[01:47:21] [bz] (8NEW - created by: 2m.p.roppelt, priority: 4Unprioritized - 6normal) [Bug 51212] libgcc_s.so.1 must be installed for pthread_cancel to work - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51212 [02:15:28] i was fired recently (as in terminated from a job). why did the boss ask me if i expected it and why does he and my colleagues still have me on skype? [02:15:59] Ummm. [02:16:20] have you ever been fired t13? [02:16:27] I have. [02:17:14] how did you act at the getting fired meeting/? [02:18:21] I walked out, talked to my friends and family, then found another job. Life goes on. [02:19:13] did they ask you about getting fired at the next interview? did you see it coming? [02:19:38] Nope. Yep. [05:19:10] [bz] (8REOPENED - created by: 2Chris McMahon, priority: 4Unprioritized - 6major) [Bug 50623] Entering AFTv5 feedback causes error - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50623 [05:19:25] [bz] (8NEW - created by: 2Chris McMahon, priority: 4Unprioritized - 6major) [Bug 50622] Special:NewPagesFeed error - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50622 [07:43:20] [bz] (8VERIFIED - created by: 2Antoine "hashar" Musso, priority: 4Unprioritized - 6normal) [Bug 51068] ganglia.wmflabs.org is missing most projects - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51068 [08:32:05] can a db on tools-db be shared between users ? :> [08:32:19] / between tools [09:35:07] addshore: yes [09:35:19] addshore: you need to name it blafvdfs_p [09:35:24] the _p [09:35:25] ahh, okay :> [09:40:47] petan: Why's blafvdfs? [09:41:01] example :P [10:25:14] petan: Finally got my cloak [10:25:56] Where's Cyberpower678? [11:53:12] @seen Cyberpower678 [11:53:12] zhuyifei1999: Last time I saw Cyberpower678 they were quitting the network with reason: Quit: Leaving N/A at 7/12/2013 7:21:39 AM (04:31:32.7196070 ago) [11:53:27] @notify Cyberpower678 [11:53:27] I'll let you know when I see Cyberpower678 around here [12:13:27] Cyberpower678: I got a cloak! [12:13:36] nice [12:13:52] !accesslist [12:13:52] http://helpmebot.org.uk/wiki/Special:AccessList [12:14:15] !access del 254 [12:14:16] Successfully removed access [12:14:16] Access entry removed. [12:15:14] !myaccess zhuyifei1999!~pidgeon@wikimedia/zhuyifei1999 [12:15:15] zhuyifei1999!~pidgeon@wikimedia/zhuyifei1999 has the access level: Advanced [12:15:27] Very good. [12:16:07] Cyberpower678: thanks [12:18:05] Who was 254? [12:18:23] me [12:18:30] Ahh. [12:19:18] If I had known that was what you wanted cp for, I would've done it an hour ago.. :p [12:20:09] Technical_13, I didn't know you were in here. [12:20:33] !myaccess Technical_13!~T13@wikipedia/Technical-13 [12:20:33] Technical_13!~T13@wikipedia/Technical-13 has the access level: Superuser [12:20:52] zhuyifei1999, ^ he's got the same rights as I do. [12:21:02] * Technical_13 rarely actually sleeps [12:21:22] * Cyberpower678 slept for ten hours last night. [12:21:46] Technical_13, 254 zhuyifei1999 % % Advanced 2013-07-03 13:16:31 [12:21:59] * zhuyifei1999 doesn't sleep that long [12:22:22] That was the access entry. He didn't have a cloak yet, so I gave his nick advanced rights. [12:29:20] Cyberpower678: Why's there unaffiliated/petan? [12:29:47] where [12:30:17] 125 [12:33:36] petan, can I deleted that or would you like to keep that? [12:35:42] I was going to ask petan why he isn't superuser myself but kept forgetting.. [12:39:08] what what [12:39:58] petan: why do you only have advanced Helpmebot privileges instead of superuser? [12:40:32] Curious as to you being manually added with an unaffiliated cloak. [12:42:45] Technical_13: why are there two bots again? [12:43:09] Only two? lol [12:45:14] YuviPanda use @kick? :P [12:45:22] @kick Helpmebot [12:45:33] poor bot :( [12:46:18] petan: why kick it? [12:46:27] Guess Helpmebot didn't like that... [12:46:28] zhuyifei1999 I didn't do that :D [12:46:35] YuviPanda did [12:46:46] zhuyifei1999: why have two bots? [12:46:55] does Helpmebot do something that wm-bot does not? [12:46:58] you told him (12:45:16) YuviPanda use @kick? :P [12:47:02] !lick YuviPanda [12:47:02] Helpmebot, comes back automatically. [12:47:03] * Helpmebot licks YuviPanda [12:47:08] it can do this ^ [12:47:14] meh [12:47:18] !smoke YuviPanda [12:47:19] !charge YuviPanda [12:47:20] * Helpmebot is chargin mah lazer, aims and fires at YuviPanda. [12:47:23] that makes it helpful :D [12:47:27] !smoke YuviPanda [12:47:43] mah lazer? [12:47:50] :D [12:47:55] Cyberpower678: !smoke YuviPanda not worjing? [12:48:03] *working [12:48:28] Because it doesn't know the command. [12:48:32] YuviPanda: you going to kick ChanServ, wm-bot, gerrit-wm, labs-morebots, jeremyb, and retsreklawts too? They are all bots... [12:48:52] Technical_13: ChanServ, wm-bot, gerrit-wm, labs-morebots all have different functionalities [12:49:04] Technical_13: and if they overlap I think they should be kicked [12:49:36] Cyberpower678: it was working [12:49:48] What was smoke? [12:49:57] !learn @action smoke marinates {0}, smokes them, and eats them afterwards. Munch Munch. [12:50:01] wait jeremyb is a bot? :D [12:50:06] finding log.... [12:50:16] !smoke zhuyifei1999 [12:50:17] Yes petan. [12:50:17] * Helpmebot marinates zhuyifei1999, smokes them, and eats them afterwards. Munch Munch. [12:51:05] ChanServ at some point overlaps with wm-bot [12:51:08] let me kick it [12:51:25] kick ChanServ :D [12:51:26] [5:12:35] !smoke wm-bot [12:51:27] [5:12:35] * Helpmebot sets wm-bot over hickory smoke and waits for the taste to be just right, then eats wm-bot. [12:51:33] done [12:51:40] @kick petan overlaps with wm-bot :) [12:51:50] @kick yuvipanda pre-emptive kick [12:52:17] So much abuse of admin powers. :p [12:52:20] hmm, friday evenings are a silly time [12:52:30] evening for you [12:52:33] here it's silly all day [12:52:38] !pat petan [12:52:38] * Helpmebot pats petan like a dog. *W00F* [12:52:38] https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Git#Fixing_a_path_conflict [12:52:38] true true [12:52:50] ^ overlap [12:52:53] and annoying, too [12:52:59] Cyberpower678: [12:53:00] [5:12:35] !smoke wm-bot [12:53:01] [5:12:35] * Helpmebot sets wm-bot over hickory smoke and waits for the taste to be just right, then eats wm-bot. [12:53:02] (Time in UTC, logged by YiFeiBot on 30130705) [12:53:15] !smoke zhuyifei1999 [12:53:15] * Helpmebot marinates zhuyifei1999, smokes them, and eats them afterwards. Munch Munch. [12:53:34] we should make #wikimedia-labs-offtopic [12:54:31] Yes, there is overlap YuviPanda. You can always !curl Helpmebot is it bothers you.. [12:54:51] Hmb has other functions that are useful. [12:54:57] like? [12:54:57] !helpmebot [12:54:58] * Helpmebot v6 is maintained by stwalkerster | My source code is available at http://is.gd/E7XrEy | The list of hard-coded commands can be found at http://is.gd/GQLN1a | The list of commands I have learned in-channel can be found at http://is.gd/hueY0E and may change at any time | The list of users with special access can be found at http://is.gd/AR00iW | I'm glad to be here to help you! [12:54:58] liar [12:55:15] ^^^ read up. :) [12:55:30] !wm-bot [12:55:30] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WM-Bot [12:55:30] liar [12:55:37] :D [12:55:47] !join #wikimedia-labs-offtopic [12:56:55] @trusted [12:56:55] I trust: petan!.*@wikimedia/Petrb (2admin), .*@wikimedia/.* (2trusted), .*@mediawiki/.* (2trusted), .*@wikimedia/Ryan-lane (2admin), .*@wikipedia/.* (2trusted), .*@nightshade.toolserver.org (2trusted), .*@wikimedia/Krinkle (2admin), .*@[Ww]ikimedia/.* (2trusted), .*@wikipedia/Cyberpower678 (2admin), .*@wirenat2\.strw\.leidenuniv\.nl (2trusted), .*@unaffiliated/valhallasw (2trusted), .*@mediawiki/yuvipanda (2admin), [13:00:00] Steinsplitter fixed :P [13:00:16] :) [13:02:24] YuviPanda can be happy now :D [13:02:30] no more spam in here [13:02:45] @infobot-link+ #wikimedia-labs-offtopic [13:02:56] !curl [13:02:56] * Helpmebot curls up in a ball. [13:03:04] @infobot-share-trust+ #wikimedia-labs-offtopic [13:03:04] You inserted channel #wikimedia-labs-offtopic to shared db [13:04:39] !help [13:04:39] !documentation for labs !wm-bot for bot [13:04:39] If you are trying to get help for a question you have related to the wiki, please type: !helper and your question. If you are trying to get help for one of my commands, you can find full details using !commands and following the link. [13:04:42] .. [13:04:47] !q Helpmebot [13:04:47] There are multiple keys, refine your input: queue, quilt, [13:04:51] @q Helpmebot [13:04:55] !help [13:04:55] !documentation for labs !wm-bot for bot [13:04:59] here we go [13:05:28] !forget help [13:05:51] !helpmebot [13:05:51] liar [13:06:56] @trusted [13:06:56] I trust: petan!.*@wikimedia/Petrb (2admin), .*@wikimedia/.* (2trusted), .*@mediawiki/.* (2trusted), .*@wikimedia/Ryan-lane (2admin), .*@wikipedia/.* (2trusted), .*@nightshade.toolserver.org (2trusted), .*@wikimedia/Krinkle (2admin), .*@[Ww]ikimedia/.* (2trusted), .*@wikipedia/Cyberpower678 (2admin), .*@wirenat2\.strw\.leidenuniv\.nl (2trusted), .*@unaffiliated/valhallasw (2trusted), .*@mediawiki/yuvipanda (2admin), [13:07:16] @unq Helpmebot [13:07:16] Permission denied [13:07:20] ... [13:07:32] '@' trusted does not list trusted channels, only users. Every time you do that everybody gets pinged. [13:07:34] do we really need Helpmebot here? :P [13:07:56] I guess not.. [13:08:09] Unq and I'll make it leave. [13:08:20] @unq Helpmebot [13:08:28] !quit [13:08:34] !part [13:08:46] o/ [13:11:48] YuviPanda did you have a look on that sul thing [13:12:00] petan: not yet petan. dunno when I can get to that [13:12:03] ok [13:12:15] addshore: how's your db migration? [13:12:24] mhhm [13:12:29] got some problems with my encoding again [13:13:05] petan: any progress on "all" not returning the proper $url? [13:13:28] Or new pages not showing up? [13:13:54] basically petan i had a mess of strings encoded, \u01e3\xf0 [13:14:01] i have the \u decoding nailed [13:14:09] just cant make php work with the \x bit :> [13:14:26] ok [13:14:29] im remembering to format my new table in utf8 of course ;p [13:14:30] Technical_13 nope [13:15:03] :( [13:19:06] !trout Technical_13 [13:19:18] !uncurl [13:19:19] Done [13:19:32] can we just keep it in -offtopic? [13:19:50] this channel should really be used only for labs related discussion [13:19:51] petan, We can use it to trout Coren if breaks labs. [13:20:16] - Oppose [13:20:35] I afraid that only person who frequently breaks labs is me ;) [13:20:38] Ēsatrēoƿ\xfe [13:20:41] Ēsatrēoƿ\xfe [13:20:51] addshore: indeed [13:21:16] how can i convert the \xfe to whatever character it is meant to be >.< [13:21:25] idk [13:21:31] I have no idea what \xfe is [13:21:39] where u see it? [13:21:43] hes or something [13:21:47] !part [13:21:52] petan: thats at the end of an article name [13:21:58] in where [13:22:04] sql? http? [13:22:05] hmm, it was parsed from a dum [13:22:07] dump [13:22:10] xml? [13:22:20] just wondering if i can fix the probelm im my list without having to scan all of the dumps again... [13:22:30] hmm [13:22:33] !trout is trouts $1 [13:22:33] Key was added [13:22:39] https://github.com/legoktm/dumpscanner/blob/master/interwiki_finder.py [13:22:44] !trout Cyberpower678 [13:22:44] trouts Cyberpower678 [13:23:10] addshore: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3027157/what-does-xfe-mean-in-ruby [13:23:32] yus :P but how do i convert a hex exscape char to a char... [13:23:51] there should be a function for that in your language [13:24:01] php, and i just cant find it [13:24:01] xD [13:24:16] currently to fix the unicode bits i have to do [13:24:16] $s = preg_replace( "/\\\\u([A-Fa-f0-9]{4})/", "&#x$1;", $s); [13:24:16] $s = html_entity_decode($s, ENT_COMPAT, 'utf-8'); [13:24:21] http://php.net/manual/en/function.ord.php [13:24:22] which is just plain stupid [13:24:35] Returns the ASCII value of the first character of string. [13:24:44] thats not very usefull :P [13:24:54] !forget trout [13:25:03] !trout del [13:25:04] Successfully removed trout [13:25:11] lol [13:25:22] unless I pregmatch all /\x([0-9][a-z]){2}/ and pass them all through that before re adding them to the strings :/ [13:25:25] you can do something like if (ord(ESC_CHAR) == my_char)) { echo "this is escape!"; } [13:25:26] blergh [13:25:48] but i have strings, not chars [13:25:58] yus :P but how do i convert a hex exscape char to a char... [13:26:03] and the char can be anywhere throughout the string xD [13:26:07] xD [13:26:07] you were talking about chars all the time :P [13:26:13] !trout is /me takes a 10-pound rainbow trout out of a river, and smacks $1 with it over and over. [13:26:13] btw string = array of char [13:26:13] Key was added [13:26:19] !trout Technical_13 [13:26:19] /me takes a 10-pound rainbow trout out of a river, and smacks Technical_13 with it over and over. [13:26:21] and there are likely even articles for these chars that are meant to look like zx34 xD [13:26:23] blergh [13:26:46] heh [13:26:49] Cyberpower678: that doesn't work [13:26:54] petan, how do I program an action command. [13:26:57] wait petan ! http://www.asciitable.com/ [13:27:10] Cyberpower678, zhuyifei1999 can you take this to -offtopic which was created for that [13:27:20] I don't think you can Cyberpower678 [13:27:24] \o/ [13:27:40] if i preg replace \x(([0-9][a-z]){2}) with &#$1!!!!!! [13:27:50] Cyberpower678 that is in my to-do with low priority, action commands are not very useful [13:27:50] petan: I didn't make it here [13:27:56] um I have some problems using public_html on bots [13:28:06] Pyfisch can be describe a bit [13:28:09] * you [13:28:10] 1. thing is I can't create a folder there [13:28:16] mhhhhm that wont work [13:28:25] Pyfisch you should have a folder there [13:28:33] as this is the hex, so in the middle i need to convert the hex to dec [13:28:47] >.< [13:28:52] petan: nice to know that... but I have no [13:28:58] um [13:29:00] that is kind of bug [13:29:03] let me create one for you [13:29:06] Damianz had a script for that [13:29:11] it seems to broke [13:29:46] next thing is, where are the files on the web? [13:29:57] bots.wmflabs.org/~pyfisch [13:31:34] petan: thanks it works [13:31:50] yw [13:42:59] petan: can you please help me check why user local-jimmy can't write to his $HOME/x? [13:43:06] ok [13:44:00] petan: all files I have scp'd to tools, chgrp & chmod'd to the local- user have the same problem [13:44:20] petan: I have to copy these file on tools and nuke the old ones in order to get write permission somehow [13:44:24] yes I see [13:44:31] this is weird [13:44:50] first of all, the permissions on folder are wrong but that shouldn't cause problems [13:45:03] you have a+x but nothing else [13:45:14] which kind of doesn't make sense :) [13:45:20] -rw-rw---- 1 jimmy local-jimmy 0 Jul 12 13:40 x [13:45:27] petan: but stat ~ gives 2771/drwxrws--x [13:45:37] this should allow both jimmy and members of local-jimmy to write there [13:45:42] let me try that [13:46:08] petan: yes that's what I have in mind, but unless I make a copy of the file and set the exact same permission, local-jimmy can't write to it [13:46:58] this is really weird, I think nfs server is broken a bit [13:47:07] for now I recommend you to change owner to local-jimmy [13:47:43] petan: but unless I make a copy of the file, I can't do that [13:47:49] petan: unless I'm root :) [13:47:56] there is a tool called take [13:48:06] you just type "take " [13:48:07] as tool [13:48:13] oh that's convenient [13:49:33] petan: actually my point is to let ~jimmy and ~local-jimmy share the same dotfiles, but chown local-jimmy:wikidev defeats the point by allowing the whole wikidev group writes to them :( [13:50:00] yes I understand, this should be fixed [13:50:12] Coren can do this, I have no powers to do that :/ [13:50:22] I got the powah! [13:50:44] * Coren reads backscroll. [13:51:11] shall I make a new local-unwritable file? :) [13:54:02] jimmyxu: I'm not sure I understand your issue exactly. Can you tell me what you tried to do and how it failed? [13:54:44] Coren: I scp something from my computer to jimmy@tools-login:~/ [13:55:06] Coren: mv it to ~local-jimmy [13:55:12] Coren: chgrp to local-jimmy, chmod to 664 [13:55:19] Coren: and now local-jimmy should but can't write to it [13:56:03] How odd. Can you try it again so I see the exact result? [13:56:11] (without workaround) [13:57:01] Coren: at ~local-jimmy/x [13:57:38] ... okay; that's the expected permissions. Can now, local-jimmy can't write to it? [13:57:46] Coren: $ echo x >> x [13:57:47] -bash: x: Permission denied [13:57:54] Coren: as local-jimmy [13:58:13] Don't touch anything while I look into it. :-) [13:58:17] okay :) [14:03:02] qchris, prod machines are isolated from labs, so going via bastion.wmflabs is definitely not the right choice. [14:03:38] oops, apparently I don't know how to work a scrollbar :( [14:10:09] jimmyxu: Well, I see /what/ is going on. For some reason, that file ends up with acl entries that don't match the file mode. [14:10:26] !screenfix [14:10:26] script /dev/null [14:10:29] Coren: ooh, acl [14:10:47] The interesting question now is "why the hell?" [14:11:29] Coren: same thing that happened to aude? [14:11:46] YuviPanda: No, that file was just created. [14:12:03] Coren: it has something to do with scp? touch x as jimmy then do the same ends up no problem [14:12:05] For some reason, why you chowned or chmodded it, it acquired acl with the original permissions. [14:12:38] jimmyxu: Perhaps your scp client is being too smart for its own good? Could you scp a file like this but not mv or otherwise touch it? [14:13:02] Coren: at ~jimmy/z [14:13:36] Yep. That file ended up with an acl too. That one, however, has group::rw- [14:13:45] Did you copy it any differently? [14:13:54] Coren: nope, did exactly the same [14:14:11] Compare: [14:14:27] -rw-rw-r--+ 1 jimmy local-50568 0 Jul 12 13:56 x [14:14:28] # file: x [14:14:28] # owner: jimmy [14:14:28] # group: local-50568 [14:14:28] user::rw- [14:14:28] group::r-- [14:14:28] mask::rw- [14:14:29] other::r-- [14:14:40] root@labstore3:/srv/tools/project/jimmy# getfacl y [14:14:41] # file: y [14:14:41] # owner: jimmy [14:14:41] # group: local-50568 [14:14:41] user::rw- [14:14:41] group::rw- [14:14:41] mask::rw- [14:14:42] other::r-- [14:15:38] And from what I can tell, you're the only user with acls on files. :-) [14:15:49] Coren: for the record: x was scp'd, and y was created on tools [14:16:19] Coren: but why? I don't recall having done anything related to acls at all [14:16:33] I'm not seeing it either. [14:16:43] Did you create ~jimmy/z on tools? [14:16:48] Coren: nope, scp'd [14:16:58] That one is blissfully acl-free. [14:17:11] Coren: shall I chgrp it again? [14:17:18] Try [14:17:49] jimmy@tools-login:~$ mv z ~local-jimmy [14:17:49] jimmy@tools-login:~$ chmod 664 ~local-jimmy/z [14:17:49] jimmy@tools-login:~$ chgrp local-jimmy ~local-jimmy/z [14:17:50] jimmy@tools-login:~$ become jimmy [14:17:50] local-jimmy@tools-login:~$ echo z >> z [14:17:50] -bash: z: Permission denied [14:17:51] Huh. [14:17:53] Coren: nope [14:17:59] It acquired an acl. [14:18:22] With group::r-- [14:18:33] * Coren ponders. [14:19:59] Aha. I can reproduce the problem if I touch in a home and mv to a project. [14:20:38] touching directly in the project dir from the normal user creates the file without acl and with the expected permissions. [14:21:13] Coren: but I touched 'y' in ~jimmy and then moved it [14:21:19] Coren: ends up writable [14:21:47] jimmyxu: Still has an acl. The difference is that when you created the file, it had g+w so the acl was also created with g+w. [14:22:10] * jimmyxu checks umask [14:22:13] The difference in that case is that the acl "happens" to be right. [14:22:29] when bots is closed finally, will there be new instances on tools? [14:22:46] Pyfisch: We're adding exec nodes as load demands. [14:23:19] Coren: yea.. umask 022 then the problem appears [14:23:32] jimmyxu: /Something/ is trying to be too smart about preserving permissions at all costs. :-) [14:25:04] The problem is that I didn't turn on ACLs at the nfs level, so that from the client you can't even /see/ that the file has 'em. [14:25:27] No, actually, the problem is that it acquires them. It's made more obscure by not being able to see them. [14:26:02] so it becomes magic [14:26:30] * Coren tries to figure out why it happens and why it /apparently/ never happened before. [14:27:04] Can you try to scp something straight to ~local-jimmy? [14:27:15] (i.e.: not to your home then mv) [14:28:38] Coren: ~local-jimmy/f [14:28:58] Ah, see, /that/ one doesn't have stealth acls added to it. [14:29:20] So it's apparently the move accross filesystems that's trying to do something funky to preserve permissions. [14:30:38] * jimmyxu apparently is too lazy to scp into local- [14:30:56] needs to type the path.. won't work [14:31:35] Yeah, that'd allow you to work around the problem, but it's still annoying that it exists in the first place. [14:32:53] jimmyxu: Can you do the scp-mv things again see if you see a difference? [14:33:50] Coren: seems it worked \o/ [14:34:39] I forcibly remounted the underlying filesystem noacl, so whatever trickery was going on couldn't work anymore. That does mean I can't turn on /actual/ acl support for users though. [14:35:00] Which is a shame. [14:36:57] * Coren will need to research that odd behaviour. Perhaps the NFS server notices that both nfs mounts are on the same filesystem and tries to be too smart for its own good, or there is something odd with the way the kernel does a rename() on NFS when the fsid of source and destination match. [14:37:29] * jimmyxu hands Coren some cookies :) [14:39:20] ... [14:40:19] It's definitely a bug though. Even if I had ACLs turn on all the way and you could have seen it, I can think of no reasonable semantics that would allow mv to quietly add an acl. [14:42:01] Coren, have you seen #wikimedia-labs-offtopic [14:43:27] ... [14:43:34] Technical_13: ... yes? [14:44:13] Cyberpower678: That seems to be... unneeded. If it's so offtopic that it belongs on -labs, certainly any other channel would do and there is no need for a dedicated channel? :-) [14:44:39] (+1 to Coren) [14:44:39] Coren, petan made it. [14:45:16] Cyberpower678: It'd seem unneeded even if the potus had made it. :-) [14:45:30] I just go with it. [14:45:32] :p [14:51:08] ... [14:55:17] Why am I still @q in offtopic? [15:11:35]