[09:03:49] yuvipanda: hi [09:04:07] shravan: heya [09:06:07] yuvipanda: i tried out the effect to disable the menu bar yesterday [09:06:11] its working decently. [09:06:25] i will perfect it by tonight then you can check [09:06:51] disable the search bar you mean [09:07:37] yuvipanda: yes, in my current implementation the search bar slides up when not needed [09:07:46] mmm nice [12:54:43] MaxSem: how's it going [12:54:43] ? [12:55:50] hi preilly [13:54:55] yuvipanda check you email :D [14:13:37] Astagi: heya [14:13:37] yes, I did [14:13:43] checking out why the relative addressing isn't working now [14:14:36] #gsoc is usually a graveyard right now [14:14:39] nobody around [14:38:47] heya yuvipanda :) [14:39:03] well it's really strange I know [14:39:04] heya [14:39:17] sorry was out for a moment :) [14:39:48] I was looking around some forum [14:40:14] seems the only way :| maybe the relative address points somewhere else.. [14:40:46] I think we shouldn't loose much time on this :) [14:44:09] Astagi: 'start with no', no? :) [14:44:18] just give me a bit of time, i'll get that sorted out [14:44:54] what you mean with start with no yuvipanda? [14:46:37] same as 'best code is no code' :) [14:47:07] :D [14:47:10] I see [14:47:41] I had to spend an insanely stupidly large amount of time getting iOS dev env up [14:47:45] so behind on this [14:48:40] do you start working on ios? [14:48:52] I mean ios port.. [14:49:09] yes, now that beta1 for android is out, i'll have to start on iOS [14:49:18] but have to figure out a branching strategy for 1.1 [14:49:20] MaxSem: are you around? [14:49:25] don't want to block future work because of this [14:49:57] yup [14:50:06] MaxSem: What do you think of this: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1486277 [14:50:36] MaxSem: I was playing around with getting rid of the need to use output buffering in the Mobile Frontend extension [14:50:36] I see yuvipanda [14:50:45] Astagi: so what i'd want to do is to cut a branch [14:50:52] so work on solidifying 1.1 can go on [14:51:02] without causing problems for you/shravan working on new features [14:51:14] yep so merge all in a unique branch.. [14:51:14] preilly, I have no experience with skinning. but yes, I also think that output buffering should go [14:51:51] MaxSem: okay, thanks [14:52:06] MaxSem: I'll run it by someone else [14:52:07] as a bonus, special simplified mobile skin should also render faster than vector [14:52:28] preilly, try Dantman or Trevor [14:52:37] MaxSem: thanks! [14:54:51] ok yuvipanda :) we can do a thing, I will go on working on about, there's a lot of work to do .. when we find a better solution for paths I'll make the change [14:55:08] Astagi: sure, go ahead with the current hard-coded URL [14:55:09] let's make it parallel :P [14:55:33] Astagi: and we'll fix that before merging [14:56:11] yep yuvipanda :P [15:02:32] oh btw there's a beta version to test :P [15:03:22] Astagi: I know, emailed it out :) [15:03:25] should tweet it as well [15:04:41] yep yep :) tonight will test it and report all bugs if any.. have to retweet it! [15:04:48] yes :D [15:09:32] don't find your tweet :/ anyway created a new one np :) hope to hire some colleague in the circle ;) [15:11:09] Astagi: just managed to get access [15:11:12] will be tweeting in a bit [15:12:14] oh sorry my bad :P I understood you did it :D [15:13:44] yuvipanda: reminder re: WiktionaryMobile mid-term meeting in 2.75 hours [15:14:11] Amgine: thank you, metric time user :P [15:14:42] decimal for the win: I gotz 10 fingers. [15:15:07] :D [15:21:01] okay off for dinner [15:21:03] brb [15:37:14] wow, jdlrobson was busy lately [15:37:20] great work! [15:37:48] thx.. just trying to get some tests for opensearch.js [16:43:41] [WikipediaMobile] yuvipanda pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/o4mrMA [16:43:41] [WikipediaMobile/master] Refactored out mention of wikipedia URL - YuviPanda [17:03:26] Amgine: poke [17:04:09] [17:04:25] wassup yuvipanda? [17:04:25] Amgine: pm [17:04:28] ? [17:04:32] sure [17:31:12] jdlrobson: are you working? [17:31:29] jdlrobson: jk [17:32:48] preilly: hi [17:32:57] philinje: hello [17:33:04] how's London? [17:33:09] cold [17:33:15] philinje: it's good [17:33:26] philinje: jdlrobson and I are working right now [17:33:50] do you guys want to join the stand-up in 20 min? [17:36:32] philinje: we aren't really in a good place to do a call right now [17:37:02] are you in a pub? [17:37:36] philinje: no, we are working from jdlrobson friends office [17:38:11] ok [17:53:33] MaxSem: hi [17:53:41] hi [17:53:44] yuvipanda: howdy [17:53:55] philinje: heya [17:53:59] should we have a check-in? [17:54:12] philinje: yes [17:54:26] ok one sec [17:54:30] Amgine: how long before the wiktionary standup? [17:59:25] Now, yuvipanda [17:59:35] Amgine: which channel again? [17:59:41] #wiktionary-mobile [17:59:42] #Wiktionary-mobile [18:17:32] philinje: do you have any news on brion's availability? [18:41:42] MaxSem: here is a page to keep an eye on (in draft form currently) [18:41:44] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MobileFrontend/Photo_upload#Nearby_article_needing_a_photo_.28and_geo-location_data.29 [18:42:09] yuvipanda: sorry, i think Brion is a bit of mystery these days [18:42:17] isn't he always :) [18:42:27] brion__: hi [18:43:40] hexmode: ping [18:45:53] Amgine: just got here: pong! [18:46:24] hexmode: we're trying to figure out how to best organize bugs for the different mobile projects [18:46:29] in this case, wikipedia vs wiktionary [18:46:38] ah, yes [18:46:40] Wiktionary wins. [18:46:48] at this point, wiktionary is a volunteer developed project, but they'd like to use bugzilla as well [18:46:54] I think we should have Mobile App product [18:47:02] with Wiki* categories [18:47:06] components [18:47:20] and android/iOS/other stuff? [18:47:29] platform can be used to specify android/ios/other [18:47:35] I think [18:47:39] let me check [18:47:47] yuvipanda: does that sound right? [18:48:05] hexmode: hmm [18:48:08] the problem is [18:48:12] most code is shared [18:48:16] yes [18:48:16] so if something's a bug in iOS [18:48:27] there's a good chance it's in android as well [18:48:31] right [18:48:44] which is why using platform makes sense that way [18:48:50] instead of component [18:49:15] hmm [18:49:33] hexmode: can platform have multiple values? [18:49:34] * yuvipanda checks [18:49:36] at least, that is how I use it and how bz seems to be set up [18:49:47] why would it need to? [18:49:57] hexmode: most bugs are common to iOS and Android [18:50:06] you can just remove platform if it isn't specific to any [18:50:41] hexmode: ah, so default is 'both' [18:50:48] or set it to "unspecified" or "all" or even have an "iOS/Android" platform if that makes sense :) [18:50:51] and then you setup platforms if it is specific [18:50:51] yes [18:50:56] yes [18:51:16] but first let me make sure we can use platform this way [18:51:44] (I haven't tried adding platforms to bz) [18:51:55] heh [18:52:11] hexmode: and just use tracking bugs for version tracking [18:52:29] or keywords or (better yet) milestones [18:53:15] so [18:53:22] product would be Wikimedia Mobile App [18:53:27] Component would be Wikipedia [18:53:39] Platform would be unspecified/android/iOS [18:53:44] so, I can easily add "Android" and "iOS" to "OS", but there are way too many values there [18:53:51] k [18:53:57] yes, you can't clean them up per component? [18:54:42] it only lets me set values for fied. I may be able to create a "platform" field that only mobile apps can have, though [18:54:44] 1s [18:56:26] nah :( but... I can create platform for everyone [18:56:32] ugh [18:56:34] let me research bz for a few [18:56:37] okay [19:04:19] yuvipanda: ok, I've figured out how to make android-wikip and ios-wikip and android-wikit and ios-wikit -- not ideal, but it would get us there. [19:04:30] little bit more checking [19:04:35] ugh [19:04:36] ugh [19:04:37] ugh [19:04:44] are those platforms? [19:04:47] components? [19:05:20] custom field that I've named "Mobile Platform" -- trying to keep it from showing up for all bugs [19:05:42] why does the platform need wikip and wikit? [19:06:23] b/c I can create values that only show up for certain components [19:06:25] but [19:06:38] I can't have two "Androids" [19:06:49] one for Wiktionary and one for Wikipedia [19:07:00] WTAndroid, WPAndroid [19:07:00] gimme another minute [19:07:22] hexmode: and you can't have 'android' show up for both components? [19:07:23] :| [19:07:28] in that case can we just have them as keywords? [19:07:35] yeah, if that is fine with you, I could do it. but let me check [19:07:37] yes [19:07:53] let me see if there is a sane way to do this first [19:07:57] okay :) [19:13:18] Sanity is over-rated [19:14:47] 1 more minute and then I'm going with keywords [19:15:18] Amgine: being in a room of mosquitoes is overrated [19:15:23] been here for 3 days, no malaria yet [19:16:02] The real use of quinine: makes your blood less tasty/desirable to the ladies. [19:16:40] i wasn't aware any of the ladies liked blood [19:17:16] Only pregnant female mosquitos do the blood meal thing on humans. [19:18:05] and apparently twilight fans [19:19:08] eew. [19:19:11] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Wikimedia%20Mobile -- "Show advanced fields" [19:20:36] yuvipanda: It shouldn't be too hard now to consolidate the "android" and "iphone" devices (which I can do) if that is satisfactory [19:21:32] hexmode: can we have show advanced on by default? [19:21:33] there is both a component android/iphone, and an advanced field ? [19:21:57] Amgine: if we do this I would get rid of the android and iphone components [19:22:08] yuvipanda: I'm looking [19:22:08] hexmode: what happens to bugs in those components/ [19:22:09] ? [19:22:31] I would move them to the right "mobile platform" [19:22:47] hexmodebot [19:23:25] ok, we can put it in the entry form, I just have to update the template [19:24:53] I can't add adjust the template right now, but I'm gonna go ahead and make those other changes [19:25:20] okay [19:32:02] what do you guys think of adding a new product: "Mobile Apps" and creating "Wiktionary Appe" and "Wikimedia App" components under that? [19:32:11] yuvipanda: Amgine: ^^ [19:32:32] Seems logical to me. [19:32:42] +1 on me too [19:32:45] hey pchang [19:32:47] But you could just do Wiktionary, Wikipedia, etc. [19:32:56] yeah [19:32:59] hexmode is redoing our bugzilla structure :) [19:35:24] hello Tanvir [19:35:27] hello Tpt [19:35:32] we put out a beta today :) [19:35:43] yuvipanda: Good news ! [19:41:00] philinje: did you see the changes hexmode is doing to our bugzilla components? [19:44:21] done [19:44:37] removing old components [19:45:05] hexmode: will they automagically move to the new ones? [19:45:23] they're already moved [19:45:32] ah [19:45:36] nice [19:46:49] [19:47:12] anytime you want to come over, Amgine, anytime [19:47:57] [19:49:15] foot massages too? :P [19:49:17] possibly too far [19:49:38] I don't even get foot massages from my wife :P [19:49:53] she might think something was going on [19:49:59] so, no, too far [19:50:24] I bake. Better to bake for someone else than my ever-expanding waist line. [19:52:59] Okay, drafting yuvipanda [19:53:04] for cookies? [19:54:17] No, the questions. [19:54:23] ah, yes [19:54:29] interesting that i've no idea how cookies are made [19:56:44] *You* have led a very sheltered life, and clearly should never be allowed to raise childer. [20:02:15] Amgine: :D [20:04:03] Amgine: i can easily shock you with my lack of exposure to what some people call the real world :) [20:04:32] I live in India, but don't know hindi [20:04:36] can't even recognize the numerals [20:04:44] which means, for all intents and purposes, I'm illiterate [20:07:06] English is one of the dominant languages in the country; Indian dialectic English is the largest body and will become the English standard. I rather think you're well-positioned. [20:07:37] But not knowing how to cook! [20:14:10] baking: flour, sugar, flavor, fat and liquid. stir. bake. [20:15:07] leavening agent. [20:15:09] Amgine: i can boil water without killing myself [20:15:11] also make sandwiches [20:15:30] heatherw: the last step i've no idea how it is even done [20:15:36] what equipment, etc [20:16:14] turn oven on to 350. put goo on metal or glass. stick in there for 10-?? minutes. [20:16:27] ah, so that requires the presence of a oven :) [20:16:42] you can leave it in the sun if it's hot enough ;) [20:17:00] black box. [20:17:30] hmm, let me try doing something the next time I've access to a microwave [20:17:38] assuming I don't get back a black solid that smells [20:18:03] childhood in the USA showed us that you can bake with a light bulb. I was not allowed to have an Easy Bake Oven though, so I just have to assume it works. [20:18:21] microwave is bad for baking. [20:18:25] usually. [20:18:27] i'm guessing you can't bake on a gas stove [20:18:45] you can steam-bake i bet. [20:18:59] steam bake? isn't that the same as 'boil'? [20:19:01] you need all-over heat. [20:19:40] how can you do that with a gas stove? [20:19:45] isn't the heat only from the bottom? [20:20:17] stove/range is the top part where heat is from the bottom, you need the oven part to bake. [20:21:27] hmm [20:21:38] so it is possible to convert one of them into baking [20:21:56] oh well - until I get a place of my own I guess I'm restricted to street food [20:22:10] amazing that i've been on it for 7-8 months now and haven't fallen ill yet [20:31:26] yuvipanda, and what kind of street food is there in India? [20:31:36] MaxSem: all kinds of street food [20:31:42] super spicy to super sweet [20:32:16] all cheap [20:34:16] since Yuvi carefully avoids all the specifics, /me imagines a collection of stereotypes about Asian food like roasted roaches or stinky eggs [20:34:41] ah, specifics [20:34:46] today evening's food was 'vada pav' [20:35:02] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vada_pav [20:35:19] there is also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pani_puri [20:35:31] heh [20:36:34] MaxSem: so the place is reasonably bad [20:36:39] swattin away flies, for example [20:41:11] ahhaha, when I tried to find pics of Russian street food for you, I found https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Troynoy_Odekolon.jpg in Category:Cuisine of Russia [20:41:41] http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cookbook:Cuisine_of_India & http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cookbook:Puri <- yuvi [20:43:17] MaxSem: looks like an alcoholic drink to me :P [20:43:31] Amgine: not same as pani puri [20:43:46] first of all, it's eau de cologne [20:44:11] perfume [20:45:09] the categorisation is an ironic reference to soviet times when alcohol was at times hard to buy so hardcore alcoholics drank crap like this [20:46:17] In the USA the same, mouthwash and some household cleaners too. [20:47:01] hehe [21:11:53] draft sent, yuvi [21:17:20] Amgine: pm [21:17:29] ? [21:17:35] always [21:35:12] gnite everyone [21:35:19] nn [21:35:38] g'nite [21:35:54] just got back from an interview [21:52:20] awjr, was that question in BZ addressed to me? [21:52:51] you or Reedy [21:53:20] i wasn't sure how Reedy was getting the fatal to being with - i wanted to make sure i did the same thing to ensure it was fixed before marking it ok [21:53:22] well, I only guessed [21:53:27] ^ [21:53:39] It was appearing in the cluster fatal logs [21:53:44] fairly regularily [21:53:54] oic [21:55:35] replied