[00:00:26] sounds good [00:00:45] are we happy enough with ICS to not set a max supported version ? [00:02:30] I still keep getting sent emails suggesting I buy a Galaxy Nexus [00:03:35] tfinc, i'm happy enough with it yeah [00:03:51] both honeycomb & ics have a few minor glitches but nothing too awful [00:05:19] http://dumps.wikimedia.org/android/WikipediaMobile-RC5.apk ( 0b5beb6d4addc12f859948369c7a8af7 ) [00:09:18] http://tinyurl.com/89osels [00:09:19] so looking at the iTunes store reviews .. i'm wondering if people are tapping to the right of the bottom w expecting to see a search bar [00:10:11] near me works :D [00:10:14] hmm [00:10:37] [WikipediaMobile] flyingclimber pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/1a3PbA [00:10:37] [WikipediaMobile/master] Updating for market release key - Tomasz Finc [00:11:02] Project WikipediaMobile - Nightly builds build #73: SUCCESS in 11 sec: http://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/WikipediaMobile%20-%20Nightly%20builds/73/ [00:11:02] tomasz: Updating for market release key [00:11:12] thanks mw-jenkinsbot [00:11:13] :) [00:58:59] brion: want to see the sliding toc that i was talking about ? [00:58:59] . [01:24:35] hehe https://developer.android.com/design/static/content/notifications_pattern_social_fail.png [01:24:53] haha [01:25:48] so amit has this for the description https://office.wikimedia.org/wiki/Android_Distribution_and_Marketing#v1.0_.28Main_text.29 [01:25:58] but doesn't have anything for recent changes [01:26:03] any thoughts on what you guys would like to see? [01:48:29] not really any recent changes, it's... new :) [01:50:05] preilly: did this not take because its in a span http://tr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ana_Sayfa&action=historysubmit&diff=10631249&oldid=10403768 ? [02:45:39] I like the new about screeen [03:05:18] yeah [03:08:33] Need to pull my github branch back upto date after some sleep [09:22:11] good morning, Andre_Engels [09:22:18] when do you start? [09:24:17] I already started last week [10:38:27] HI [10:38:40] https://github.com/nitobi/Wikipedia is 404 - where are the sources for the mobile app? [10:39:19] Also please UPDATE LINKS in http://blog.wikimedia.org/2011/10/24/wikipedia-android-needs-developers/ [18:00:20] greetings all [18:00:23] yuvipanda: MaxSem ready to our stand up? [18:00:39] for* [18:00:47] tfinc: yes! [18:00:58] ready [18:01:27] @wikimedia android market account will be in place right after our meeting :D [18:01:36] google finally told me the right info to fix it [18:01:42] awesome! [18:01:46] wheee! [18:01:54] tfinc: so going to market today? [18:12:13] tfinc: what kinda things over the next week would delay our publicity stint? [18:12:41] heh, i hope next will be a wiktionary app, i really dont like the unofficial one with advertisement [18:12:58] yeah, that. [18:13:01] tfinc: what am I doing next? [18:13:03] yuvipanda: so [18:13:04] hmmm. btw, we could start thinking about making mobile-enwp publicly accessible [18:13:22] yuvipanda: crashing, freezing, major workflow issues [18:13:45] more so the former rather then the latter [18:13:55] if people can't use it .. then we have a big problem [18:14:00] ah, right [18:14:04] so dark launch that way [18:14:04] okay [18:14:05] if people have a hard time using it and we can fix it [18:14:09] then we should fix it [18:14:09] we'd announce on wikitech-l? [18:14:17] or just nowhere at all? [18:14:36] if they want to edit (which they will say) we WONT hold up the other stores [18:14:47] mobile-l@ should be fine [18:15:00] ah, okay [18:15:22] tfinc: i'll probably put up a blog post + tweet, but mention it as RC5, and link to RC5 as well? [18:15:28] i think that's our true 'RC' [18:16:20] lola .. its soooo our first true RC [18:16:21] betas next time [18:16:23] my bad on that one [18:16:35] i thought we were farther along [18:16:39] but lessons learned [18:16:41] :) [18:17:12] tfinc: the other question - what am I going to be doing next? [18:17:32] mutante: btw, i think there is a gsoc-type program for which wiktionary app is one of the suggested things [18:17:35] the same thing you do every night [18:17:47] preilly: well, define 'night' [18:17:49] yuvipanda: awesome! [18:17:54] try to take over the world through editing free knowledge [18:18:11] yuvipanda: that unofficial wiktionary app is kind of evil.. [18:18:14] working so far :D [18:18:25] yuvipanda: short answer take a look at this http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mobile_Projects/roadmap [18:18:53] were not hurting on to do's [18:19:18] read through that and tell me what jumps out at you as something you want to tackle [18:19:27] i'll give you some suggestions after i finish our market registration [18:20:06] mmmm! [18:20:08] tfinc: okay! [18:20:18] * yuvipanda hurries to finish refactor. [18:20:54] tfinc: does the icon look good on your device? [18:20:55] the 'new' one looks worse on mine. [18:21:08] anything with a shadow looks awful on mine. [18:21:14] since the shadows just move into a horrible black line, no alphaish [18:25:50] Android market: Wikimedia Foundation [18:25:50] tfinc@wikimedia.org [18:25:52] woot! [18:25:52] finally [18:25:56] geez that took forever [18:25:57] :D [18:26:05] turns out hcatlin was hiding the account all long ;) [18:26:05] haha [18:26:13] thanks for unsetting it hcatlin ! [18:27:52] brion says he's not feeling well [18:27:53] sadness [18:27:58] if you mean the launcher W, yuvipanda we made the "horrible black line" to cope with the "ripped paper bag" look of the white edge. :D [18:28:08] hey, but ripped paper bags are cool! [18:28:14] hah [18:28:15] it's like, a few pages torn off an encyclopedia :D [18:28:41] I did that about 9 years ago from my secondary school library :D [18:28:56] heatherw_: but honestly, the shadow gives it a weird black 'border' that makes it feel super-weird [18:33:24] SORRY! [18:33:29] i am an account stealer. [18:36:29] who knew that making a white icon was such a problem to solve? [18:37:11] heatherw_: :D [18:39:57] heatherw_: does it look good on the expensive 1st world phones brion and tfinc have? :D [18:40:08] i got first world problems :) [18:40:23] 'the shadow on my app's icon doesn't render properly on my phone :'(' [18:40:24] ;_; my screen's too big! [18:40:39] ;_; my drop shadowwwwwssss [18:42:02] yuvipanda: how's things running on your phone? all working? [18:42:33] brion: RC5? [18:42:37] yeah [18:43:01] master y'day went fine, but scp'ing RC5 now... [18:43:07] heads up: i'm fighting to make sure that our SOPA blackout doesn't affect mobile [18:43:17] as that'll annihilate our app store reviews [18:43:23] if it's JS stuff that shouldn't break mobile [18:43:32] since we don't include said js [18:43:45] it'd be done through central notice. [18:44:04] yes. if its cn then i'm not worried [18:44:05] interesting that of all the times I pick to be in the US, it'd be during the SOPA hearings time [18:44:30] if its not in cn then the app is screwed [18:44:40] tfinc: can't we also just re-format it in whatever way they're doing and display it appropriately? [18:44:42] now if we had been in the market for a while .. i wouldn't worry [18:44:46] as i really really hate SOPA [18:44:53] if it's not cn it's probably site js, and that'd keep us clear too [18:47:59] tfinc: brion when would we know? [18:48:33] i'm not following closely enough to know who's doing what [18:49:02] in theory there oughtta be some information around https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:SOPA_initiative/Action or so [18:49:05] kaldari is leading it from the dev side [18:49:12] ah good [18:49:18] kaldari++ [18:52:31] i emailed him .. hoping to get him to join in here [18:52:46] currently what i know is "Wednesday - 5:00 AM UTC (Tuesday 9:00 PM PST): POTENTIALLY, DEPENDING ON COMMUNITY VOTE Geo-targeted SOPA blackout via CentralNotice [Ryan Kaldari / Brandon Harris]" [18:52:48] from: http://wikitech.wikimedia.org/view/Software_deployments [18:53:04] hell yeah [19:04:26] brion: so far so good. [19:28:28] brion: okay, looks good other than general slowness. [19:28:46] brion: am off to finish my refactor. [19:28:53] yay [19:30:15] brion: it's pretty darn slow though. Once am done perhaps should find a way to profile this... [19:30:21] [WikipediaMobile] brion pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/GX49Wg [19:30:21] [WikipediaMobile/master] bug 33710 - fix Hebrew app title, needs to be available under Java-style 'iw' locale - Brion Vibber [19:30:22] :( [19:30:38] Project WikipediaMobile - Nightly builds build #74: SUCCESS in 9.1 sec: http://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/WikipediaMobile%20-%20Nightly%20builds/74/ [19:30:38] brion: bug 33710 - fix Hebrew app title, needs to be available under Java-style 'iw' locale [19:30:48] wtf [19:30:54] it's telling me it won't push [19:31:03] ah i see that's another branch [19:43:11] tfinc: btw, before it goes all out marketing - I think we should get all the wikipedias' front-page working [19:47:30] tfinc: are you around or in a meeting? [19:50:48] http://mobile-feeds.wmflabs.org/w/api.php?action=featuredfeed&feed=onthisday&feedformat=atom [19:51:16] coming downstairs [19:55:17] tfinc: are we frozen for market release, or still time for a few bug fixes? [19:55:33] brion …. you know how much i like last minute changes ;) [19:55:36] what do you have ? [19:55:38] \o/ [19:55:46] fix for localized hebrew app name [19:55:46] i plan to push after lunch [19:56:01] trivial fix, already in master [19:56:04] you building from the 1.0 branch? [19:56:12] i'm building from 1.0 [19:56:23] ok. i'll cherry-pick it, just adds another resource subdirectory [19:56:57] brion: can you also pull in 53e5282fe4d2e29b1b73583420895bc34c2ac44a [19:57:05] i made the change in master and my local copy [19:57:09] but i haven't pushed it to 1.0 [19:57:19] ok pushed [19:57:21] its the new android:apiKey [19:57:22] [WikipediaMobile] brion pushed 2 new commits to 1.0: http://git.io/3Y8DAg [19:57:22] [WikipediaMobile/1.0] bug 33710 - fix Hebrew app title, needs to be available under Java-style 'iw' locale - Brion Vibber [19:57:22] [WikipediaMobile/1.0] Updating for market release key - Tomasz Finc [19:57:23] sweet [19:57:56] brb [19:58:01] whee [19:59:07] Project WikipediaMobile - Nightly builds build #75: SUCCESS in 6.6 sec: http://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/WikipediaMobile%20-%20Nightly%20builds/75/ [19:59:08] * brion: bug 33710 - fix Hebrew app title, needs to be available under Java-style 'iw' locale [19:59:08] * brion: Updating for market release key [20:00:37] yuvipanda: there are tons of pages that won't be ready for the apps release [20:00:51] tfinc: well, true. But atleast the major ones. [20:01:03] like, perhaps, simple english wikipedia (not sure if 'major') [20:01:08] but thankfully we fixe the major ones when we launched mobile frontend [20:01:13] another push can't hurt :) [20:01:34] the one that i tried to fix last night but failed on was tr [20:01:40] still need to figure that one out [20:02:03] brion: did you check the "Do not promote my application except in Android Market and in any Google-owned online or mobile properties." on your android market apps ? [20:02:22] we'd like it to be quiet for the first week as discussed bt it seems like it takes 60 days for any changes to that option [20:04:03] * tfinc goes to build a new apk [20:07:41] http://dumps.wikimedia.org/android/WikipediaMobile-RC5-1.apk (e63eea0b07b2d1aeacbfd0b6ba1b7a91) [20:07:52] brion: --^ [20:18:03] looks good so far [20:20:40] brion: yuvipanda any issues with RC5-1 ? [20:20:44] it looks good to me [20:21:08] tfinc: fine to me. [20:21:15] tfinc: are we running with the same logo? [20:22:20] same logo? [20:23:21] tfinc: the one with the shadow? [20:23:28] guys i'm not seeing us bring up the correct main page when in a non english locale [20:23:31] i know this worked before [20:23:50] tfinc: locale on the phone? [20:24:05] i'm seeing the english main page regardless of wether my phone is in polish, spanish, or english [20:24:21] tfinc: you changed locale on the phone? [20:24:23] or in the app? [20:24:24] tfinc: on first run, or subsequent run after running in english? [20:24:35] i changed the locale on the phone [20:24:44] after running english [20:24:48] let me do a fresh install [20:25:03] you can also just clear data from 'manage apps' [20:25:42] tfinc: if you've changed the language in app's settings [20:25:48] that 'sticks' [20:26:03] even across phone locale changes [20:26:03] ok .. on a fresh install it respected the locale change [20:26:05] thats the most imporant [20:26:05] ok if i clear app data, then set phone to espanol, then launch the app again i get spanish [20:26:07] panic averted [20:26:24] \o/ /o/ \p/ [20:26:57] ok. I'm going to mail mobile-l@ to give them a heads up about the launch plan, then lunch, then we'll push it [20:26:58] man the emulator is waaaaay faster at ldpi display [20:27:11] i swear 99% of the performance is from ssllooww drawing [20:27:18] ORLY? [20:27:39] and don't even bother running the emu at 1280x720 [20:27:49] heh .. i have .. and my batter went to zero [20:27:52] battery* [20:28:43] brion: did you submit an oscon talk? [20:36:02] tfinc, http://mobile-feeds.wmflabs.org/w/index.php/Main_Page [20:36:14] MaxSem: nice. i'll take a look a bit later [20:42:21] ¡Hola! [20:43:24] Does anybody have any idea about https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33704 ? [20:44:32] aharoni: your latter conjecture (no tags!) sounds more plausible [20:44:48] How are the coordinates loaded in the first place? From the {{coord}} template in the article or using something else? [20:44:50] aharoni: can you point me to the location where you found none? in gmaps? [20:45:01] (rather, I just need lats and lons) [20:45:13] aharoni: we use geonames [20:45:15] aharoni: http://www.geonames.org/ [20:54:17] Check out https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tel_Aviv_University [20:54:34] it has the same {{coord}} template in English and in Hebrew. [20:58:35] aharoni: interesting, http://api.geonames.org/findNearbyWikipedia?lat=32&lng=34&username=wikimedia&lang=he doesn't find me anything [20:58:45] http://api.geonames.org/findNearbyWikipediaJSON?lat=32&lng=34&username=wikimedia&lang=he rather [20:58:58] hmm, nothing in en too, so doubt that's the issue [21:00:25] hmm. i definitely saw Tel Aviv University in English and in Polish. [21:00:58] wait, geonames allow only 1-degree precision? [21:01:14] MaxSem: as in? [21:01:29] oh no [21:01:29] lat=32&lng=34 [21:01:32] i just copy pasted it that way [21:01:34] assumed it'll be 'near enough' [21:01:37] perhaps not [21:01:45] and when i switched the locale to Polish, i saw a marker pointing to the following article in Polish: https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tel_Awiw_University [21:02:25] aharoni: s only he was this problem... [21:02:27] *has [21:02:30] HAAAA HAAAA [21:02:40] GeoData found it [21:03:11] Tel Aviv University, Habima Theatre, Tel Aviv Metropolitan Area [21:03:20] :D [21:03:23] MaxSem: nice :) [21:03:31] (it's the train station near the university) [21:03:38] tfinc: is the deadline already passed or about to pass? [21:03:49] brion: new bugfix? [21:03:57] oscon [21:04:05] brion: last night :( [21:04:14] d'oh [21:04:29] how can i see whether geonames finds has at all in Hebrew (he or iw)? or in Czech (cs) or Catalan (ca)? [21:04:30] i mailed wikitech a couple of weeks ago to remind folks [21:04:33] eager to see who submitted [21:04:36] i'll put something in for usenix web apps if i have time, thats due in a week or two [21:04:44] s/has/anything/ [21:04:45] aharoni: lang= [21:04:51] you can always prod danese to see if she'll let you sneak in [21:04:56] heh no need [21:05:39] hehe . yuvipanda no new bug fix ;) [21:05:39] just conference presentations [21:05:43] no new bug fix for 1.0, you mean :P [21:05:53] correc [21:05:53] t [21:06:12] http://www.usenix.org/events/webapps12/cfp [21:06:23] yuvipanda, i mean to ask whether geonames has any data for any location in these languages. [21:06:51] aharoni: it should - their API docs say available in all languages [21:06:56] probably do a short demo paper on my javascript embedding concepts [21:08:20] grrr [21:08:21] yuvipanda, this problem happens in Hebrew, Czech, Catalan, and maybe more languages. [21:08:25] I need an UPS [21:09:39] aharoni: add that to the bug? Will dive into geonames and figure out what the issue is [21:09:39] MaxSem|2 hear your pain. I bought a hyperjuice battery for same reason :D [21:09:40] i already listed these languages there. there may be more. [21:10:19] ah, okay! [21:12:15] won't it be nice when we don't have to rely on geonames anymore ? [21:12:36] it keeps returning in correctly coded articles near where i live [21:12:37] won't be far away :) [21:12:48] and i hate not being able to fix it right away [21:12:58] but thanks to the work that MaxSem|2 is doing [21:13:02] sortof like css bugs :P [21:13:06] we'll get that fixed up [21:14:01] i meant css bugs in *webkit*, which are again mostly out of our control. [21:14:18] also, clearly i am too sleepy. [21:14:29] yeah, but we'd have to tackle them eventually [21:14:43] tfinc: crashing for the night. will pull in some time over the weekend to make sure I land the refactors before boarding the plain. [21:14:57] watch the android reviews coming in [21:15:09] we should pay close attention to that over the weekend [21:15:17] true! [21:15:44] tfinc: btw, figured out what I'm doing next? 1.1 vs iOS? [21:16:16] we'll know after the reviews come in [21:16:38] assuming its quiet i'd say iOS to streamline our code branches [21:16:42] brion has it mostly there [21:17:10] we'd have to get you an iOS device of cours [21:17:12] e [21:17:59] the two main things that don't work on ios: saved pages, near me [21:18:05] tfinc: if anything pressing comes up, i'm sure we can do 1.01, 1.02, etc? [21:18:08] will also have to test locale issues [21:18:16] brion: i'm guessing near me needs obj-c code? [21:18:31] unless you want to move that to html right away (remember seeing a bug for that...) [21:18:41] either obj-c code or a web implementation [21:18:48] which i'd rather tdo [21:18:54] we *could* move to OSM+Leaflet.js [21:19:01] (rather make sure it happens, you can feel free to work on it :D) [21:19:08] +1 [21:19:26] the toolbar menu also needs some work still [21:19:36] but a basic one's in [21:19:49] oh, sharing also is needed [21:20:01] i have a bug in suggesting using ShareKit and a phonegap plugin for that [21:20:16] looks like that's mostly what we'd do. [21:20:16] tfinc: hmm [21:20:21] tfinc: opinion on moving to OSM? [21:20:30] our about screen should probably call out copyright notices for libraries we use, shouldn't it? [21:21:34] okay, just facekeyboarded. [21:21:42] gnite everyone [21:21:47] :) [21:21:48] sleep well [21:21:49] looking forward to waking up to reviews [21:21:52] :D [21:28:17] all right .. last chance to change anything [21:28:21] chance* [21:29:04] * tfinc renames RC5-1 to just WikipediaMobile [21:32:23] wheeeee [21:33:27] brion: what do you think about the Marketing Opt-Out ? [21:33:34] ? [21:33:44] Do not promote my application except in Android Market and in any Google-owned online or mobile properties. I understand that any changes to this preference may take sixty days to take effect. [21:33:48] default is yes [21:33:59] market the hell out of us dude i say [21:34:04] but…. not my decision :D [21:35:06] one more thing .. i'm going to move the new keystone to tridge before mailing this :D [21:35:11] s/move/copy [21:35:18] k [21:38:36] oh . for launch .. do we just want en or the rest? for listings [21:39:11] besides en .. there are 19others [21:39:15] listings? [21:39:30] no english google android market [21:39:37] polish, japanese .. etc [21:39:59] did you do that at status net brion? [21:40:19] i think we just said 'sell it everywhere' [21:40:30] we can also "Fill fields with auto translation from English" [21:40:33] do we trust it ? [21:40:37] heh nice [21:40:42] maybe maybe not ;) [21:41:17] well .. they don't give me the option of putting in a polish or japanese description [21:41:19] that sucks [21:41:27] so its english or auto translated [21:41:31] weird [21:44:14] eh, lets try the auto translation and see what we get. [21:45:03] ok .. time to publish it :D [21:46:01] oh … wait .. i lied .. you can do individual translations .. the workflow is just weird [21:46:06] let me see how good it got polish [21:50:34] lame: Everyone This rating option has been disabled by the Android Market team [21:50:41] under Content Rating [21:52:50] i'm just going to set it to low [21:53:25] * tfinc hits the publishing button :D [21:57:06] hmm .. i named it "Wikipedia Mobile" .. I'm just going to trim it to "Wikipedia" [22:00:07] i'm not seeing it show up just yet … /me wonders how long this takes [22:02:21] this is so not cool https://market.android.com/books/authors/Wikimedia%20Foundation [22:03:15] tfinc: this is awesome https://market.android.com/details?id=book-LI_ZuGNkA34C&feature=null-Wikimedia+Foundation#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDMwMiwiYm9vay1MSV9adUdOa0EzNEMiXQ.. [22:03:19] grr [22:03:33] sue eM Publications [22:04:09] I'm talking to geoff right now [22:14:29] tfinc: you can do [22:14:40] package org.wikipedia; [22:14:47] so, it is here: https://market.android.com/details?id=org.wikipedia [22:14:57] tfinc: ^^ [22:15:16] there we go [22:15:25] guess the search and browse index isn't updated yet [22:15:27] tfinc: might be good to get this page https://market.android.com/developer?pub=Wikimedia+Foundation working [22:15:53] bah.. like thats inportant [22:15:55] yes [22:16:55] if it's in the marker, does it mean that it will get automatic updates? [22:17:03] s/marker/market/ [22:17:13] aharoni: yes [22:17:22] i also changed the name from "Wikipedia mobile" to just "Wikipeida" [22:17:32] should i publish at our village pump? [22:18:01] aharoni: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mobile-l/2012-January/005294.html [22:18:45] i saw that; the question is whether the village pump is "large publicity" :) [22:19:05] philinje: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mobile-l/2012-January/005294.html [22:19:33] aharoni: well .. i want people to test but i don't want an news sites to pick it up yet [22:19:36] so you tell me ;) [22:20:23] OK, so a short notice probably won't hurt :) [22:21:21] aharoni: you need to check "Allow automatic updating" [22:24:16] * tfinc hands out the virtual beer  [22:26:16] * preilly throws tfinc a Dundee Scotch Ale. [ http://www.openbeerdb.com/browse/detail/be_4030 ] [22:26:46] thanks for the "Internal Server Error" [22:27:03] * preilly throws tfinc an Eel River Certified OrganicPorter. [ http://beerme.com/brewery.php?1600#6402 ] [22:27:30] jorm: we picked 1/13 as our release date a month ago and stuck to it. take that project planning [22:27:41] ha ha ha [22:28:02] yay [22:28:23] * preilly throws brion a Rosé de Gambrinus. [ http://www.openbeerdb.com/browse/detail/be_1346 ] [22:28:37] The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request. [22:28:44] nooooo [22:28:56] * tfinc wonders if we should just call preilly our virtual bartender  [22:28:57] you broke the openbeerdb [22:29:14] * preilly throws brion a Santa Cruz Dark Lager. [ http://beerme.com/brewery.php?3727#740 ] [22:29:31] "Water saved" :))) [22:29:41] * preilly is out of beer :( [22:29:52] NOOOO! [22:29:56] say it aint so [22:30:34] tfinc: yes, sadly — you'll need to wait 1.5 additional hours to consume actually beer and/or other spirits [22:30:53] * tfinc doesn't like this game anymore [22:31:18] Ryan_Lane: jorm are we doing drinks today? [22:31:30] tfinc: fundraising is! [22:31:37] ORLY? [22:31:56] tfinc: no it's O'Reilly [22:32:01] but, close [22:32:31] grrrr, those automatically translated descriptions are killing me [22:33:09] MaxSem: send me a better one and i'll update it [22:33:28] heh [22:36:17] preilly: where was the fundraising drinking email [22:36:28] drinks need to be had for pushing the android app and crushing sopa [22:36:37] tfinc: they mentioned it yesterday [22:36:44] tfinc: no email [22:37:24] aharoni: amir, any news on the Hebrew keyboard issue - did you check the previous device? [22:38:16] and could you put a comment in bug 33518? [22:49:36] philinje: https://market.android.com/details?id=org.wikipedia [22:52:46] philinje - no, i'll probably check it on Sunday. [22:53:22] ok. I'm taking a break from the android store and am setting up my indian visa [22:53:25] * tfinc is way behind [22:54:08] aharoni: ok thanks [23:04:24] OMG do we have to live with the horrible machine translation of the app description? [23:08:42] aharoni: not if you translate it for us [23:08:51] Where can i translate? [23:08:52] i can update it as soon as you send it to me [23:08:58] just email? [23:09:04] amit is cording it .. but for now .. yeah… just email me [23:09:17] coordinating* [23:09:33] translatewiki.net is an excellent place for getting translations ;) [23:09:34] but for now i'll email. [23:10:14] aharoni: if your translations are in your code. the market website has no support for that [23:10:57] well, i suppose that you could just get the translations from translatewiki.net and upload them separately or something. [23:11:04] its just a form [23:11:16] at that point i might as well just use a wiki [23:11:36] and do a call for translations [23:11:40] like we do for fundraising [23:11:48] Ryan_Lane: jorm : shall we host instead then? [23:11:51] do we need to do a run? [23:12:34] tfinc: they will if we wait till 5 [23:12:35] or we can [23:20:04] now i'm curious - how will people find the official app in the market? there are dozens of app with "Wikipedia" in the name. [23:54:34] Ryan_Lane: well .. considering its almost 4 .. sounds like waiting to 5 is not a big deal [23:54:39] Ryan_Lane: anyone mail out about it? [23:55:00] they make it easy [23:55:01] http://support.google.com/bin/request.py?hl=en&product=androidmarket&contact_type=lr_dmca [23:55:17] Amit Kapoor [23:55:17] 3:54 [23:55:18] theyve notified 71 of them of infringement. most havent reacted. [23:55:21] Amit Kapoor [23:55:22] michelle is back next week, with new interns, and we're gonna meet on a more harsh strategy [23:55:23] 3:54 [23:55:23] no one mailed about it [23:55:24] by harsh, i mean friendly and open, but less tolerant [23:57:52] Ryan_Lane: why don't' you just mail out and say well do it at 5 .. megZ will bring down some booze [23:58:03] I'm really swamped... [23:58:20] broken things, a billion people paging me [23:58:31] if someone else could, this time, it would be helpful [23:58:33] this is why we can't give you nice things to play with [23:58:37] heh [23:58:38] hehe