[16:03:22] <MaxSem>	 hmm, is Tomasz expected today?
[16:05:08] <Reedy>	 i know it's a bank holiday today in australia, but I don't think it is in the US
[16:05:52] <Reedy>	 He is, however, marked as out of office from the 22nd to the 28th
[16:06:18] <MaxSem>	 so I shouldn't expect him
[16:46:03] <petan>	 @regsearch .
[16:46:03] <wm-bot>	 No results found! :|
[17:39:09] <tfinc>	 greetings all
[17:39:40] <yuvipanda>	 hello
[17:39:47] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: nice mini vacation?
[17:40:56] <tfinc>	 not bad. I'm going to work for bit this morning and then drive back to sf in the afternoon
[17:41:23] <tfinc>	 back full steam tomorrow
[17:41:37] <tfinc>	 how are things?
[17:42:21] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: pretty good, I guess.
[17:42:25] <yuvipanda>	 working on near me stuff now
[17:43:14] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33361 and https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33362 doesn't make sense. Close?
[17:43:23] <tfinc>	 let me see
[17:43:59] <tfinc>	 i don't think that really useful
[17:44:36] <tfinc>	 its a visual navigation. not a list
[17:44:54] <tfinc>	 would just be clutter
[17:44:55] <yuvipanda>	 +1
[17:45:04] <yuvipanda>	 and really, nothing that the dedicated back key won't solve
[17:45:05] <tfinc>	 philinje: hey there
[17:45:25] <philinje>	 hey
[17:47:16] * tfinc  pulls a fresh copy of the app

[17:47:43] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: don't think anything's changed after fri :P
[17:48:02] <tfinc>	 i expect massive changes .. lol
[17:48:12] <MaxSem>	 tfinc, PM
[17:48:16] <tfinc>	 i saw some bug activity
[17:48:31] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: let's nuke the repo, would be massive
[17:48:37] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: yeah, i've fixed one on a branch.
[17:48:42] <yuvipanda>	 not in master.
[17:48:51] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: needs a bit more discussion before it can go in
[17:49:13] <tfinc>	 how did the java work go?
[17:49:40] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: that 'info window click area too small' one?
[17:49:42] <yuvipanda>	 that was fixed
[17:49:59] <yuvipanda>	 and yeah, Java is irritating (coming from C#/Python land) but I'll get used to it. Can't be worse than PHP :P
[17:51:51] <tfinc>	 doesn't look fixed in the emu . let me try it on device
[17:51:53] <philinje>	 should be better than PHP
[17:52:21] <philinje>	 preparing for Skype call
[17:52:31] <tfinc>	 thanks philinje
[17:54:02] <tfinc>	 dial me in and ill just be on mute
[17:59:45] <tfinc>	 nice and fast :)
[17:59:49] <tfinc>	 philinje: check your pm's
[17:59:57] <tfinc>	 patrick will be back tomorrow
[17:59:59] <tfinc>	 he's out today
[18:00:10] <tfinc>	 he mailed me this morning
[18:00:20] * tfinc  wonders who to believe pchang or philinje 

[18:00:22] <tfinc>	 :)
[18:00:55] <yuvipanda>	 :D
[18:01:31] <pchang>	 i registered philinje, which is my usual nickname everywhere
[18:01:44] <tfinc>	 nice
[18:01:55] <tfinc>	 pchang: did you see my pm's .. i'll resend if you didnt
[18:01:59] <tfinc>	 t
[18:05:42] <pchang>	 replied
[18:06:56] <yuvipanda>	 pchang: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33362 and https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33361
[18:06:58] <yuvipanda>	 seem pointless to me
[18:08:08] <pchang>	 On 33361, we need to ask Tomasz
[18:08:25] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: ^
[18:08:29] <pchang>	 33362 makes sense to me
[18:08:55] <pchang>	 take a look at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mobile_Projects/WikipediaMobileAndroidFeedback
[18:09:26] <pchang>	 halfway down "Issues"
[18:10:30] <pchang>	 anyway, it would be another button for the menu
[18:10:46] <yuvipanda>	 well, shouldn't we just program the 'back' button to take them back to the app?
[18:11:10] <pchang>	 yes, at minimum - is that not the case right now?
[18:11:25] <yuvipanda>	 i am assuming it would
[18:11:33] <yuvipanda>	 so why press menu -> close when people acn just hit 'back'?
[18:12:04] <pchang>	 perhaps it's not working, which is why someone complained
[18:12:17] <pchang>	 menu seems more reliable
[18:12:55] <pchang>	 but Nearby is also a separate mode
[18:13:18] <yuvipanda>	 pchang: let me check
[18:22:11] <tfinc>	 back
[18:22:58] <tfinc>	 is the map back button not working for somebody?
[18:23:02] <tfinc>	 it works great for me
[18:23:13] <tfinc>	 its just not clear for some new android users
[18:23:17] <tfinc>	 as far as i can tell
[18:24:00] <pchang>	 somebody complained on the feedback page
[18:24:50] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda: are you seeing a 'Description	Resource	Path	Location	Type
[18:24:51] <tfinc>	 ClickableDialog cannot be resolved to a type	WikiItemizedOverlay.java	/wikipedia-android/src/org/wikipedia	line 55	Java Problem
[18:24:51] <tfinc>	 ' when compiling the app ?
[18:24:58] <tfinc>	 pchang: how goes testing the rss feeds ?
[18:25:46] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: compiling with eclipse?
[18:25:51] <tfinc>	 yes
[18:26:08] <tfinc>	 it showed up after i cleaned the project
[18:26:31] <tfinc>	 as the first apk that i made did not fix the problem
[18:26:35] <tfinc>	 so i did a project clean
[18:26:51] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: can you see a ClickableDialog.java file?
[18:27:13] <tfinc>	 new file ?
[18:27:28] <tfinc>	 no.. i have it
[18:27:39] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: weird, did a project refresh?
[18:27:42] <tfinc>	 public class ClickableDialog extends Dialog {
[18:27:49] <tfinc>	 yup
[18:27:54] <yuvipanda>	 let me check
[18:29:53] <pchang>	 found another bug in Nearby
[18:31:59] <pchang>	 tfinc: did you send some info about RSS?
[18:32:28] <tfinc>	 pchang: i was asking about how testing of rss was going? did we stage it on labs? have kul and amit looked at it ?
[18:32:29] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: hmm, works for me
[18:32:41] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda: let me delete the project and start a new one
[18:32:48] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: okay
[18:33:27] <tfinc>	 worked fine this time. i hate eclipse
[18:33:31] <pchang>	 tfinc: I wasn't following the staging of RSS, let me know if you want me to bug someone, etc
[18:33:48] <tfinc>	 MaxSem: did you manage to get the rss feeds setup on labs ?
[18:33:57] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: :D
[18:34:03] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: I do my work on vim + commandline
[18:34:05] <yuvipanda>	 works great :D
[18:36:45] <tfinc>	 new build seems better
[18:36:49] <tfinc>	 exporting and signing it now
[18:37:33] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: btw, I don't think you can create a 'passwordless' keystore.
[18:37:38] <yuvipanda>	 that's what I gathered from reading docs
[18:38:05] <pchang>	 tfinc: i will follow up with Max
[18:38:15] <pchang>	 back in a bit
[18:41:35] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda: new build is much better
[18:41:39] <tfinc>	 eclipse for the fail
[18:41:42] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: :D
[18:41:55] <yuvipanda>	 ant debug install on the commandline works great, and always has
[18:44:21] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda: here is a fun bug. we drop the pins every time someone taps a point on the map
[18:44:23] <tfinc>	 let me file a bug
[18:44:31] <yuvipanda>	 wah
[18:44:34] * yuvipanda  checks

[18:45:35] <tfinc>	 bug filed https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33389
[18:45:58] <tfinc>	 pchang: please prioritize as needed
[18:46:37] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda: i think the new touch area is overzealous
[18:46:51] <tfinc>	 i can't tell how far it goes but it stretches outside of the box
[18:46:53] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: yes, you touch wherever...
[18:46:54] <yuvipanda>	 outside?
[18:47:01] <yuvipanda>	 shouldn't
[18:47:06] <tfinc>	 well
[18:47:15] <tfinc>	 my thinking is that if you tap outside of the box .. you should go to the map
[18:48:07] <tfinc>	 so that you can tap on another pin
[18:48:12] <tfinc>	 you can certainly tap the back button
[18:48:20] <tfinc>	 but .. wouldn't it be nice to just tap the map to go back to it
[18:48:24] <tfinc>	 and select another pin?
[18:48:29] <yuvipanda>	 well, what happens if you tap outside?
[18:49:43] <tfinc>	 goes back to the map
[18:49:52] * tfinc  goes to see what yelp does

[18:51:01] <tfinc>	 if you tap on another article while in the preview they show you a new preview. otherwise they dismiss the current previous and show you the map
[18:51:06] <tfinc>	 i think that works smoother
[18:51:52] <yuvipanda>	 hmm
[18:52:39] <yuvipanda>	 so we'd need to trap the touch event and figure out if there's a pin under it
[18:53:32] <tfinc>	 doesnt that seem like a better experience though? being able to stay on the map focuses you much better
[18:54:02] <tfinc>	 the back button seems like unnecessary work for me
[18:55:07] <MaxSem>	 tfinc, not yet: there was no one yesterday to help me out, and today they've just awoke:)
[18:55:16] <tfinc>	 slackers
[18:55:17] <tfinc>	 :)
[18:55:30] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: hmm, let me see what I can do
[18:55:48] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda: noodle on it and let know
[18:56:18] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: sure.
[18:58:14] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: pchang https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33361 close?
[18:58:31] <tfinc>	 ok .. time to play taxi for my sister .. bbiab
[18:58:41] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: heh k
[18:58:53] * tfinc  the joys of being the older sibling

[19:07:59] <pchang>	 bug 33389 is pretty much the same bug I was seeing so I just added a comment to it
[19:11:55] <pchang>	 bug 33389 is pretty much the same bug I was seeing so I just added a comment to it
[20:16:10] <MaxSem>	 mhm, FF setup on labs done
[20:17:37] <MaxSem>	 tfinc, do you want to have a look?
[21:41:58] <tfinc>	 MaxSem: sure. link please
[21:43:46] <MaxSem>	 tfinc, it's not publicly visible: log in into bastionm then ssh <username>@bastion.wmflabs.org -L 8080:mobile-feeds:80
[21:44:15] <MaxSem>	 eh, not log in, just use that command
[21:44:33] <MaxSem>	 it will be available at http://localhost:8080/w/index.php/Special:RecentChanges
[21:48:06] <tfinc>	 i'lll have to fix the key that i have on labs as its not letting me in
[21:48:08] <tfinc>	 but thats my issue
[21:48:10] <tfinc>	 :)
[21:51:22] <MaxSem>	 tfinc, when you'll resolve that problem, just take a look at the main page
[21:51:34] <tfinc>	 will do
[21:52:46] <MaxSem>	 the feed is also in page headers, along with the useless RC feed (why do we have it at all?)
[21:53:44] <MaxSem>	 if someone wants to play with its API, there's ApiSandbox:)
[21:54:23] <MaxSem>	 so, to set things up on-wiki, I needed just to create http://localhost:8080/w/index.php/MediaWiki:Ffeed-fa-page
[22:36:27] <tfinc>	 will do
[22:36:29] <tfinc>	 time to drive back to sf
[22:36:35] <tfinc>	 regular schedule for me tomorrow
[22:47:07] <pchang>	 sorry, i have to leave early - my wife is sick and needs some help with our daughter
[22:51:44] <yuvipanda>	 pchang: ough, take care.
[22:52:36] <pchang>	 cu later
[23:54:32] <yuvipanda>	 gnite everyone