyage
[19:13:06] <wm-bot>	 Following users are in this project (showing all 3 members): Novaadmin, Rogerhc, Thehelpfulone, 
[19:13:14] <petan>	 White_Master you need to ask Thehelpfulone
[19:13:23] <petan>	 or roherhc
[19:13:56] <Thehelpfulone>	 White_Master, I don't think anything has been set up properly for that project yet, are you looking for something in particularl?
[19:13:59] <Thehelpfulone>	 particular*
[19:14:42] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Petrb; "some more tools to git" [labs/toollabs] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/62349
[19:14:54] <petan>	 Coren Coren Coren
[19:15:07] <petan>	 I need teh +2 damn
[19:15:21] <petan>	 this bureaucracy slows the progress
[19:15:58] <White_Master>	 I've been working on eswikivoyage from the beginning, and as I saw the project I would like to know how much is done in the.
[19:16:10] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Petrb; "latest version of rmtool" [labs/toollabs] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/62350
[19:16:32] <White_Master>	 Thehelpfulone ^
[19:17:17] <White_Master>	 And in that way might help.
[19:19:55] <Thehelpfulone>	 White_Master, okay, essentially it's a project with one instance in it I think that can't be accessed publicly because it doesn't have a public IP yet (from what I recall) I'm happy to add you to it though, I think it was originally requested to be able to set up a wiki to test extensions before they were deployed on wikivoyage
[19:21:04] <scfc_de>	 petan: Don't you think it would be better if you squash bug fixes into the commit *before* Coren reviews them? :-)
[19:21:23] <scfc_de>	 Thehelpfulone: You're aware of *.instance-proxy.wmflabs.org?
[19:21:31] <Thehelpfulone>	 yeah it didn't seem to work scfc_de 
[19:22:33] <petan>	 scfc_de that is not a way how I like to do that - each fix deserves own commit IMHO so that we can track the progress and eventually revert bad fixes
[19:22:51] <petan>	 you don't make a whole software in 1 commit
[19:22:54] <Thehelpfulone>	 scfc_de, so the instance name is voy-en but  voy-en.instance-proxy.wmflabs.org redirected to http://voy-en.pmtpa.wmflabs/wiki/Main_Page whereas I think Roger wanted a public IP
[19:25:08] <scfc_de>	 Thehelpfulone: I *believe* that the host name (or server URL?  Don't know what it's called.) in the MediaWiki config needs to be changed to voy-en.instance-proxy.wmflabs.org.  Could you try that?
[19:26:13] <scfc_de>	 petan: Well, if your first commit has a bug in it by your own admission, it should never be merged, should it? :-)
[19:26:52] <petan>	 scfc_de why not? :P no bugs = no fun
[19:27:08] <petan>	 look, squashing commits is a step back
[19:27:26] <petan>	 versioning software exist so that you can track the versions of your software, see all change you have done
[19:27:39] <petan>	 you could squash all commits into 1 and make whole app in 1 commit
[19:27:59] <petan>	 because basically everything that was commited before last commit was somewhat incomplete
[19:28:11] <petan>	 people who are squashing commits should be sent to siberia
[19:28:41] <Thehelpfulone>	 scfc_de, I can try, do you know where I should be looking for that though?
[19:29:03] <petan>	 I just like to see where the bugs were made in history so that people don't repeat the same mistaky
[19:29:18] <petan>	 and I want to see how we fixed them in history
[19:30:46] <Thehelpfulone>	 scfc_de, I can give you access to do it yourself if that'd work - what's your username? (or petan you probably know)
[19:31:00] <scfc_de>	 petan: I think people knowingly merging commits that *contain* *bugs* should be sent to the moon :-).
[19:31:13] <petan>	 scfc_de moon is a nice place
[19:31:31] <scfc_de>	 Thehelpfulone: I don't see any mention of it in LocalSettings.php.  Hmmm.
[19:31:44] <scfc_de>	 petan: I prefer oxygen.
[19:31:53] <Thehelpfulone>	 when I configure the instance there are a couple of options for dns
[19:31:57] <petan>	 you can take it with you :P
[19:32:05] <Thehelpfulone>	 dns_auth_ipaddress	 and dns_auth_soa_name
[19:32:12] <Thehelpfulone>	 and a checkbox for 	
[19:32:12] <Thehelpfulone>	  dns::auth-server-ldap [?]
[19:32:35] <Thehelpfulone>	 but it's already in base, ldap::client::wmf-test-cluster, exim::simple-mail-sender, sudo::labs_project, role::mediawiki-install::labs
[19:33:13] <scfc_de>	 Thehelpfulone: No, I think it needs to be set in the httpd and MediaWiki config.  Hmmm.  Does the puppetized MediaWiki install have an option for it?
[19:33:34] <scfc_de>	 Thehelpfulone: Probably much easier to solve this tomorrow when more staff is here.
[19:33:55] <Thehelpfulone>	 yeah I can wait, but what's your username scfc_de? I'll give you access so you can poke around too if you like
[19:35:20] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Tim Landscheidt; "Bug fix I51bfe57e5619ddfc6307d01ff2ab0119e10b35c4 needs to be integrated." [labs/toollabs] (master) C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/62236
[19:35:43] <scfc_de>	 Thehelpfulone: scfc/Tim Landscheidt.
[19:38:21] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Tim Landscheidt; "Add script "become"." [labs/toollabs] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/62349
[19:39:00] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Tim Landscheidt; "Add script "toolwatcher"." [labs/toollabs] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/62348
[19:51:14] <Thehelpfulone>	 thanks scfc_de, added
[19:51:22] <Thehelpfulone>	 the bot used to report that, but I don't know if that changed
[20:07:26] <scfc_de>	 Thehelpfulone: Yeah, I remember that.  I'll look into the instance-proxy issue tomorrow.
[20:28:30] <petan>	 Thehelpfulone which bot
[20:28:33] <petan>	 ??
[20:39:22] <andrewbogott>	 Coren, working today?
[20:53:22] <Thehelpfulone>	 petan, I can't remember the name, labs something maybe? it used to report when people were added to projects
[20:53:38] <petan>	 that is gone a long time
[20:54:04] <petan>	 @seenrx home-wm
[20:54:04] <wm-bot>	 petan: Last time I saw labs-home-wm they were quitting the network with reason: Remote host closed the connection at 1/8/2013 1:32:42 AM (117.19:21:21.8486670 ago) (multiple results were found: labs-home-wm_)
[20:54:12] <petan>	 117 days
[21:01:49] <petan>	 addshore you should create a service group for ur bot
[21:02:14] <petan>	 Damianz ping
[21:04:45] * Damianz  pokes petan's nose

[21:05:00] <petan>	 Damianz do u plan to move cluebot to grid
[21:05:09] <Damianz>	 no
[21:05:09] <petan>	 meh :D
[21:05:45] <Damianz>	 Core requires libs a lot higher than in repos and it's complex, so for now can stay still