[00:02:01] Did I do that? Because /var/run is really a bad place for this. [00:07:09] Don't know; I also thought that I had changed something like that some time ago. Well, it works now. [00:49:38] <^demon> Gerrit reboot in ~10 minutes. [00:56:17] <^demon> Gerrit upgrade done. [02:30:14] ^demon: Here's praying that bugzilla is that painless. :-) [02:30:27] <^d> Hehe :) [02:44:34] good evening, humans [02:44:43] Quick, hide. [02:44:57] shut your noise hole, McBride [02:45:10] Sure. I'll leave the other holes open for you, though. <3 [02:45:32] * Dragonfly6-7 gets out the bottles of bleach [02:45:47] is anyone here good at writing abuse filters? [02:45:56] and/or toolserv queries? [02:46:03] Yes, just ask your question. [02:47:03] I would like a list of all enwiki userpages that have the {{retired}} template, and for which the user does *not* have autoconfirmed status. [02:47:19] someone's using this to fuck with user retention stats [02:47:55] it's also been suggested that an abuse filter might be helpful as well [02:50:32] is it feasible to generate such a list? [02:52:09] * Dragonfly6-7 waves arms [02:52:30] Dragonfly6-7: how many users are using the template? [02:52:43] From whatlinkshere? [02:53:32] T13|sleeps - a great great many [02:53:42] hold on [02:55:28] about 2000 [02:56:52] I can probably get you that list tomorrow if no-one beats me to it. [02:57:00] thank you [02:57:05] I plan to delete each of those pages [02:57:24] just found another one [02:57:28] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Medinefort78 [03:02:34] 1,802 user pages with that template actually [03:03:35] Dispenser: hey. What was that whole 24TB thing all about? I feel like I'm missing part of the story. [03:04:10] cache downloaded links for offline analysis and error checking [03:05:08] Ahh. [03:05:10] I wrote down the math in an email [03:06:31] 24T is rather a large amount of resources. While that kind of space /is/ available to Labs it's a big commitment that'd need okay from further up the food chain. You probably want to float the idea on wikitech-l [03:06:40] basically 20 million enwiki external links (excluding archive.org/google/yahoo) * 1.2 MB (Average web page now, no wonder why we need 4 GB+ machines to view shit) [03:09:03] Dragonfly6-7: Special:WhatLinksHere is ordered by page creation date, basically. [03:09:11] Dragonfly6-7: So if you go to the end of the list, you'll see the most recent pages. [03:09:14] Also, [03:09:17] True story. [03:09:41] Dragonfly6-7: Autoconfirmed is an implicit user group, not explicit. [03:09:44] It's a state of being. [03:09:47] And it can be revoked. [03:09:51] Gloria - I'm aware of that, thanks. [03:10:03] Right-o. [03:10:22] So you'd want to phrase it like "list of users with fewer than X edits and less than Y time since registration". [03:10:25] Or whatever. [03:10:37] Gloria - this particular stunt has been going on for a while. [03:10:42] As autoconfirmed means different things on different wikis. It's fluid. [03:10:47] The {{retired}} thing? [03:10:50] I've never heard of it. [03:11:00] I'll explain in msg [03:11:10] I'm not sure fucking with instrumentation is a bannable offense. [03:11:14] It sounds vaguely amusing. [03:13:05] It'd not likely to be bannable per se, but removing the noise from the dataset is something reasonable to do. Also, I dunno if it's more NOTHERE or POINT, but I doubt that's a good faith attempt to contribute. :-) [03:13:37] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Medinefort78 why is this user 'retired' ? From what? [03:20:44] Coren: Broadly, if anyone is relying on {{retired}}s on user pages to measure anything they're probably idiots. [03:21:32] That said, being an idiot doesn't preclude one from being in a position of influence [03:22:39] Sure. [03:24:13] hmm [03:24:18] did I use 'preclude' correctly? [03:24:30] You did. :-) [03:24:45] should there be a 'from' there [03:24:56] anyway [08:31:12] Coren: is https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54164 really fixed? [10:10:10] Change on 12mediawiki a page Wikimedia Labs/Tool Labs/List of Toolserver Tools was modified, changed by Silke WMDE link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=902896 edit summary: /* Active Tools on the Toolserver */ marked Bryan's tools as "planning to migrate" [10:12:46] Change on 12mediawiki a page Wikimedia Labs/Tool Labs/List of Toolserver Tools was modified, changed by Silke WMDE link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=902897 edit summary: /* Active Tools on the Toolserver */ Siebrand hasn't migrated yet [10:20:51] Hi, I get a "sudo: sorry, a password is required to run sudo" when I try to become any of my tools. Am I the only one? [10:21:29] Change on 12mediawiki a page Wikimedia Labs/Tool Labs/List of Toolserver Tools was modified, changed by Silke WMDE link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=902905 edit summary: moved several expired ones down to table of expired accounts [10:24:48] Change on 12mediawiki a page Wikimedia Labs/Tool Labs/List of Toolserver Tools was modified, changed by Silke WMDE link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=902909 edit summary: /* Inactive Tools on the Toolserver */ numbering [10:29:10] Darkdadaah: Did you just create it? What's its name? [10:30:03] scfc_de: no, old tools that I could access just yesterday. Tools: daahbot, anagrimes. [10:32:56] Darkdadaah: Ha! I removed some manual sudo rules yesterday (with high confidence that I wouldn't break anything because they're in LDAP). Lemme check if I'm the culprit. [10:33:56] *they're *also* in LDAP [10:37:28] Change on 12mediawiki a page Wikimedia Labs/Tool Labs/List of Toolserver Tools was modified, changed by Silke WMDE link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=902919 edit summary: /* Active Tools on the Toolserver */ updating status of magnus' tools [10:38:14] Yes! Guilty as charged. We mirror sudo rules at the moment in preparation for a change, and I found that there was *a* rule for anagrimes, but that was the future one and not the current. I'll add another, moment, please. [10:47:19] Darkdadaah: Try again? [10:47:45] anagrimes works, but not daahbot :/ [10:48:00] I do these one by one :-). Another Moment. [10:48:58] And again? [10:48:59] Change on 12mediawiki a page Wikimedia Labs/Tool Labs/List of Toolserver Tools was modified, changed by Silke WMDE link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=902928 edit summary: /* Active Tools on the Toolserver */ started to link bugzilla on magnus' tools [10:50:53] Only 1 tool doesn't work now: wiktioutils (I tested all the others) [10:51:59] Test now? [10:52:27] All right, everything is fine now, thanks! [10:52:49] Well, I broke, so ... :-) [10:54:15] Er wait, it doesn't work anymore :/ [10:54:29] Change on 12mediawiki a page Wikimedia Labs/Tool Labs/List of Toolserver Tools was modified, changed by Silke WMDE link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=902937 edit summary: /* Active Tools on the Toolserver */ linked BZ for magnus [10:54:39] I just disconnected, reconnected and I got the same errors again... [10:56:04] Only "daahbot", "anagrimes" and "wiktioutils" can't be accessed. [10:58:42] I'm an idiot. Puppet overwrote my hotfix. Wait a minute. [10:59:14] Ha. [11:02:49] Darkdadaah: Okay, ran Puppet, and the rules are still there. Works for you? [11:03:35] Change on 12mediawiki a page Wikimedia Labs/Tool Labs/List of Toolserver Tools was modified, changed by Silke WMDE link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=902943 edit summary: /* Active Tools on the Toolserver */ more bz links for magnus [11:04:21] Yes, it's ok now :-) [11:07:48] Puuh ... [11:19:03] Change on 12mediawiki a page Wikimedia Labs/Tool Labs/List of Toolserver Tools was modified, changed by Silke WMDE link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=902947 edit summary: /* Active Tools on the Toolserver */ added info on more of magnus' tools [11:38:02] Change on 12mediawiki a page Wikimedia Labs/Tool Labs/List of Toolserver Tools was modified, changed by Silke WMDE link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=903095 edit summary: moved migrated tools to a third table [12:45:10] Change on 12mediawiki a page Wikimedia Labs/Tool Labs/List of Toolserver Tools was modified, changed by Silke WMDE link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=903175 edit summary: updated more of magnus' tools [12:48:10] Krenair: Do you know if https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nova_Resource:Openstack is fully suitable for testing, i. e. there is an LDAP server to test against without risking too much? [13:00:54] !log tools Killed -HUP local-hawk-eye-bot's jobs; one was hanging with a stale NFS handle on tools-exec-05 [13:00:56] Logged the message, Master [13:01:47] Change on 12mediawiki a page Wikimedia Labs/Tool Labs/List of Toolserver Tools was modified, changed by Silke WMDE link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=903181 edit summary: more updates on magnus' tools [13:02:38] !log tools tools-login: rm -f /var/log/exim4/paniclog (OOM) [13:02:39] Logged the message, Master [13:06:31] Change on 12mediawiki a page Wikimedia Labs/Tool Labs/List of Toolserver Tools was modified, changed by Silke WMDE link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=903182 edit summary: added note on pathoschild's tools on top [13:24:07] sapm [13:24:11] *spam [13:27:19] matanya: Que? [13:27:22] Change on 12mediawiki a page Wikimedia Labs/Tool Labs/List of Toolserver Tools was modified, changed by Silke WMDE link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=903200 edit summary: /* Active Tools on the Toolserver */ started to add BZ to dungodung's tools [13:27:35] thw wm-bot spams the channel [13:27:39] *the [13:28:05] though, as a side note: thanks for setting up the meetbot! [13:28:27] Well, I consider it nice to see what's done on wiki in re Labs :-). [13:28:39] Has anyone used MeetBot since the announcement?! [13:37:28] Change on 12mediawiki a page Wikimedia Labs/Tool Labs/List of Toolserver Tools was modified, changed by Silke WMDE link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=903206 edit summary: /* Active Tools on the Toolserver */ more BZ for dungodung [13:41:41] Change on 12mediawiki a page Wikimedia Labs/Tool Labs/List of Toolserver Tools was modified, changed by Silke WMDE link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=903211 edit summary: /* Active Tools on the Toolserver */ more bz for dungodung [14:02:54] Change on 12mediawiki a page Wikimedia Labs/Tool Labs/Roadmap en was modified, changed by Silke WMDE link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=903216 edit summary: /* Schedule */ updating schedule [14:15:03] gah2Weig [14:18:30] * Silke_WMDE just added bugs that were already solved. :) [14:19:36] That sounds more like a password :-). [14:22:18] changed it m) I thought my screen was locked [15:07:20] Change on 12mediawiki a page Wikimedia Labs/Tool Labs/Roadmap en was modified, changed by Silke WMDE link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=903245 edit summary: /* Schedule */ updated schedule [15:10:05] Change on 12mediawiki a page Wikimedia Labs/Tool Labs/Roadmap en was modified, changed by Silke WMDE link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=903246 edit summary: /* Schedule */ reset discussion of OSM requirements back to "doing", deleted some outdated stuff [15:12:14] Change on 12mediawiki a page Wikimedia Labs/Tool Labs/Roadmap en was modified, changed by Silke WMDE link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=903247 edit summary: /* Schedule */ updated table [15:42:20] geohack seems to be down. [15:44:33] There don't seem to be newer logs than Dec 23? [15:47:18] !log tools Restarted webservice for geohack [15:47:20] Logged the message, Master [17:40:26] scfc_de: can the check_command check_nrpe!check_disk_5_2 in https://github.com/DamianZaremba/labsnagiosbuilder/blob/master/labsnagiosbuilder/templates/classes/base.cfg be removed? [17:42:06] matanya: Isn't this the free space check for Labs instances? (In that case: We shouldn't remove that.) petan, Damianz: Can you comment? [17:42:38] if it is i would much prepfer if it would use the nrpe module [17:48:34] matanya: The setup on Labs is different from the one on production (and petan and Damianz currently working on that IIRC), so it may not be easily changeable at the moment. But I don't know the specifics. [17:48:40] scfc_de: youe meetbot is in use right now in -office [17:49:03] ok, thanks. i'll track it [18:54:06] liangent: Hm. I'm pretty sure it was; I'll have to check it tomorrow (I'm travelling atm, and on my iPad, so I can pretty much only do emergency interventions) [21:55:44] !log deployment-prep update elasticsearch schema after recent changes. will run a links update as well [21:55:45] Logged the message, Master