[00:00:23] Thehelpfulone: the new beta is about to be mailed out (iOS!) [00:00:32] so would be awesome if you could install it and see if it installs cleanly? [00:01:11] * yuvipanda pokes maplebed [00:01:12] sure, where do I download it from? :) [00:01:19] teehee! [00:01:30] Thehelpfulone: http://dumps.wikimedia.org/iOS/Wikipedia-3.1beta2.ipa [00:01:34] maplebed: new iOS beta time :D [00:01:39] \o/ [00:01:43] can you install it and see if it installs cleanly so I can mail it out? [00:01:55] * maplebed downloads. [00:02:32] huh. last time I got a message "An older version of the app Wikipedia exists in your library...". This time it's just "The app Wikipedia exists ..." [00:02:35] I just installed iOS 5.1 yuvipanda [00:02:41] so it's a double test ;) [00:02:41] maybe it's going off version number insetad of date? [00:02:54] Thehelpfulone: :) [00:03:19] maplebed: well, we already have it as 3.1, and IIRC we couldn't update it to be 3.1beta2 [00:03:27] can you uninstall the previous version and install this? [00:03:36] yuvipanda: will I be able to tell in the about screen that it's the beta2? [00:03:42] I just said 'replace'. [00:03:43] maplebed: yes! [00:06:38] yuvipanda: how do I check the version number? [00:06:49] Thehelpfulone: settings -> about [00:07:22] in site the app? [00:07:29] or the native settings on iOS? [00:07:41] Thehelpfulone: inside the app [00:08:10] I feel so dumb.. I can't see a settings option [00:08:29] I'm probably on the older version of the app then I guess - my computer must still be syncing :S [00:09:35] yuvipanda: pull request sent. Are there any other bugs which need urgent attention ? [00:09:49] shravan: none that should keep you up at 5:40 AM [00:09:51] go sleep :) [00:10:17] * shravan is off to bed [00:10:31] Thehelpfulone: do you see a navbar at the bottom? [00:10:32] I'm off to bed too, good night :) [00:10:37] Thehelpfulone: ah, good night :) [00:10:43] maplebed: installed properly? [00:10:50] yuvipanda: nope [00:11:00] yuvipanda: I had a bunch of queued podcasts; it's still syncing. [00:11:04] maplebed: ok [00:11:09] Thehelpfulone: still syncing perhaps? [00:11:39] yeah I think so [00:11:53] this whole wireless syncing doesn't seem to be quite working as well as I'd have thought! [00:12:53] hehe [00:12:55] preilly: ping [00:13:04] aude: looks like Apple's started possibly using OSM data? :) [00:17:34] just a heads up i'm probably gonna call it a night in about 45 mins [00:18:42] jdlrobson: how do things look to you? [00:18:57] nothing seems out of the ordinary [00:19:03] thanks for the heads up jdlrobson - what hours are you going to be working tmrw? [00:19:13] tomorrow mostly gmt im afraid [00:19:30] 9am-6pmish [00:19:46] so if it's deployed i'll be able to catch any bugs that are found [00:19:53] before you guys wake up ;-) [00:20:21] heh ok the deployment window is 3-4pm PST tomorrow [00:20:29] if I were to work normal IST hours I guess we'll basically have someone from the team up at all time? :) [00:20:39] chasing the sun [00:20:57] The Sun Never Sets For The Mobile Team [00:21:17] come to think of it it probably already never does for WM as a while [00:21:19] oh well [00:22:15] awjr: do you have access to dumps.wikimedia.org? [00:22:24] oh RIM, i hate your code signing and how it doesn't work. >:( [00:22:25] hrmph. I've still got 3.1beta1 [00:22:35] yuvipanda: do you mean web access? [00:22:40] awjr: no, ssh access [00:22:42] maplebed: :( [00:22:50] yuvipanda don't think so [00:23:00] yuvipanda: mail me the apk [00:23:02] maplebed might [00:23:07] tfinc_away: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8768784/WikipediaMobile-v1.1beta3.apk [00:23:19] I'm going to delete it and sync and reinstall and sync. [00:23:32] maplebed: okay [00:23:36] yuvipanda: check in #wikimedia-operations [00:23:44] awjr: tfinc_away has perms so its cool [00:23:48] k [00:23:50] s/its/it's/ [00:23:50] http://dumps.wikimedia.org/android/WikipediaMobile-v1.1beta3.apk [00:23:55] tfinc_away: thanks! [00:24:03] 6857f4cf6bcea11b301ccc3608387c95 [00:25:51] yuvipanda: sure [00:26:13] jdlrobson, preilly, yuvipanda: can you guys dbl check the list of changes to go out tomorrow here - http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MobileFrontend/Deployments [00:26:54] also please note any dependencies that might not be deployed to the cluster yet (eg adding unsetVal() to WebRequest.php) [00:27:20] still says beta1. [00:27:34] maplebed: sigh. [00:27:42] yuvipanda: is there any other way I can ask the app for identification? [00:27:45] tfinc_away: can you tell me what was the head when you pulled? [00:28:02] maplebed: well, try 'nearby' - if the map tiles show up, you are on beta2 [00:28:15] also, preilly: fyi im gonna sign off in about 45 minutes for the day. i'll be back on ~9am PST tomorrow but will be tied up 10am - 12pm PST. I gather jdlrobson stuff is pretty well tested, but not so sure about everything else. how should we wrap up testing in preparation for deployment? [00:28:39] nearby's just gray. [00:28:54] yeah, beta2 just hasn't gotten into your phone [00:28:57] ugh. [00:28:59] awjr: looks good to me [00:29:12] \o/ [00:29:15] maplebed: tried uninstalling it first? [00:29:20] yuvipanda: I did. [00:29:28] sigh. [00:29:52] the file size for Wikipedia-3.1beta2 is larger than beta1 (on my laptop) [00:30:02] maplebed: it got you no errors ejther, I assume? [00:30:05] *either [00:30:07] nope. [00:31:16] 'sum' matches what's in my itunes folder and the beta2 download. [00:31:17] awjr: well it's just pretty adhoc for now [00:31:32] eg: [00:31:33] sum Mobile\ Applications/Wikipedia-3.1beta2.ipa [00:31:33] 4016 2736 Mobile Applications/Wikipedia-3.1beta2.ipa [00:31:42] WMF302:iTunes ben$ sum ~/Downloads/Wikipedia* [00:31:42] 44621 2597 /Users/ben/Downloads/Wikipedia-3.1beta1.ipa [00:31:42] 4016 2736 /Users/ben/Downloads/Wikipedia-3.1beta2.ipa [00:31:44] yuvipanda: let me check [00:32:15] yuvipanda: the last commit in my local copy is 609499ca114c7aa6614a55aeeebcd4021fcc5c7a [00:32:42] yup, that's right what should be [00:32:44] preilly: ok - so … should i just be testing this as thoroughly as i can locally, merge to deployment, push to fenari, test on test.wikipedia.org and then push to production? [00:32:57] i wish we had a QA person [00:32:59] awjr: yes [00:33:06] awjr: and also yes [00:33:11] +1 [00:33:17] or qa people, really [00:33:20] chris gave us some really good leads on qa folks [00:33:26] groovy [00:33:36] maplebed: okay, i'm poking around [00:33:46] if only i didn't have these meetings then i could actually reach out to them [00:36:34] hey Astagi [00:36:43] your right in time for new beta testing [00:36:45] maplebed: did you delete them from iTunes or from the device? [00:36:48] heya Astagi :D [00:36:59] yuvipanda: from itunes. [00:37:07] maplebed: try from the device? [00:37:10] then from the device through itunes interface. [00:37:18] hi tfinc_away hi yuvipanda :) [00:37:21] ho you doing? [00:37:27] maplebed: try deleting it just from the device? [00:37:28] *w [00:37:44] k. [00:37:53] deleted. [00:37:57] now syncing again. [00:37:57] k pass me the link [00:38:58] Astagi: http://dumps.wikimedia.org/android/WikipediaMobile-v1.1beta3.apk [00:39:14] yuvipanda: you still about? [00:39:24] THO|Cloud: yes :) [00:39:26] I managed to get the app working [00:39:30] whoo! [00:39:31] * THO|Cloud is Thehelpfulone [00:39:37] yes, could guess from the initials :) [00:39:38] but there's a problem when I try to share a page [00:39:44] THO|Cloud: yes, shared pages don't work yet [00:39:46] yuvipanda: \o/ I got beta2 [00:39:48] there's some option to save that begins with V [00:39:49] maplebed: :D [00:39:50] ah okay [00:40:15] and when I first open the app - what page is it supposed to load up? [00:40:17] maplebed: so deleting from the device did the trick? [00:40:24] The search bar just keeps spinning round and round [00:40:25] THO|Cloud: enwiki [00:40:28] yuvipanda: yes. [00:40:30] but I didn't type anything - it's odd [00:40:38] yuvipanda: no idea why I couldn't delete via itunes, but there you go. [00:40:49] maplebed: apple, it works great until it doesn't :) [00:40:54] THO|Cloud: did it eventually stop spinning? [00:40:58] nope [00:41:07] it keeps on spinning (and it's loaded the main page) [00:41:14] where's that wiki page to log bugs... [00:41:22] is the "disable mobile site" option disabled on purpose? [00:41:25] THO|Cloud: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mobile_Projects/WikipediaMobileiOSFeedback#V3.1 [00:41:27] I don't see it at the bottom of the app [00:41:28] maplebed: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mobile_Projects/WikipediaMobileiOSFeedback#V3.1 [00:41:39] that'd be it. thanks! [00:41:51] THO|Cloud: are you sure you're on the new app? [00:42:22] THO|Cloud: do you see a bottom navbar, with a settings icon on the right? [00:42:31] can you check About inside that and tell me what version you're on? [00:42:36] yes [00:42:47] before I was on the 1.1 version or something [00:42:51] it's 3.1 BETA 2 [00:42:55] okay! [00:42:59] woot! [00:43:17] hmm [00:43:22] on the settings button on the right hand side [00:43:29] if you've clicked on it [00:43:32] then you go to "about us" [00:43:42] then you follow the link in the top left to go back to the main settings page [00:43:52] you still see a left arrow next to settings [00:44:09] clicking that doesn't do anything because you are at the main settings page - is this supposed to link back to the article that you were viewing? [00:44:14] yes [00:44:24] not for me :( [00:44:30] I wonder if the fact you're on 5.1 is messing things up :( [00:44:36] maplebed: are you seeing any of these issues? [00:46:16] THO|Cloud: what device are you on? [00:46:23] iPad? [00:46:24] iPhone 4 32 GB [00:46:28] hmm [00:46:52] yuvipanda: the app has crashed twice so far, how do I send you the crash reports? [00:47:27] im off soon... anyone need anything from me before i sleep? [00:47:53] nope thanks jdlrobson [00:47:57] jdlrobson: take a look at my design email when you get a chacne [00:48:00] sorry, was entering other bugs. [00:48:01] :P [00:48:07] THO|Cloud: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mobile_Projects/WikipediaMobileiOSFeedback [00:48:30] THO|Cloud: you could put the reports on pastebin and link there? [00:48:37] jdlrobson: nope [00:48:44] yuvipanda: sure, do they have any private data on them? [00:48:48] and how do I get them off my phone? ;) [00:49:06] is there actually a physical code freeze or will i be able to make commits to MobileFrontend tomorrow morning? [00:49:18] THO|Cloud, yuvipanda following those instructions (settings -> about us -> upper-back -> upper-back), the second upper-back does take me back to the original article. [00:49:44] THO|Cloud: http://aplus.rs/apple/how-to-find-crash-logs-for-iphone-applications-on-mac-vista-and-xp/ [00:49:48] and nope, no personal information [00:49:53] yep just found that same page :) [00:49:54] maplebed: iOS 5? [00:50:10] iOS-whatever-apple-wants-me-to-run [00:50:22] * maplebed checks [00:50:23] jdlrobson: you can make commits but they should only be bug fixes for the push [00:50:43] yuvipanda: version 5.0.1 [00:50:47] yuvipanda: not quite sure how to open the log? [00:50:52] it's a .crash file [00:51:02] i dont expect i will [00:51:13] but ok if i see anything that looks critical ill make the change [00:51:30] THO|Cloud: any text editor? [00:51:50] and deployments at 3-4PM PST? [00:52:06] it was being a bit stubborn before, I'll try a different editor [00:52:10] ah there we go [00:52:47] jdlrobson: yes [00:52:47] THO|Cloud: put that in pastebin somewhere (I personally like http://hastebin.com/) and link to it on the wiki page [00:53:28] that's me signing off then [00:53:46] jdlrobson: seeya [00:55:07] yuvipanda: done [00:55:29] jdlrobson: later [00:55:34] THO|Cloud: have other apps been fine since you upgraded? [00:55:50] I've not tested any other than the native ones [00:56:05] engadget seems to be okay, [00:56:13] weird [00:56:24] i'll look at the crash report soonish [00:56:29] * yuvipanda needs to email it out right now [00:56:31] okay :) [00:56:41] now I'll really go to sleep [00:56:43] good night ;) [00:57:23] THO|Cloud: gnite! [01:20:35] philinje: tfinc http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/android-1-1-iOS-3-1-third-beta-notes [01:20:43] one look before I email it away? [01:22:17] yuvipanda: looks great, and great job! [01:22:24] philinje: :D [01:24:19] sent [01:24:24] gnite everyone [01:24:27] though its 7a [01:24:28] m [14:01:13] [PageImages] MaxSem pushed 2 new commits to master: http://git.io/YeXPFA [14:01:13] [PageImages/master] roughly finished - Max Semenik [14:01:13] [PageImages/master] Extend OpenSearchXml with image information - Max Semenik [17:33:45] greetings all [17:33:51] yuvipanda: did you tweet about the betas ? [17:34:26] not yet. crashed after posting. will do bow [17:34:51] k [17:35:01] *now [17:35:17] i had some super weird menu issues after upgrading. in bugzilla now [17:58:39] [17:59:09] alright, enough food for the day! [17:59:19] * yuvipanda goes to tweet the announcement [17:59:31] Yuvipanda: 24 hour warning ping about standups tomorrow. [17:59:42] Amgine: yes! [17:59:52] Feeling better? [18:00:44] Amgine: I wasn't sick, except for the nasty cold and the bad back [18:00:47] occupational hazards [18:01:16] i think heatherw and brion were the sick ones [18:01:16] Mostly I'm referring to the lack of sleep. You seemed to be out for a while though. [18:01:25] oh, that was just travel messing up my timezones [18:01:58] i got 8 hours y'day. 7AM to 3PM :) [18:02:01] Get your rest: mediawiki prefers to suck the souls of well-rested people. [18:03:39] Amgine: :D [18:03:39] grmbl, there seems to be an epidemic at the office [18:04:12] MaxSem: how did the deploy go? [18:04:29] I thought it will be today [18:04:53] ah [18:04:54] okay [18:04:58] timezoneconfusions [18:05:02] it's scheduled for such late time that I will mostly be asleep [18:05:36] MaxSem sleeping? what?! [18:06:07] we lowlifes don't even use alarm clock [18:06:17] TO SLEEP EVEN MORE [18:08:01] * MaxSem switches from 2000s power metal to 70s art rock [18:09:29] preilly, are we in a MF code freeze? [18:13:03] day 1 of new vim colorscheme [18:13:05] let's see how this goes [18:14:10] MaxSem: unless you really want to get something in for today yes.... [18:14:33] okay [18:39:44] greetings all [18:39:54] awjr: thanks for the feedback on the partner support position [18:39:57] morning tfinc [18:40:46] tfinc: no sweat [18:41:13] preilly: MaxSem yuvipanda philinje : please comment as needed on the new job req [18:43:01] MaxSem: also, can you please double check this list to make sure it covers all of your changes for today's deployment? please be sure to include anything that needs to be deployed alongside MobileFrontend (like core changes): http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MobileFrontend/Deployments [18:45:05] awjr, thanks for reminding - added latest module to the list [18:45:21] :) thanks MaxSem [18:50:04] and another glorious day of meetings starts [18:50:22] * tfinc dies a little [18:50:38] good luck on todays deployments [18:50:49] and great job yuvipanda and jon for getting the betas out [18:51:19] yes, jon is #win. Found a css solution to something I was trying to fix with JS for a long time [18:51:43] your welcome yuvipanda [18:51:45] :D [18:51:48] :D [18:51:56] now we need to find another front end dev with his chops [18:52:01] its been super tough [18:59:58] woot .. i got in for the HTML5 SF talk at the end of the month [19:00:16] have any of ever gone to them [19:00:16] ? [19:00:19] http://www.sfhtml5.org/events/52625572/?a=ed1_l6&eventId=52625572&action=detail [19:00:40] preilly: are you heading out to http://www.sfphp.org/events/51245612/?a=cr1p_grp&rv=cr1p tonight ? [19:00:54] ooh awesome tfinc - i'll be in SF then so i'll plan on coming out [19:01:20] oh i see waitlist [19:01:28] tfinc: heard of apple using OSM data and not giving attribution? [19:01:29] :D [19:01:38] awjr: i may have been smart and requested +1 slot [19:01:40] yuvipanda: no .. do tell [19:01:57] awjr: "A spot opened up for HTML5 for "Fast HTML5 Web UIs for Every [19:01:57] Device with Boris Smus." [19:01:58] You've been moved to a status of "Going", plus one guest." [19:02:04] tfinc: http://blog.osmfoundation.org/2012/03/08/welcome-apple/ [19:02:30] attribuito fail [19:02:32] tfinc: sweet! i'd love to go unless there's someone else wanting to go that the talk would be more applicable for [19:06:42] awjr: consider it yours unless someone wants to battle you for it [19:06:48] and then you guys can hash it out [19:06:51] tfinc: word [19:07:06] thanks :) [19:08:46] awjr: you all set for your MF pushes today? [19:09:16] tfinc: more or less, i still have testing to do and merging. once i'm done with my fundraising office hours i'll be dealing with that [19:09:57] awjr: k [19:11:05] jdlrobson: howdy, how long are you here for today? [19:11:20] i've only got an hour now but i can be around later if needed [19:11:27] jdlrobson: okay, cool [19:11:30] i just saw your email [19:11:33] so I saw this today [19:11:45] I have a feeling it might be fixed as I recall a definition mentioning 768px being deleted [19:11:49] but i have no idea how to test [19:12:34] * tfinc steps into 2012-2013 budget planning for the next 5 hours [19:12:59] * preilly wow [19:13:29] jdlrobson: hmm [19:14:01] tfinc: we'll have your tanto prepared for your seppuku when you're done [19:14:09] aww .. thanks awjr ! [19:14:10] :( [19:14:24] :p [19:15:13] * preilly wow 切腹 [19:15:46] wow ஒன்னுமெ புரில [19:15:55] * preilly hopes that awjr doesn't have a tantō at his desk [19:16:54] actually i think it's probably in a box i haven't unpacked yet [19:17:27] * jdlrobson could do with an ipad for this sort of thing [19:17:37] seppuku? [19:18:28] jdlrobson: for testing that bug? [19:18:40] yeh well i need to do several things [19:18:47] if i understand correctly its when viewed through an app [19:19:34] jdlrobson: yeah [19:26:57] btw we don't want to delete device-width from the meta tag just for this if that is the solution as it will mess up rendering for the majority of people who are not using web views... is there a way in php to determine you are in a webview? [19:29:14] jdlrobson: hmm not really sure [19:33:39] so preilly i suspect "" will work [19:33:46] ie. use max-width instead of width [19:34:12] jdlrobson: yeah, I think so too [19:34:20] but i have no way to check [19:34:22] jdlrobson: do you want to respond to that email with that statement? [19:34:34] yeh do you think it can wait till next week to fix? [19:34:40] email or bug? [19:35:07] jdlrobson: email him your thoughts [19:35:11] k [19:38:03] drphil: So, I have a problem, and I was wondering if you could counsel me [19:38:10] ROFL [19:38:30] drphil: I know you are only a tv personality, but I feel that you can help me in front of millions of people [19:41:13] drphil: can you help me with http://drphil.com/articles/article/158 [19:41:42] drphil: can you help with https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1? [19:41:49] drphil: I too would like to receive your help with "Putting Passion Back Into My Relationship" [19:44:25] preilly: gotta go but replied [19:44:28] drphil: I would also like to receive help with putting passion back into my relationship with preilly [19:44:32] jdlrobson: okay, sweet [19:44:37] laters [19:44:41] Ryan_Lane: aww [19:45:02] preilly: hey, hey, you're the reason we need counseling [19:45:11] zomg [19:45:35] * tfinc grabs popcorn and takes a seat [19:45:44] this is way more interesting then the budget meeting that i'm in [19:45:54] Ryan_Lane: me too! [19:46:23] oh, great drphil is now in session [19:46:24] i definitely need some post preilly counseling [19:46:25] or wait, does passion mean lots of anger? [19:46:29] :D [19:46:42] drphil: so here is the thing Ryan_Lane just doesn't put any effort into our relationship anymore [19:46:51] * binasher has post-preilly depression [19:47:02] preilly: I really just don't care about mobile, I think is the problem [19:47:05] binasher: you would [19:47:10] wait, we're talking about our work relationship, right? [19:47:14] Ryan_Lane: you @$%@#^ [19:47:38] Ryan_Lane: ah, no [19:47:53] boo [19:47:59] hahaha [19:48:09] i thought i set up authentication for just this very reason [19:49:05] well, Ryan_Lane — I don't know about you but, that way the best $200.00 on counseling that I've ever spent [19:49:30] philinje: that keeps someone from taking your nick not from you changing yours [19:50:14] ah, well then you must be my alter-ego [19:50:15] * preilly thinks this, "drphil is now known as philinje." was the saddest part of my day… [19:51:58] preilly: sorry about that, I think [19:52:12] ha ha heh heh [19:53:32] it did give us one quote for the quips list on bugzilla :) [19:54:05] yuvipanda: ha ha [20:04:56] * Debloper is having weird behaviour with the action buttons. tapping the any of them (select text, settings etc.) just saves the page. [20:05:07] ^ bet 3 [20:05:10] *beta [20:05:41] Debloper: ouch. [20:06:13] Debloper: device? [20:07:03] yuvipanda: Galaxy Note (on unofficial ICS) [20:07:18] Debloper: hmm, even tfinc was seeing some menu weirdness. [20:07:31] Debloper: repeatedly reproducable? [20:08:10] Basically, the icons are changing place. but the actions are fixed. So in the array of 3x2 action buttons, the bottom-left is always saving page - but the button label is different each time I open the action items. [20:08:36] yuvipanda: yeah... each time different, btu consistently buggy. [20:08:45] race condition [20:08:56] okay, looks like I will have to redo the menu plugin [20:09:18] yuvipanda: thats likely the same issue that i field a bug about [20:09:54] yuvipanda: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35050 [20:09:59] tfinc: can I haz? [20:10:02] oh, thanks! [20:10:05] Debloper: i was seeing something very similar and filed a bug about it [20:10:10] for me it was changing menu icons [20:10:18] eventually it settled [20:10:27] which would point to a race condition [20:10:41] yes [20:10:52]