[00:17:02] <yuvipanda>	 who am I kidding. sigh
[00:19:03] <preilly>	 yuvipanda: go to bed!
[00:19:16] <yuvipanda>	 i'm on bed.
[00:19:36] <yuvipanda>	 today I spent all my time grappling with one bug, which I couldn't even fix
[00:19:47] <yuvipanda>	 so am on a guilt trip, so fixing a few other ones so I can actually sleep
[00:20:47] <preilly>	 wow
[00:20:49] <preilly>	 just wowo
[00:20:55] <preilly>	 s/wowo/wow
[00:22:33] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: we've to figure out where we're going to store the secret keys for fb, twitter, etc
[00:23:05] <yuvipanda>	 I see a final beta happening thursday evening and an RC on monday so we can push out release on thursday
[00:23:09] <tfinc>	 dedication yuvipanda … true dedication
[00:23:11] <yuvipanda>	 preilly: :)
[00:23:25] <yuvipanda>	 guilt trips are horrible!
[00:23:42] <awjr>	 wow just found out about a hackerspace that *just* opened up in tucson: http://www.xerocraft.org/
[00:23:53] <yuvipanda>	 it's like the bad case of http://xkcd.com/573/
[00:24:28] <preilly>	 awjr: cool
[00:24:40] <awjr>	 and it's conveneiently like 6 blocks from my house
[00:25:09] <Thehelpfulone>	 I'm intrigued about the process on the apple side
[00:25:28] <Thehelpfulone>	 when you submit the code to them, their devs have to look to everything?
[00:28:38] <preilly>	 awjr: nice
[00:35:31] * yuvipanda  pokes tfinc about secret keys storage

[00:39:00] * yuvipanda  pokes tfinc about wikimania/mobile

[00:46:17] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda: i'm back
[00:46:24] <tfinc>	 so .. secret keys and wikimania
[00:46:28] <yuvipanda>	 tferminator
[00:46:37] <tfinc>	 also .. did you hear about britannica ?
[00:46:46] <yuvipanda>	 yes i did :D
[00:46:54] <Amgine>	 I didn't. What?
[00:47:00] <yuvipanda>	 Amgine: out of business
[00:47:01] <yuvipanda>	 sortof
[00:47:02] <tfinc>	 Amgine: http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/03/13/after-244-years-encyclopaedia-britannica-stops-the-presses/
[00:47:06] <tfinc>	 out of print
[00:47:08] <yuvipanda>	 no more dead tree encyclopedias from them
[00:47:17] <Amgine>	 Heh.
[00:48:07] <tfinc>	 secret hiding places .. hmm
[00:48:17] <tfinc>	 is it just an api string ?
[00:48:23] <tfinc>	 or something more complicated
[00:48:23] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: yes.
[00:48:24] <preilly>	 phrasing
[00:48:35] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: also, another problem is - whose account is going to have those?
[00:48:50] <yuvipanda>	 as in, whose facebook account is goign to create those keys?
[00:49:19] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: infact, I think if we figure that out, this problem might solve itself.
[00:50:05] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: if we figure out which facebook account is going to create the keys, then we can use the same access methods we use for @WikimediaMobile twitter account to grant access to the facebook account
[00:50:11] <yuvipanda>	 and keys can be gotten off there
[00:50:13] <yuvipanda>	 same for twitter, etc
[00:50:57] <tfinc>	 well were about to move our google play (god thats a stupid name) account to a generic account
[00:51:12] <yuvipanda>	 yes, WHAT WAS WRONG WITH ANDROID MARKET
[00:51:13] <yuvipanda>	 idiots
[00:53:58] <tfinc>	 lets not digress
[00:54:13] <tfinc>	 do we have a generic wikipedia account that we could use?
[00:54:34] * tfinc  goes to look

[00:57:59] <tfinc>	 nope
[00:58:44] <tfinc>	 i can create it under my account but thats an annoying botteneck for any change
[00:59:57] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: yes
[01:00:10] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: is it possible to create a 'Wikipedia'/'Wikimedia' account?
[01:00:35] <preilly>	 yuvipanda: not under their TOS
[01:00:56] <yuvipanda>	 preilly: hmm, no way to create a 'page' as an entity?
[01:00:57] <yuvipanda>	 ok
[01:01:38] <preilly>	 yuvipanda: nope
[01:01:43] <yuvipanda>	 sigh
[01:01:50] <tfinc>	 what about a business account ? http://www.facebook.com/help/?page=167124440013852
[01:02:13] * yuvipanda  goes about removing the block on facebook

[01:02:56] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: that looks doable
[01:03:09] <yuvipanda>	 or maybe not
[01:03:19] <yuvipanda>	 it says you can't have both a business and personal account
[01:04:05] <preilly>	 business accounts cannot be found in search, send or receive friend requests, or create/develop apps.
[01:04:32] <yuvipanda>	 augh
[01:06:55] <tfinc>	 i wonder if first name: Wiki last name : Pedia would work
[01:07:46] <preilly>	 tfinc: try it
[01:07:53] <tfinc>	 it works
[01:07:55] <yuvipanda>	 Media or Pedia?
[01:07:59] <tfinc>	 hmm
[01:08:01] <tfinc>	 Media
[01:08:05] <tfinc>	 let me try that too
[01:09:50] <tfinc>	 aww .. media doesn't work
[01:11:29] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda: why don't you try Wiki Media .. see if it works for you
[01:11:46] <yuvipanda>	 doubt that but trying anyway
[01:12:12] <preilly>	 tfinc: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003617267353
[01:13:06] <yuvipanda>	 'Sorry, we are not able to process your registration.'
[01:13:24] <yuvipanda>	 and 'You are ineligible to register for Facebook.'
[01:13:41] <tfinc>	 what .. what did you do to piss them off ;)
[01:14:12] <yuvipanda>	 just following orders :P
[01:14:27] <tfinc>	 Wikimedia/Mobile doesn't work either :(
[01:14:50] <yuvipanda>	 there is an account called Wikimedia Stories, however
[01:15:01] <yuvipanda>	 https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1731237848
[01:15:07] <yuvipanda>	 born on 'August 20, 1980'
[01:15:29] <yuvipanda>	 awjr: is even a friend of it!
[01:15:37] <yuvipanda>	 oh so is tfinc
[01:15:40] <tfinc>	 as am i
[01:18:18] <tfinc>	 lola .. i'm already getting friend invites with people who have the W as their profile photo
[01:21:17] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda: let me pass the account to you
[01:21:27] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: ah, cool
[01:21:51] <tfinc>	 log into talk so that i can send it to you over OTR
[01:21:55] <tfinc>	 gtalk*
[01:23:32] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda: get my otr message ?
[01:24:07] <tfinc>	 now i just need to change the email
[01:25:13] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: yes
[01:25:29] <tfinc>	 but we can do that later
[01:25:33] <tfinc>	 thats enough to get you started
[01:26:30] <yuvipanda>	 yup!
[01:26:37] <yuvipanda>	 am off to sleep now, will do when am back up
[10:02:43] <wikipedia-github>	 [WikipediaMobile] jdlrobson pushed 2 new commits to master: http://git.io/QIuYhg
[10:02:43] <wikipedia-github>	 [WikipediaMobile/master] Fix qqq messages - YuviPanda
[10:02:43] <wikipedia-github>	 [WikipediaMobile/master] Merge pull request #172 from yuvipanda/fix-qqq-messages - Jon Robson
[10:03:10] <mw-jenkinsbot>	 Project WikipediaMobile - Nightly builds build #235: SUCCESS in 14 sec: https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/WikipediaMobile%20-%20Nightly%20builds/235/
[10:03:10] <mw-jenkinsbot>	 yuvipanda: Fix qqq messages
[13:34:12] <mw-jenkinsbot>	 Project WiktionaryMobile - Nightly builds build #27: SUCCESS in 10 sec: https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/WiktionaryMobile%20-%20Nightly%20builds/27/
[13:34:13] <mw-jenkinsbot>	 * hy.cheng: added icon for listen-in
[13:34:13] <mw-jenkinsbot>	 * hy.cheng: fixed images to be darker
[13:51:48] <mw-jenkinsbot>	 Project WiktionaryMobile - Nightly builds build #28: SUCCESS in 7.7 sec: https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/WiktionaryMobile%20-%20Nightly%20builds/28/
[13:51:48] <mw-jenkinsbot>	 * pfhayes: Updating translation strings file for Wiktionary
[13:51:49] <mw-jenkinsbot>	 * pfhayes: Removing nearby strings
[16:34:18] <yuvipanda>	 anyone around?
[16:39:06] * MaxSem  

[16:48:19] <yuvipanda>	 jdlrobson: around?
[16:48:28] <jdlrobson>	 yeh but my computer is being weird
[16:48:36] <jdlrobson>	 i clicked shut down to try and fix it
[16:48:39] <yuvipanda>	 ah
[16:48:40] <jdlrobson>	 but it didn't shut down
[16:48:46] <yuvipanda>	 close the lid?
[16:48:46] <jdlrobson>	 but i think it is going to shut down without warning
[16:48:58] <jdlrobson>	 well the original problem was my mouse wasn't working
[16:49:02] <jdlrobson>	 i think virtual box was thrashing
[16:49:16] <jdlrobson>	 anyway i think i've stopped the shutdown
[16:49:19] <jdlrobson>	 how can i help you
[16:49:30] <yuvipanda>	 jdlrobson: the styling of the footer text in current MF
[16:49:47] <yuvipanda>	 suggestions on making it 'stand out' from content?
[16:49:55] <yuvipanda>	 possibly just making it a tad smaller, perhaps?
[16:50:04] <yuvipanda>	 one of the feedback on the iOS app was that the footer looks like text.
[16:50:07] <yuvipanda>	 *article text
[16:50:21] <yuvipanda>	 not a biggie, we can just say 'will be handled with our rework'
[16:50:57] <yuvipanda>	 but if you think there is a small fix we can do...
[16:51:21] <jdlrobson>	 it is smaller no?
[16:51:31] <yuvipanda>	 no?
[16:51:43] <jdlrobson>	 are you talking about the existing site or http://jonrobson.me.uk/wikipedia/#
[16:51:44] <jdlrobson>	 ?
[16:51:50] <yuvipanda>	 existing site
[16:51:53] <jdlrobson>	 ahhhh
[16:51:53] <jdlrobson>	 ok
[16:51:59] <jdlrobson>	 yeh that is handled in the rework
[16:52:06] <jdlrobson>	 which im hoping to push very soon
[16:52:12] <yuvipanda>	 cool!
[16:53:04] <jdlrobson>	 currently in opera mini world
[16:53:06] <jdlrobson>	 very nasty
[16:53:34] <yuvipanda>	 jdlrobson: opera mini is nasty?
[16:53:36] <yuvipanda>	 or the footer is?
[16:53:57] <jdlrobson>	 opera mini
[16:53:59] <jdlrobson>	 the footers lovely
[16:54:24] <yuvipanda>	 ah
[16:54:24] <yuvipanda>	 okay :D
[16:54:26] <jdlrobson>	 opera mini doesn't support querySelectorAll, keyup, does nasty server side stuff
[16:54:28] <jdlrobson>	 list goes on
[16:54:42] <jdlrobson>	 im trying to get search working in opera mini right now
[16:54:57] <jdlrobson>	 this is my new ie7 (blackberry is my new ie6)
[16:56:06] <yuvipanda>	 jdlrobson: hehe
[16:56:28] <yuvipanda>	 alright i'm on a bus and I don't think I'll be anywhere silent in time for the standup
[16:57:31] <yuvipanda>	 jdlrobson: I updated that pull request with localization fixes. Feel free to pull anytime.
[16:58:31] <jdlrobson>	 k will look
[16:58:45] <jdlrobson>	 any messages you want me to pass on to the standup?
[16:59:17] <yuvipanda>	 jdlrobson: I will probably be on the standup
[16:59:24] <yuvipanda>	 listening and participating via text
[16:59:30] <yuvipanda>	 unless you guys want to hear bus noises
[16:59:40] <awjr>	 i do!
[16:59:56] <yuvipanda>	 awjr: :D
[17:00:17] <yuvipanda>	 awjr: preilly is convinced the fan at my home is actually a train.
[17:00:26] <yuvipanda>	 though to be fair I *did* do one standup from a train (bad idea)
[17:00:31] <awjr>	 lol
[17:02:38] <yuvipanda>	 just so if the bus decides to reach *just* as the standup starts and I can't make it
[17:03:15] <yuvipanda>	 1. have a couple of bugs I'm tackling that should be done today (Hiding navbar during Overlay, External Links stopped working, Menu items not localized (all iOS))
[17:03:23] <yuvipanda>	 2. Final beta going out on Thursday night
[17:03:27] <yuvipanda>	 err
[17:03:50] <yuvipanda>	 Thursday evening PST, so would need tfinc to do iOS building.
[17:04:06] <yuvipanda>	 jdlrobson: are you working SF time today or UTC?
[17:04:34] <jdlrobson>	 i'll be working this evening but won't be very vocal as im going to spend most of it on a train
[17:04:43] <preilly>	 you guys ready for the call?
[17:04:44] <yuvipanda>	 hehe :D
[17:04:59] <awjr>	 you guys and your land travel
[17:05:03] <awjr>	 preilly: sure
[17:05:13] <preilly>	 awjr: what is your Skype id
[17:05:18] <awjr>	 awjrichards
[17:05:22] <awjr>	 preilly ^
[17:05:27] <yuvipanda>	 preilly: sure
[17:05:50] <preilly>	 yuvipanda: what is your Skype id
[17:05:52] <yuvipanda>	 jdlrobson: I'd need you to merge stuff in tomorrow before the beta goes out. Anticipate ~3-4 ones. Just so you know
[17:05:54] <yuvipanda>	 preilly: yuvipanda
[17:06:14] <jdlrobson>	 ok yuvipanda - tomorrow gmt?
[17:06:20] <yuvipanda>	 jdlrobson: sounds good.
[17:06:51] <yuvipanda>	 preilly: am on a bus so will listen in
[17:07:34] <preilly>	 awjr: are you on skype
[17:07:43] <preilly>	 MaxSem: what is your Skype id
[17:07:46] <jdlrobson>	 preilly: awjrichards
[17:07:51] <awjr>	 preilly: yes
[17:07:52] <MaxSem>	 maxsemenik
[17:08:02] <awjr>	 ah sorry didnt see the request
[17:08:18] <MaxSem>	 I never see those requests
[17:13:01] <yuvipanda>	 not bad
[17:13:03] <jdlrobson>	 it's times like this I wish http://yuvi.in/where.html returned more specific details such as #4 bus heading northwards and a photo
[17:13:06] <preilly>	 linSmith: sorry, I forgot to add you to the Skype call
[17:13:15] <yuvipanda>	 buses aren't as train
[17:13:28] <yuvipanda>	 jdlrobson: i reached just as we closed up
[17:13:38] <yuvipanda>	 am on the road with my air
[17:13:47] <yuvipanda>	 like some huge 'myg me' sign
[17:14:16] <linSmith>	 preilly: that's ok, nothing much to report besides that I make things look pretty
[17:14:31] <tfinc>	 greetings all
[17:14:32] <tfinc>	 hey linSmith
[17:14:37] <tfinc>	 thanks for uploading the new workflows
[17:14:48] <yuvipanda>	 dark alleyway coming up. am off for 10 mins
[17:14:57] <tfinc>	 so yuvipanda was on a bus
[17:15:06] <yuvipanda>	 brb
[17:15:07] <tfinc>	 i wasn't sure if it was bus or freeway frogger
[17:15:34] <awjr>	 tfinc: that's how i feel on the streets in india in real life too
[17:17:26] <tfinc>	 awjr: lolz
[17:17:42] <tfinc>	 office sure is empty today
[17:18:14] <linSmith>	 tfinc: no problem
[17:20:10] <awjr>	 tfinc: where is everyone?
[17:20:21] <tfinc>	 at the product retreat that erik mailed out about
[17:20:27] <awjr>	 ah right
[17:25:51] <tfinc>	 jdlrobson: nice post to mobile-l
[17:34:05] <tfinc>	 awjr: did you end up upgrading to the full version of vmware fusion 4.0 ?
[17:34:24] <awjr>	 tfinc: yeah
[17:35:01] <awjr>	 i just paid for it myself and will include it on the expense report i'll bring to SF
[17:35:41] <tfinc>	 i've been meaning to upgrade and it just showed up in this fun bundle http://www.mupromo.com/?ref=4438
[17:36:18] <awjr>	 ha wow
[17:37:34] <awjr>	 although the only things i might actually use other than vmware is star wars: tfu and worms
[17:38:18] <tfinc>	 awjr: i spent countless hours on the latter many years ago
[17:38:25] <awjr>	 hehe same :)
[17:44:09] <yuvipanda>	 ah
[17:44:10] <yuvipanda>	 back
[17:44:15] <tfinc>	 hey yuvipanda
[17:44:18] <tfinc>	 how'd the Facebook keys go?
[17:44:19] <yuvipanda>	 heya
[17:44:32] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: on another bug, will get to fb after this
[17:44:39] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda: k
[17:44:48] <yuvipanda>	 i seem to be getting closer and closer to SF time, woke up at 0530 PM today.
[17:45:00] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda: haha
[17:45:24] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: final beta thurs PST 3PM? I'd need you to make iOS builds
[17:47:03] <tfinc>	 yeah, i'll be around
[17:47:39] <yuvipanda>	 cool
[18:17:12] <tfinc>	 MaxSem: can you add your 20% days to http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_engineering_20%25_policy
[18:19:09] <MaxSem>	 do they have to be fixed? I prefer not to interrupt work on a feature just because today's a specific day of the week
[18:23:00] <awjr>	 MaxSem: i was feeling the same way but i've found it's actually nice to have a set time blocked out for it to plan around, plus it makes people who are relying on you for 20% work happier to know that the timing is predictable (eg robla who's managing 20% time or community members who want some support from you, etc), as well as people who rely on you for non-20% time related things will know not to bug you during those set times
[18:33:40] <MaxSem>	 hmm, I'll think about it
[18:45:57] <tfinc>	 MaxSem: if your not sure of the day then just throw your name on the list and say what your available for to start
[18:46:33] <MaxSem>	 okay
[18:49:58] <tfinc>	 MaxSem: can you respond to this http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/xmldatadumps-l/2012-March/000438.html .. someone asking about how to directly read out geo tags. would be good to let them know of our efforts
[18:51:41] <MaxSem>	 heh, if only I could tell him our ETA
[18:51:49] <MaxSem>	 subscribing...
[19:08:07] <tfinc>	 MaxSem: i cc'd you on a quick response too
[19:08:33] <MaxSem>	 already sent by the time I received it
[20:26:45] <MaxSem>	 yuvipanda, do you have any idea how our Wiktionary app utilises the API? maybe, they need something that's not yet there?
[20:26:58] <yuvipanda>	 MaxSem: the WIktionary app?
[20:26:59] <yuvipanda>	 it doesn't
[20:27:07] <yuvipanda>	 it's a straight up port of our Wikipedia code
[20:27:23] <MaxSem>	 eh, screen-scraping, too?
[20:27:28] * MaxSem  facepalms

[20:27:39] <yuvipanda>	 MaxSem: yes :)
[20:27:54] <yuvipanda>	 MaxSem: will change after 1.1 sir :)
[20:28:12] <MaxSem>	 I'd like to hear their requirements, too
[20:29:46] <yuvipanda>	 MaxSem: Amgine would be the best person to talk to, and pfhayes too. IIRC amgine is travelling right now, will poke you when he's back.
[20:30:04] <MaxSem>	 thnx
[21:00:22] <tfinc>	 heatherw: are you on mobile-l ?
[21:00:33] <heatherw>	 hmm
[21:00:47] <heatherw>	 not sure tfinc
[21:00:50] <tfinc>	 if so then i'd love for you to jump in on the discussion about section arrows
[21:01:03] <tfinc>	 if not then i can cc you while you subscribe
[21:01:10] <tfinc>	 let me give you a link to the back story
[21:01:21] <tfinc>	 http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mobile-l/2012-March/005417.html
[21:01:22] <heatherw>	 yes i am but i get digest
[21:01:58] <tfinc>	 heatherw: bah, its such a low traffic lit!
[21:02:02] <tfinc>	 list*
[21:02:06] <heatherw>	 :)
[21:02:17] <heatherw>	 i can switch
[21:07:36] <heatherw>	 thanks! tfinc
[21:09:49] <heatherw>	 i've been wanting to chat with jon about some tweaks also, know when he is normally around? tfinc
[21:10:32] <tfinc>	 PDT on Mondays and standard  UTC hours the rest of the week
[21:10:40] <tfinc>	 we tend to catch him in the morning
[21:10:45] <heatherw>	 ah
[21:10:58] <tfinc>	 he's in the uk
[21:11:34] <heatherw>	 yeah
[22:15:14] <Joan>	 I filed https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35233 just now.
[22:15:41] <awjr>	 Joan: how may aliases do you have?!?! :p
[22:15:50] <Joan>	 (o;
[22:16:04] <Joan>	 They change every few months.
[22:16:11] <Joan>	 Change is healthy!
[22:16:27] <Joan>	 I thought the mobile sites were already marked noindex, but I may have been imaginging that.
[22:16:33] <Joan>	 imagining, even.
[22:17:19] <Joan>	 Hmmmm.
[22:17:22] <Joan>	 No, I'm right.
[22:17:24] <Joan>	 They were marked...
[22:17:29] <Joan>	 <meta name="ROBOTS" content="NOINDEX, NOFOLLOW" />
[22:18:11] <awjr>	 orly
[22:18:20] <Joan>	 Yes.
[22:18:20] <preilly>	 MZMcBride: Google asked us to change that
[22:18:32] <Joan>	 http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki?view=revision&revision=113378
[22:18:46] <preilly>	 MZMcBride: they are indexing the mobile site for their mobile search index
[22:18:53] <Joan>	 Hmmm.
[22:19:04] <preilly>	 MZMcBride: we now redirect googlebot for mobile UAs
[22:19:32] <Joan>	 All right.
[22:21:29] <Joan>	 Well, that's that, then.
[22:21:36] <Joan>	 Thanks. :-)
[22:21:59] <preilly>	 Joan: thanks, for noticing… it's always nice having someone looking out.
[22:25:29] <Joan>	 I got a Google Alert. (o;
[22:25:37] <Joan>	 And I was all "whaa? I thought it wasn't indexed."
[22:29:33] <MaxSem>	 gah... just noticed that the cool new API I was writing was scary performance-wise
[22:29:58] <MaxSem>	 will have to redesign and restrict at spec level
[22:30:12] <awjr>	 bummer MaxSem :(
[22:44:28] <awjr>	 tfinc, prielly: was just cruising through bugzilla and saw this: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34292 what is the current thinking about this issue, if any?
[22:44:51] <awjr>	 er, preilly, that is ^
[22:45:44] <MaxSem>	 awjr, fixmed
[22:46:28] <awjr>	 MaxSem: thanks - missed those
[22:48:33] * awjr  turns on E_STRICT...

[22:50:54] <awjr>	 MaxSem: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/113870
[22:51:28] <MaxSem>	 awjr, commented out code
[22:51:43] <awjr>	 doh
[22:51:45] <MaxSem>	 // || $action === 'history' ) {
[22:51:51] <awjr>	 oops thanks
[22:52:14] * MaxSem  is annoying, as always

[22:52:17] <MaxSem>	 :)
[22:53:03] <awjr>	 heh hardly
[22:53:11] <awjr>	 i can't wait til we're using git
[22:54:18] <MaxSem>	 how can it help?
[22:55:26] <awjr>	 easy local branching for experimental things; 'stashing' commits for later checkins; chunked up commits
[22:55:51] <awjr>	 it makes screwing around while simultaneously fixing bugs while simultaneously adding new things a lot easier :)
[22:57:11] <awjr>	 MaxSem: i reverted that previous commit. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/113872
[22:58:53] <MaxSem>	 confirmed
[22:59:16] <awjr>	 phew! thanks
[23:06:27] <tfinc>	 awjr: its blocked on the new nav
[23:06:30] <tfinc>	 as most things are
[23:08:09] <awjr>	 tfinc: roger
[23:09:01] <tfinc>	 awjr: we want to do it. its just a matter of
[23:09:04] <tfinc>	 1) where to put it
[23:09:10] <tfinc>	 2) what it should look like
[23:09:17] <tfinc>	 we'll have #1 with the nav
[23:09:32] <tfinc>	 at first we can just link to the desktop site
[23:09:41] <tfinc>	 but eventually we'll have a mobile view of it
[23:10:07] <awjr>	 tfinc: for sure, that's what i figured - i was just curious sine it's the only 'critical' bug and no one from the team's commented on it
[23:11:16] <tfinc>	 put a note in it and make it dependent on the new nav. if the new nav doesn't have a bug yet then please open
[23:11:22] <tfinc>	 that way we can clean those bugs u
[23:11:23] <tfinc>	 p
[23:11:26] <awjr>	 yup
[23:11:42] <tfinc>	 last week i did a triage of our app bugs and sorted them neatly with deps and such
[23:11:47] <tfinc>	 i haven't done the same for MF yet
[23:14:34] <tfinc>	 awjr: heads up that the fix in bug #35205 can't go out until the disable option has a home
[23:15:16] <awjr>	 tfinc: ?
[23:15:32] <awjr>	 what do you mean 'disable option'?
[23:15:33] <tfinc>	 we can't remove that as a feature
[23:15:39] <tfinc>	 people use it
[23:15:40] <awjr>	 it's not removed as a feature
[23:15:50] <awjr>	 clicking on 'Desktop view' duplicates the functionality
[23:15:51] <tfinc>	 ooh
[23:15:51] <tfinc>	 wait
[23:16:01] <tfinc>	 brilliant :D
[23:16:03] <tfinc>	 carry on
[23:16:07] <awjr>	 :)
[23:16:09] <tfinc>	 why didn't we do that sooner
[23:16:12] <tfinc>	 haha
[23:16:14] <awjr>	 just trying to simplify things :)
[23:16:19] <tfinc>	 totally .. good thinking
[23:16:26] <awjr>	 it seems the 'permanantly disable mobile frontend' was a carry-over from the ruby gateway
[23:16:31] <awjr>	 thank brion - it was his suggestion :)
[23:16:40] <tfinc>	 indeed
[23:16:45] <preilly>	 tfinc: it was good brion thinking even
[23:17:01] <tfinc>	 i guess that makes him better then 2d brion
[23:17:14] <preilly>	 only ever so slightly
[23:18:16] <preilly>	 awjr: why do you have this:  if ( $action === 'edit' ){// || $action === 'history' ) {
[23:18:20] <awjr>	 tfinc: is this the bug you opened to track the nav related stuff? https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32117
[23:18:22] <tfinc>	 heads up the i'm tidying up http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Mobile_and_Special_Projects_engineering and adding missing project pages
[23:18:30] <awjr>	 preilly: it was an accidental commit
[23:18:34] <awjr>	 reverted later
[23:20:04] <preilly>	 awjr: https://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/MobileFrontend/MobileFrontend.body.php?revision=113870&view=markup&pathrev=113870
[23:20:10] <preilly>	 awjr: that still looks wrong to me
[23:20:36] <awjr>	 preilly: that revision was reverted
[23:20:37] <awjr>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/113870
[23:21:22] <awjr>	 preilly: it was followed up by https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/113871 and  https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/113872
[23:21:33] <awjr>	 so… svn up i guess :p
[23:22:03] <preilly>	 awjr: I still see if ( $action === 'edit' ){// || $action === 'history' ) {
[23:22:13] <preilly>	 awjr: Updated to revision 113875.
[23:22:29] <awjr>	 !
[23:22:31] <awjr>	 damn it
[23:23:28] <awjr>	 oh weird, it looks like my revert in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/113871 only touched FooterTemplate.php...
[23:24:30] <awjr>	 jebus
[23:24:33] <awjr>	 ok preilly: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/113876
[23:24:51] <preilly>	 awjr: much better
[23:57:41] <awjr>	 do any of you guys know how to handle testing cookies with phpunit?
[23:58:49] <MaxSem>	 you need to check whether a cookie gets set?