[01:23:46] happy new year, all, i am back next Tuesday [01:24:27] seeya philinje [17:59:11] greetings all [18:03:55] tfinc, lemme start the quiz [18:05:14] 1) are we going to work with coordinates anywhere else but Earth? current {{coord}} templates and GeoHack support coordinates on Moon, for example [18:06:16] the moon! [18:09:18] hmm [18:09:56] patrick needs to be able to plan his summer trip to mars :) [18:10:02] lol [18:10:12] whats the difficulty in supporting those ? [18:11:36] in terms of inter operability with other geo projects id say we should [18:12:04] not really difficult, but it will increase index demands, as it's something every request will be filtered for [18:13:17] lets keep it for now [18:13:30] okay [18:14:02] 2) are there plans for geo-related UI? [18:15:02] MaxSem: its first use cases would be in the mobile app [18:15:28] which already has a ui [18:15:37] we'd replace the existing genomes.org service [18:15:45] but I need to consider this possibility when designing internal APIs [18:16:09] i know but we'll never know all of the ui's that will use it [18:16:14] that is, I'm asking about Special:GeoSearch and friends [18:18:44] i see this more as a backed service rather then any fancy special page. the special page would like be pretty simp. its api would be more important [18:18:55] okay [18:19:04] as apps, extensions, etc would be connecting to it [18:19:23] but do we intend to replace GeoHack completely eventually? [18:19:33] in order to keep it simple lets make our first use case be replacing geonames.org for the android/iphone app [18:19:48] good question [18:20:13] my qualm with geohack is that i'm tired of having to go to the tool server for all of the data [18:20:18] id rather see in prod databases [18:20:22] as would other peopel [18:20:26] what can we re-use from geohack ? [18:21:04] page with links to different mapping services (not for mobile users, of course) [18:22:31] MaxSem: so, will we support mercury, venus, moon, mars, phobos, deimos, ceres, vesta, ganymede, callisto, io, europa, mimas, enceladus, tethys, dione, rhea, titan, hyperion, iapetus, phoebe, miranda, ariel, umbriel, titania, oberon, triton, and pluto? [18:23:00] really .. pluto .. come on .. thats not a real planet [18:23:34] tfinc: we should support planets, dwarf planets, asteroids, and natural satellites [18:23:59] * preilly thinks tfinc is a planetist [18:24:32] do black holes eat GPS coordinate ? [18:24:43] because we'll have problems mapping them if so.... [18:26:06] sure, we can use data from our large array of radio telescopes spread across the Pacific ocean to measure high energy emissions that are ejected from areas inside the galaxy… and map that out [18:26:47] actually … i thought we could just use the array of cellphones that wikimedia owns [18:26:54] we should be able to see something with how many we have [18:27:01] tfinc: ha ha [18:32:56] now... how our parser tag for coordinates should be called? currently, it's {{#coordinate}}, I guess it should at least be made plural? any other objections? [18:33:26] no [18:33:29] nope [18:35:18] ...but it should be called {{#coordinates}} right? [18:36:56] seems logical [18:37:09] okayyyy [18:39:39] funnily, the wiki that has most geotags has an ugly ancient template system which encodes some important information in the most stupid way like key1:value1_key2:value2_key3:value3 [18:40:06] wow [18:42:10] guess what wiki it is? [18:42:26] MaxSem: english wikipedia? [18:42:39] exactly [18:42:46] ha ha [18:43:09] Germans seem to have a saner way, just made everything a separate param [18:43:25] please kill it now [18:43:39] what, enwiki? [18:44:15] ha ha ha [18:44:19] lol [18:44:23] yeah, no one really uses that anymore [18:44:32] its soooo last year [18:45:34] but English Wikipedia is the wiki of wikis! everyone steals templates from them [18:45:45] PITA grows exponentially [18:45:52] sounds too meta to me [18:46:04] MaxSem: do we really want these templates to be spread [18:46:07] :D [18:46:43] um, there's just something like 30 of them [18:58:26] what's the policy about contractors' holidays? [18:59:41] I've just taken it as don't work => don't get paid [19:02:38] funnily, I still don't have access to the office wiki [19:02:48] Haha [19:03:16] Tomasz needs to OK it, then someone creates your account [19:03:23] MaxSem, Go ask HR what you makes you staff or not. That's a good discussion [19:03:40] staff vs employee vs whatever [19:04:10] HR pointed me at a reading list on that wiki [19:05:53] It's either office IT, or find someone with rights to do it [19:08:49] MaxSem: wow . IT is slaking [19:08:49] i filed that ticket last wek [19:09:03] let me pull up the ticket [19:19:27] ROFL [19:19:27] Resolved: Office wiki account for Max Semenik 10:51AM [19:19:27] MaxSem: did you get an email from them about office wiki ? [19:19:49] * tfinc watches the net split go [19:30:46] i swear we got more people to rejoin then were in here before :D [19:31:55] ha [19:33:40] * tfinc tries to see if he can sneak in a poland trip in between fosdem and gnuify [19:36:27] nice [20:27:43] tfinc: I'll be seeing you guys at fodem [20:27:51] *fosdem too [20:27:51] awesome [20:27:58] your talk got picked up? [20:28:05] I put in for a talk, hopefully it is accepted [20:28:10] sweet [20:28:13] I'm going either way, though [20:28:19] who else is coming from the ops team? [20:28:24] probably no one [20:28:26] Ryan_Lane: have you ever been to brussles ? [20:28:29] nope [20:28:45] oh we'll have some fun [20:28:49] ask awjr :D [20:53:50] how could we possibly have fun in a city where belgian beer is copious, cheap, and legal to drink in the street? [21:06:28] I think it'll be hard [22:30:57] Ryan_Lane: your missing out on beignets [22:31:02] om nom nom [22:32:55] heh [22:33:02] yeah. I saw that email :) [22:33:48] thankfully I can go get some at cafe du monde \o/ [22:37:37] nice [22:37:50] Ryan_Lane: are you going to bring back anything tasty for us? [22:37:52] * tfinc hopes so [22:38:00] pralines, yeah [22:38:05] easiest thing to bring back [22:38:15] most other things are cooked and wouldn't taste right :) [22:38:17] too bad svetlana is mia .. with her southern food craving she would love these [22:38:43] yeah. she would [22:39:38] Ryan_Lane: do you have root on sfo-virtual1 ? [22:39:45] nope [22:39:47] peter gehres is asking ? [22:39:54] office it did [22:40:01] I hope they still do :) [22:40:33] i have no clue. peter will have to figure i tout [22:41:21] Ryan_Lane: LOL so the yelp page for the place that Tina got these http://www.yelp.com/biz/just-for-you-cafe-san-francisco .. has this add "comCafé Du Monde® Beignets [22:41:21] Order cafe au lait, beignets, gifts from the French Market coffee stand" [22:42:16] :D [22:42:34] ah. just for you. I've been there [22:42:51] those beignets are good, but aren't quite the same as cafe du monde [22:44:45] i must try those some time then [22:46:04] whenever you go to new orleans, you should try them for sure [22:46:11] they are crispier than the just you for ones [22:46:39] maybe after/before wikimania next year [22:46:40] both are good, they're just a little different :) [23:41:30] preilly: this was certainly the top of his career http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tv_muppet_show_john_cleese.jpg [23:53:18] holy shit the dog on the deck above me just started barking like he was gonna kill someone and it scared the hell out of me [23:53:27] my heart is racing 5000 miles per hour [23:58:37] jorm: are you sure that isn't just from the new year's blow? [23:59:24] not new year's yet. [23:59:32] jorm: ha ha