[00:02:30] [WikipediaMobile] brion pushed 3 new commits to master: http://git.io/F3f7Rg [00:02:30] [WikipediaMobile/master] Revert "enable pinch-to-zoom in iscroll; seems to work on ICS but not on 2.x" - Brion Vibber [00:02:30] [WikipediaMobile/master] Revert "use iscroll4!" - Brion Vibber [00:02:30] [WikipediaMobile/master] Merge branch 'div' - Brion Vibber [00:02:31] ok let's try this :D [00:02:43] Project WikipediaMobile - Nightly builds build #54: SUCCESS in 6.5 sec: http://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/WikipediaMobile%20-%20Nightly%20builds/54/ [00:02:44] * brion: Fix saved pages for div-world [00:02:44] * brion: partial fix for error pages -- we get the text now, but seem to be missing gfx [00:02:45] * brion: in progress: size adjustment update [00:02:45] * brion: set initial font size at startup [00:02:46] * brion: add some padding back on the div [00:02:46] * brion: style fixes: drop some unneeded styles, fix font size in rest of app [00:02:47] * brion: fix size on footers [00:02:47] * brion: Revert "enable pinch-to-zoom in iscroll; seems to work on ICS but not on 2.x" [00:02:48] * brion: Revert "use iscroll4!" [00:02:56] yuvipanda, ok this one looks right [00:02:57] adjustFontSize: function(size) { [00:02:57] var frameDoc = $("#main"); [00:02:58] $('#main').css('font-size', fontOptions[size]); [00:02:58] }, [00:08:18] okay [00:08:23] brion: should i just, uh, copy paste? [00:08:26] oh wait [00:08:32] you pushed. [00:08:45] lotta moving work is out :( [00:09:32] brion: what exactly happened? [00:10:19] yuvipanda, i just pulled the wrong branch :) [00:10:36] had to undo two commits, then pull the rest from the other branch [00:10:41] brion: ah, okay :) [00:10:46] so iscroll isn't actually reverted [00:10:48] 33202 isn't fixed [00:10:48] but only sortof. [00:11:01] well it is reverted because i pulled it in by mistake :) [00:11:22] brion: ah, so we aren't using iscroll? [00:11:54] no not yet [00:11:55] lols like not [00:11:56] it's too slow [00:11:57] okay [00:12:11] bogged down really bad on my nexus 1, so it would be heeeelllllllaaaaa slow on yours :D [00:12:28] i like it though, hope to use it if we can improve speed in future [00:12:34] dividng up sections should help [00:12:41] My magic runs 2.2 (i think) reaaaaaally slowly [00:13:15] i'm sure mine will win 'slowest device' award hands down [00:13:16] :) [00:13:48] Go on? :p [00:14:08] it's a galaxy 3 :P [00:14:17] it's gps doesn't work with 2.2 and works only with 2.1 [00:14:25] atleast I don't have a resisitive screen [00:14:39] and reddit has compltely spoilt what 'go on' means to me. gah! [00:14:44] Pffft [00:14:50] My magic has a slower processor and less ram [00:15:08] hey your GPS works! [00:15:13] I think [00:15:36] you wouldn't spend 4 hours walking in circles in the wrong direction while 500m away from your house [00:15:52] I could probably see my house from 500m away ;) [00:16:13] outskirts of bangalore, congested small lanes [00:16:17] and I had just moved there [00:16:24] Xoom is so much better though with it's barometer [00:16:32] gets almost instant gps fix [00:16:51] yuvipanda, try whatever the chinese have just put into space ;) [00:17:02] that's out too [00:17:26] i'm waiting for us indians to build something and put that into space. [00:17:37] should probably work after hitting refresh 5 times while not using the back button [00:55:21] brion: have moved a few things. Didn't want to move *all* of main.js to app.js. [00:55:41] brion: also, we're mixing binding to events in code vs html. I'll standardize on binding to them in one place, in code. [01:03:50] brion: gave a pull req. Not much. am off to sleep now. [01:03:51] gnite [01:09:39] night! [01:09:41] sounds good [01:52:30] * tfinc rends back scroll from earlier [01:52:39] woot on fixing the merge [01:52:53] are we stable enough for me to try a build? [01:53:01] brion: --^ [01:53:19] you can try it dude [01:53:25] sweet [01:53:34] * tfinc goes to pull from trunk [01:55:50] lovely me emu is still in arabic. this will be fun [01:57:39] hehehe [02:12:55] preilly: have we gotten any ips from kul and amit ? [02:19:40] i already dislike the new icon [02:19:49] old icon was better [02:22:12] tfinc: not that I know of [02:22:32] besides the ips. what other dev needs to happen for the first public test ? [02:23:07] wow … @wikimedia gmail is showing me an add for google apps telling me to get my company to switch to it [02:23:11] AD FAIL [02:25:09] tfinc: just a few small design tweaks really [02:29:27] so we've deployed all the changes are are code complete ? [02:29:34] minus the design changes of course [03:05:02] [wikipedia-iphone] preillyme pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/zAc7dA [03:05:02] [wikipedia-iphone/master] Custom HTTP headers for every request made in UIWebViews - Patrick Reilly [03:06:51] tfinc: no we still need to deploy [03:07:11] tfinc: also, I've made changes to RC2 of iOS application [03:07:18] tfinc: I think we will want to build a new version [03:10:32] tfinc: the search bar wasn't working correctly [04:15:01] preilly: k, lets talk about them tomorrow [15:40:48] how can I use the nightly builds on my phone? [15:43:23] hexmode, manually download and install them [15:43:32] AFAIK there's no automated way to do update them [15:47:42] Reedy: ok, but where are the apk files produced? That's what I don't know. [15:48:00] * hexmode is trying to get reedy to lmgtfy [15:48:09] http://integration.mediawiki.org/WikipediaMobile/nightly/ [15:48:23] http://integration.mediawiki.org/WikipediaMobile/nightly/Wikipedia_latest.apk [15:48:36] heh ... just found that in my awesomebar [15:48:54] thanks firefox and bugzilla and reedy [17:59:31] hi [18:02:53] morning all [18:02:54] yuvipanda: MaxSem you guys ready? [18:03:14] * MaxSem grabs his earphones [18:03:34] * yuvipanda grabs earphones too [18:03:58] tfinc: yup [18:10:44] tfinc: pm? [18:12:00] okay, we need to decide what kind of object size data we should store [18:12:23] MaxSem: points vs polylines/regions? [18:12:49] curently, GeoHack supports scale (as in 1:100500) and dim (object's largest dimension in metres) [18:12:59] sure [18:13:07] yuvipanda: whats up? [18:13:39] both could be used to figure out what map zoom to choose when displaying the object [18:14:12] (both also could be approximated from object type, but that's unimportant) [18:15:03] GeoHack recommends dim, as scale is paper maps oriented so it's kind of lame these days [18:17:03] we need either of them to decide what obkects to return during geosearch because if we're at the center of the city, we'll get city's article returned too unless we specify that we don't want objects larger than some size [18:17:15] currently, I use dim [18:17:21] any thoughts? [18:17:43] hmm [18:17:49] * tfinc reads backscroll [18:19:25] let me refresh my memory of this from geohack /me goes to read it on toolserver [18:21:13] * tfinc reads though http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Geographical_coordinates [18:21:36] tfinc: that's a good read [18:26:30] MaxSem: what advantage did scale give geohack ? seems like dim capture most of what they do. what made them do both? [18:26:38] captures* [18:28:11] * MaxSem wonders, too [18:28:17] mail them [18:28:35] it would be good to get their thoughts [18:29:54] preilly: besides the search bug. did anything else show up? [18:30:09] tfinc: no [18:42:16] preilly: code review? Are you planning on doing any this week? [18:42:37] 20% time! [18:42:38] :D [18:43:11] hexmode: maybe [18:46:02] preilly: please? [18:47:30] tfinc: we need to decide about "About" [18:48:03] philinje: ok. currently i know that the page is only in english [18:49:29] tfinc: philinje make it 'about application' [18:50:22] hexmode: okay [18:50:44] \o/ [18:50:52] we filed a bug to use the inter-wiki links of WIkipedia:About, but why is this about Wikipedia vs the app? [18:51:34] philinje: bug # ? [18:52:00] 33527 [18:53:04] was this an arbitrary decision made by Nitobi, or is there some reason for it? [18:53:20] reason why were linking to the about page ? [18:53:33] no. they asked what we should link to. that was the only page that was available [18:53:39] we can change it as needed [18:54:07] i see lots of iw links for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:About [18:54:15] but are we saying that we can't use those ? [18:54:16] it would be less work to make a standard about but it would have to be translated [18:54:24] i'm fine with that [18:54:58] the Wikipedia:ABout is not in all languages, so it sometimes goes to disambiguation in some languages, and in others it generates a 404 for some reason [18:55:12] philinje: it doesn't exist for a lot of languages [18:55:16] tawiki doesn't have it, for instance [18:55:38] the 404 error happens with Polish, which has a direct version of Aikipedia:About [18:56:18] we may have another issue there to look into [18:56:42] philinje: i think an 'about app' thing instead of 'about wikipedia' thing would fix all this [18:56:45] and also, 'makes sense' [18:56:51] yuvipanda: sounds like we can go with an app about [18:56:56] +1 [18:57:12] I'll put a not in the bug with some sample language [18:57:38] philinje: and hit heather or jorm? [18:57:41] hit up, not hit [18:58:08] or on [18:58:21] not that there's anything wrong with that [18:59:38] yes, i think ;) [19:09:13] MaxSem: why do you have a backtick in 'globe' => "Globe to search on (by default `{$wgDefaultGlobe}')", [19:09:25] MaxSem: in http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/108079 [19:10:05] old email habits? :D [19:10:53] that's the API convention. though after a careful look I see that there should be twice as much of them:) [19:15:26] MaxSem: why is the backtick needed? [19:15:52] no idea:) but grep core API for it [19:17:06] MaxSem: but, it's always two `` [19:17:20] yeah, will fix that [19:28:35] [WikipediaMobile] preillyme pushed 5 new commits to master: http://git.io/NCRy_Q [19:28:35] [WikipediaMobile/master] Renamed checkLength to something saner - YuviPanda [19:28:35] [WikipediaMobile/master] Renamed all bookmarksDB into savedPagesDB - YuviPanda [19:28:35] [WikipediaMobile/master] Removed some redundant code - YuviPanda [19:28:47] [WikipediaMobile] preillyme pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/CVBqSA [19:28:47] [WikipediaMobile/master] Merge pull request #97 from yuvipanda/multilingual-nearby - Patrick Reilly [19:28:54] Project WikipediaMobile - Nightly builds build #55: SUCCESS in 10 sec: http://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/WikipediaMobile%20-%20Nightly%20builds/55/ [19:28:55] * yuvipanda: Renamed checkLength to something saner [19:28:55] * yuvipanda: Renamed all bookmarksDB into savedPagesDB [19:28:56] * yuvipanda: Removed some redundant code [19:28:56] * yuvipanda: Moved navigateToPage to app [19:28:57] * yuvipanda: Nearme now searches in content language [19:31:18] tfinc: do we need a EULA for the app? Some Android apps have license info in the About box, or reference the EULA via a link [19:31:28] ours is GPL? [19:31:30] or something? [19:31:30] GPLv2 ? [19:32:28] just reference the GPL [19:32:40] philinje: tfinc any particular bug fixes you'd want me too look at? I'm not aware of anything other than the hebrew keyboard thing, and am currently doing some cleanup work. [19:33:36] ok [19:34:02] let me look at the bug list [19:34:41] last night i noticed that while brion div fixes tapping into the input box .. hitting the hardware search button wasn't fixed [19:34:46] are you seeing the same yuvipanda ? [19:36:34] yuvipanda: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33280 [19:37:29] tfinc: okay, so. [19:37:34] do we need the 'forward' button? [19:38:41] philinje: ^ [19:39:34] probably [19:40:44] yeah, lets keep it but it should be disabled if there is nothing to more forward to [19:43:52] aharoni: did you get a phone ? [19:44:00] hi [19:44:03] greetings [19:44:43] philinje: thoughts on the Mobile QA RFP ? [19:46:57] i went shopping for it today. the cheapest one i could find that supports Hebrew out of the box is Galaxy S 2, which may be a bit expensive. [19:47:20] with taxes it's about 650 USD. so i didn't want to get without approval. [19:50:13] damn [19:50:35] thats an option .. but what are out others? [19:50:54] so far i've gotten most unlocked phones for sub $400 here in the states [19:51:15] 3 last words are the key;) [19:51:16] Can't you buy a cheaper one, root it (void warranty) and have he? [19:52:52] aharoni: let us know what the other options are as thats a bit pricey and we'll figure it out. [19:53:06] * tfinc steps away for lunch [19:53:19] aharoni: no Nexus S? [19:53:32] tfinc, reedy, i can try installing something else. [19:53:57] Though, there are benefits to having one that works off hte shelf [19:54:13] yuvipanda, I think that Nexus S is not marketed much here, i'll check again. [19:56:41] taxes on electronics here are quite crazy. [19:57:34] when i was too young to know, I think India had 200% taxes on any 'imported' electronics too [19:59:30] yuvipanda, how much more did your MB Air cost compared to the US? [19:59:45] MaxSem: mine was bought from the US [19:59:52] heh [19:59:55] MaxSem: but, the price difference is about 20,000 INR [20:00:03] In real money, please. [20:00:03] that's about 400$ I guess [20:01:19] heh, about the same ordr of magnitude as our robbers from the government [20:01:40] Reedy: or, 246.0940 British pounds sterling [20:02:06] I planned to buy myself one in SF, too, but the trip had to be cancelled [20:02:15] US $ is somewhat real [20:02:21] But then, I associate no value to the actual notes [20:02:25] I thought Brazil's currency was Real [20:02:40] So when spending it, I have no idea how much I'm actually spending [20:03:13] money === shit, comrade [20:03:25] it's going to be interesting if/when I come to SF [20:03:36] where 1 is actually worth that much [20:07:08] no no, just because a sandwich is priced at $10, doesn't mean that's what it's worth ;) [20:11:46] true [20:12:00] the awesomest burger i've had ever was $2 [20:12:13] I wonder how McD/KFC prices compare. [20:12:48] what a message to come in on... [20:13:45] yuvipanda, you don't eat cows, too? [20:13:54] MaxSem: i totally do :D [20:13:59] Bad Indian [20:14:07] yuvipanda, I think McD is about the same price [20:14:08] MaxSem: beef, pork, mutton, chicken, prawns, crabs, squid [20:14:12] They just give you a fucktonne more [20:14:13] I so so want to do this: http://troll-rockeiro.tumblr.com/post/15315268960/photoset_iframe/troll-rockeiro/tumblr_lxas8xorQD1qkezc0/500 [20:14:23] although, ofcourse, I'd eat chicken rather than anything else [20:14:27] beef is too 'tough' for my tastes [20:14:32] and I don't like the taste of bacon [20:14:33] * yuvipanda runs [20:14:34] I've never needed/wanted to go in and get 20 chicken nuggets or whatever they do portion sizes [20:14:41] Smell of bacon makes me feel sick [20:14:59] wah, finally! [20:15:06] though I do get mine with double cheese. [20:15:33] preilly: I promise to do this soon and record the results [20:16:01] Reedy: they also probably have a bunch of stuff here they don't have over there. [20:16:12] also, McD is 'premier' and 'costly' here. doubt that's the case ther [20:16:12] e [20:16:32] preilly: only thing is to find equivalent person for panel 4... [20:16:36] Like I said, I've never had a need/want to go into a McDonalds in the US :p [20:17:04] yuvipanda: ha ha [20:17:05] me too [20:17:45] I also wonder how much a half litre bottle of pepsi costs [20:17:54] and I wonder if they even have pepsi, considering coke is supposedly more popular [20:18:03] funnily, one of the first things my 12 years old niece asked when I returned was "were the a lot of macdonaldses?" [20:18:08] :D [20:18:39] but most of all, I think the population density thing is perhaps what will hit me. [20:19:55] my impression is that despite the rumors, there are many more Starbuckses and Subways in North America than McDonaldses. [20:22:55] yeah, I walked to the Starbucks about a block away for a breakfast, then noticed another just cross the street from the hotel:) [20:24:27] my biggest concern is to not get lost [20:24:36] i'm almost blind without my GPS [20:24:40] (which doesnt' work on my phone) [20:25:56] use those creepy things called paper maps, young padawan [20:26:40] ah [20:27:00] i'm young enough to have never needed them :D [20:27:23] I also don't remember a time when I went out and didn't have a cellphone [20:29:11] SF is a small town, you can walk through it quite easily. just don't wander to the Tenderloin [20:34:54] preilly: i just realized 'best' place to pull that trick (gif) is perhaps at the TSA security check lines :D [20:40:55] All American cities are very hard to get lost at, especially by foot. Most streets are perfectly straight. The simplest paper map gets you almost anywhere. [20:42:32] aharoni: I'm amazingly skilled at getting lost. [20:42:43] spent 5 hours lost 500m near my old office trying to get there [20:44:47] [20:45:27] Amgine: will solve with GPS :) [20:45:32] and data connection, ofcourse [20:45:34] :) [20:47:45] So, method FindGPSstore{...} [21:27:03] preilly : new build looks good on the iPad [21:27:05] i'm going to mail out [21:27:13] tfinc: okay, cool [21:30:08] preilly: give me a little snippet of what was broken with RC2 and what they should test with RC3 [21:31:54] tfinc: it was the search bar showing up twice in subsequent web views [21:32:13] k [21:33:25] yuvipanda: how are the changes for RC4 looking? [21:33:48] tfinc: pretty good, I've got the forward fix almost done. [21:33:56] and a few code-cleans. [21:34:18] did you see the hardware search button highlight issue ? [21:34:31] tfinc: bug no.? [21:36:05] tfinc: I'm going to grab some food with binasher I'll be back in a bit [21:36:15] preilly: k [21:45:20] preilly: did we stage some ips for zero ? [21:51:14] ok. email for RC3 is out [21:51:20] that should be the iOS final [21:57:38] yuvipanda: let me cut a bug [21:57:44] tfinc: ok [21:57:46] yuvipanda: but can you verify wether you seeing it? [21:57:56] just hit the search hardware button [21:58:02] tfinc: nothing happens. [21:58:05] yup, bug. [21:58:08] does it highlight and show the blinking cursor [21:58:09] right [22:21:35] yuvipanda: we got the final language for the About screen and Heather will design it [22:21:41] tfinc: cool! [22:21:55] i fixed that 'forward' bug and sent a pull req. on the hardware search bug now [22:22:58] though I wonder if the graphics and text should float so it can be localized easily, and the version number can be changed easily, etc. [22:23:53] are we really happy with the new icon? [22:23:57] i think the old one was better [22:23:59] philinje: yuvipanda ? [22:24:08] I like the new one [22:24:13] wait [22:24:20] something happened - Brion didn't update the icon before and this time i think he used the wrong one possible [22:24:21] new -> one we have right now? [22:24:32] yes. the really blocky looking one [22:24:43] has a really weird line at the top [22:24:44] not sure I like this better than the one with the shadow [22:24:54] i thought the shadow looked way better [22:24:56] philinje: ? [22:25:02] probably because the shadows were not visible on my phone's display and it just looked completely awkward [22:25:33] yuvipanda: the old one looked bad? [22:25:43] yes, I said so on the bug too... [22:26:28] Heather tried to change it so the shading was lighter and the dark part was on the bottom, but that results in a kind of line across the top [22:27:30] talking to heather [22:29:46] let's go back to something similar to the old one with less heavy shading and let's see how that looks on yuvi's phone [22:32:26] the line on the top can also be changed [22:32:48] if shading is at top, the highlight along top is natural [22:42:05] [WikipediaMobile] preillyme pushed 2 new commits to master: http://git.io/0U8Ljw [22:42:05] [WikipediaMobile/master] Fixed Forward menu option - YuviPanda [22:42:05] [WikipediaMobile/master] Merge pull request #98 from yuvipanda/forward-button-fix - Patrick Reilly [22:42:19] Project WikipediaMobile - Nightly builds build #56: SUCCESS in 7.3 sec: http://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/WikipediaMobile%20-%20Nightly%20builds/56/ [22:42:20] yuvipanda: Fixed Forward menu option [22:43:06] yuvipanda: can you describe an icon that looks goon on your phone, and why it doesn't have the same problem? [22:43:48] philinje: the current one actually does look good. [22:44:29] well, it looks like a fuzzy-torn paper bag, but that's good. [22:44:44] philinje: i'm not sure, probably because most icons didn't have a shadow, or if they did, it is along the bottom/right? [22:54:34] yuvipanda: can you take a photo and send it? [22:54:50] philinje: okay [22:56:30] what kind of phone do you have? [22:57:14] philinje: samsung galaxy 3 [22:59:45] philinje: sent you an email [23:00:23] yuvipanda: ok thanks. What is the screenshot in the bug you attached a long time ago? [23:00:34] philinje: that was taken via android tools [23:00:43] hence doesn't 'truly' reflect how it looks on the screen [23:00:48] got it [23:01:55] yuvipanda: got the photo - what do you mean by fuzzy paper bag? [23:02:19] the top of the icon is 'fuzzy'? [23:02:54] so the old one - was the problem the shading through the middle looked rough? [23:04:49] philinje: the old one - the shading at the top just disappeared [23:04:56] so it was the bottom looking 'heavy' [23:07:56] yuvipanda: ok, we'll try something similar to the old one, but this time take a photo of the screen - it's very hard to imagine what you're saying [23:08:07] will do [23:11:34] hmm, weird phonegap is weird. [23:17:45] tfinc: philinje did the hardware search button ever work? [23:18:20] yuvipanda: yes [23:24:52] its certainly worked in the past [23:24:55] and we need to have it working here [23:25:09] having a hardware button broken looks bad [23:29:14] yeah, I know. [23:29:21] the documented event just doesn't seem to fire :| [23:29:43] phonegap bug [23:29:43] ? [23:29:46] hit them up on irc [23:31:05] gaah [23:31:07] works on 2.3 [23:31:11] one mulator [23:31:13] *emulator [23:31:16] * yuvipanda checks 2.2 emu [23:33:21] uh oh [23:33:24] works on 2.2 emu too [23:33:26] just not on my device [23:33:35] lame [23:35:16] yuvipanda: search button bug https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33573 [23:46:05] wow, long time no here and look how many people! [23:46:06] uhoh .. its qgil [23:46:14] trouble just arrived [23:46:14] :D [23:46:20] yeah, we've grown a little bit [23:46:27] actually I come as a MediaWiki user :) [23:46:46] I was wondering if all the magic being developed for Wikipedia is available for other MediaWiki sites [23:46:51] and hi tfinc :) [23:46:56] what kind of magic ? [23:47:19] that mobile skin, the autodetection of mobile browsers [23:48:31] the mobile skin itself is just a mw extension that anyone can install [23:48:51] is http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MobileSkin the one Wikipedia is using? [23:49:11] Extension:MobileFrontend [23:49:12] for the device detection you'll need mw, mobile frontend (mw extension i was referring to ), and WURFL [23:49:29] wurfl is all packaged in the extension [23:49:31] WURLF is the device library that tells MW wether something is a mobile device [23:49:45] even easier these days [23:49:46] require_once( "$IP/extensions/MobileFrontend/MobileFrontend.php" ); [23:49:55] /wiki/My_page?useformat=mobile [23:50:00] huzzah! [23:50:11] tfinc: I had all sorts of fun filling in points at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mobile_Projects/WikipediaMobileiOSFeedback [23:50:42] excellent. thanks maplebed [23:51:04]