[00:02:00] tfinc: any more details for that bug 33772? [00:02:29] philinje: sadly not [00:02:33] thats all the info the android market gives me [00:02:36] 1 crash so far [00:02:49] annoyingly slim i'm afraid [00:03:06] is that from an automated test of some sort? [00:03:09] * MaxSem falls asleep [00:03:13] night Max [00:03:21] your going to miss out on al the soap fun ! [00:04:56] philinje: "Google sends unhandled exceptions that occur in application that leads to crash (force close). " [00:15:44] any german speakers in here that can make sense of GPS-Stress "Lässt den GPS-Empfang auf dem Nexus S an, wenn es im Hintergrund bleibt. Das muss nicht sein." [00:16:13] tfinc: "Lets be the GPS receiver on the Nexus S on if it remains in the background. This does not have." GPS-stress [00:16:22] says google translate [00:16:51] i think he means we aren't turning off the gps when we're done with nearme, which might or might not make sense [00:16:56] i *think* it's saying that the GPS receiver is still running if you background the app [00:17:11] yeah [00:18:04] i can see the little icon flashing away... [00:20:53] ahh .. ok [00:20:56] that makes sense [00:21:06] you know... [00:21:18] ... i can replace that activity with a web view now by removing a line of code ;) [00:21:26] ROFL [00:21:32] nice [00:23:37] it's still a little unstable tho [00:24:01] brion: tfinc i think I'm done with my refactor. Tested everything, seems to work :) [00:24:07] fancy [00:24:58] excellent [00:25:03] brion: review? [00:25:07] also i haven't tested on tablets... [00:25:28] yuvipanda, where's the refactor branch again? [00:25:39] * brion looks [00:25:40] I have one more thing I want to do (abstract out code that displays an 'overlay' into one object) but don't want to do that until we're done with our tablet optimized version [00:25:43] brion: it's in my fork [00:25:45] templating-refactor [00:25:45] templating-refactor? [00:25:48] excellent [00:25:55] brion: want me to push to official one? [00:26:35] tfinc: just come grab me whenever you want to have the meeting. [00:26:39] sure go ahead and i'll poke it on everything to test [00:27:17] yuvipanda: which meeting ? [00:27:34] tfinc: i got a request from you? [00:27:35] okay [00:27:36] #facepalm [00:27:39] that's jan 19th [00:27:42] yes :) [00:27:46] no rush [00:27:50] not today, as my computer tells me [00:28:05] just make sure you have the right time zone set :) [00:28:17] [WikipediaMobile] yuvipanda created objecty-refactor (+19 new commits): http://git.io/qzKZQg [00:28:17] [WikipediaMobile/objecty-refactor] Moved special pages partly to Templates - YuviPanda [00:28:17] [WikipediaMobile/objecty-refactor] Added separate class to maintain templates and compile them - YuviPanda [00:28:17] [WikipediaMobile/objecty-refactor] Simplified saved pages code - YuviPanda [00:28:22] brion: ^ [00:28:34] whee [00:28:42] Project WikipediaMobile - Nightly builds build #86: SUCCESS in 8 sec: http://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/WikipediaMobile%20-%20Nightly%20builds/86/ [00:28:44] the commit diffs are going to be awful, because I've moved around a *LOT* [00:28:59] interesting, it gets built no matter which branch you push to? [00:30:13] man all this device switching is driving me crazy [00:30:22] almost tapped something on my macbook screen to dismiss it [00:30:57] hehe [00:31:59] there goes my first sip of 'diet' coke. [00:32:02] tastes weird [00:32:14] so far so good [00:32:16] heh [00:32:40] brion: are you testing or reviewing? [00:33:10] yuvipanda: be careful .. you'll compete with preilly for those [00:33:18] testing [00:33:31] everything i've tried seems ok on phone & on tablet [00:33:33] this is good :D [00:33:36] cool :D [00:34:24] tfinc: preilly can have it all, I prefer normal coke to this any day. [00:34:38] hmm [00:35:47] wrong checkout :D [00:35:50] lemme fix that [00:36:06] oh, so whatever worked great was the wrong checkout? [00:36:07] okayface.jpg [00:36:22] :) [00:36:23] right [00:36:30] *cough* lemme try that again with the right branch [00:37:51] ok there's a little more to merge from master ;) [00:38:45] search ok on phone [00:39:02] brion: okay, rebasing again with your newer commits [00:39:16] whee, lots of conflicts [00:40:54] probably some little ones around the overlay show/hides [00:41:08] ok settings etc all seems ok, and is also improved :D [00:41:10] brion: yup, working on it [00:42:00] doing a quick peek over the commits for style [00:42:58] app/chrome split looks good [00:43:11] brion: yup, app is higher level, chrome is anything that does just 'ui' [00:43:39] the others are mostly just sane renames + fixes for using the template (settings.js is much saner now) [00:44:42] preilly: were supposed to get the copy back @ 5:30 [00:44:51] the change needs to happen @ 9 [00:44:59] how do you want to coordinate that? [00:45:22] if your not available .. i can do it .. i just need to know now so that i can cancel my class. [00:46:15] tfinc: I'm looking for things to do tonight, and hopefully will find something so I can stay over at the office. tell me if you need me to do anything [00:46:51] hmm [00:47:14] brion: is there anything with the iOS work that Yuvi could dive into ? [00:47:31] yuvipanda: the simplest thing would be to get us to really start using perfecto for testing [00:47:34] i've started adding some bz entries [00:47:47] iOS work with brion [00:47:52] philinje: feel free to jump in [00:47:59] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=33673&hide_resolved=1 [00:48:04] some are easier than others :) [00:48:33] tfinc: also, the refactor is 'done', unless brion finds something I've brainfarted on. [00:49:25] ohh [00:49:37] yuvipanda: … fix the build system so that i can have two versions of the app [00:49:44] that would be way awesome [00:49:53] yuvipanda: i can keep going .. if you need more :D [00:49:56] two versions as in? [00:50:03] production and beta [00:50:08] v1.0 and latest trunk [00:50:13] on the same phone [00:50:16] aha [00:50:19] signed (if were using google maps) [00:50:28] in terms of features, iOS needs sharing right now, also thinking about photo uploads [00:51:00] philinje: think we should first push the phonegap app as it is, feature complete, to the app store before adding more features [00:51:09] for sharing, we might try ShareKit which is a drop-in library with support for various services, it has a phonegap plugin which should be suitable: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33675 [00:53:18] yuvipanda: yes. we'd want to push a feature equivalent version into the iOS store [00:53:28] they'd get sharing, offline saving of pages, read in, etc [00:53:30] yes, if feature complete means same as the Android app [00:53:33] then we can build on top of that [00:53:37] +1 [00:53:38] yup [00:53:41] +1 [00:53:44] +1 [00:53:46] haha [00:53:54] +2 [00:53:58] I win [00:54:20] +∞ [00:54:22] now .. how do we want to handle release branches across iOS & android ? [00:54:42] preilly: --^ SOPA rollout questions [00:54:54] +∞+∞ (I win) [00:55:25] preilly: yours reduces to mine, so doesn't matter [00:55:39] yuvipanda: ha ha [00:55:46] :D [00:56:00] tfinc: I can handle it tonight [00:56:35] tfinc, easiest thing would be to do a 1.0-iOS branch for the ios parity release, then synchronize them from there out [00:57:12] so that'll include the refactors, the ios code, etc but no new features [00:59:06] tfinc, that reminds me [00:59:19] it's probably a good time to go separating the 'old' iphone items out from the 'new' iphone items in the bug tracker [00:59:50] +1 [01:02:18] brion: can that be done by date, roughly? [01:03:06] brion: pushed [01:03:11] whee [01:03:14] brb [01:03:44] philinje, could be a few days, could be a couple weeksish. depends on stabilization time perhaps :) [01:03:51] of course we've got .... busy times ahead [01:06:41] Uncaught TypeError: Object # has no method 'performSearch' at file:///android_asset/www/js/chrome.js:94 [01:08:24] brion: so what i'd like to do is restructure all of bugzilla for mobile [01:08:38] break it out per app->paltformat->feature [01:08:44] now that we have everyone here [01:08:48] we should just chat about decided on a layout [01:15:45] merge error in search.js [01:16:54] ok that looks fixable [01:18:46] [WikipediaMobile] brion pushed 20 new commits to master: http://git.io/T0uMnA [01:18:46] [WikipediaMobile/master] Moved special pages partly to Templates - YuviPanda [01:18:46] [WikipediaMobile/master] Added separate class to maintain templates and compile them - YuviPanda [01:18:46] [WikipediaMobile/master] Simplified saved pages code - YuviPanda [01:19:00] Project WikipediaMobile - Nightly builds build #87: SUCCESS in 6.6 sec: http://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/WikipediaMobile%20-%20Nightly%20builds/87/ [01:19:01] * yuvipanda: Moved special pages partly to Templates [01:19:01] * yuvipanda: Added separate class to maintain templates and compile them [01:19:02] * yuvipanda: Simplified saved pages code [01:19:02] * yuvipanda: 1. Moved all SavedPages functionality into an object [01:19:03] * yuvipanda: Refactored languageLinks [01:19:03] * yuvipanda: Moved spinner controls to chrome [01:19:04] * yuvipanda: Moved isConnected to network.js [01:19:04] * yuvipanda: Moved lightweightnotifications to chrome.js [01:19:05] * yuvipanda: Moved current title and url retreival methods to app.js [01:19:05] * yuvipanda: Renamed lightweightnotification to showNotification [01:19:06] * yuvipanda: Moved app history to own object [01:19:06] * yuvipanda: Moved search to its own object [01:19:07] * yuvipanda: Moved settings to its own file [01:19:07] * yuvipanda: Moved most UI things out of main into chrome.js [01:19:08] * yuvipanda: Fixed a few renames that were missed in the refactor [01:19:08] * yuvipanda: Fixes for search [01:19:09] * yuvipanda: Fixed settings.js refactor bugs [01:19:11] wheeeee [01:19:21] wheeeeeee [01:19:32] ok now i'll see what needs fixing up for web & ios [01:20:36] brion: is your primary motivation for web to try one platform, get into the chrome store, test out new html5/css/js in prep for MF ? [01:27:28] preilly: i'm going to head upstairs soon into the SOPA war room [01:27:34] do we have the fake banner staged anywhere ? [01:27:38] especially a big version [01:28:10] tfinc: on my laptop [01:28:19] I can commit it and push it to nomad [01:28:26] yeah [01:28:28] lets do that [01:28:42] tfinc: but, the message will be wrong — is that okay? [01:28:43] i want to link to that from http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:SOPA_initiative/Blackout_screen_designs [01:28:51] just show how big we can make it [01:33:22] [WikipediaMobile] brion pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/wIb0ow [01:33:22] [WikipediaMobile/master] fixes for web view - Brion Vibber [01:33:35] Project WikipediaMobile - Nightly builds build #88: SUCCESS in 6.7 sec: http://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/WikipediaMobile%20-%20Nightly%20builds/88/ [01:33:35] brion: fixes for web view [01:33:44] tfinc: http://nomad.tesla.usability.wikimedia.org/index.php/Japan [01:34:23] preilly: can that banner be bigger? not saying we will. just wanting to know how big we can go ? [01:34:40] tfinc: it could be double that height [01:34:44] k [01:34:48] jorm: --^ [01:34:54] thats what we have to work with [01:34:55] tfinc: but, that's about as big as we will want it [01:34:58] ok [01:35:05] hrn? [01:35:10] at twice the height we'll take up the majority of the screen [01:35:18] what do you need? [01:35:21] yeah [01:35:24] follow preillys link to see what we can do on mobile .. and forward on [01:35:27] i'm about to head upstairs [01:37:36] grr. wireless. [01:37:37] what do you need? [01:38:11] the copy [01:38:27] [WikipediaMobile] brion pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/0XofIw [01:38:27] [WikipediaMobile/master] merge hacky menu updates from web to ios - Brion Vibber [01:38:37] what about the copy? [01:38:43] ok there's a few regressions on tablet (with the show/hide state) which i'll fix up later [01:38:49] for that banner? [01:42:37] Project WikipediaMobile - Nightly builds build #89: SUCCESS in 8.1 sec: http://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/WikipediaMobile%20-%20Nightly%20builds/89/ [01:42:38] brion: merge hacky menu updates from web to ios [01:45:46] tfinc: http://test.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?banner=blackout [01:47:38] jorm: got it http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d4/WP_SOPA_banner.png/170px-WP_SOPA_banner.png [02:05:14] preilly: Mobile page and message [02:05:14] Banner message [02:05:15] IMAGINE A WORLD WITHOUT FREE KNOWLEDGE, [02:05:16] Right now, the U.S. Congress is considering legislation that could cripple this site and your ability to access information online. Learn more. [02:05:17] (link to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:SOPA_initiative/Mobile_Learn_more) [02:14:48] tfinc: http://nomad.tesla.usability.wikimedia.org/index.php/Japan [17:00:26] good morning, tfinc [17:05:12] hey MaxSem [17:22:43] good news everyone - we're about to have a Hebrew sandbox [17:56:40] greetings all [17:56:50] yuvipanda: you in the office ? [17:57:11] its wed so its time to check in on what were all focusing on [17:57:20] tfinc: nope, coming in in a few minutes. [17:57:30] tfinc: should I do the standup from here or end up there in about 15-20 mins? [17:57:56] yuvipanda, you're at the Triton? [17:58:04] MaxSem: yup [17:58:41] hmm [17:59:18] MaxSem: can you stick around for the extra 15-20 ? [17:59:32] np [17:59:51] lets wait till yuvi gets in the office then. these stand ups are always better in person [17:59:54] okay [18:00:05] cya in a bi [18:00:06] t [18:00:26] preilly: philinje : were delaying for 15-20 since yuvi is on his way [18:00:45] k [18:03:16] no prob [18:22:10] * tfinc wonders if yuvi got lost [18:23:43] quite possible [18:24:53] on my second day in SF I walked to the museum of modern arts near the WMF office, but took a wrong turn - when I realised it, it was easier to change plans [18:25:43] hehe [18:25:48] thats a fun detour [18:26:02] so if yuvi doesn't show up by 10:30 lets just do our check in [18:26:11] i have another meeting to get to then and can't wait any longer [18:26:12] 4 minutes [18:26:37] the detour was quite nice, I walked whole day, visited a lot of fun places [18:27:31] philinje: preilly --^ [18:39:19] is there a phone gap extension for us to hook into the native google search ? [18:39:46] preilly, how did you manage to make mobile-feeds public? [18:40:19] MaxSem: ? [18:40:50] 1) you allocated a public IP - how, it always failed for me? [18:41:33] MaxSem: oh, it was misconfigured in NOVA [18:41:52] MaxSem: there was nothing you could have done to make it work correctly [18:42:16] apparently, it still is that way [18:42:29] I couldn't allocate for mobile-enwp [18:43:47] ROFL http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page [18:44:38] Nice [18:46:16] ha ha [18:46:25] "Failed to allocate new public IP address." [18:46:39] MaxSem: we don't have another in the pool [18:46:57] MaxSem: I'll need to get Ryan to add another to the mobile pool [18:47:09] are IPs so precious? [18:47:45] we've not got many spare [18:48:37] then let's deploy FFeeds and reuse its IP [18:49:14] yuvi, where art thou? [18:49:35] haha [18:50:09] jorm: can you yell at yuvi to jump onto irc [18:50:22] done. [18:50:25] thank you [18:50:40] there he is [18:50:47] thanks [18:50:51] what did I miss? [18:50:55] yuvipanda: is there a phone gap extension for us to hook into the native google search ? [18:51:08] were getting some three star reviews due to not hooking into the native widget [18:51:30] i'm sure there would be [18:51:36] if not it's simple enough to write one [18:51:55] tfinc, yuvipanda, stuff that needs to be done next for GeoData: take a detailed look at its API, figure out if there's anything missing/needs a fix/whatever [18:52:19] MaxSem: is it deployed somewhere I can test? [18:52:21] yuvipanda: can you work with max to start testing ? [18:52:30] then, I could start investigating DB performance [18:52:39] yuvipanda, working on it [18:52:46] tfinc: sure [18:52:50] MaxSem: where can I find API docs? [18:53:15] Documentation? [18:53:20] What do you think this is? [18:53:28] ha ha [18:53:31] ROFL [18:53:42] best docs is ApiSandbox [18:53:58] there will be docs once we consider the API stable [18:53:59] ah, to be young and naive [18:54:06] naivé rather [18:54:29] no na[i with double dot]ve [18:54:38] ah [18:54:42] naïve [18:55:06] hehe, googling bought up the wikipedia page for naive :D [18:55:23] denied! [18:56:50] well, I was fast enough to see the ï before the banner flashed in [18:57:01] Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 157286400 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 380257 bytes) in /var/www/w/includes/parser/Parser.php on line 440 [19:03:41] philinje: how up to date is this list https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31805 ? [19:06:19] tfinc, i think we would have to do that [native search provider] with java code [19:06:30] i stuck a couple notes in a bug somewhere [19:06:33] MaxSem: in http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/FeaturedFeeds/FeaturedFeedsWMF.php?revision=108099&view=markup you probably shouldn't use $wgDBname directly instead use wfGetDB and call the getDBname method [19:06:52] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33356 [19:06:58] has a link to android dev docs [19:07:10] tfinc: 31805 should be current [19:07:52] philinje: ok. i added native search as were getting dinged on reviews for not having it [19:08:03] preilly, it's possibly before wfGetDB is available [19:08:14] or not? [19:08:44] MaxSem: I wouldn't think so [19:08:58] tfinc: native search for 1.1? [19:09:03] yuvipanda: yes [19:09:18] should probably start making things depend on the 1.1 tracking bug [19:09:21] big question. do we want to work on 1.1 for iOS and Android concurrently or one at a time? [19:09:36] this would fall AFTER we have the iOS app ported [19:09:52] yuvipanda: feel free. i am [19:09:57] I vote for concurrency [19:10:01] tfinc: i'd like to think of it as being concurrent, rather than sequential [19:10:12] 1. do feature, 2. test on Android 3. test on iOS [19:10:17] 4. go to 1 [19:10:24] i prefer that too. that way we can see what platform specific issues we hit right away [19:10:29] rather then wasting time [19:10:36] tfinc, I'm not out of things to do yet, but I'd like to start preparing for my next task [19:10:36] good point [19:11:00] MaxSem: here programatic api access to mf [19:11:01] :D [19:11:09] that'll make brion and yuvipanda happy [19:11:11] MaxSem: do you know when I could have our geo API up for testing? [19:11:14] an approximate timeline? [19:11:37] yuvipanda, preilly is working with Ryan on making it publicly accessible [19:11:46] ah, okay! [19:12:00] yuvipanda, before that, you could just tunnel into it [19:13:00] MaxSem: hmm, not sure if that'd help when I'm doing mobile testing. [19:13:22] first, you need to try it manually [19:14:46] tfinc, specs? [19:15:19] brion: yuvipanda : could you work with MaxSem to settle on what you would need in our apps to pull content block by block ? [19:15:31] for instance .. wanting the body but not the footer [19:15:38] generally not wasting peoples bandwidth [19:15:46] and throwing away less page content [19:16:03] tfinc: yup! [19:16:05] like api.php?action=parse&format=mobile ? [19:16:26] yes, we'd also want to move the current json api in MF to be a real MW api. [19:16:32] preilly can help you with that [19:16:39] i can write up a project page if you really need it [19:16:59] tfinc: maybe you should start on that and brion and I can help fill it up. [19:17:09] to the ether pads! [19:19:42] brion: did we surface the menus in the tablet version at all? [19:20:39] yuvipanda, the regular android menu is there [19:20:50] using the compat button down in the bottom-left [19:21:02] right now the ios-style menu is in the ios/platform.js and web/platform.js [19:21:07] we should generalize it i think [19:21:14] then use a customized version of it for anroid tablet [19:22:14] brion: ah right. [19:22:25] am wondering if we should do something about the overlays too. Look tiny. [19:38:21] [WikipediaMobile] brion pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/8wbWEA [19:38:21] [WikipediaMobile/master] Fix bundle display name, name to 'Wikipedia', 'Wikipedia Mobile' instead of 'Wikipedia-iOS' - Brion Vibber [19:39:45] Project WikipediaMobile - Nightly builds build #90: SUCCESS in 10 sec: http://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/WikipediaMobile%20-%20Nightly%20builds/90/ [19:39:45] brion: Fix bundle display name, name to 'Wikipedia', 'Wikipedia Mobile' instead of 'Wikipedia-iOS' [19:48:10] tfinc, looks like we have some scroll-related problems on iOS 4, which we can probably work around by conditionally using iscroll [19:48:18] it should be a lot faster on ios than on android [19:48:24] thanks to hardware acceleration in the dang browser ;) [19:48:44] fancy [19:48:46] the current app is compatible to ios 3, i'm not sure we can duplicate that or want to [19:48:52] i'm eager to try the betas when your ready [19:49:04] my xcode will only simulate 4.3 and 5.0 [19:54:16] preilly: can you be around @ 9 to switch out and/or change the banner? [19:54:24] we'll see what the community choose to do [19:54:28] they might want to keep it [19:54:47] tfinc: I can [19:54:51] thanks [19:55:07] tfinc: we will also need to flush the mobile varnish cache as well [19:55:39] we'll want to make sure that someone from ops is available then [19:55:50] tfinc: yeah [20:12:29] brion: sent a pull req, tablet version looks fine to me [20:48:12] http://lifehacker.com/5877272/wikipedia-brings-offline-article-saving-location+based-search-and-more-to-android [20:48:13] Yay [20:48:22] Oh look, SOPA [20:48:35] "Not to mention it's another way to access Wikipedia during its SOPA blackout." [20:49:51] lovely [20:50:07] the install base of that is about 2,000 devices right now [20:51:17] so a small audience compared to the desktop :) [20:52:50] but i really would have wanted that press to show up AFTER our blackout [21:40:58] brion_: check out my pull req? [21:41:03] looking it over now [21:41:20] looks good [21:41:23] [WikipediaMobile] brion pushed 4 new commits to master: http://git.io/Z9v_fA [21:41:23] [WikipediaMobile/master] About page fixes in tablet view - YuviPanda [21:41:23] [WikipediaMobile/master] Removed long undetected stray " - YuviPanda [21:41:23] [WikipediaMobile/master] Removed a redundant function - YuviPanda [21:41:27] we could probably move twoColumnView() into chrome [21:41:28] woot .. people are using our feedback email link [21:41:34] yay [21:41:36] nice [21:41:47] Hi there [21:41:47]