[00:16:04] !log tools tools-exec-01 doesn't come up again even after repeat reboots [00:16:06] Logged the message, Master [00:30:45] sumanah: thanks for the pastebin link. I was AFK and didn't get it until after I posted on TParis's talk page. [00:31:04] it's ok :-) thanks [00:31:30] bye bye [01:01:52] toolabs server has been restarted? [01:04:53] Little late to the party Danny_B ? [01:05:17] just came home and found my putty off [01:05:25] and screen away [01:05:31] so wondering what happened [01:07:00] :39] scfc_de: I rebooted them all off the labconsole Special:NovaInstance page about an hour ago [01:07:20] About an hour and a half ago. [01:20:41] Danny_B: Made necessary by the NFS switch. Annoyance, but on the plus side there hasn't been a stall since. [01:46:34] [bz] (8NEW - created by: 2MZMcBride, priority: 4Unprioritized - 6normal) [Bug 52909] EE prototype's aftv5_enabled_pages.php script on Wikimedia Labs doesn't escape its output - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52909 [01:47:00] Hello. [01:47:01] I'm here. [05:35:24] WTF? [05:35:38] Can someone tell me why my bot went completely down? [05:40:50] Cyberpower678: ? [05:41:25] zhuyifei1999, ? [05:41:41] (13:34:45) Cyberpower678!~Cyberpowe@dslb-188-110-099-161.pools.arcor-ip.net just joined the channel [05:41:43] (13:34:45) Cyberpower678!~Cyberpowe@dslb-188-110-099-161.pools.arcor-ip.net has quit [Changing host] [05:41:44] (13:34:45) Cyberpower678!~Cyberpowe@wikipedia/Cyberpower678 just joined the channel [05:41:45] (13:35:24) WTF? [05:41:46] (13:35:38) Can someone tell me why my bot went completely down? [05:42:08] ? [05:42:41] is there any log [05:42:47] task.err [05:43:12] 802908 status cyberbot Continuous / Running 2013-08-16 05:37:04 CPU: 0.66s VMEM: 271M/500M [05:43:13] 802912 rfx-report cyberbot Continuous / Running 2013-08-16 05:37:05 CPU: 0.49s VMEM: 271M/500M [05:43:14] 802916 datefix cyberbot Continuous / Running 2013-08-16 05:37:05 CPU: 2.86s VMEM: 273M/500M [06:09:41] Cyberpower678: labs was restarted this afternoon pacific time [06:09:43] zhuyifei1999, Labs caused it to shut down. :/ [06:10:15] rschen7754, the question is why the tasks didn't restart like they should've . [06:10:29] :/ [06:10:35] mine restarted... [06:10:44] Mine didn't/ [06:10:54] They're set to run continuously. [09:08:59] Hi, here is Janette. I started using tool labs and I have a data related question. Are there somewhere Article Feedback Tool data available? There is an account linked on the web site to the toolserver, but this account has been expired. Thanks a lot [09:10:20] api? [09:10:34] or database? [09:12:08] database would be better [09:12:22] we could get the data over the API as well? [09:15:01] my colleague just checked the API and we realized that we get the data of version V5 there, but we need the data of V4 as we want to compare them with other data (sep2011 - sep2012) [09:35:39] nette: try http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ApiSandbox [09:41:41] hi nette: here it is what you are looking for http://datahub.io/dataset/wikipedia-article-ratings ;) [09:43:37] oohh, I think this is what I am looking for, thanks a lot Claudia :) [10:34:44] [bz] (8NEW - created by: 2Tim Landscheidt, priority: 4Unprioritized - 6major) [Bug 52917] tools-exec-01 is not responding - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52917 [12:28:29] addshore: Do you use global_access.log or do you know other users who do besides awstats? [12:38:41] Change on 12mediawiki a page Wikimedia Labs/Tool Labs/Rules was MPelletier (WMF), changed by https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=765201 link WIP edit summary: $6 [13:42:09] https://toolserver.org/~quentinv57/tools/sulinfo.php?username=Technical+13&showinactivity=1&showblocks=1&showlocked=1 [13:42:12] Warning : The SQL server s3 is down or having issues. Consequently, the following wikis won't be displayed : ....... [13:42:16] Due to an issue on Toolserver's s7 databases server, these informations cannot been displayed. Please wait that the problem is fixed or request help at #wikimedia-toolserver. [13:42:19] What's the status on ^^^ [13:46:57] Technical_13: You're more likely to get a knowledgable answer to that on #wikimedia-toolserver I think. [13:49:16] I asked there an hour ago and no-one was answering so I figured I would try my luck here. [13:49:42] I'll try again Coren. :) [13:50:29] DaB usually comes online around 2-3 hours from now. [13:57:35] amette is "online" there now. [14:06:08] Coren: scfc_de >> https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Addshore#Need_for_a_Village_Pump:O [14:06:21] scfc_de: inregards to what.? [14:07:08] scfc_de: the above line is in response to the question you asked me 2 hours ago :P and the line above that is totally unrelated :) [14:07:09] addshore: Sure, but it needs a more thematically appropriate name. "The hub?" :-) [14:07:41] Coren: sounds good :) I might dream something up this weekend or at the beginning of next week :) [14:08:09] hehe, "The Pub" ;p [14:12:18] addshore: Just simple: Do you use global_access.log or do you know tools that use it? :-) [14:12:43] I dont use it and I dont know of any tools that do :) (although there might be one or two) [14:12:56] ... besides awstats. [14:13:26] Re Village Pump, something laboratory-related perhaps? [15:42:27] hey guys, I'm new to wikimedia labs. I wanna run a python script for generating some common.js files. can I simple run it on bastion.wmflabs.org, or should I care for some special policy? [15:42:36] *simply [15:51:27] Nirakka: You shouldn't run anything on bastion.wmflabs.org; that's for ssh'ing only. Are you already a member of the Tools project? [15:53:57] scfc_de: I am [15:54:11] Nirakka: Have you read the help page? [15:54:17] !toolshelp | Nirakka [15:54:23] !toolsdoc | Nirakka [15:54:23] Nirakka: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nova_Resource:Tools/Help [15:54:56] I have it open, thanks ^^ [15:55:14] but creating a tool seems like overkill to me [15:55:22] it's just a script I want to run once [15:55:51] If you just want to run it only once interactively, you can do so from your personal account. [15:56:01] okay [15:56:11] but on tools-login.... [15:56:12] right? [15:56:20] (Though if it's long and/or resource intensive, you could ship it off to the grid) [15:56:49] Depends on how heavy it is. As a rule, running a script on the grid is as simple as 'jsub your_script' [15:57:41] If it's a few minutes, then yeah, you can run it on tools-login (or tools-dev) [15:58:10] and if it's longer, I can just do jsub -once myscript? [15:59:21] You don't even need -once as a rule; that option means "don't start it again if it's already running". [15:59:37] (i.e. "make sure it runs exactly one instance") [15:59:43] can I execute a python script via jsub, or do I have to provide him some sh which executes python? [16:00:19] If your script is executable and starts with a shebang, you can use it directly. Also, you can "jsub python your_thing.py" which works just as well. [16:01:13] The latter is a bit less handy because the output files will be named 'python.out' and 'python.err' by default, which is less intuitive; but it works fine. [16:10:45] Coren: Why https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=765201's "Do not use your personal account for noninteractive use:"? (Yes, i saw the "WIP".) If someone runs an SQL query/compilation/etc. or something similar as a personal job, I'm quite alright with that provided it's on the grid. [16:12:40] scfc_de: There are a number of reasons, the most important of which is to keep the open source/open data policy; code one runs really should be in a tool account and suitably licensed. [16:13:21] scfc_de: The 'interactive use only' line is simple and unambiguous, and still allows one to run simple stuff for one-offs. [16:13:51] But I still see users running bots and scheduled jobs on their personal accounts when they really shouldn't. [16:13:58] Coren: But the licence situation is the same for personal and tool accounts, isn't it? [16:14:48] Yes and no. Ostensibly yes, but we will *never* take over or grant another user access to one's personal account meaning that orphaned tools then need to be forked. [16:15:46] I.e.: it's the same in theory, but running stuff on one's personal account causes problems in practice it's better to avoid. Besides, it's not like a tool account is an onerous proposition. [16:16:39] Coren: Re bots: Me, too, and I write nice wiki messages about that, but I don't think we can solve that by strict rules, because enforcing them causes very bad air. [16:18:00] I don't remember saying anything about zealous enforcement. :-) The point of the rule is to have something to point to as well as being informative. [16:18:01] scfc_de: is there any way to enforce them without causing bad feelings? [16:19:03] I don't randomly start killing stuff without having a word with the user, but it's important to have the expectation be clear from the start to /avoid/ bad feelings later. [16:20:14] sumanah: I don't think so. Some people are very secretive about what they do, and any rule that forces them to work in the "public" (even if it's a tool account with only themselves as maintainer) can have ... interesting effects. [16:21:12] Coren: Then we should really emphasis the "collaborative" aspect of Labs. I. e., it's not a place to run "your" bot, but a place to develop tools together. [16:21:27] scfc_de: Not to put too fine a point on it, but having the work and data in the open and freely available is kinda the entire /point/ of the movement. :-) [16:21:39] scfc_de: Can you tell me more about the (completely legitimate!) reasons why people would be interested in working privately? [16:21:50] If I understand that point of view better then we can make solutions [16:22:23] scfc_de: That wouldn't be entirely true either, it's a fine place to run "your" bot as well, so long as you understand the expectations. [16:22:39] Coren: I totally agree, if that wasn't clear. [16:23:31] I presume the people who are very very secretive simply run things from their own machines, rather than trusting external hosts such as Tool Labs, Toolserver, or others. [16:25:09] Hey all! I just got this question here: Why does https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nova_Resource:Tools/Help#Steps_to_create_a_user_database_on_tools-db not work? [16:25:32] tools-login says access denied. [16:25:50] sumanah: The toolserver did have different expectations towards their users, although I expect the difference is academic for most of them. I know of at least one ts user who is not pleased at the idea of having to open source his code. [16:26:05] Silke_WMDE: It should. Can you pastebin the exact attempt and result? [16:26:37] sure [16:27:06] sumanah: We had one user here on Tools who didn't want others to co-run his bot because it uses his personal wiki credentials (there's probably a rule against that as well). I suggested to him creating a separate account for the bot, but he simply didn't want to. I assume others are just extremely shy and find any interaction with other humans very troubling (my assumption). [16:27:19] Coren: do you happen to know -- for that user -- why specifically he is unhappy about open sourcing his code? Is it the headache of having to choose a license etc., or a wish to be more "in charge", or general privacy, or something else? [16:27:23] Coren: http://pastebin.com/yFYCPAwd [16:27:59] scfc_de: do the projects allow bot running as your own user? [16:27:59] Silke_WMDE: Users are not allowed to create databases on the replicas, only tool accounts are. [16:28:27] Coren: That's tools-db. [16:28:43] * Raymond_ listens. [16:28:46] I have to problem [16:28:53] sumanah: A little from column a, a little from column b. I know that "don't want to vandals to know what the countermeasures are" is part of it. [16:29:00] the [16:29:30] Ryan_Lane: I think the project could have been beta, so this may be murky waters. [16:29:32] Silke_WMDE: Oh, if your account was created before the replicas, your access to tools-db uses the "old" credentials in .my.cnf and not the replica.cnf [16:29:35] Coren: OK, that right there I can understand -- security through obscurity does have its place. [16:29:55] beta? as in deployment-prep? [16:30:00] Ryan_Lane: Yes. [16:30:16] * Ryan_Lane grumbles [16:30:31] that's a silly reason [16:30:36] sumanah: That's a good argument for not making the source generally available, not for preventing other community members to take it over if it ends up orphaned yet depended on by the projects (hence the open source/data policy) [16:30:43] Coren: I have tried .my.cnf, error stays. [16:30:48] Ryan_Lane: Very yes :-). [16:31:06] Silke_WMDE: Your account is so old that it may very well be a little broken in that respect. Lemme fix that for you. [16:31:20] Coren: And for Raymond_ ! [16:31:36] Coren: yes please, for me (raymond) too :) [16:31:37] Raymond_: what is your shell account name? [16:31:54] Coren: raymond [16:32:20] This should be in the docs, too, that it can matter how old you account is. [16:33:07] Silke_WMDE: Honestly, I think you are one of the 5-6 people at the most where that could still be an issue. :-) [16:33:57] ... waitaminit. [16:34:03] Something doesn't add up. [16:34:07] * Coren dives in code. [16:36:33] Coren: BTW, can we migrate in the long term to standard ~/.my.cnfs (again)? Most code examples for access to MySQL are based on that, and we are rather (unnecessary) odd there. [16:44:17] scfc_de: hmm, I can see how automated tools would be a way for a person to influence the group project while shielding themselves from *being* influenced. [16:46:00] Coren: for antivandalism or other sensitive tools, would it be feasible (setting aside the question of whether it is desirable) for us to temporarily have a gated source repo? So anyone *in the Tool Labs project* or in some permission group could access it, but it would not be open to the world, yet [16:46:19] again, I envision this being a temporary state [16:51:17] * sumanah thinks about tradeoffs, https://blog.pinboard.in/2012/01/the_five_stages_of_hosting/ [16:52:12] I would say we are a little like the "dorm room" model, in Tool Labs [16:55:57] sumanah: I'm not sure about the connotation of "influence". The big advantage of computers is that you don't have to defend your actions (source quality, etc.) to them, they don't remember the plethora of mistakes you made, etc., and you can switch them off at any time if they bother you too much, and I think that some people like such an environment. [16:56:19] :) [16:56:23] * bd808 does [16:58:05] ... and of course they should watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SARbwvhupQ :-). [16:58:29] scfc_de: Right. I understand that. What I mean by "influence" is that people who really don't want to work on a collaborative project at all *end up schisming from Wikimedia entirely* [16:59:36] To edit Wikipedia is to influence others and to have one's work influenced by other people, even if you don't see them right there [17:00:11] people who want to have an effect on the world beyond themselves can also create bots to influence the site, or tools that read from the site .... but if they don't open source their code then other people can't suggest improvements to it, *and that is an advantage* for those who feel insecure about this part of human interaction [17:01:54] I suppose many good projects have never been opened to the world because someone wanted improve the code first. So the temporary state sort of lasted forever. [17:02:02] absolutely, Silke_WMDE [17:02:22] Silke_WMDE: That's exactly what the video is about, BTW :-). [17:02:51] oh. sorry. I'd need a proprietary browser to watch it :p [17:03:29] sumanah: I think that the source repo is accessory to the actual problem (i.e.: personal account vs tool account) [17:04:13] Silke_WMDE: really? I turrned on the HTML5 beta in YT and that's how I watch most YT videos [17:04:33] Silke_WMDE: Incidentally, I found the issue. Since the DB replicas, I've never actually given access to *users* to the local DB, only tools. I don't remember whether this was an oversight or on purpose, but it circles back to the "don't run stuff as yourself" discussion. [17:05:59] I remember giving access to the /replicas/ to user deliberately though, to allow quick one-off sql queries against them. [17:07:45] Coren: OK, thanks. So a "user" database always actually is a db of the tool account. [17:08:03] * Coren nods. [17:08:21] Yeah, that command works, for you too, Raymond_ ? [17:08:45] ^^ I mean the same one run in the tool account [17:10:01] Silke_WMDE: you mean when I say "become raymond" first? [17:10:09] yes, that works! [17:11:15] cool. how could we make this more clear in the documentation Raymond_ ? [17:11:56] Silke_WMDE: but the next step fails: [17:12:08] MariaDB [(none)]> create database raymond_wiki; [17:12:10] ERROR 1044 (42000): Access denied for user 'p50380g50634'@'%' to database 'raymond_wiki' [17:12:21] And: Coren "create a new database (where USERNAME is your credentials user" is confusing. It sounds like the actual user. [17:13:03] "your credentials user" would be, in raymond's case 'p50380g50634'. I.e.: the username in replica.cnf [17:13:30] ah [17:13:59] And Coren do you have an answer for Raymond_ why he can't create the db? [17:14:11] ^^ [17:14:45] "create database raymond_wiki;" should have been "create database p50380g50634_wiki;" [17:15:07] Silke_WMDE: maybe add the step "become raymond" to "Steps to create a user database on tools-db" [17:15:32] Coren: works! [17:15:58] good, I'll add an example to the wiki page [17:16:30] thanks a lot for your help! [17:16:42] thank you Silke_WMDE [17:16:42] Silke_WMDE, Coren ^^ [17:17:03] yeah, thanks Coren! [17:33:02] Raymond_: Please have a look at the documentation - does this example cover what we just said? [17:37:53] Silke_WMDE: looks good! [17:40:59] so, regular users cannot check what indexes you have on the db replicas [17:41:31] is that for the same reason this doesn't work on the TS? (views?) [17:42:06] are the indexes documented somewhere? [17:42:47] I'd love to get one on langlinks.ll_title... [17:45:41] dschwen: I tend to look at the SQL source from git when I wonder what indexes should be available: https://git.wikimedia.org/raw/mediawiki%252fcore%252egit/HEAD/maintenance%252ftables%252esql [17:45:54] there are two tables that are different here though [17:46:36] revision_userindex and logging_userindex [17:46:48] which you should use if you're doing lookups based on usernames [17:49:16] hi dschwen (wusste gar nicht dass du im chat anzutreffen bist, danke übrigens dass du dich um den de-flag antrag gekümmert hast) [18:00:35] thx Nettrom [18:01:36] hallo Seinsplitter, ich war auch schonmal oefer online im irc [18:44:03] [bz] (8NEW - created by: 2Daniel Schwen, priority: 4Unprioritized - 6enhancement) [Bug 52902] Please install libfcgi-dev - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52902 [19:34:58] I'm having some trouble with a cgi program. Does not work and I cannot find an error log. [19:35:17] I see access.log in my tools home, but no error.log [19:36:18] probably the issue is that it is an fcgi thingie [19:40:22] [bz] (8NEW - created by: 2Daniel Schwen, priority: 4Unprioritized - 6blocker) [Bug 52944] Please enable mod_fastcgi support - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52944 [19:42:33] hey kma500 [19:43:47] here's the page I have up:https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Labs/Create_shared_sql_service_for_all_projects [19:44:00] * sumanah clicks on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Labs/Create_shared_sql_service_for_all_projects [19:44:53] Coren: can we just delete https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Labs/Create_shared_sql_service_for_all_projects and redirect it to the Labs roadmap? [19:45:53] TODOs for documentation: [19:46:07] take https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Kmenger/ToolLabsGuide and update pywikipedia + git/gerrit stuff. [19:46:21] go through the giant list of pages to update or redirect and update or redirect them [19:46:31] then publicize the new materials [19:46:59] that is, publish the Tool Labs Guide as the primary guidance [19:47:12] and then publicize it via email, IRC, etc. [19:50:31] kma500: I am looking at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Kmenger/ToolLabsGuide and I am looking at http://etherpad.wmflabs.org/pad/p/Tool_Labs_Sprint_July_23 [19:54:18] dschwen: At the moment and until we can install Apache 2.4, reading error.log requires root privileges :-). What's the tool's name? [19:54:27] zoomviewer [19:55:16] dschwen: [Fri Aug 16 19:28:22 2013] [error] [client 10.4.1.89] File does not exist: /data/project/zoomviewer/public_html/iipsrv.fcgi [19:55:27] that's the only error? [19:55:38] I'm getting a 500 [19:55:50] http://tools.wmflabs.org/zoomviewer/cgi-bin/iipsrv.fcgi [19:55:57] dschwen: [Fri Aug 16 19:26:42 2013] [alert] [client 10.4.1.89] /data/project/zoomviewer/cgi-bin/.htaccess: Invalid command 'FastCgiServer', perhaps misspelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration [19:56:03] the public_html error is unrelated [19:56:19] dschwen: dschwen [Fri Aug 16 19:27:28 2013] [error] [client 10.4.1.89] SoftException in Application.cpp:537: Could not execute script "/data/project/zoomviewer/cgi-bin/htaccess" [19:56:25] dschwen: [Fri Aug 16 19:27:28 2013] [error] [client 10.4.1.89] Caused by SystemException in API_Linux.cpp:444: execve() for program "/data/project/zoomviewer/cgi-bin/htaccess" failed: Permission denied [19:56:25] ok, the .htaccess is moved out of the way [19:56:42] yeah, that was me beiing dumb again [19:57:11] cgi-bin/iipsrv.fcgi is the script in question [19:57:13] kma500: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Labs#Roadmap [19:57:34] dschwen: [Fri Aug 16 19:57:23 2013] [error] [client 10.4.1.89] Premature end of script headers: iipsrv.fcgi [19:57:41] hm [19:57:47] yeah, it is a compiled file [19:57:51] kma500: so, I'd like to point to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Engineering/2013-14_Goals#Wikimedia_Labs but it doesn't have anything yet [19:58:00] using libfcgi [19:58:08] so it probably needs mod_fastcgi [19:58:23] any opinions on that? any chance to get that installed? [19:58:45] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Labs/Shared_home_directories_per_project [19:59:04] Coren: mod_fastcgi? [19:59:11] kma500: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Labs - look at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Labs#Proposals [19:59:13] it is in Completed [20:00:04] Change on 12mediawiki a page Wikimedia Labs/Shared home directories per project was Sharihareswara (WMF), changed by https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=765376 link completed per [[Wikimedia Labs]] & placement of proposal in Completed section edit summary: $6 [20:00:22] kma500: take https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Labs/Log_bot_for_wikimedia-labs_channel and https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Labs/Reverse_proxy_for_web_services [20:00:36] Change on 12mediawiki a page Wikimedia Labs/Nagios management without exported puppet resources was Sharihareswara (WMF), changed by https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=765378 link completed, per [[Wikimedia Labs]] & placement of this proposal in the Completed section edit summary: $6 [20:00:39] Change on 12mediawiki a page Wikimedia Labs/Log bot for wikimedia-labs channel was Kmenger, changed by https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=765379 link  edit summary: $6 [20:00:58] Change on 12mediawiki a page Wikimedia Labs/Reverse proxy for web services was Kmenger, changed by https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=765380 link  edit summary: $6 [20:02:22] Change on 12mediawiki a page Wikimedia Labs was Sharihareswara (WMF), changed by https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=765382 link [WMF] /* Open tasks */ product tasks edit summary: $6 [21:51:28] hi, can anybody help me? [21:51:50] I want to move my files from the bots project to the tools project [21:52:30] Coren: ping [21:52:39] I've seen you're a bots admin [21:59:56] Damianz: ping [22:00:20] * Damianz finds benestar's nose [22:00:28] wohoo :) [22:00:32] a bots admin :) [22:00:45] Damianz: can you add me to the bots project again [22:00:47] ? [22:01:01] I want to download some files to prepare a move to tools project [22:01:12] Not atm - left my phone at work so can't login to wikitech [22:01:25] hmm :/ [22:01:56] Damianz: is there any other bots admin online? [22:02:43] Not that I know of [22:05:22] Damianz: so can you give me access as soon as you can? [22:05:32] I would be quite happy :) [22:05:42] Actually, 1min [22:06:27] * Damianz notes he did pick up his other bag from work, so should have his phone [22:06:39] :D [22:14:08] Damianz: leaving now [22:14:09] benestar: What's your username? [22:14:13] Bene [22:14:23] ok, waiting [22:14:26] Successfully added Bene to bots. [22:14:49] great, thanks :) [22:16:22] np [22:16:25] na [22:16:35] Damianz: I cannot access the public_html folder [22:16:49] "Permission denied" -.- [22:17:17] actually, I can access the public_html folder but not the public_html/bene folder [22:18:34] Try now [22:18:46] Seems the disable bit in the script doesn't have an enable bit [22:19:42] Damianz: thanks, works now [22:27:20] Change on 12mediawiki a page Wikimedia Labs/status was Sharihareswara (WMF), changed by https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=765439 link 8/16 edit summary: $6 [22:31:58] Damianz: might I ask you another thing? [22:32:37] sure [22:36:14] Damianz: how can I download files from bots project using putty? [22:38:41] Easiest way is probably use something like winscp or such [22:39:19] sftp. Oh, it's called PSFTP probably in putty... [22:41:54] winscp would be easier than command-line stuff with psftp... [22:42:37] well, I already connected to bastion using winscp [22:42:46] but I don't know how to get to bots-4... [22:42:53] using bastion.wmflabs.org [22:43:59] benestar: in winscp, use 'bots-4' as server, and under 'Connection/Tunnel' put down the bastion [22:45:10] hey there ya'll. I need some help from an admin: I've been granted shell access (User:Jmorgan) & I think my SSH keys are all in order, but still can't ssh into bastion.wmflabs.org. My name's not on the member list yet, and the project doesn't appear under my Special:NovaInstance filter. Any ideas? [22:45:54] shell request is here: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Shell_Request/Jmorgan [22:45:57] benestar: but I can't get it to work to be honest... [22:46:08] valhallasw: it worked for me ... ;) [22:46:44] valhallasw: ah, it didnt... [22:46:51] it's still bots-4 [22:47:38] J-Mo: You are a member of the "shell" group, so that should work. Are you sure that the SSH public key in your wiki preferences corresponds to your ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub? [22:49:07] it should. I'm pointing to the key I created for labs when I ssh: ssh -v -i ~/.ssh/id_rsa.wikitech jmorgan@bastion.wmflabs.org [22:50:52] scfc_de should I post the verbose log? [22:54:42] J-Mo: No, I'm baffled why you are not in the bastion project. [22:54:47] And only Ryan_Lane is a projectadmin on that?! [22:54:51] Coren: Do you have projectadmin rights on bastion to add Jmorgan? [22:55:33] valhallasw: does it work for you now? [22:55:40] I am still on bastion... :( [22:58:52] Damianz: I cannot connect from bastion to bots-4 using winscp [22:59:25] J-Mo: I see that you have an "old" account; I remember that there was some special magic that had to be done for those, but that's outside of my domain. Could you leave a message on https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ryan_Lane? He's on vacation, but online from time to time. [22:59:57] will do. Thanks scfc_de! [23:03:30] J-Mo: np [23:44:03] Hi there [23:44:11] COre, you around? [23:44:17] coren, rather [23:46:55] or anyone else around...could use a hand...i want to run a query on the enwiki database [23:47:58] hi Steven_Zhang - do you need help getting started? [23:48:00] !help [23:48:00] !documentation for labs !wm-bot for bot [23:48:06] !documentation [23:48:13] Yeah, I had a look at documentation [23:48:33] coren setup my access at wikimania, but i've forgotten how to connect through terminal [23:48:36] Steven_Zhang: check out https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Kmenger/ToolLabsGuide#Database_access [23:48:48] * Steven_Zhang looks [23:49:20] that whole page really [23:52:33] hmm [23:52:56] OK ive got to the part where i can see the tools logo in terminal