[02:33:55] [bz] (8ASSIGNED - created by: 2Legoktm, priority: 4Unprioritized - 6normal) [Bug 49088] archive table not accessible - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49088 [02:34:04] ooh [02:37:17] [bz] (8RESOLVED - created by: 2Tim Landscheidt, priority: 4Unprioritized - 6normal) [Bug 49069] Grant read privileges to all users on databases that end with "_p" - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49069 [02:38:26] [bz] (8RESOLVED - created by: 2Legoktm, priority: 4Unprioritized - 6normal) [Bug 49046] Table 'wikidatawiki_p.recentchanges' doesn't exist - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49046 [03:17:58] Coren: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49069 should be "FIXED" right since the original premise of the bug is fixed? [03:24:14] Ryan_Lane: How's your allowance of public IPs? Mind forking one over to the multimedia project for an alpha instance so we can show off? [03:24:48] I'm tryin' to get the bloody proxy thing to work but it appears to be ineffective with my setup and I doubt various commonists will have better luck [03:28:49] Ah, sorry, it's late. [06:40:57] [bz] (8NEW - created by: 2Antoine "hashar" Musso, priority: 4Unprioritized - 6normal) [Bug 51068] ganglia.wmflabs.org is missing most projects - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51068 [07:27:25] [bz] (8REOPENED - created by: 2Chris McMahon, priority: 4Unprioritized - 6major) [Bug 50623] Entering AFTv5 feedback causes error - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50623 [08:04:07] !log deployment-prep migrating upload.beta.wmflabs.org from cache-upload03 (lucid/squid) to cache-upload04 (precise/varnish) [08:04:10] Logged the message, Master [08:06:01] !log deployment-prep shutting down deployment-cache-upload03 [08:06:04] Logged the message, Master [08:10:33] [bz] (8ASSIGNED - created by: 2Antoine "hashar" Musso, priority: 4High - 6normal) [Bug 49470] rebuild the upload cache - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49470 [08:10:51] o_O Cache problems :( [08:13:39] Steinsplitter: ? :-) [08:18:08] no. I hav only noticed thet ther ar CacheProblem ;-) [08:19:53] I created a labs account with the username "TTO", but gerrit won't allow me to set my "real name" to "This, that and the other" [08:19:57] is there some reason why this is not possible? [08:22:01] error?^^ [08:24:12] the field "Full name" at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/settings/contact is disabled for me [08:25:15] for me too. o:O [08:25:54] perhaps I should file a bug to get it enabled [08:26:51] i think yes [08:41:46] petan you happen to be around? [08:41:54] no [08:42:01] aw [08:42:42] had you been around I'd ask if somehting like this is hostable by labs? http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump/Proposals#Current_event_needs_photography [08:43:19] tl;dr please [08:43:37] what is it about? some web service or bot [08:44:18] a bot with optin or wathever [08:45:00] yes then [08:45:16] O_O User account "ToAruShiroiNeko" is not registered. [08:45:33] WhiteCat maybe? :o [08:46:01] ah :O [08:46:20] User account "WhiteCat" is not registered. :O:O [08:54:02] petan I dont know that yet [08:54:17] if I were to design it perhaps something that uses google news or twitter api [08:54:35] I dont want to spam peoples talk pages tho [08:55:05] perhaps something that would show up as an alert on en.wikipedias new notification feature [08:55:27] Steinsplitter I am A Certain White Cat [08:55:32] not any ordinary one [08:57:40] !log deployment-prep rebooting -sql instance to make it use NFS as /home [08:57:43] Logged the message, Master [08:58:35] ToAruShiroiNeko ok once you know what is it, I tell you if it can run on labs or not :) [08:58:53] I can't tell you if some yet unknown thing can or nt [09:09:16] I am running http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WM-Bot version wikimedia bot v. 1.10.12.0 my source code is licensed under GPL and located at https://github.com/benapetr/wikimedia-bot I will be very happy if you fix my bugs or implement new features [09:09:18] meh [09:58:21] Coren, ? [10:06:36] Steinsplitter: per my earlier question, seems that (a) Full Name is disabled because LDAP is being used, and (b) this issue is bug 40061 [10:06:49] so I have answered my own question :) [10:06:52] LEGAL APPROVED!! [10:06:56] :D [10:07:07] :-))))))))))))))))))))) [10:07:18] Cyberpower678: this re deleted edits? [10:07:23] Yep. [10:07:56] exciting :) [10:08:12] Bugzilla 49088 [10:27:54] [bz] (8RESOLVED - created by: 2Niklas Laxström, priority: 4High - 6normal) [Bug 49110] Account creation while logged out ends in white page but succeeds - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49110 [10:57:53] [bz] (8NEW - created by: 2Chris McMahon, priority: 4Unprioritized - 6major) [Bug 50622] Special:NewPagesFeed error - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50622 [11:00:18] [bz] (8ASSIGNED - created by: 2Legoktm, priority: 4Unprioritized - 6normal) [Bug 49088] archive table not accessible - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49088 [11:15:23] Cyberpower678: Yes they did. The bad news is that the archive table is (and I quote Asher here) "both one of our largest tables, and one of the old evil tables without a primary or unique key. We need to fix that before bringing the table into the labs environment" which require a production-wide schema change. So it's not going to happen instantly. [11:19:35] Cyberpower678: Anyone received a cloak recently? This is too long. [11:21:56] zhuyifei1999, it takes about a week or 2. [11:24:37] Coren, who cares. I'm just glad you guys can move forward now. [11:24:44] :-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) [11:26:45] :O [11:27:17] an user here wit console access to WMF Server? [11:27:43] Cyberpower678: ok [11:27:58] * Steinsplitter hav a urgent reqest [11:28:33] Coren, what's the projected date? [11:29:20] Coren: I'm the wrong person to ask. Asher would be (check bug 49198) [11:29:25] Steinsplitter: What's up? [11:29:55] see PM [11:34:23] Cyberpower678: I'm the wrong person to ask. Asher would be (check bug 49198) [11:36:44] Cyberpower678: I'm having trouble finding the log, but I remember someone said, "a few days". [11:37:15] zhuyifei1999, it is volunteer driven. [11:37:26] Coren, direct me to asher. [11:37:27] found: [11:37:29] [20:25:12] Cyberpower678: How long shall I have to wait before it is set? [11:37:30] [20:25:27] A few days. [11:38:05] Cyberpower678: binasher on IRC, or the bug I just pointed you to. :-) [11:38:16] zhuyifei1999, or a few weeks. [11:39:11] Coren, both. If it all possible, can you drag him in here. On a leash if you have to. ; [11:39:12] :p [11:39:48] Patience, grasshopper. It may take a while, it's not like our DBAs are twiddling their thumbs for lack of work. :-) [11:40:59] [12:25:12] Cyberpower678: How long shall I have to wait before it is set? [11:40:59] [12:25:27] A few days. [11:41:25] corrected timezone, logged by YiFeiBot on 20130703 [11:41:50] Coren, was that directed at me? [11:42:03] Of course it was. :-) [11:54:35] good morning Coren :-] [11:54:57] would you mind rebooting an instance for me please ? It does not work via the web interface : / [11:55:10] i-000004cb | deployment-sql02.pmtpa.wmflabs [11:55:17] I go check. [11:55:45] I got all deployment-prep /home to be mounted on the NFS server now :-] [11:55:49] that is done in base.pp \O/ [11:55:58] Coren: it rebooted! [11:57:08] now the real issue we are facing is: Creating directory '/home/hashar'. [11:57:08] Unable to create and initialize directory '/home/hashar'. [11:57:24] apergos has a similar issue on the instance that manage ganglia.wmflabs.org [11:58:36] hashar: I'm not seeing the NFS mounts at all. Lemme try to see what that failed. [12:05:27] Cyberpower678: Where's Adminstats for Commons? [12:05:44] On commons. [12:05:49] Why? [12:05:55] hashar: Looking into it. Really odd. [12:06:05] Coren: I wish I could help [12:07:59] Cyberpower678: It's missing a lot of admins, such as Foroa, Leyo, and EugeneZelenko. [12:08:41] Not according to what I'm looking at now. [12:09:37] Non of those are transcluding it in their userspace. [12:09:46] Cyberpower678: What? [12:10:18] Adminstats must be translcuded in the userspace of the user using it. [12:10:56] Loaded module modules/wmib_op.bin [12:11:00] @optools-on [12:11:01] Operator tools have been enabled on this channel [12:11:14] who it was who wanted wm-bot to be able to kick people from channel? :P [12:11:35] hashar: Is there a deployment-prep instance that has a properly working /home atm? [12:11:39] zhuyifei1999, link me to what you are talking about. [12:11:50] @kick petan [12:11:59] :D [12:12:02] :D [12:12:07] yay [12:12:08] Coren: yup deployment-bastion.pmtpa.wmflabs [12:12:10] it seems to work [12:12:14] nice function, :) [12:12:23] @kick someone [12:12:23] Sorry but I don't see this user in a channel [12:12:39] petan: That's horrible [12:12:44] @kick Cyberpower678 [12:12:45] Cyberpower678 use it for trolls only pls [12:12:51] @kick Steinsplitter [12:12:51] Permission denied [12:12:53] :D [12:12:56] @kick wm-bot [12:12:57] Permission denied [12:13:01] for trolls only, no abuse plz [12:13:03] !say @kick wm-bot [12:13:04] @kick wm-bot [12:13:19] *g* [12:13:42] Cyberpower678: For example, no Template:Adminstats/Foroa [12:13:46] petan, doesn't that give me the equivelent of op powers? [12:13:55] Cyberpower678 not really [12:14:02] only ability to kick / ban people [12:14:06] nothing more [12:14:08] hashar: I'm trying to see why it's not working; as far as I can tell you did everything right. [12:14:21] petan, it is restricted to bot admins only right? [12:14:26] yes [12:14:26] Coren: ran apt upgrade, puppet, rebooted [12:14:30] petan, ok. [12:14:37] zhuyifei1999, and? [12:15:01] Why should there be. Foroa doesn't have it transcluded in her userspace. [12:15:08] Coren: most of the instances were preventing ssh login after role::labsnfs got applied, I guess it was a conflict between Gluster and NFS. rebooting fixed them all (but deployment-sql02 ) [12:15:11] Yeah, that should have worked and, as far as I can tell, puppet did it's job correctly. Difference is -sql02 gets "access denied" trying to mount while -bastion is okay, and both are properly listed in the exports. [12:15:24] its* [12:15:25] !cookie petan [12:15:26] no cookie for you [12:15:26] * Helpmebot takes a cookie from the jar, then hands it to petan. [12:15:37] !link commons:Template:Adminstats/Leyo [12:15:38] http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Adminstats/Leyo [12:15:38] https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/commons:Template:Adminstats/Leyo [12:15:59] !link commons:Template:Adminstats/Leyo >Cyberpower678 [12:15:59] https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/commons:Template:Adminstats/Leyo [12:16:00] Cyberpower678: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Adminstats/Leyo [12:16:01] So there is something different is -sql02's config I'm trying to track down. [12:16:34] zhuyifei1999, I still don't see your point. [12:16:59] Cyberpower678: I mean why they're missing? [12:17:39] Because those users haven't transcluded adminstats into their userspace. [12:19:55] Cyberpower678: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wm-bot#.40optools-on [12:19:59] Cyberpower678: oh [12:30:27] hashar: Oy! -sql02 is lucid! [12:30:42] petan: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wm-bot doesn't have @system-lm [12:31:37] @labs-user [12:31:46] Info for labs-user: Display information about user [12:31:57] @labs-user zhuyifei1999 [12:31:57] That user is not a member of any project [12:32:06] @labs-user Zhuyifei1999 [12:32:06] Zhuyifei1999 is member of 2 projects: Bastion, Tools, [12:32:10] Coren: oh my god [12:32:45] hashar: I have no idea if lucid can even be /made/ to work right with NFS4 in this setup; it clearly doesn't by default. [12:33:10] Coren: I think I have another lucid instance [12:33:26] petan: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wm-bot doesn't have @system-lm [12:34:07] Coren: yeah same issue on deployment-sql which is lucid as well damn [12:35:05] I may have found a workaround. [12:35:23] @trusted [12:35:23] petan, cool. [12:35:23] I trust: petan!.*@wikimedia/Petrb (2admin), .*@wikimedia/.* (2trusted), .*@mediawiki/.* (2trusted), .*@wikimedia/Ryan-lane (2admin), .*@wikipedia/.* (2trusted), .*@nightshade.toolserver.org (2trusted), .*@wikimedia/Krinkle (2admin), .*@[Ww]ikimedia/.* (2trusted), .*@wikipedia/Cyberpower678 (2admin), .*@wirenat2\.strw\.leidenuniv\.nl (2trusted), .*@unaffiliated/valhallasw (2trusted), [12:36:10] petan, does that mean you are now going to be less lenient when making people admins? [12:37:09] Cyberpower678 it means we are going to have less troubles with trolls and spammers in here I guess :P [12:37:13] :) [12:37:23] petan! [12:38:40] hm? [12:38:48] petan: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wm-bot doesn't have @system-lm [12:39:52] fixed [12:40:04] hashar: Bleh. Under lucid, you have to specity -tnfs4 explicitly to mount; it doesn't work with the implicit nfs from host:/path; I hope I can find a way to tell autofs that. [12:40:19] petan: and any spammers ever came? [12:40:27] petan, can I totally abuse my powers and kickban everyone? :p [12:40:41] Unknown command type @commands for a list of all commands I know [12:41:20] petan: missing help for @help system-lm [12:42:17] zhuyifei1999 yes spammers come, especially these who are playing with bots when Coren and hashar try to solve real problems :-)) [12:42:55] regarding @help, no I didn't write a help for commands I never thought that would be used by someone else than me [12:44:58] @q Helpmebot [12:45:04] :) [12:45:18] :D [12:45:32] @q test-trollolol [12:45:32] Permission denied [12:45:34] ah D [12:45:36] xD [12:46:12] * Steinsplitter hugs petan [12:46:15] I love [12:46:21] *this bot [12:47:06] Steinsplitter: fyi, I gave myself 'crat on commons betalabs [12:47:08] Steinsplitter: also odder [12:47:24] okay. [12:50:56] @q Helpmebot [12:50:57] hashar: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/72936 should fix it [12:51:14] @unq Helpmebot [12:51:30] Ahh [12:51:43] q petan [12:51:45] :D [12:52:00] J/K [12:52:29] I'll make an announcement that deleted edits will be returning soon. [12:52:43] Coren, weren't you going to direct me to binasher on IRC? [12:53:23] Cyberpower678: "direct" you to him? You know his nick, you can direct yourself to him when he comes on. :-) [12:53:42] @seen binasher [12:53:42] Cyberpower678: Last time I saw binasher they were quitting the network with reason: Quit: binasher N/A at 7/10/2013 12:46:53 AM (12:06:49.1671500 ago) [12:54:20] @notify binasher [12:54:21] I'll let you know when I see binasher around here [12:56:07] @notify ashley [12:56:08] This user is now online in #wikimedia-dev. I'll let you know when they show some activity (talk, etc.) [12:57:59] !ping [12:57:59] pong [12:57:59] pong [12:59:51] petan: Why can't I receive anything? [13:04:25] ok, recovered at 13:02:33 [13:08:04] [bz] (8NEW - created by: 2denny vrandecic, priority: 4Unprioritized - 6normal) [Bug 51107] set up public test repo with Wikivoyage links section - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51107 [13:10:44] Cyberpower678: One thing I note about your edit counter opt-in RFC, a lot of the "keep opt-in" voters who provided a rationale seem to be confusing yours with wikichecker.com. [13:11:28] I see. I'm actively monitoring that page. [13:11:51] I'm not sure why though. X!'s edit counter, opt-in, etc... [13:12:07] Non of that is on Wikichecker and Wikichecker isn't a global tool. [13:12:51] But I'm likely to close it as keep opt-in anyways and invite individual wikis to launch RfCs to adjust it locally. [13:17:48] zhuyifei1999 receive?? [13:17:53] huh [13:18:41] zhuyifei1999 this was clearly some freenode issue given the lag [13:19:14] petan: receiving now [13:19:31] at 13:17:50 (UTC) [13:19:48] just changed server to holmes [13:20:39] [bz] (8NEW - created by: 2Quim Gil, priority: 4Normal - 6enhancement) [Bug 51050] Connecting wikitech.wikimedia.org user profiles with community metrics - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51050 [13:58:54] petan: cool [13:58:57] ? [13:59:14] freenode is fucked up [13:59:23] if you really need me, you better talk to me @ tm-irc [13:59:31] which is far smaller, thus far more stable :P [13:59:47] (13:57:24) petan!~pidgeon@wikimedia/Petrb has quit [*.net *.split] [13:59:49] (13:58:33) petan2!~pidgeon@109-123-220-094.tvujweb.net just joined the channel [13:59:49] (13:58:43) petan2 changed a nickname to petan [14:05:12] petan: net plit and net split.... Bether we use Jabber *lol* [16:28:04] Ryan_Lane: Question again, would it be possible to send Multimedia a public IP for an alpha instance so we don't need to keep hosting test extensions on toollabs? [16:37:11] marktraceur: yeah [16:39:42] Woot [16:42:07] marktraceur: upped your quota [16:46:22] Thankee [16:46:25] Coren|Breakfast: from the tcl8.6 installation on tools i miss the bundled tdbc and tdbc::mysql packages. are there separate packages to install or is there an option to include it into the existing package? [16:54:41] @seen binasher [16:54:41] Cyberpower678: Last time I saw binasher they were quitting the network with reason: Quit: binasher N/A at 7/10/2013 12:46:53 AM (16:07:47.4969850 ago) [16:55:10] Come on Asher come online already so I can harrass you with questions. :p [17:00:54] Cyberpower678: he probably won't be on this channel [17:01:03] Grrr. [17:01:26] likely wikimedia-operations or wikimedia-tech [17:01:36] Coren|Breakfast: seems aggregator1 instance was configured to use nfs? [17:01:50] Coren|Breakfast: and it doesn't work [17:02:10] what's the necessary mount options to test the mount? [17:03:36] Ryan_Lane: -t nfs4 -o port=0,hard,rsize=8192,wsize=8192,sec=sys [17:03:48] Although rsize and wsize, I think, default at 8k [17:04:42] giftpflanze: I... don't know. Lemme look it up. [17:04:58] * Coren doesn't really know tcl. [17:06:44] [bz] (8ASSIGNED - created by: 2Legoktm, priority: 4Unprioritized - 6normal) [Bug 49088] archive table not accessible - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49088 [17:06:56] hm [17:07:06] I wonder why this instance isn't mounting it [17:09:06] Cyberpower678 @notify binasher [17:09:08] :P [17:09:19] that works for almost all channels [17:09:23] Coren: does this autofs config just not work on lucid? [17:09:36] petan, already done [17:09:44] I dont think so [17:09:53] I had to reboot wm-bot twice because of freenode crashes [17:09:55] * Cyberpower678 promotes petan to binasher [17:10:02] @notify binasher [17:10:02] I'll let you know when I see binasher around here [17:10:09] restart of wm-bot = forget all @notify [17:10:20] Ryan_Lane: Ah! There's a bug relating to 'nfs' not understanding nfs4 by default; I've got a patch in the pipeline for that already that just needs a +2: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/72936/ [17:10:45] Ryan_Lane: Precise's defaults work, but we need to be explicit in lucid. [17:13:14] ah. so this was hashar's problem [17:17:44] [bz] (8NEW - created by: 2Antoine "hashar" Musso, priority: 4Unprioritized - 6normal) [Bug 51068] ganglia.wmflabs.org is missing most projects - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51068 [17:30:20] @labs-project-users freenode [17:30:20] Following users are in this project (showing all 2 members): Novaadmin, Coren, [17:30:28] Coren what is that project for [17:54:14] Coren: so? have you looked up the tcl issue? [17:54:43] Coren is silent [17:54:55] giftpflanze what tcl issue you mean [17:54:55] maybe I can fix? [17:55:38] in the installation of tcl8.6 on tools there should be a tdbc and a tdbc::mysql package, but there isn't [17:56:05] ok [17:56:14] you need it on -dev / -login or exec nodes as well [17:57:02] yes [17:57:47] that was not a yes no question :D [17:57:53] yes [17:58:01] :P [17:58:37] petan: dev and exec will help me too [17:58:52] ok where can I download this tdbc package? [17:59:04] I think it is in the repo's [17:59:10] or sould be [17:59:15] apparently not, or it is not called tdbc [17:59:15] let me grab a look [17:59:36] it should be within tcl8.6 itself [17:59:46] well, it is not... [18:00:04] http://tdbc.tcl.tk/index.cgi/index [18:01:13] petan: tclodbc [18:01:21] ok [18:01:26] hm [18:01:49] !log tools petrb: installing tclodbc on grid [18:01:51] Logged the message, Master [18:01:58] what a naming [18:02:26] that makes sense to me :P [18:02:35] it is odbc library in the end [18:02:40] petan: I guess you know apt-cache search tclbc ? [18:03:12] tclbc? you said tdbc before [18:03:39] oh well, both reavel th package :) [18:03:42] it is installed [18:03:47] *the [18:03:52] petan: also mysql subpackage? [18:04:01] mhm..... [18:04:34] mysqltcl [18:04:37] aha [18:04:39] right [18:04:40] well, no [18:04:44] !log tools petrb: installing mysqltcl on grid [18:04:46] Logged the message, Master [18:05:23] that is all what apt-cache found [18:06:10] tclodbc seems to be a different package [18:06:19] interesting [18:06:28] in that case we dont have the other one [18:06:36] you need to point me to some download link at least [18:06:48] see above [18:07:23] k [18:07:34] this thing needs to be packaged, create a bug and put AzaToth in cc [18:08:38] I can install it on -dev if you want but all other boxes needs to have packaged stuff only becuse of puppet [18:09:53] what is -dev for? [18:10:25] for development [18:10:36] compiling etc [18:10:39] building of packages [18:10:53] it is for all stuff that other boxes are not [18:10:58] :P [18:11:03] !link bugzilla:49189 [18:11:03] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49189 [18:11:03] https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/bugzilla:49189 [18:11:31] so not for developing tools then [18:13:31] petan: how long till bots is moved over to tools? :) [18:13:39] should i open the bug? [18:13:46] * Ryan_Lane wants to recover the disk space used by bots [18:14:53] I wonder if we can move deployment-prep databases away from an instance as well [18:14:58] Coren: ^^ [18:15:14] we're starting to get lowish on local storage disk space [18:17:20] Ryan_Lane: I suppose we can, there's nothing that prevents them from running on the labs db. Alternately, and I've been a proponent of this for a while, we might like to have a physical box for "miscelaneous labs databases" that isn't the labsdb. [18:17:28] yeah [18:17:34] that was the original design [18:17:46] we were supposed to have an extra box for that [18:17:50] Don't we have a misc server we could assign to that? [18:17:58] we have unused old virt boxes [18:18:09] virt1/3/4 [18:18:09] Oh, I note the choice of tense. "We were supposed to" didn't translate to "we do"? :-) [18:18:30] well, it was supposed to be a db class box [18:18:47] the virt boxes are kind of close to db class, though [18:18:55] they have 1.1TB of storage and its SAS [18:19:06] *1.1TB SAS in a raid 10 [18:19:11] more otherwise [18:19:18] but for dbs I have a feeling we want raid10 [18:19:58] Moar bandwidth!!1! [18:20:08] and better iops ;) [18:20:16] Yeah, pure DB likes 10 [18:20:32] it's also good for virtualization, which is why the virt nodes are using raid10 [18:20:37] Labs will archive after Wikimania. Can't wait. [18:20:41] though now that we're running out of disk space, it's painful [18:20:54] * Cyberpower678 sings "I'm so excited" [18:20:55] Ryan_Lane: Offloading the database can't hurt. [18:21:06] yeah [18:21:11] it's about 100G of space [18:21:21] we have some other databases that folks are using too [18:21:28] Cyberpower678: ... "at the earliest". I wouldn't hold by breath before end of august. [18:21:33] Ryan_Lane: Yep; like tools-db [18:21:37] parsoid is eating a few hundred GB I believe, but there's not much we can do about that [18:21:54] Coren: bots-db, tools-db, deployment-prep-db [18:22:02] that's like 300G right there [18:22:03] or so [18:22:05] Coren has now garaunteed that archive will be available at the end of August. :D [18:22:08] Ryan_Lane: we don't really need that memory [18:22:17] it just came with the cores we need [18:22:26] gwicke: talking about the disk usage [18:22:30] ah [18:22:37] memory isn't an issue yet [18:22:39] Ryan_Lane I dont know it may take ages for whole project to move to tools, but it may take few days for most important stuff to move (the heavy stuff) [18:22:51] disk space is becoming a limiting factor, memory will be next [18:22:54] Ryan_Lane there are few instances I was told by andrewbogott not to remove [18:23:06]