[00:15:44] <wikibugs>	 3Tool Labs tools / 3[other]: enwp10 tool is down - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66565 (10phoebe) 3NEW p:3Unprio s:3normal a:3None The tool http://tools.wmflabs.org/enwp10/ is not working. All of the assessments in WikiProjects on the English Wikipedia depend on this tool (for instance, see https:...
[00:24:12] <wikibugs>	 3Wikimedia Labs / 3tools: Move wiki.toolserver.org to WMF - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60220#c31 (10MZMcBride) (In reply to Silke Meyer (WMDE) from comment #28) > * We questioned the importance of keeping the wiki again if no one has the > resources to move it somewhere. > * If no one does, we'll keep...
[00:28:58] <wm-bot>	 Change on 12mediawiki a page Wikimedia Labs was modified, changed by Ьуяффф link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=1034972 edit summary: [+192] +%^#@БОЛТ
[00:38:54] <Gloria>	 What.
[00:39:46] <Gloria>	 I think he's trying to translate.
[00:39:48] <Gloria>	 Maybe.
[00:39:50] <Gloria>	 Weird.
[00:42:40] <mutante>	 Gloria: yea, looks like translation.. but...
[00:45:54] <Gloria>	 I still haven't moved most of my code off the Toolserver.
[00:45:58] <Gloria>	 Hmmm.
[00:49:07] <mwalker>	 anyone around in here that can create a new labs project for me?
[00:49:45] <mutante>	 mwalker: what would it be for?
[00:49:47] <YuviPanda>	 Gloria: when's it shutting down?
[00:50:02] <mutante>	 i just saw all the DNS entries for toolserver and wondered the same
[00:50:06] <mwalker>	 mutante, "services" :p gwicke and I want to have a play space for the service team
[00:50:09] <mutante>	 there was an announcement
[00:50:11] <Gloria>	 End of this month, I think.
[00:50:13] <Gloria>	 June 30, 2014?
[00:50:33] <Gloria>	 YuviPanda: ^
[00:50:40] <YuviPanda>	 hmm, not too far off
[00:50:45] <mutante>	 usually projects are named after software that runs in them
[00:51:04] <mwalker>	 aye -- the thing that's instigating this request is we want to have a zotero server to play with
[00:51:11] <YuviPanda>	 from now on services won't be running on any other project!
[00:51:14] <mwalker>	 but I figure we'll have more requests like this
[00:51:22] <mwalker>	 YuviPanda, no! they're all mine :D
[00:51:31] * mwalker laughs evilly
[00:51:37] <YuviPanda>	 mwalker: :D no more 'service nginx restart' for me? 
[00:51:42] * YuviPanda starts compiling things by hand
[00:51:57] <mutante>	 mwalker: would it be fine with you if i just make "zotero" and any other you want later?
[00:52:00] <mwalker>	 you still have to start it somehow!
[00:52:21] <mwalker>	 mutante, sure; if we're going down that road though, make it a wee bit more generic and call it citation-service
[00:52:22] <YuviPanda>	 mutante: calling it 'services' seems ok...
[00:53:29] <gwicke>	 mutante: we'll have some more of that breed soon
[00:53:46] <mutante>	 sigh, i guess, i cant recommend doing those generic test projects per team
[00:53:51] <gwicke>	 also, currently those app-based projects are often pretty misleading
[00:53:55] <mutante>	 i wont block it either though
[00:54:10] <YuviPanda>	 mutante: 'mobile' exists :)
[00:54:12] <mutante>	 just know that you are excluding volunteers
[00:54:12] <gwicke>	 VisualEditor for example runs all kinds of stuff but VE ;)
[00:54:13] <YuviPanda>	 mutante: and so does 'design'
[00:54:21] <mutante>	 yes, others do it wrong as well :p
[00:54:36] <gwicke>	 why has the name an influence on volunteers?
[00:54:38] <mutante>	 since we are ok with phab in project gerrit it doesnt matter :p
[00:54:39] <YuviPanda>	 mutante: I don't think that's a fact, though. it is just grouping by area...
[00:54:42] <mwalker>	 mutante, this is actually so a volunteer who is working on this particular problem has a space to work in :p
[00:54:59] <mwalker>	 so are you worried that people wont give project admin to volunteers?
[00:55:11] <mwalker>	 or that it's non discoverable?
[00:57:10] <mwalker>	 for discoverability purposes I'm totally fine with having a project per "project / service" -- just means I'll eventually end up with a collection of them
[00:57:58] <mutante>	 next time somebody asks where to test the zotero software, they - wont' find it, - there is going to be other stuff in it, - nobody knows if it's ok to add them because it's a "play area" for a team 
[00:58:25] <mutante>	 but i'm not blocking it.. hold on.. need to get 2factor
[00:58:55] <gwicke>	 the instance can be called citations.wmflabs.org or the like
[01:00:20] <mutante>	 relation between the word services and a "personal research assistant"?
[01:00:59] <gwicke>	 what's the latter about?
[01:01:13] <gwicke>	 ah, zotero
[01:01:24] <gwicke>	 we use some code from that project for screen scraping citation data
[01:01:47] <gwicke>	 this is about a web service that responds to a URL with a citation derived from that URL
[01:05:20] <mutante>	 you are going to reuse this project for all kinds of things.. but i give up :)
[01:05:31] <mutante>	 !log services - created project with mwalker,gwicke admins
[01:05:33] <labs-morebots>	 Logged the message, Master
[01:06:01] <gwicke>	 mutante: is there much discovery going on based on project names?
[01:06:05] <mwalker>	 hehe; thanks mutante :D
[01:06:27] <gwicke>	 & thanks indeed ;)
[01:06:31] <mutante>	 nobody cares, please just update red link on https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nova_Resource:Services
[01:08:18] * YuviPanda gives mutante some soma
[01:11:51] <gwicke>	 mutante: link updated
[01:12:53] <mutante>	 thx
[01:24:19] <mutante>	 !log osm4wiki - project created with Plenz as admin (per request on wiki)
[01:24:21] <labs-morebots>	 Logged the message, Master
[01:27:23] <mutante>	 !log persona - project created - admin Parent5446  (per request on wiki)
[01:27:24] <labs-morebots>	 persona is not a valid project.
[01:27:48] <mutante>	 labs-morebots well, it should be, i see it in project filter :p
[01:27:48] <labs-morebots>	 I am a logbot running on tools-exec-09.
[01:27:48] <labs-morebots>	 Messages are logged to wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Server_Admin_Log.
[01:27:48] <labs-morebots>	 To log a message, type !log <msg>.
[01:33:44] <mutante>	 !log persona - project created - admin Parent5446  (per request on wiki)
[01:33:45] <labs-morebots>	 Logged the message, Master
[01:41:48] <YuviPanda>	 !python
[01:41:48] <wm-bot>	 There are multiple keys, refine your input: pythonguy, pythonwalkthrough, 
[01:51:40] <mutante>	 !log propertysuggester - project created - admin Virginia.weidhaas 
[01:51:43] <labs-morebots>	 Logged the message, Master
[01:53:09] <YuviPanda>	 mutante: lol. propertysuggester is scheduled to be deployed on cluster in July :D
[01:53:54] <mutante>	 they probably tested in project test :)
[01:54:06] <YuviPanda>	 mutante: :D
[01:54:07] <mutante>	 yea, that queue is too long
[01:54:08] <YuviPanda>	 mutante: or wikidata
[01:55:17] <mutante>	 should i create the one requested in 2012?
[01:55:24] <mutante>	 TitleBlacklist
[01:55:54] <YuviPanda>	 mutante: that's been deployed for a while as well, I think
[01:57:09] <mutante>	 sigh
[01:57:51] <mutante>	 easier to delete though:)
[01:58:24] <YuviPanda>	 mutante: :D yeah, assuming that creating a project does nothing otehr than give them rights to create instances, I'd say just create it :)
[02:01:02] <mutante>	 !log projectblacklist - project created - admin Techman224 - as requested on wiki 
[02:01:04] <labs-morebots>	 Logged the message, Master
[02:01:50] <mutante>	 and wrong name.. what am i doing :p
[02:03:23] <mutante>	 the actual one already exists
[02:05:51] <YuviPanda>	 !ping
[02:05:51] <wm-bot>	 !pong
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[05:49:12] <wikibugs>	 3Wikimedia Labs / 3tools: Move wiki.toolserver.org to WMF - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60220#c32 (10Nemo) (In reply to MZMcBride from comment #31) > I might be able to help write such a bot if it's not trivial.  As I already said multiple times, it is: dumpgenenerator.py --api=http://wiki.toolserver.or...
[07:39:56] <Krinkle>	 l /var/lib/puppet/state/agent_catalog_run.lock
[07:39:56] <Krinkle>	 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Jun 12 01:53 /var/lib/puppet/state/agent_catalog_run.lock
[07:40:06] <Krinkle>	 _joe_: Looks like the machine was rebooted around that time
[07:41:02] <Krinkle>	 https://gist.githubusercontent.com/Krinkle/8b0ccaa19ec52c9d3d6a/raw
[07:41:08] <Krinkle>	 I guess it doesn't account for that
[07:41:20] <_joe_>	 yeah so, classic race condition, puppet not reponding to SIGTERM and thus being murdered with SIGKILL
[07:41:35] <_joe_>	 that leaves every resource 'dirty' on the system
[07:41:41] <Krinkle>	 I feel like I want to not find out about this 2 days later when trying to apply a role
[07:41:56] <Krinkle>	 :)
[07:42:07] <_joe_>	 well in prod we have guards for that
[07:42:11] <Krinkle>	 puppet health is incinga, not ganglia right?
[07:42:14] <_joe_>	 in the form of very annoying icinga pages
[07:42:16] <Krinkle>	 It should haeve that
[07:42:19] <Krinkle>	 Yeah, I know them.
[07:42:24] <Krinkle>	 :D
[07:42:37] <_joe_>	 it's not perfectly implemented, but "it works"
[07:42:57] <Krinkle>	 http://icinga.wmflabs.org/cgi-bin/icinga/status.cgi?hostgroup=cvn&style=detail
[07:43:09] <Krinkle>	 "Service is not scheduled to be checked... "
[07:43:11] <Krinkle>	 a
[07:43:29] <_joe_>	 oh I know nothing about labs icinga sorry
[07:47:20] <Krinkle>	 I'll file a bug
[07:48:44] <wikibugs>	 3Wikimedia Labs / 3Infrastructure: Labs: Enable "Puppet freshness" checks in icinga for cvn project - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/66573 (10Krinkle) 3NEW p:3Unprio s:3normal a:3None http://icinga.wmflabs.org/cgi-bin/icinga/status.cgi?hostgroup=cvn&style=detail  One of my instances was outdated fo...
[08:26:56] <hashar>	 _joe_: good morning. By any chance do you have any idea how to manually add a user in LDAP ? :)
[08:27:15] <hashar>	 Coren / Andrew usually do it for me but they are obviously still sleeping
[08:27:30] <hashar>	 the reason is to have the same UID/GID across instances for a given user
[08:27:35] <hashar>	 paravoid: ^^^ (in case you are around)
[08:27:42] <_joe_>	 hashar: Coren is on leave
[08:27:47] <hashar>	 oh
[08:27:59] <_joe_>	 hashar: I'm not very confident with our ldap structure sorry
[08:28:06] <hashar>	 I can understand :)
[08:28:18] <_joe_>	 it will take me ~1 hour to find out how it's built