[00:01:49] <tfinc>	 philinje: ---^
[00:04:03] <philinje>	 tfinc: bugs that seem general and not related to features - not sure where else they would go
[00:12:47] <tfinc>	 philinje: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/editcomponents.cgi?product=Wikipedia%20App&showbugcounts=1 .. i'm finding this easier to read now
[00:20:43] <philinje>	 error: Sorry, you aren't a member of the 'editcomponents' group, and so you are not authorized to add, modify or delete components.
[01:43:31] * tfinc  slams the blackberry playbook into the the wall

[16:59:24] <tfinc>	 jdlrobson: yo!
[16:59:40] <jdlrobson>	 yo! we skyping?
[16:59:45] <tfinc>	 jdlrobson: yup
[17:34:55] <MaxSem>	 tfinc, did you mean in https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31703 something other than retrieval of just article text?
[17:37:16] <philinje>	 MaxSem: images? (or not)
[17:38:36] <awjr>	 MaxSem: it seems that I cannot svn up on the mobile-enwp instance. can we set things up so any of us can svn up?
[17:38:52] <tfinc>	 MaxSem: article sections would be the first step
[17:39:01] <tfinc>	 trimming out search, footer, etc is important
[17:39:08] <tfinc>	 once we have that then we can know what will be next
[17:39:19] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda_ can let you know what else the app would need
[17:39:43] <tfinc>	 returning imageless text would also be nice
[17:39:47] <yuvipanda_>	 tfinc: would know better once i start on using it.
[17:40:01] <tfinc>	 you should coordinate with jdlrobson if your working on image disable as he's looking at it now
[17:40:03] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda_: agreed
[17:40:05] <tfinc>	 we have to play with it
[17:40:21] <MaxSem>	 I don't understand how it's different from "retrieve page text in some mobile format via API, probably just one section" - is there something more?
[17:40:28] <yuvipanda_>	 tfinc: me and jdlrobson talked about it y'day
[17:40:29] <jdlrobson>	 awjr are you sudo svn up ing ?
[17:40:38] <yuvipanda_>	 and he picked up image after discussion with me
[17:40:53] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda_: i meant MaxSem and jdlrobson talking about any api level changes for disabling images
[17:41:05] <MaxSem>	 my API already can return HTMl /wo images
[17:41:06] <tfinc>	 lolz .. its like a morning standup already
[17:41:06] <tfinc>	 haha
[17:41:12] <tfinc>	 lovely
[17:41:14] <yuvipanda_>	 ah
[17:41:16] <yuvipanda_>	 :D
[17:41:30] <awjr>	 jdlrobson: i hadn't been but that seems to work
[17:41:34] <yuvipanda_>	 tfinc: is brion in?
[17:41:47] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda_: i'm not in the office yet
[17:41:59] <tfinc>	 was chatting with jdlrobson over Skype .. about to leave
[17:42:02] <tfinc>	 seeya guys in 45min
[17:42:13] <awjr>	 yuvipanda_: no he's not
[17:42:18] <jdlrobson>	 cool awjr had same problem yesterday
[17:42:25] <yuvipanda_>	 awjr: okay
[17:42:30] <jdlrobson>	 MaxSem does your api strip out the images or does it strip out the src and leave the alternate text ?
[17:42:36] <MaxSem>	 hmm, /var/www is owned by root, sure -- but it's permissions are 777, why doesn't it work?
[17:42:42] <awjr>	 jdlrobson: thanks :)
[17:43:00] <MaxSem>	 not sure, I've just adapted Patrick's code
[17:43:17] <jdlrobson>	 can you point me at the commit?
[17:43:47] <MaxSem>	 not quite, there are numerous commits involved
[17:44:14] * MaxSem  looks up code

[17:45:46] <MaxSem>	 okay, it removes <img> <audio> <video>, .thumb tright .thumb tleft .thumbcaption .gallery
[17:47:36] <jdlrobson>	 ah ok
[17:47:49] <MaxSem>	 svn up works now, it just needed a svn cleanup
[17:50:59] <philinje>	 yuvipanda_: i'm in the office but in a meeting
[17:51:08] <yuvipanda_>	 philinje: ok
[17:53:00] <yuvipanda_>	 jdlrobson: I think we should follow http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Coding_conventions/JavaScript for the app js.
[17:53:02] <yuvipanda_>	 objections?
[17:54:03] <MaxSem>	 jdlrobson, can you review the patch from https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34686 ?
[18:01:18] <jdlrobson>	 MaxSem np
[18:05:42] <jdlrobson>	 MaxSem - looks ok to me -provided this doesn't below in MediaWiki:Common.css
[18:06:28] <MaxSem>	 so it can be committed?
[18:09:46] <jdlrobson>	 yes it won't break anything - ill take care of that
[18:17:09] <MaxSem>	 thanks
[18:27:58] <jdlrobson>	 MaxSem - potential bug - now when I use mobile front end I can't see images at all
[18:28:07] <jdlrobson>	 just leaves an empty link
[18:28:37] <MaxSem>	 there are no images on labs
[18:29:04] <MaxSem>	 I guess InstantCommons can be enabled to show some of them
[18:29:12] <MaxSem>	 it makes parsing slow though
[18:29:15] <jdlrobson>	 this is on my local version
[18:29:33] <jdlrobson>	 on the desktop site image renders, but it gets stripped out on mobile version of same page
[18:30:16] <MaxSem>	 have you tried "Enable images on mobile site" at the bottom?
[18:31:27] <jdlrobson>	 no.. that might help :)
[18:31:33] <jdlrobson>	 yep ok cool :)
[18:32:13] <jdlrobson>	 thanks sorry... thought it would be enabled by default
[18:32:26] <MaxSem>	 thought it is
[18:32:38] <MaxSem>	 random clicks do wonders
[18:32:47] <MaxSem>	 sometimes even "wonders":)
[18:40:09] * yuvipanda_  pokes Amgine 

[18:41:02] <Amgine>	 Mmm?
[18:41:14] <Amgine>	 wassup yuvipanda?
[18:43:45] <Amgine>	 yuvipanda_ <- tail tale tayl
[18:43:57] <yuvipanda_>	 Amgine: 1. the email 2. beta? 3. standups?
[18:44:45] <MaxSem>	 tfinc, I did some analysis of my supposedly next project - search of pages w/o images. the main problem here are placeholder images that will result in false negatives. manual on-wiki whitelist looks ugly but the only feasible solution
[18:44:47] <Amgine>	 1. yes, yes we should. 2. Need guidance. 3. 2030 UTC, but I should send a reminder e-mail.
[18:44:54] <tfinc>	 one sec in a meeting
[18:59:57] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda_: you around?
[19:01:53] <tfinc>	 MaxSem: yeah. we don't want flags, icons, etc
[19:02:12] <tfinc>	 look at what the weekend code challenge projects did for filtering
[19:02:20] <tfinc>	 we pretty much need to only look for high quality images
[19:02:26] <tfinc>	 more so .. lack there of
[19:03:35] <MaxSem>	 I'm not afraid of flags, images from maint templaes and so on: they can be easily filtered by size on page, e.g. less than 100 pixels? you're not related to article
[19:03:41] <yuvipanda_>	 tfinc: pokeback
[19:04:00] <MaxSem>	 tfinc, what weekend code challenge?
[19:10:33] <tfinc>	 let me pull it up
[19:10:58] <tfinc>	 MaxSem: https://github.com/pypt/WikiShoot
[19:11:03] <tfinc>	 from: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mobile_Projects/Platforms_Support_Status
[19:11:15] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda_: hows iOS looking ?
[19:11:30] <yuvipanda_>	 tfinc: my testing's been fine so far...
[19:11:40] <yuvipanda_>	 ran through it on phone, doing on the iPad simulator now
[19:16:52] <yuvipanda_>	 heya shravan
[19:21:29] <Amgine>	 yuvipanda_tail: back in an hour or so.
[19:23:39] <yuvipanda_>	 Amgine: oky
[19:30:24] <yuvipanda_>	 tfinc: iOS looks good for beta to me
[19:30:38] <MaxSem>	 tfinc, I think WikiShoot uses GeoNames
[19:30:39] <tfinc>	 thats better the the alpha from yesterday
[19:31:03] <tfinc>	 MaxSem: but what logic does it use to figure out which articles have no images
[19:31:15] <yuvipanda_>	 tfinc: it's pretty much the same just a few more commits. Just that now I've run it around for a bit more
[19:31:40] <yuvipanda_>	 i'd still want brion's 'go', but i'd say that's mostly a done deal :)
[19:31:43] <MaxSem>	 geonames returns different data that includes images associated with article
[19:31:48] <yuvipanda_>	 tfinc: what was the process for the iOS betas before this?
[19:32:00] <MaxSem>	 no image == image needed:)
[19:32:22] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda_: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mobile-l/2012-January/005279.html
[19:32:31] <tfinc>	 note the big message about UUID's in it
[19:33:07] <yuvipanda_>	 tfinc: how many people do you have who can beta test the iOS app?
[19:34:11] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda_: there are 12 listed beta testers
[19:34:31] <tfinc>	 6 of those are staff members
[19:35:10] <yuvipanda_>	 ah
[19:35:10] <yuvipanda_>	 okay
[19:35:10] <tfinc>	 actually . we have more then that .. let me touch up the list to correctly identify devs vs beta testers
[19:35:55] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda_: do you have any that you beta testers you would like me to add?
[19:36:37] <yuvipanda_>	 come to think of it I don't remember a single person who is both beta-tester-like and has an iOS device :D
[19:36:40] <yuvipanda_>	 so no, not yet
[19:36:49] <yuvipanda_>	 tfinc: you should definitely tweet it out now though
[19:36:53] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda_: i've had to rally the office for iOS beta testing
[19:36:55] <yuvipanda_>	 ask for beta testers from the wmobile one
[19:37:10] <tfinc>	 sure
[19:37:42] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda_: sure. we just need to point them to instructions
[19:38:16] <yuvipanda_>	 tfinc: okay. Do you know if Brion's coming in today/
[19:38:17] <yuvipanda_>	 ?
[19:38:21] <tfinc>	 i can reuse http://www.innerfence.com/howto/find-iphone-unique-device-identifier-udid
[19:38:34] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda_: i forwarded his mail to you
[19:38:37] <tfinc>	 he's at the dentist
[19:38:50] <yuvipanda_>	 i'm on the list, got that too
[19:38:55] <yuvipanda_>	 but not sure what n/t means?
[19:39:10] <tfinc>	 consider him out for the day
[19:39:15] <tfinc>	 dentist visit is always iffiy
[19:39:18] <tfinc>	 iffy*
[19:39:55] <yuvipanda_>	 hmm, okay
[19:41:14] <tfinc>	 grr
[19:41:17] <tfinc>	 i want to tweet this "We need more #beta #testers for our #iOS @PhoneGap @Wikipedia app. Find your UDID http://bit.ly/yzcEFX  and send it over mobile-feedback-l@lists.wikimedia.org"
[19:41:22] <tfinc>	 but its too long
[19:41:27] <tfinc>	 danm email address
[19:41:34] <tfinc>	 i don't want people to send their private udid's over twitter
[19:41:54] <yuvipanda_>	 tfinc: dm
[19:41:55] <yuvipanda_>	 ?
[19:42:11] <tfinc>	 i guess
[19:42:26] * tfinc  doesn't like sending that over twitter

[19:43:16] <tfinc>	 i could split it up into two tweets
[19:43:19] <tfinc>	 We need more #beta #testers for our #iOS @PhoneGap @Wikipedia app. Find your UDID http://bit.ly/yzcEFX  and mail feeback list
[19:43:35] <tfinc>	 "and mail our feedback list"
[19:43:37] <yuvipanda_>	 nope, bad idea
[19:43:41] <yuvipanda_>	 untweetable
[19:43:47] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda_: then we need to trim it
[19:44:00] <yuvipanda_>	 we don't need to mention PhoneGap
[19:44:05] <yuvipanda_>	 and #beta #testers?
[19:44:10] <yuvipanda_>	 #do #you #talk #Like #this?
[19:44:28] <yuvipanda_>	 & instead of and
[19:44:35] <yuvipanda_>	 get rid of 'more'
[19:44:56] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda_: mentioning @PhoneGap usually gets us a retweet and visibility of 40,000+ rather then 4,000
[19:45:13] <tfinc>	 10x increate
[19:45:16] <tfinc>	 increase*
[19:45:18] <yuvipanda_>	 'We need beta testers for our iOS Wikipedia app. Find your UDID (<url>), email <x>
[19:45:24] <MaxSem>	 hmm, geonames' thumb image detection code is weird. it seems to select random images from the middle of the article
[19:46:04] <MaxSem>	 from the middle, apparently, to avoid e.g. choosing flags from country articles
[19:48:00] <tfinc>	 We need beta testers for our iOS @Wikipedia app. Find your UDID http://bit.ly/yzcEFX  and mail mobile-feedback-l@lists.wikimedia.org
[19:48:07] <yuvipanda_>	 mfits in 140?
[19:48:24] <tfinc>	 yes
[19:48:33] <yuvipanda_>	 good
[19:48:45] <tfinc>	 done
[19:49:44] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda_: lola https://twitter.com/#!/NeoVanGoth .. /me ponders a response
[19:49:47] <tfinc>	 lolz
[19:50:29] <yuvipanda_>	 hehe
[19:51:31] * tfinc  is getting hungry

[19:51:54] * yuvipanda_  too

[19:52:01] <yuvipanda_>	 I don't quite remember the last time I had food
[19:53:47] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda_: go find some pizza
[19:53:47] <tfinc>	 :D
[19:53:53] <yuvipanda_>	 tfinc: 1:30 AM
[19:54:03] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda_: there should be plenty of street food around
[19:54:06] <yuvipanda_>	 tfinc: nope
[19:54:14] <tfinc>	 but your in mumbai
[19:54:35] <yuvipanda_>	 tfinc: also, just so you know, i've not been able to have a single drop of beer since I turned up in Mumbai.
[19:54:51] <yuvipanda_>	 people around have consumed around 100 bottles around me
[19:54:54] <yuvipanda_>	 and i've been drinking coke
[19:55:39] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda_: yeah .. there is no going back after you've had quality .. right awjr ?
[19:55:59] <yuvipanda_>	 sigh
[19:56:04] <awjr>	 awjr
[19:56:07] <awjr>	 doh
[19:56:26] <awjr>	 tfinc, yuvipanda_: true story.
[19:58:05] <wikipedia-github>	 [WikipediaMobile] yuvipanda pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/h2E8lg
[19:58:05] <wikipedia-github>	 [WikipediaMobile/master] Messes up display rendering. Will have to wait till we move to API - YuviPanda
[19:58:23] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda_: i just for a mail from a volunteer wanting to do iOS dev
[19:58:29] <tfinc>	 will mail him to you post lunch
[19:58:29] <mw-jenkinsbot>	 Project WikipediaMobile - Nightly builds build #198: SUCCESS in 13 sec: https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/WikipediaMobile%20-%20Nightly%20builds/198/
[19:58:30] <mw-jenkinsbot>	 yuvipanda: Messes up display rendering. Will have to wait till we move to API
[19:58:34] <tfinc>	 awjr: last day in the office lunch ?
[19:58:40] <awjr>	 tfinc: sign me up.
[19:58:51] <awjr>	 tfinc: you mean tomrorow right?
[19:59:05] <tfinc>	 yeah
[19:59:10] <awjr>	 yeah, that sounds great
[19:59:18] <tfinc>	 today/tomorrow .. whichever works better
[19:59:24] <awjr>	 tomorrow - i've got lunch plans today
[19:59:52] <tfinc>	 k
[20:01:48] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda_: cc'd you on the mail
[20:02:36] <yuvipanda_>	 will poke back
[20:02:39] * yuvipanda_  looks at bugzilla

[20:02:52] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda_: i did a massive amount of work in bugzilla yesterday
[20:02:57] <yuvipanda_>	 my inbox told me
[20:03:00] <tfinc>	 :D
[20:03:15] <tfinc>	 everything is in apps now, by component, and by feature enhancement or bug fix
[20:03:19] <tfinc>	 let me know how it is for you
[20:04:03] <tfinc>	 the one thing i haven't been setting is the mile stone
[20:45:03] * yuvipanda_  pokes tfinc 

[20:45:22] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda_: brb .. need to restart to use this blackberry software
[20:45:45] <yuvipanda_>	 okay
[20:48:29] <tfinc>	 ok
[20:51:33] <tfinc>	 woot .. we got another beta user
[20:51:38] <yuvipanda_>	 just saw that :)
[20:56:55] <yuvipanda_>	 tfinc: should we poke the i18n folks and tell them we plan on releasing in a couple of weeks?
[20:57:25] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda_: sure. do we have lots of untranslated strings ?
[20:57:45] <yuvipanda_>	 am not sure, let me check stats
[20:58:02] <wikipedia-github>	 [WikipediaMobile] yuvipanda pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/QPvWOQ
[20:58:02] <wikipedia-github>	 [WikipediaMobile/master] Fixed hack. Menus on Android should now work - YuviPanda
[20:58:03] <yuvipanda_>	 okay, hacked in fix for race condition
[20:58:11] <yuvipanda_>	 should fix android master
[20:58:16] <mw-jenkinsbot>	 Project WikipediaMobile - Nightly builds build #199: SUCCESS in 7.8 sec: https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/WikipediaMobile%20-%20Nightly%20builds/199/
[20:58:16] <mw-jenkinsbot>	 yuvipanda: Fixed hack. Menus on Android should now work
[20:58:16] <yuvipanda_>	 so much for dead ends
[20:58:53] <tfinc>	 nice
[21:00:14] <yuvipanda_>	 what's our project name on http://translatewiki.net/wiki/Special:MessageGroupStats
[21:00:14] <yuvipanda_>	 ?
[21:01:24] <tfinc>	 hmm . this is our project page http://translatewiki.net/wiki/Translating:WikipediaMobile
[21:01:32] <tfinc>	 http://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special:MessageGroupStats&group=out-wikipedia-mobile
[21:02:28] <yuvipanda_>	 not bad, perhaps
[21:07:06] <Amgine>	 tonyC_: ping
[21:08:18] <Amgine>	 Heatherw: ping
[21:14:07] <Amgine>	 tfiinc: how long has the app been out?
[21:27:43] <yuvipanda_>	 tfinc: pm?
[21:27:50] <tfinc>	 hmm ?
[21:28:28] <Amgine>	 One hour reminder for yuvipanda_
[21:29:14] <yuvipanda_>	 tfinc: are we pushing out iOS beta today?
[21:29:36] <tfinc>	 yes. i just added one more beta user
[21:29:50] <tfinc>	 got any others you want me to add before i post an ipa and you mail about it
[21:29:51] <tfinc>	 ?
[21:31:09] <yuvipanda_>	 none from me - but do you want to wait for a bit for people on twitter to send ids
[21:31:11] <yuvipanda_>	 or...
[21:32:34] <yuvipanda_>	 tfinc: ^
[21:32:51] <tfinc>	 nah, lets just mail it out
[21:33:00] <tfinc>	 nothing like a real beta to make more people mail us ;)
[21:33:07] <yuvipanda_>	 :)
[21:33:09] <yuvipanda_>	 yessir
[21:34:07] <yuvipanda_>	 tfinc: I might be travelling tomorrow night, in which case I'll work during the day and send updates in an email.
[21:34:14] <tfinc>	 k
[21:34:22] <yuvipanda_>	 MaxSem: would start testing out the API from tomorrow :)
[21:34:31] <MaxSem>	 whee
[21:34:48] <yuvipanda_>	 MaxSem: will hit geonames first.
[21:34:53] <tfinc>	 git pull is taking forever ...
[21:35:44] <Amgine>	 yuvipanda_: I'm rebuilding, what eclipse flavour is best for this project?
[21:36:01] <yuvipanda_>	 Amgine: the latest one.
[21:36:15] <yuvipanda_>	 or you can be sane and not use eclipse :)
[21:36:19] <Amgine>	 flavah, not version.
[21:36:31] <yuvipanda_>	 ah
[21:36:35] <yuvipanda_>	 the 'normal' version
[21:36:43] <yuvipanda_>	 java developer one, it's called, i think
[21:36:45] <yuvipanda_>	 let me check
[21:37:10] <Amgine>	 What would you suggest? the one benefit I saw with Eclipse was the nice easy debug-on-the-phone feature.
[21:37:43] <yuvipanda_>	 Amgine: are you talking about the android app?
[21:37:46] <yuvipanda_>	 as in
[21:37:48] <yuvipanda_>	 the wp android app
[21:37:53] <yuvipanda_>	 or android apps in general?
[21:38:25] <yuvipanda_>	 'Eclipse IDE for Java Developers' is what you'd need
[21:38:26] <Amgine>	 Yes, the android app, (wt, not wp, of course...)
[21:38:35] <yuvipanda_>	 however, note that for both wt and wp
[21:38:47] <yuvipanda_>	 eclipse's debugging tools are useless
[21:38:50] <yuvipanda_>	 they don't work on js
[21:38:51] <yuvipanda_>	 only on java
[21:38:56] <yuvipanda_>	 and our java code is close to non-existent
[21:39:04] <yuvipanda_>	 infact I've *nver* used eclipse's debugger :)
[21:39:09] <yuvipanda_>	 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mobile/PhoneGap/Tutorial
[21:39:18] <Amgine>	 kk. <looks>
[21:39:19] <yuvipanda_>	 should translate pretty well to wt as well
[21:39:39] <tfinc>	 ohh http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2012/02/new-app-stats-for-publishers-on-android.html
[21:39:45] <tfinc>	 philinje: we now have breakdowns by carrier
[21:39:51] <tfinc>	 amit will like hat
[21:39:52] <tfinc>	 that*
[21:40:01] <philinje>	 cool
[21:40:38] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda_: with the new stats dashboard we can see how quickly people upgrade
[21:40:44] <yuvipanda_>	 yes
[21:40:50] <tfinc>	 along with per version install rate
[21:41:07] <yuvipanda_>	 MaxSem: also note - I put the #content back in :) Was breaking a few CSS bits that I don't want to fix now since we're going to move to your API
[21:41:25] <MaxSem>	 okay
[21:41:34] <tfinc>	 ohhh .. i can export everything as a CSV now
[21:41:35] <tfinc>	 woot
[21:43:04] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda_: git pull finished. building and signing ipa now
[21:43:09] <yuvipanda_>	 okay
[21:43:49] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda_: do you have a 3.1 change log for me ?
[21:43:59] <yuvipanda_>	 tfinc: ah, so that's interesting.
[21:44:11] <yuvipanda_>	 i'd guess it should be all of the android app's features?
[21:44:31] * yuvipanda_  looks

[21:44:52] <yuvipanda_>	 tfinc: we should make the about page say 3.1
[21:44:53] <tfinc>	 yeah, it'll be a combo of 1.0 and 1.1
[21:45:44] <yuvipanda_>	 tfinc: do you want to make the change in the about page or want me to do that?
[21:46:03] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda_: go for it
[21:46:53] <tfinc>	 http://dumps.wikimedia.org/iOS/Wikipedia-3.1beta1.ipa (afcb2a2fb6aca264b9a658facecdbace)
[21:48:56] <yuvipanda_>	 tfinc: you'd need to re-upload it once I push a commit making change in about screen :P
[21:49:04] <tfinc>	 sure
[21:49:54] <wikipedia-github>	 [WikipediaMobile] yuvipanda pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/LBIlGQ
[21:49:54] <wikipedia-github>	 [WikipediaMobile/master] Different about screens for different versions - YuviPanda
[21:49:57] <yuvipanda_>	 tfinc: ^
[21:50:08] <mw-jenkinsbot>	 Project WikipediaMobile - Nightly builds build #200: SUCCESS in 8 sec: https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/WikipediaMobile%20-%20Nightly%20builds/200/
[21:50:09] <mw-jenkinsbot>	 yuvipanda: Different about screens for different versions
[21:50:24] <tfinc>	 pulling
[21:51:23] <tfinc>	 k. 6f50d29da21c2746ea0639bccac37336
[21:52:20] <yuvipanda_>	 mm
[21:53:47] <yuvipanda_>	 tfinc: are you writing the email?
[21:54:05] <tfinc>	 as the release manager yuvi thats all  you ;)
[21:54:21] <tfinc>	 i simply did the build since apple makes this annoying
[21:54:30] <yuvipanda_>	 :)
[21:54:30] <yuvipanda_>	 okay
[21:54:45] <yuvipanda_>	 i'll do the usual put in temp storage -> show around -> email
[21:54:47] * yuvipanda_  heads off

[22:16:39] <tfinc>	 http://venturebeat.com/2012/02/27/facebook-mobile-web/
[22:19:24] <yuvipanda_>	 Amgine: poke
[22:19:46] <Amgine>	 <pokes yuvipanda_ back>
[22:19:51] <yuvipanda_>	 Amgine: pm
[22:24:55] <yuvipanda_>	 tfinc: http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/ios-3-1beta1-release-notes
[22:25:04] * tfinc  goes to take a look

[22:26:16] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda_: lack of crashes is a feature
[22:26:19] <tfinc>	 lolz
[22:26:57] <tfinc>	 we need a new feedback page
[22:27:31] <yuvipanda_>	 i'm putting in the bugzilla URL now
[22:29:54] <philinje>	 working on feedback page design with Heather
[22:31:25] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda_: i'm done with my changes
[22:34:48] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda_: thanks for responding to hector
[22:39:54] <yuvipanda_>	 tfinc: ah, you edited the first paragraph. Felt odd, now much better
[22:41:20] <tfinc>	 :)
[22:46:20] <yuvipanda_>	 tfinc: all good?
[22:47:11] <tfinc>	 ship it
[22:47:44] <tfinc>	 actually
[22:47:45] <tfinc>	 hold
[22:47:59] <Amgine>	 <gg>
[22:48:28] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda_: still holding ?
[22:48:32] <yuvipanda_>	 yeah
[22:48:34] <yuvipanda_>	 holding
[22:48:34] <tfinc>	 i forgot to do one thing
[22:49:08] <tfinc>	 i generated the new cert .. but didn't downed it … <dumb>
[22:49:14] <tfinc>	 download*
[22:49:19] <tfinc>	 building new ipa now
[22:50:54] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda_: 80e92e2661a805f3b447f76be0d5e5bb
[22:50:56] <tfinc>	 try the new ipa
[22:51:03] <tfinc>	 now its signed with the correct cert
[22:51:36] <yuvipanda_>	 tfinc: k
[22:51:57] <yuvipanda_>	 tfinc: question - ever verified md5 of something you downloaded? :P
[22:52:09] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda_: only when it doesn't work :D
[22:52:47] <yuvipanda_>	 option 1. download again
[22:52:50] <yuvipanda_>	 2. verifiy md5
[22:52:51] <yuvipanda_>	 hmmm
[22:52:52] <yuvipanda_>	 :P
[22:55:23] <yuvipanda_>	 tfinc: okay, sending
[23:00:28] <yuvipanda_>	 tfinc: how do we handle people wanting to join the beta from now?
[23:00:33] <yuvipanda_>	 make a new build as and when?
[23:00:55] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda_: yup
[23:01:01] <tfinc>	 new build every couple of days
[23:01:08] <tfinc>	 overall we haven't hit enough people to where that's a problem
[23:01:12] <tfinc>	 but this will be our first big push
[23:01:14] <yuvipanda_>	 tfinc: then I just PM'd you one
[23:01:14] <tfinc>	 so we'll see :D
[23:05:17] <tfinc>	 ROFL: http://supportforums.blackberry.com/t5/Tablet-OS-SDK-for-Adobe-AIR/how-to-run-app-world-app-into-playbook-simulator/td-p/1082899
[23:05:20] <tfinc>	 last comment
[23:05:54] <yuvipanda_>	 :D
[23:06:13] <tfinc>	 the blackberry tools make Xcode look like gold
[23:06:31] <yuvipanda_>	 I just realized MIR is RIM backwards and is a reasonably harsh swear word in Tamil that amounts to 'you are as useless as a piece of hair that fell off someone's head'
[23:07:01] <yuvipanda_>	 tfinc: new build up?
[23:07:20] <tfinc>	 tfinc: building new ipa now
[23:07:21] <tfinc>	 [2:50pm] tfinc: yuvipanda_: 80e92e2661a805f3b447f76be0d5e5bb
[23:07:32] <tfinc>	 unless you want another with the new uuid you just sent me
[23:07:49] <yuvipanda_>	 if it's not too much trouble, sire.
[23:07:50] <yuvipanda_>	 i would
[23:07:56] <tfinc>	 sure
[23:10:23] <Amgine>	 <laughs at Tamil language lesson>
[23:11:02] <yuvipanda_>	 Amgine: :)
[23:11:23] <Amgine>	 Is missing from Wiktionary. You should {fixthat}
[23:13:43] <tfinc>	 4b0c309753cde4da3f4516d4a4952773
[23:14:02] <yuvipanda_>	 alrighty
[23:16:22] <yuvipanda_>	 tfinc: done
[23:17:14] <lifeeth>	 Hey yuvipanda_
[23:17:24] <lifeeth>	 kdeo, is the person :)
[23:17:24] <yuvipanda_>	 lifeeth: heya!
[23:17:25] <tfinc>	 woot!
[23:17:31] <yuvipanda_>	 heya kdeo!
[23:17:36] <kdeo>	 hi
[23:17:39] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda_: how was our feedback from wikitech for the android app?
[23:17:46] <yuvipanda_>	 tfinc: non-existent except for amir
[23:17:52] <tfinc>	 k
[23:18:01] <yuvipanda_>	 kdeo: welcome! checked out the code?
[23:18:44] <kdeo>	 thanks yuvipanda, just downloaded the phone gap.. on it
[23:18:48] <yuvipanda_>	 kdeo: :)
[23:18:53] <yuvipanda_>	 have you seen the build instructions page?
[23:19:12] <kdeo>	 not yet
[23:19:35] <yuvipanda_>	 kdeo: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mobile/PhoneGap/iOS_build_instructions
[23:19:51] <kdeo>	 k
[23:20:18] <yuvipanda_>	 tfinc: yuvi.in/POSM was the weekend hack I built. It has per-zoom-level point filtering
[23:20:24] <yuvipanda_>	 something that i'd eventually like us to have as well :)
[23:20:38] <yuvipanda_>	 countries -> states + capitals -> cities -> towns -> villages -> more -> more
[23:20:43] <yuvipanda_>	 works pretty great
[23:21:05] <yuvipanda_>	 we sadly don't have that much structured data as OSM has, so won't be as simple/as good
[23:21:19] <yuvipanda_>	 kdeo: lifeeth also subscribe to https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l for updates :)
[23:21:29] <yuvipanda_>	 tfinc: tweet the link?
[23:24:26] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda_: you have access to that account ;)
[23:24:57] <yuvipanda_>	 oh well
[23:25:00] <yuvipanda_>	 mgiht as well set it up today
[23:25:45] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda_: i'm getting one report of a failed install
[23:25:48] <tfinc>	 ipa not valid
[23:25:50] <tfinc>	 did you see that?
[23:26:01] <yuvipanda_>	 hmm, no?
[23:26:06] <yuvipanda_>	 lifeeth: were you able to install it?
[23:27:20] <tfinc>	 in order to verify it i'll have to a) create a change log b) add a new version stub to itunes connect
[23:28:13] <kdeo>	 says not a valid ipa here too
[23:28:37] <tfinc>	 you gotta love apple distribution tools
[23:28:54] <yuvipanda_>	 ugh
[23:29:13] * yuvipanda_  holds off tweeting

[23:29:30] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda_: http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/WikipediaMobileiOS3-1Changelog
[23:29:40] <yuvipanda_>	 kdeo: we didn't add your UDID to it, so it wouldn't work
[23:29:51] <kdeo>	 ah, ok!
[23:30:09] <yuvipanda_>	 tfinc: stop calling full screen search a feature :P
[23:30:23] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda_: haha .. ok ok
[23:32:03] <kdeo>	 have it running from the source code now
[23:32:22] <yuvipanda_>	 kdeo: nice!
[23:32:32] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda_: thats looking pretty good
[23:32:41] <yuvipanda_>	 kdeo: can you poke lifeeth into testing it on his device?
[23:32:45] <yuvipanda_>	 tfinc: yup to me too
[23:33:03] <kdeo>	 lifeeth doesn't have one, he is testing on my device :)
[23:33:31] <yuvipanda_>	 uh wait, so we added your id and it still says invalid ipa?
[23:33:48] * tfinc  waits on itunesconnect

[23:35:05] <mw-jenkinsbot>	 Project WiktionayMobile - Nightly builds build #15: SUCCESS in 9.4 sec: https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/WiktionayMobile%20-%20Nightly%20builds/15/
[23:35:05] <mw-jenkinsbot>	 * niklas.laxstrom: Translation updates from translatewiki.net
[23:35:06] <mw-jenkinsbot>	 * tomasz: Updating app id to correspond to what we have in the market
[23:35:06] <mw-jenkinsbot>	 * tomasz: Upping version number
[23:35:07] <mw-jenkinsbot>	 * yuvipanda: Redisabling webview scroll in iOS
[23:35:07] <mw-jenkinsbot>	 * yuvipanda: Stop using 'deprecated' #content div container for scraping
[23:35:08] <mw-jenkinsbot>	 * yuvipanda: External links open in browser in iOS
[23:35:08] <mw-jenkinsbot>	 * yuvipanda: Messes up display rendering. Will have to wait till we move to API
[23:35:09] <mw-jenkinsbot>	 * yuvipanda: Fixed hack. Menus on Android should now work
[23:35:09] <mw-jenkinsbot>	 * yuvipanda: Different about screens for different versions
[23:35:56] <awjr>	 tfinc: are you available to do our 1:1 earlier? no worries if not
[23:36:10] <tfinc>	 awjr:  i was till we ran into these weird iOS issues
[23:36:14] <tfinc>	 need to figure this out first
[23:36:16] <awjr>	 kk
[23:36:59] <lifeeth>	 yuvipanda_, yeah that was the case
[23:37:05] <lifeeth>	 yuvipanda_, I am still on android :)
[23:37:14] <yuvipanda_>	 lifeeth: ah, okay. Then test the android app :)
[23:37:21] <yuvipanda_>	 tfinc: looks like a signing issue?
[23:37:38] <tfinc>	 three issues with the app that Xcode found
[23:37:51] <tfinc>	 1) i didn't build against armv6
[23:37:53] <tfinc>	 thats easy to fix
[23:38:24] <tfinc>	 2) were missing icon.png for both iphone/ipod and ipad
[23:38:44] <tfinc>	 3) --^ ipad icon
[23:38:52] <tfinc>	 2) should be 57x57
[23:38:56] <tfinc>	 3) should be 72x72
[23:39:39] <yuvipanda_>	 ugh
[23:39:40] * yuvipanda_  looks

[23:40:08] <yuvipanda_>	 we do have a 72x72 icon
[23:40:19] <tfinc>	 ok #1 is fixed now in my new build
[23:41:20] <tfinc>	 iPhone/iPod Touch: icon.png: icon dimensions (0 x 0 don't meet the size requirements. The icon file must be 57x57, in .png format
[23:41:41] <yuvipanda_>	 we do have both 57 and 72
[23:41:42] <yuvipanda_>	 in png
[23:42:13] <tfinc>	 are they in the right place ?
[23:42:54] <yuvipanda_>	 yes, but maybe they need plist entries
[23:42:55] <yuvipanda_>	 checking
[23:43:17] <yuvipanda_>	 there exist plist entries
[23:43:19] <yuvipanda_>	 for all 3 icons
[23:43:27] <yuvipanda_>	 (original iOS size, retina and ipad)
[23:45:52] <tfinc>	 trying one thing to fix it
[23:46:40] <tfinc>	 ok .. its fine now
[23:46:46] <tfinc>	 i unchecked compressing of pngs
[23:46:51] <tfinc>	 from http://www.iphonedevsdk.com/forum/iphone-sdk-development/54784-icon-dimensions-0-x-0-dont-meet-size-requirements.html
[23:47:01] <yuvipanda_>	 tfinc: gah
[23:47:26] <tfinc>	 now i'm just down to a missing CFBundlesVersion error
[23:47:32] <tfinc>	 which i should be able to fix
[23:48:36] <tfinc>	 passed validation :D
[23:49:00] <yuvipanda_>	 nice!
[23:49:04] <yuvipanda_>	 tfinc: upload?
[23:49:18] <tfinc>	 uploaded
[23:49:29] <tfinc>	 c9b086afd78cef6bfd223c76121cbef8
[23:49:30] <tfinc>	 give it a spin
[23:49:31] <yuvipanda_>	 kdeo: can you re download and test?
[23:49:50] <kdeo>	 ok
[23:54:30] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda_: installed ok on a new old iPod.
[23:54:31] <tfinc>	 but
[23:54:37] <tfinc>	 its its not pulling any pages
[23:54:40] <tfinc>	 its in WIFI only mode
[23:54:44] <tfinc>	 your favorite
[23:55:24] <yuvipanda_>	 tfinc: define 'not pulling any pages'?
[23:55:26] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda_: getting reports of the new ipa working ok now
[23:55:34] <tfinc>	 "Sorry this page is not available"
[23:55:50] <kdeo>	 works fine on my phone now
[23:55:52] <tfinc>	 but safari works just fine
[23:55:53] <yuvipanda_>	 try search?
[23:55:55] <tfinc>	 hurrah
[23:56:01] <tfinc>	 same issue. nothing
[23:56:01] <yuvipanda_>	 kdeo: \o/
[23:56:08] <yuvipanda_>	 tfinc: interesting. how old?
[23:57:01] * yuvipanda_  facebkeyboards

[23:57:08] <tfinc>	 iPhone3 running iOS 4.2
[23:57:18] <yuvipanda_>	 around 6AM, I think I should crash.
[23:57:39] <yuvipanda_>	 tfinc: try accessing settings?
[23:57:55] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda_: it'll hang because its trying to pull the lang list
[23:58:06] <yuvipanda_>	 true, so if it hangs it's a no-network issue
[23:58:11] <yuvipanda_>	 else a js related application leel bug
[23:58:12] <yuvipanda_>	 *level
[23:58:25] <yuvipanda_>	 and make sure safari is not hitting cache :P
[23:59:31] <yuvipanda_>	 ok, am out.
[23:59:36] <yuvipanda_>	 gnite tfinc kdeo lifeeth
[23:59:57] <tfinc>	 night yuvipanda_