[00:00:04] if you scroll down to In the news, you can see the difference [00:00:56] YuviPanda: what's a quick way to test the cache fix? [00:01:16] philinje: find a sandbox somewhere, edit it in desktop and view it in here [00:04:40] philinje: okay, ICS is not a regression [00:04:44] since that bug was in v1.0.1 too [00:04:48] now let me test v1.0 [00:06:51] 1.0 works [00:07:04] YuviPanda: which bug? [00:07:17] philinje: back button not working on ICS [00:07:23] scroll up, preilly reported that [00:08:03] Astagi: were you able to find something to work on? [00:08:16] YuviPanda: just saw an old Featured Article, then when I reopened the app the right one appeared [00:09:19] and there is no linespacing problem [00:09:29] weird [00:12:00] YuviPanda I would like to start working on prettify the app at first if it's ok, adding some jquery effect.. didn't have a deep look at bugs yet, if you have something to assign me it's ok for me ^^ [00:12:34] Astagi: we are currently using zepto, you could perhaps convert us to using jQuery first :) [00:13:01] Astagi: also, i'm not so sure about using jQuery effects at all - because we need to support lower end devices where transitions, etc would just suck battery + be very slow [00:15:03] YuviPanda I see, that's true ^^ I'm looking at buglist, anyway if you have some idea let me know.. [00:15:24] Astagi: we curate our bug list aggressively so that its easy to see where you can jump in [00:16:29] tfinc ok ;) [00:16:43] YuviPanda: are you looking at 1.02? I had some kind of cache problem [00:17:38] Astagi: so you saw the rendering problems in 1.02 but not in 1.01? [00:18:45] philinje yep.. this on android 3.2.1 on tablet, doesn't happen on htc wildfire with android 2.3 [00:19:56] oh, 3.2.1 is a little old, i think Yuvi has been able to solve some problems for 3.2 but not all [00:20:02] philinje: YuviPanda i see that 'Older android versions should be supported if possible' has landed on V1.1 .. how did the div -> iFrame transition make it easier to support Android 2.1 ? [00:21:48] Astagi: what sort of thing do you want to work on? We are eager to kill bugs at present [00:22:56] tfinc: not sure, maybe Brion knows (calling Brion) [00:23:13] philinje: no rush, just want to know [00:23:21] i'm looking through the tracking bugs to see whats being lined up [00:23:48] Astagi: if you want to consider some features for the future, take a look here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mobile_Projects/features#New_features_for_Android_app [00:24:00] philinje yep that's ok for me, will work on bugfixing, no problem. I though you have some feature to implement to.. [00:24:26] tfinc: perhaps, will test it out on an emulator [00:25:04] philinje ahah was just talking about it :D ok thanks, will have a look at it too! [00:25:08] tfinc: this back button bug was present in 1.0.1 as well [00:25:12] YuviPanda: so how are we looking with 1.0.2-RC1 ? [00:25:17] k [00:25:20] Astagi: is good as well [00:26:15] YuriPanda ^^ [00:26:20] ah [00:26:23] Astagi: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=31805&hide_resolved=1 is good as well [00:26:35] tfinc: it's the 'back-button-not-ideal-when-offline' bug [00:29:37] ah [00:30:57] hahaha [00:30:59] i've a fix [00:31:03] ICS browser is so fast [00:31:10] that by the time we reset the cache settings [00:31:14] it had already made the request [00:34:32] YuviPanda ok nice ^^ [00:35:11] Astagi: how about https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32916 [00:35:40] Astagi: that's same as you added for history, but for saved pages [00:35:56] just assign to yourself if you want to work on it, and mark it as Assigned, at the bottom [00:37:34] i'm seeing a handful of review comments that on some phone we only work on 3G and not WIFI [00:37:40] has anyone seen that happen? [00:38:22] YuviPanda: so .. any blocker on releasing 1.0.2 ? [00:38:27] issues that were not in 1.0.1 [00:38:54] nope [00:39:03] YuviPanda that's true ^^ nice will fix it for now.. thanks! [00:39:23] Astagi: thank you! [00:40:53] tfinc: are the WiFi comments about the bug where typing in search field with 3G off asks if network connection is available, even when WiFi is on [00:41:02] something like that [00:41:07] np ^^ [00:41:07] philinje: ahh that one [00:41:09] whats the bug on it? [00:41:58] tfinc: we fixed that in 1.1, iirc [00:42:06] ok. i'm going to release 1.0.2 unless someone has any other issue [00:42:08] i think no one open-end one yet [00:42:10] bug happened when you transitioned between network ocnnectivity issue [00:42:12] *issues [00:42:26] s/issues/types/ [00:42:26] for example: HTC desire hd keeps saying no network whilst using WiFi [00:42:44] i'll open a bug now [00:42:44] philinje: does it still do that? [00:43:28] might be specific to HTC desire, as it seemed those comments were HTC related [00:43:29] philinje: even if its fixed. open one and resolve under 1.1 .. that way we can easily create our change log from bugs resolved [00:44:02] i saw a slight caching problem on 1.02 [00:44:21] the home page thet opened at first was from a long time ago - quite weird [00:45:44] philinje: the first time you loaded the app post upgrade ? [00:47:27] i'm holding on the release till i understand that mre [00:48:36] yes, it was the first time I loaded the 1.02 app, and that page had compressed linespacing in the first paragraph - an old bug [00:48:51] so I thought there was a regression. but then I realized the page was old [00:49:16] when i backed out of the app and re-opened, it opened to the current home page with proper lincespacing [00:49:28] preilly: nice itinerary :) [00:50:44] i just re-installed it and no problem, but maybe my cache has been updated [00:50:58] probably a problem with my cache in particular [00:51:04] philinje: k, i'm not going to block on this then [00:51:25] ok [00:53:07] tfinc: ha ha [00:53:37] we'll need a where is preilly in the world tracker [00:54:19] preilly: and you and john have committed to a schedule? [00:54:27] i saw some mails about that [00:57:28] preilly: --^ [00:57:45] bug 33939 about network connectivity issues [00:57:56] thanks philinje [00:58:48] nice [00:59:16] alolita1: can you nudge preilly [00:59:52] tfinc: I've been nudged [00:59:56] :) [01:00:04] so whats the training plan look like for jon .. which days [01:00:06] tfinc: yes, Jon and I have it all planned out [01:00:58] tfinc: we are going to meet Thursday 16th all day at the UK chapter office [01:01:22] then 17th and 18th [01:01:43] then again on 23rd and 24th... [01:02:12] and the night of the 15th for drinks ;) [01:02:55] nice [01:03:02] that should be fun [01:03:14] your becoming our dedicated trainer in England [01:04:25] preilly: ask me about cool things to do [01:05:10] philinje: will do [01:05:16] tfinc: ha ha [01:05:27] 1.0.2 has been activated in the android market [01:05:33] waiting for it to get picked up [01:05:39] tfinc: nice! [01:05:44] 431,385 total installs :D [01:06:02] how is the Google search integration by Tpt? [01:06:45] philinje: it's been merged in [01:06:48] in the nightlies [01:07:22] YuviPanda: hows the code [01:07:31] i'm eager to compare it to bobs [01:07:39] tfinc: search provider was quite neat, i didn't have to touch it [01:07:46] but guess we'll have to let alolita1 nudge bob some more so that we can look at it [01:07:59] YuviPanda: is the url handler on master? [01:08:03] tfinc: yes [01:08:06] url handler is on [01:08:07] thats super awesome [01:08:08] go team [01:08:10] and so is the search provider [01:08:23] i'm now trying to fix the ICS bug on master [01:08:23] tfinc: bob said he would commit his code tonight - hes been working on it [01:08:25] :-) [01:08:31] sweet [01:08:37] Bob said something about latency problems with our app, so he was working around that [01:08:53] does Tpt's feature work well, and fast enough? [01:08:53] tfinc: poke steve about video :) [01:09:07] yup - hes been looking at the code and has a bunch of suggestions/perf tweaks [01:09:53] YuviPanda: poke much — geesh [01:10:02] YuviPanda: mailed [01:10:05] your cc'd [01:10:13] i'm a shameless self promoter! [01:10:34] lush [01:14:45] +1 [01:14:45] time to go to bed for me men! ^^ cya tomorrow, will continue fixing the app! [01:14:50] thanks for now! [01:14:52] byez [01:15:10] seeya Astagi [01:15:25] later Astagi! [01:18:40] MaxSem: it's 5:18am Wednesday (MSK) - Time in Moscow, Russia [01:18:46] MaxSem: why are you on IRC! [01:18:59] early riser [01:19:42] tried to sleep, couldn't, got up to tire myself to death [01:19:59] fair enough [01:27:11] MaxSem: i have the same problem, i hate it [01:27:44] embrace it [01:27:48] go to sleep at 7am, wake up at 2pm [01:27:49] :) [01:28:09] my problem is partly because on my previous work I used to get up and go to bed early, now it's the opposite [01:30:44] 1.0.2 is now live on the market [01:31:40] awesome [01:32:05] tfinc: we should celebrate when we pass the 1 million mark [01:32:19] ok .. lets take bets about WHEN it'll happen [01:32:36] I think it will happen on Friday [01:32:42] around 4:30 [01:32:47] heh heh [01:32:48] extrapolating my luck with timing I guess it'll be about 5 minutes before I board, so I'll know it happened but will be on a flight for the rest of the 24 hours [01:33:03] s/rest of the/next/ [01:33:07] YuviPanda: pessimist [01:34:03] it's mostly about setting expectations so low that when they're beat, you go 'waaaah!' [01:34:19] not sure from where, but I'm hearing mario tunes here. [01:34:25] i'm going to say next Tuesday [01:34:27] :) [01:34:27] they feel slightly off key though [01:34:35] tfinc: that's exactly what I said too :P [01:34:37] now to base it off of total or net installs hmm [01:34:47] the first is totally misleading but we is updated more often [01:34:53] YuviPanda, what's your flight route? [01:34:55] we can do two targets [01:35:01] #of installs and #of active users [01:35:09] MaxSem: sfo -> london -> bangalore -> chennai [01:35:19] ewwww [01:35:28] that's about ~25 hours i guess [01:35:44] no flights over Pacific? [01:36:10] MaxSem: the two options the travel fokls gave me were both over europe [01:36:32] that's rough [01:36:52] MaxSem: you were just copied on an email about the Hindi feed [01:37:10] yup, alreqady read [01:37:47] gaaah phonegap [01:37:53] that or gaah javascript [01:40:59] tfinc: if patrick is around you, nudge him that his phone is with me [01:41:06] and he should pick it up befeore he leaves [02:03:00] tfinc: http://www.doodle.com/z5382vupiybxyduz [09:14:19] hello wikipedia-mobile! i just added my credit card to my twilio account so now everybody can use our sms-phone gateway from the hackathon. it's 1cent per text and 2cents per minute. =D the phone number to text a query to is: 415 799 4519 [09:19:35] hi judy! [09:19:45] hi heatherw_ ! [18:00:46] [WikipediaMobile] brion pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/dssHiw [18:00:46] [WikipediaMobile/master] Fix bug 33692: disable compatibility zoom mode on Android 3.2+ tablets - Brion Vibber [18:01:03] Project WikipediaMobile - Nightly builds build #130: SUCCESS in 9.8 sec: http://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/WikipediaMobile%20-%20Nightly%20builds/130/ [18:01:03] brion: Fix bug 33692: disable compatibility zoom mode on Android 3.2+ tablets [18:01:20] philinje, hi [18:01:35] greetings all [18:01:39] hi [18:02:09] i'm camping out at home today .. philinje can you start the call when your guys are ready in the office ? [18:03:19] hi all [18:03:30] hey Astagi [18:03:39] tfinc, I've prepared an announcement at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:FeaturedFeeds/WMF_deployment/blogpost would be great if you added a couple of sentences why it's a mobile project [18:03:51] hi tfinc ^^ [18:04:44] ok [18:05:11] Astagi: what are you hacking on today? [18:06:09] hey people! [18:06:24] tfinc: i think i should dial in today, will be ~20 mins before I head in for the office [18:06:26] hey YuviPanda [18:06:35] I'm remote too [18:06:40] preilly: yo [18:06:41] ah, cool [18:07:03] tfinc I fixed bug 32916 and put together an old pull request ^^ I'll find something else to fix today no problem ^^ [18:07:12] preilly: philinje are you guys in the office? [18:07:16] hi yuvipanda [18:07:44] Astagi: awesome! [18:07:47] i'll look at that asap [18:07:52] Astagi: nice! [18:08:13] thanks ^^ [18:08:31] hey tot [18:08:36] err tpt [18:08:55] Tpt: I'm eager to try out your qsb work [18:09:20] * tfinc wonders who's at the office [18:09:25] tfinc: qsb? [18:09:37] quick search box [18:09:58] ah, yes. [18:10:05] tfinc: yo [18:10:06] tfinc: it's been in the nightlies for a while ;) [18:10:31] tfinc: I'm in the office [18:10:35] YuviPanda: I'm getting tired of having to install and uninstall [18:10:42] we need to figure out how to keep two side by side [18:10:45] tfinc: philinje is here too [18:10:50] yuvipanda have a look at my other pull request when you can, should fix 33621 . Seems to exist some lawnchair bug, I'm discussing about it with the father of the lib, I'm attending some news from him [18:11:02] sweet. philinje : can you start the call ? [18:11:08] Astagi: saw that, will get to it soon [18:11:21] tfinc: Thanks for integration of a screenshot of my upload module in this : http://wikitech.wikimedia.org/view/File:PhoneGapMeetup_2012_-_Wikipedia_Android_PhoneGap_-_Tomasz_and_Yuvi.pdf [18:11:29] :D [18:11:58] yuvipanda oh that's nice thanks ^^ [18:12:51] tfinc: There is a problem for the QSB : the search is only in English because I don't see how know the preference's language in java size code. [18:13:05] i'm sure YuviPanda can help you with that [18:13:26] we pull lang preference for near by [18:13:31] so you should be able to do that too [18:14:13] philinje: are you starting the call .. if not i'll do it [18:14:26] Tpt: will figure out something :) [18:15:16] oops [18:15:45] sorry, thought it wasn't happening, but i can do it now [18:16:03] For the nearby that is send with intent. For the search we have to know this preference even if the javascript part is not launch. [18:16:35] Tpt: true, so I was thinking of having it propogated through to android preferences [18:16:36] probably the thing to do is to have a native android way to store it, and do that through a plugin whenever we update the pref [18:16:47] philinje: why wouldn't it happen .. its wed? [18:16:53] yuvipanda: where are you? [18:16:59] pchang: read backscroll [18:17:10] pchang: in the room, i'll be leaving in ~10 mins, so figured i'd call in then leave [18:17:19] brion +1 [18:17:38] tfinc: you need to start using three dots instead of two everywhere [18:17:56] http://openbbnews.wordpress.com/2012/01/25/wikipediamobile-on-playbook/ !?!?! [18:18:01] ok [18:18:18] moving to meeting room [18:19:08] tfinc: \o/ [18:19:35] brion: --^ check out that blog post [18:19:45] can you repaste that link? switched computers [18:19:45] yuvipanda: Ok; Thanks. [18:19:50] http://openbbnews.wordpress.com/2012/01/25/wikipediamobile-on-playbook/ [18:20:04] squeeeee [18:20:48] brion_: are you at the office? [18:20:55] yeah [18:20:59] i LOVE when stuff like this happens [18:25:16] philinje: no calendar invite [18:27:03] wee .. [18:27:26] :D [18:28:44] tfinc: shall i go ahead and merge the blackberry code? it just pulls in the deps and adds the appropriate phonegap.js file so should be a safe merge. we can test it once we know more about running/testing the bb/playbook stuff [18:28:59] do it! [18:29:05] we can test it with the web tools [18:29:14] brion: is there a playbook in our online testing tool [18:29:33] philinje: ^^ [18:30:32] i haven't done anything, maybe Yuvi has [18:31:19] sup jorm [18:31:22] tfinc: the calendar entry got added next week by accident, sorry [18:31:41] no wonder people's calendars were so open [18:31:55] philinje: thats less useful with all of us being gone :) [18:32:24] checking on perfecto [18:32:43] no playbook :P [18:32:50] can we do it Friday? I'll send an invite [18:33:12] brion_: damn [18:33:52] alright, i'm leaving for the office. cya soon [18:33:55] might work on other bb 5 or higher devices…. in theory [18:34:20] i can put a playbook on order if we have nothing else [18:34:27] i mean we should at least try it on a real device [18:34:40] yeah [18:34:45] i guess the contributor works for RIM... [18:34:58] maybe they can send one ;) [18:35:07] hehe [18:36:52] tfinc: are you in on the roadmap mtg? [18:37:13] it needs to be moved to tomorrow instead of next week [18:37:27] Friday @ 2pm .. i'm in [18:37:34] ok good [18:37:50] should we do a shout out on mobile-l@ to see if anyone else wants to join ? [18:38:15] we can also just publish the notes after [18:38:46] join the meeting? [18:38:55] philinje: yeah [18:39:07] if any community members want to join [18:39:20] like an office hours, or just if folks want to listen in? [19:24:13] somebody renamed files breaking the iOS build [19:25:16] looks like it was derk-jan [19:25:57] thedj: --^ [19:26:10] he's wandering around SF today [19:26:55] ok think i've fixed it [19:27:25] philinje: if were meeting with erik @ 1 on friday .. wouldn't it make sense to do the android roadmap before that ? [19:28:26] tfinc: we need to have times set up for the wiktionarymobile team. There's a doodl at http://www.doodle.com/z5382vupiybxyduz, but we may need a new one. [19:28:53] what time zone are these in? [19:29:19] Amgine: --^ [19:30:14] Pacific timezone (Canada/Vancouver) [19:30:40] brion: preilly can you guys take some slots as part of your 20% time ? [19:30:48] http://www.doodle.com/z5382vupiybxyduz [19:30:51] I think there's a menu to adjust the tz at the top. [19:31:01] [WikipediaMobile] brion pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/qA1Y9w [19:31:01] [WikipediaMobile/master] fix ios build for moved files - Brion Vibber [19:31:10] actually .. i already see a preilly there [19:31:16] Project WikipediaMobile - Nightly builds build #131: SUCCESS in 8.5 sec: http://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/WikipediaMobile%20-%20Nightly%20builds/131/ [19:31:17] brion: fix ios build for moved files [19:31:18] spiff [19:31:24] i'm assuming Patrick == preilly [19:31:28] is that the case Amgine ? [19:31:39] * yuvipanda checks logs [19:31:52] No, patrick = pfhsomething student from Waterloo. [19:31:55] tfinc: nope [19:32:02] Patrick Reilly == preilly [19:32:09] preilly: hows your 20% time look to help the UCOSP team ? [19:32:21] tfinc: I filled in a slot [19:32:24] Amgine: did you send out a summary email of the project? [19:33:24] No. Will do a summary of the sprint today. [19:33:25] i'm still waiting on that to really see our commitment [19:33:41] either this place is warming up or I'm getting used to the cold [19:33:45] down to one layer of clothing [19:34:27] The fork of wpMobile is set up and working; they have a couple features at poc, not yet integrated to the git. [19:34:51] And Tony needs help figuring out how to remove the gps stuff. [19:35:45] Amgine: so i'm going to say this again. I wanted an email from you to summarize whats happening, who's involved, how this is going to work so that i could share it with everyone else before we got strarted [19:35:49] make sure to get that to us [19:36:00] kk. Will start that now. [19:36:04] thanks [19:37:36] quick review, please? https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/109937 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/110002 [19:38:48] MaxSem: done [19:39:55] brion: got any 20% time for the UCOSP devs ? i see that you usually do tuesdays [19:40:06] what's needed tfinc ? [19:40:15] Amgine: you should feel free to check against http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_engineering_20%25_policy [19:40:18] for who's available [19:40:25] code reviews here and there for the Wiktionary app [19:41:42] my usual tuesdays should be available then if they have time then :D [19:42:13] Amgine: no need for me to play information router. you see what brion has time on tuesdays. schedule with him as needed [19:42:26] the mw.org page has all of his time [19:43:50] Keep in mind I was volunteered to help on this project because no one else could do so, but with the understanding from the outset that I am *not* an experienced MW developter. [19:48:15] ok .. time to work on the blog post [19:48:47] preilly, thank you [19:48:55] philinje: i'm wrapping up my kiwix sync up [19:49:11] MaxSem: np [19:49:16] pass on any notes you may have for the wikipedia menu discussion [19:54:45] hmm .. http://www.appbrain.com/app/wikipedia/org.wikipedia [19:54:51] has anyone ever heard of this site ? [19:55:39] tfinc: i remember using that a long time ago when android market sucked much more than it does today [19:56:21] they mailed me trying to make me think that their portal had contributed to our downloads [19:56:32] their just scraping everything thats happening on the android market [19:56:40] yuvipanda: I think it may be good to provide a widget with the android app in order to provide a dedicated search input on the launcher. It's a feature request by people in Android Market comments. In a future version it may provide information from the watchlist. [19:56:45] and putting their own ads on top of it [19:56:55] tfinc there are a lot of sites that automatically fetch android apps from market [19:57:07] they have ads? [19:57:14] yuvipanda: yes [19:57:15] oh, adblock [19:57:16] tfinc yep exactly [19:57:41] Tpt: that's a requested feature, yes - but i'm not sure what a widget on the phone would be [19:57:50] featured feeds/article of the day, perhaps? [19:58:27] [WikipediaMobile] brion pushed 3 new commits to master: http://git.io/qYj2LQ [19:58:27] [WikipediaMobile/master] Improve accessibility for iOS & web voice readers: title attributes for toolbar buttons - Brion Vibber [19:58:27] [WikipediaMobile/master] Improve accessibility (bug 33933): set language on language links in 'read in' list - Brion Vibber [19:58:27] [WikipediaMobile/master] but 33940 - disable ARC in iOS build - Brion Vibber [19:58:41] Project WikipediaMobile - Nightly builds build #132: SUCCESS in 7.2 sec: http://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/WikipediaMobile%20-%20Nightly%20builds/132/ [19:58:41] * brion: Improve accessibility for iOS & web voice readers: title attributes for toolbar buttons [19:58:42] * brion: Improve accessibility (bug 33933): set language on language links in 'read in' list [19:58:42] * brion: but 33940 - disable ARC in iOS build [19:58:53] yuvipanda: Yes. When it will be implements on most of WP. [19:59:11] Tpt: maxsem is working on it, i think it should be displayed pretty soon [19:59:28] yuvipanda: i suppose i can imagine a search box widget, it just seems silly to me when you can already tap the app launcher and do the same thing [19:59:35] +1 [19:59:35] * brion_ is not much of a widget guy :) [19:59:39] veeery soon [19:59:51] yuvipanda: Ok [20:00:30] Tpt: we'd need a phonegap plugin that lets us access SharedPreferences, so we can persist language there [20:00:47] excellent [20:01:51] yuvipanda: Yes. I think the better way is to store the preferences in Android's system when they are set. [20:02:29] It's an setPreference(key, value) function that store the preference in the system. [20:03:57] damn, no hashar [20:04:19] Tpt: that's one way to do it too, yes. Should be easy to hook into our current preferences.js [20:05:19] http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/data/data-storage.html#pref [20:06:04] [WikipediaMobile] brion pushed 2 new commits to master: http://git.io/WOAJjQ [20:06:04] [WikipediaMobile/master] Added translation error-offline-prompt - 4ndreaSt4gi [20:06:04] [WikipediaMobile/master] Merge pull request #121 from 4ndreaSt4gi/minfix2 - Brion Vibber [20:06:17] Project WikipediaMobile - Nightly builds build #133: SUCCESS in 7.4 sec: http://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/WikipediaMobile%20-%20Nightly%20builds/133/ [20:06:18] * stagi.andrea: Show offline alert only when you press search fixes #32349 [20:06:18] * stagi.andrea: Added translation error-offline-prompt [20:28:03] tfinc: hi [20:28:14] Tpt: are you workingg on the preferences bits or do you want me to? [20:28:43] Astagi: can you commit the clear history/saved pages stuff with separate translation messages? [20:29:09] Astagi: translatewiki folks don't like that :) [20:29:20]