[00:01:04] <devgeeks>	 K
[00:01:08] <devgeeks>	 Just doing it now
[00:01:10] <devgeeks>	 lol
[00:01:57] <BarkingFish>	 awjr: we have a problem Houston.  I can't get the bug to submit on the bugzilla, it keeps resetting the dang connection
[00:02:14] <awjr>	 BarkingFish: Are you using windows mobile :p
[00:02:24] <BarkingFish>	 no, firefox over linux :)
[00:02:30] <awjr>	 juuuuust kidding
[00:02:49] <awjr>	 message in #mediawiki or #wikimedia-operations
[00:06:27] <BarkingFish>	 never mind, it's just gone up on the 10th attempt
[00:06:39] <BarkingFish>	 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35250
[00:10:00] <devgeeks>	 pfft.. typo in the RIL API instructions
[00:11:05] <YuviPanda>	 devgeeks: if only it were a wiki… :P
[00:11:12] <YuviPanda>	 oh, maybe then it'd be as useless as phonegap's
[00:11:47] <devgeeks>	 ow
[00:11:52] <devgeeks>	 harsh (but fair)
[00:13:23] <devgeeks>	 Yeah... this should have been a 10 minute plugin, stoopid bad docs...
[00:14:11] <devgeeks>	 did tey even check these ?
[00:14:13] <devgeeks>	 lol
[00:14:46] <YuviPanda>	 devgeeks: :)
[00:15:25] <YuviPanda>	 devgeeks: is there a nice resource of phonegap docs (other than reference docs) that i'm missing? Have had to dive into the code several times to understand things...
[00:15:57] <devgeeks>	 You mean besides http://docs.phonegap.com ?
[00:16:03] <YuviPanda>	 yes?
[00:16:22] <devgeeks>	 Only tutorials and stuff... very spread out and a lot is out of date
[00:16:24] <devgeeks>	 :/
[00:16:49] <YuviPanda>	 out of date it perhaps phonegap's biggest problems
[00:16:59] <devgeeks>	 yeah
[00:17:11] <devgeeks>	 Ya know how kids talk faster than they think?
[00:17:21] <devgeeks>	 PhoneGap devs faster than it Docs
[00:17:26] <devgeeks>	 :/
[00:17:53] <devgeeks>	 And they are surprised when they change the NAME and all the CALLS and don't update the DOCS and everyone freaks out
[00:18:02] <YuviPanda>	 :D
[00:18:03] <devgeeks>	 lol
[00:18:25] <YuviPanda>	 the changelog didn't even mention properly that 'oh, and all your plugins will now break'
[00:18:30] <devgeeks>	 and Brian Leroux treats plugin devs like they are using private api calls
[00:18:36] <devgeeks>	 yeah
[00:18:57] <devgeeks>	 "…we’ve made no commitment on the plugin api (its never been official) so I don’t feel we’re breaking any promises"
[00:19:05] <devgeeks>	 ^^^ Actual quote
[00:19:17] <YuviPanda>	 devgeeks: I think our 1.2 release would be just cordova + internal API moves. Should move to a much faster release cycle.
[00:19:17] * devgeeks  boggles

[00:19:25] <YuviPanda>	 devgeeks: heh.
[00:19:53] <YuviPanda>	 devgeeks: however, if that it is what it takes to clean stuff out, I'm all for breaking backwards compatibility
[00:19:56] <YuviPanda>	 docs
[00:20:04] <devgeeks>	 well, the API doesn't seem to throw errors so all it needs is a success callback
[00:20:31] <devgeeks>	 They just need to warn ppl and have the old versions easily available for download as a "stable version":
[00:21:03] <devgeeks>	 You can't chastise ppl for using the bleeding edge version when that's ALL they have for download anywhere except a github tag repo
[00:21:26] <YuviPanda>	 yes, jdlrobson was trying to set our code up and had to spend a while hunting for a 1.4.1
[00:21:33] <devgeeks>	 Sorry.. been holding this in for a while ;)
[00:21:39] <YuviPanda>	 devgeeks: hehe :)
[00:21:57] <YuviPanda>	 devgeeks: it is possible that 'this too shall pass' and the Apache process will bring a sense of calmness to the project
[00:22:14] <devgeeks>	 it will... it'll just be a bumpy ride
[00:22:24] <devgeeks>	 especially for lovers of plugins like myself
[00:22:52] <YuviPanda>	 yes.
[00:23:14] <YuviPanda>	 we've been using plugins more of 'workarounds for webkit' though
[00:23:19] <devgeeks>	 yeah
[00:23:26] <devgeeks>	 though the sharing stuff...
[00:24:30] <YuviPanda>	 devgeeks: atleast for android, we basically added a lot of functionality to the webintents plugin and used just that
[00:24:51] <YuviPanda>	 or rather, could use just that. We're still using the older share plugin though. Should remove
[00:25:14] <devgeeks>	 I just love and want your menu plugin
[00:25:29] <devgeeks>	 Wish I had seen that before I wrote a menu in css/js
[00:27:16] <YuviPanda>	 devgeeks: which one?
[00:27:19] <YuviPanda>	 devgeeks: android?
[00:27:28] <devgeeks>	 yeah
[00:27:44] <YuviPanda>	 devgeeks: it's a horrible mess. Will get a cleanup by 1.2 though.
[00:27:56] <YuviPanda>	 it *does*, however, 'work' :)
[00:27:58] <devgeeks>	 I built one using jQuery animations and css
[00:28:29] <devgeeks>	 works, but is always the same colour (unlike real menus that change with different OS versions, etc)
[00:28:32] <YuviPanda>	 to mimick android's?
[00:28:35] <devgeeks>	 yeah
[00:32:11] <YuviPanda>	 tfinc: poke
[00:32:20] <tfinc>	 YuviPanda: finishing up a call
[00:32:22] <YuviPanda>	 okay
[00:32:25] <tfinc>	 godo candidate for QA
[00:32:55] <tfinc>	 good*
[00:32:58] <YuviPanda>	 am I glad to hear that! :)
[00:33:36] <tfinc>	 its about time as pickings have been slim
[00:38:40] <YuviPanda>	 and when you're done, tfinc have a look at https://www.google.co.in/search?q=gpl+app+store and I think that'll bite us
[00:38:52] <tfinc>	 ok
[00:39:18] <tfinc>	 our old iOS app is already GPL
[00:40:15] <devgeeks>	 doesn't mean it's OK. Just that you did it ;)
[00:41:00] <tfinc>	 :D
[00:43:01] <YuviPanda>	 tfinc: i'll let you take care of that mess :)
[00:44:06] <devgeeks>	 haha
[00:45:20] <YuviPanda>	 devgeeks: don't forget to put the RIL plugin up somewhere before you crash for the day :)
[00:45:29] <devgeeks>	 heh
[00:45:33] <devgeeks>	 just testing it now
[00:45:45] <devgeeks>	 Not even lunchtime here ;)
[00:46:09] <YuviPanda>	 ah, aussieworld :)
[00:46:12] <devgeeks>	 :)
[00:51:30] <tfinc>	 ok.. finally done
[00:51:59] <YuviPanda>	 tfinc: iOS build
[00:52:17] <tfinc>	 ok
[00:52:33] * tfinc  goes to pull the latest changes

[00:52:49] <tfinc>	 YuviPanda: do you have any extra UDID's for me to add?
[00:52:54] <YuviPanda>	 tfinc: this beta won't have twitter integration - let's do one on Monday with Twitter + Facebook + RIL sharing options.
[00:52:55] <YuviPanda>	 tfinc: nope
[00:53:06] <devgeeks>	 taking longer to make a index.html to call the plugin than to make the plugin
[00:53:12] <tfinc>	 i added a couple of them so let me pull the cert
[00:53:24] <YuviPanda>	 devgeeks: :D
[00:54:12] <tfinc>	 ok .. latest cert generated and install
[00:54:13] <tfinc>	 time to build
[00:55:14] <tfinc>	 builds clean .. now let me verify it
[00:56:06] <tfinc>	 no build issues
[00:56:12] <tfinc>	 i'm noticing one UI issue
[00:56:15] <YuviPanda>	 tfinc: also move this http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8768784/WikipediaMobile-v1.1beta4.apk into dumps.* as well
[00:56:17] <tfinc>	 the spinner never goes away
[00:56:21] <tfinc>	 k
[00:56:25] <YuviPanda>	 tfinc: do a make remotes
[00:56:29] <tfinc>	 right
[00:56:36] <YuviPanda>	 tfinc: spinner never goes away -> broken
[00:56:37] <tfinc>	 i hate that
[00:56:50] <YuviPanda>	 tfinc: we'll move that to a git submodule soonish.
[00:57:04] <YuviPanda>	 so you can do git submodule update instead of make :P
[00:57:58] <tfinc>	 that fixed it
[00:58:10] <tfinc>	 our app icon looks really ugly
[00:58:19] <tfinc>	 in the simulator
[00:58:42] <YuviPanda>	 tfinc: aliased?
[00:58:43] <tfinc>	 no issues found in the build
[00:58:55] <tfinc>	 yeah, its really un aliased
[00:59:15] <YuviPanda>	 unaliased would be smooth and good looking. aliased would be jaggedy.
[00:59:27] <YuviPanda>	 hmm, should do an icons/graphics resolution update.
[01:00:33] <devgeeks>	 too east
[01:00:38] <devgeeks>	 easy, even, lol
[01:01:23] <devgeeks>	 Now to document it
[01:01:31] <YuviPanda>	 docuwhat?
[01:01:35] <devgeeks>	 hahah
[01:02:03] <devgeeks>	 only cause the RIL ones are WRONG
[01:03:21] <tfinc>	 we'll want to fix it for RC1
[01:03:22] <YuviPanda>	 aah!
[01:03:32] <YuviPanda>	 tfinc: icons? yes.
[01:03:45] <tfinc>	 this is 3.1beta3 right ?
[01:03:49] <YuviPanda>	 yes
[01:03:58] <awjr>	 preilly: just noticed there's no beta_application.js but there's still beta_application.min.js - do you know if that's intentional?
[01:04:45] <awjr>	 in trunk, that is
[01:05:17] <tfinc>	 YuviPanda: http://dumps.wikimedia.org/iOS/Wikipedia-3.1beta3.ipa
[01:05:41] <YuviPanda>	 tfinc: cool
[01:05:50] <YuviPanda>	 tfinc: copy the apk i gave you into dumps.*?
[01:05:53] <tfinc>	 now time for the apk
[01:07:41] <tfinc>	 http://dumps.wikimedia.org/android/WikipediaMobile-V1.1beta4.apk
[01:09:09] <YuviPanda>	 tfinc: want to read through once? http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/app-1-1beta4-3-1beta3-release-notes
[01:09:18] <tfinc>	 YuviPanda: any reason why your keeping mobile in the name ?
[01:09:24] <tfinc>	 i don't mind trimming it to just Wikipedia
[01:09:35] <tfinc>	 for the next release
[01:09:37] <YuviPanda>	 nope, nothing in particular.
[01:09:38] <tfinc>	 taking a look
[01:09:38] <YuviPanda>	 will do
[01:10:19] <tfinc>	 menu fix.. yes!
[01:11:37] <tfinc>	 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mobile_Projects/WikipediaMobileiOSFeedback#v3.1Beta2 needs cleanup
[01:11:40] <tfinc>	 want me to help?
[01:12:15] <tfinc>	 wow .. there is a review of our app on the feedback page .. nice
[01:13:24] <YuviPanda>	 tfinc: I moved out the stuff that's been fixed into an archive page
[01:13:35] <tfinc>	 more people wanting a night mode
[01:13:40] <tfinc>	 do we have a bug about that?
[01:13:47] <YuviPanda>	 nope!
[01:14:09] <Amgine>	 <wants a pdf reader with night mode>
[01:14:30] <YuviPanda>	 Amgine: just a fyi, MaxSem was looking for 'API stuff that Wiktionary folks might need to make their life easier'
[01:14:39] <YuviPanda>	 Amgine: so if you've ideas, poke him when you see him next
[01:14:43] <YuviPanda>	 Amgine: poke him anyway.
[01:14:48] <YuviPanda>	 tfinc: i'll file one
[01:14:50] <Amgine>	 <laughs>
[01:16:02] <YuviPanda>	 tfinc: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35251
[01:16:14] <tfinc>	 thanks
[01:16:23] <YuviPanda>	 tfinc: email good to shoot
[01:16:24] <YuviPanda>	 ?
[01:16:32] <tfinc>	 go for it
[01:18:12] <YuviPanda>	 tfinc: sent
[01:18:51] <YuviPanda>	 tfinc: do test out the beta on your phone :)
[01:18:56] <tfinc>	 YuviPanda: will do
[01:18:57] <YuviPanda>	 poke brion if/when you see him
[01:19:07] <YuviPanda>	 i'll email the iOS beta testers again tomorrow.
[01:19:15] <devgeeks>	 almost done
[01:19:25] <YuviPanda>	 damn just realized I've a lot of expense reports to file :|
[01:19:42] <Amgine>	 yuvipanda: where is the apk? also looking for the apk for the wiktionary alpha.
[01:20:11] <tfinc>	 awjr: http://learnpythonthehardway.org/
[01:20:12] <YuviPanda>	 Amgine: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mobile-l/2012-March/005436.html has apk urls
[01:20:36] <YuviPanda>	 alright, good night everyone :)
[01:20:41] <tfinc>	 night yuvi
[01:20:55] <YuviPanda>	 gnite at 7AM. I *might* want to 'fix' this.
[01:20:56] <YuviPanda>	 bye
[01:20:57] <tfinc>	 for our next release make sure to budget an hour or so so that you can stick around AFTER the email
[01:21:09] <devgeeks>	 ack. too slow
[01:21:29] <devgeeks>	 heh
[01:24:35] <awjr>	 tfinc: love it!
[01:24:40] <awjr>	 have you looked through it?
[01:27:08] <tfinc>	 awjr: i just started to
[01:27:16] <tfinc>	 it came up while i was talking to one of the qa candidates
[01:27:39] <tfinc>	 the qa candidate was to write the mobile web testing version of it
[01:28:19] <devgeeks>	 https://github.com/devgeeks/ReadItLaterPlugin
[01:28:39] <awjr>	 tfinc: cool - promissing candidate?
[01:28:39] <devgeeks>	 Can't believe I didn't finish before YuviPanda left
[01:28:40] <devgeeks>	 lol
[01:29:16] <awjr>	 devgeeks: awesome :D
[01:30:01] <devgeeks>	 I woulda finished before he left if I hadn't spent so much time complaining about 1.5.0 :)
[01:30:28] <awjr>	 devgeeks: heh no worries, yuvi will be back on sooner rather than later. he tends to not stay away for too long
[01:30:57] <tfinc>	 awjr: very much so
[01:31:04] <awjr>	 \o/
[01:31:07] <awjr>	 finally
[01:31:07] <devgeeks>	 hah
[01:33:22] <devgeeks>	 A plugin in less than 2 hours. This is what I love about PhoneGap
[01:34:02] <tfinc>	 devgeeks: what does it do ?
[01:34:10] <tfinc>	 awjr: yeah, the QA pickings have been really really slim
[01:34:23] <devgeeks>	 tfinc: Read It Later sharing
[01:34:24] <tfinc>	 awjr: a good front end phone screen today as well
[01:34:30] <tfinc>	 devgeeks: nice
[01:34:43] <tfinc>	 awjr: i'm going to move the front end dev to the task stage
[01:34:44] <devgeeks>	 Since Yuvi said he missed it since stripping ShareKit ;)
[01:35:02] <awjr>	 tfinc: sounds like a good day :)
[01:36:36] <tfinc>	 awjr: much better then the ones in the early afternoon
[01:40:49] <awjr>	 awesome
[01:40:50] <awjr>	 ok im off
[01:40:55] <awjr>	 talk to you all later
[01:41:00] <devgeeks>	 bye
[01:42:00] <devgeeks>	 might 1.5.0 the plugin after I eat something
[01:42:09] <tfinc>	 devgeeks: enjoy the noms
[01:42:49] <devgeeks>	 :)
[01:43:33] <tfinc>	 heatherw: any chance you could grab this easy bug ? https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34990
[03:36:41] <devgeeks>	 Instapaper has a nice basic REST api. Bless you Marco.
[16:58:18] <tfinc>	 greetings all
[16:59:13] <tfinc>	 MaxSem: yuvipanda : awjr_afk : ready for the stand up ?
[16:59:20] * tfinc  wonders where jon is

[16:59:22] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: yup
[17:00:18] <tfinc>	 linSmith: sorry to hear that your not feeling well
[17:00:24] <tfinc>	 lets give the others 5min to show up
[17:00:33] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda: hows our feedback looking?
[17:00:33] <awjr>	 tfinc: yep
[17:01:28] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: looks like i'll have to personally poke everyone again.
[17:02:13] <MaxSem>	 yup
[17:02:35] <tfinc>	 greetings jdlrobson
[17:02:36] <linSmith>	 tfinc: thanks, good thing I actually can work from home today, my power went out this morning and I just got it back on
[17:02:59] <jdlrobson>	 hey tfinc - are we skypeing?
[17:03:01] * yuvipanda  is at a coffee shop, should finish up and head home.

[17:03:14] <tfinc>	 jdlrobson: we were waiting for a couple more of you guys to show ;)
[17:03:27] <yuvipanda>	 couple more of jdlrobsons?
[17:03:35] <tfinc>	 but now we have enough to get started
[17:03:39] <jdlrobson>	 there are a few of us going around
[17:03:48] <jdlrobson>	 jdlrobson2 and jdlrobson3 sometimes show up when i have a bad connection
[17:03:56] <yuvipanda>	 better than jdlrobson_
[17:03:58] <yuvipanda>	 tails meh
[17:04:04] <jdlrobson>	 he's the evil one
[17:04:08] <tfinc>	 linSmith: whats your Skype id ?
[17:04:09] <tfinc>	 haha
[17:04:14] <tfinc>	 feel free to pm it to me
[17:12:14] <yuvipanda>	 alright, let me get on the bus *now* :)
[17:12:17] <yuvipanda>	 cya guys in a few minutes.
[17:13:08] <awjr>	 oh yeah - i forgot to mention during standup
[17:13:25] <awjr>	 i also fixed the 'permanantly disable this site' functionality that was broken in production yesterday
[17:13:30] <tfinc>	 woot
[17:13:42] <awjr>	 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35249
[17:16:59] <tfinc>	 awjr: which of those changes are we planning on going out on monday?
[17:17:16] * tfinc  goes to check http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MobileFrontend/Deployments#15_March.2C_2012

[17:19:33] <awjr>	 tfinc: funny you should mention that, i'm in the middle of emailing everyone
[17:19:40] <awjr>	 about adding to the deployment page
[17:20:03] <awjr>	 i pushed the fix for bug 35249 yesterday
[17:22:31] * tfinc  goes to updated the project page with that

[17:22:49] <tfinc>	 i'm experimenting with what level of updates makes sense on our project pages
[17:23:00] <tfinc>	 the ones linked to from http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Mobile_and_Special_Projects_engineering
[17:44:04] <tfinc>	 nice job on code review preilly
[18:07:10] <preilly>	 tfinc: np
[18:17:32] <yuvipanda>	 took longer than expected
[18:22:39] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: got a moment?
[18:58:38] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda: yes
[18:58:49] <tfinc>	 linSmith: skype/phone/other ?
[18:59:13] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: pm?
[18:59:18] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda: sure
[18:59:37] <linSmith>	 tfinc: Skype or phone is fine with me
[18:59:43] <tfinc>	 k
[19:28:40] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: also, thoughts on GPL and App Store?
[19:29:03] <yuvipanda>	 to be legally 'right' we'd need to dual license.  Or some such trickery
[19:31:30] <tfinc>	 i should take this up to legal
[19:31:49] <tfinc>	 as its beyond my engineer brain
[19:32:08] <tfinc>	 can you mail and summarize it for me .. then we can get legal involved
[19:32:17] <tfinc>	 what would we dual license with ?
[19:33:24] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: usually Apache
[19:33:28] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: *but* that entails
[19:33:34] <yuvipanda>	 us pinging every prior contributor
[19:33:37] <yuvipanda>	 and asking for approval
[19:34:15] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: IIRC that doesn't need to block our app store push, but we'll be legally in violation of the GPL until we dual license
[19:34:22] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: let me write that email
[19:34:25] * tfinc  nods

[19:43:24] <preilly>	 http://www.fsf.org/blogs/licensing/more-about-the-app-store-gpl-enforcement lame
[19:43:45] <yuvipanda>	 preilly: very.
[20:24:20] <aharoni>	 yuvipanda: yo
[20:24:28] <aharoni>	 sorry about disappearing.
[20:24:42] <yuvipanda>	 aharoni: holla!
[20:24:52] <aharoni>	 had an usually long meeting and an unusually long dinner.
[20:24:56] <aharoni>	 so anyway,
[20:25:18] <aharoni>	 switch the locale to Hebrew or Arabic
[20:25:24] <aharoni>	 start the app
[20:25:37] <aharoni>	 menu > more > settings
[20:25:44] <aharoni>	 the menu is totally screwed up.
[20:26:08] <yuvipanda>	 awugh
[20:26:11] <yuvipanda>	 aharoni: checking, gimme a moment
[20:29:50] <aharoni>	 it's basically a regression of https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34168
[20:30:34] <aharoni>	 It started to work very well in Pune and now it's more broken than before Pune. The down-arrow icons overlap with the text.
[20:34:52] <aharoni>	 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35270
[20:35:03] <MaxSem>	 tfinc, so who goes to wikimania?
[20:36:14] <yuvipanda>	 aharoni: yes, we fixed a bug that caused larger tap areas
[20:36:18] <yuvipanda>	 and that re-introduced this
[20:36:22] <yuvipanda>	 aharoni: let me poke around
[20:40:39] <tfinc>	 MaxSem: on a call
[20:49:49] <tfinc>	 ok back
[20:50:24] <tfinc>	 MaxSem: if you submit a talk then you have a much better chance of going :)
[20:51:06] <MaxSem>	 it's called blackmailing! :P
[20:51:20] <tfinc>	 haha
[20:51:31] <tfinc>	 MaxSem: if you went what would you want to present on ?
[20:51:41] <MaxSem>	 where to submit - wikimania site?
[20:51:45] <tfinc>	 yuvi is looking at presenting on mobile apps for instance
[20:51:46] <tfinc>	 yes
[20:52:10] <tfinc>	 grabbing food .. bbiab
[20:52:36] <MaxSem>	 well, I can discuss the very thing I'm doing for WMF - data extraction from wikipedia
[20:54:08] <MaxSem>	 and let everyone's ears suffer from my accent
[20:57:06] <chrismcmahon>	 MaxSem: out of curiosity, data extraction for what purpose?
[20:57:22] <MaxSem>	 for all of them! :P
[20:57:37] <chrismcmahon>	 example(s)?
[20:58:21] <MaxSem>	 if seriously, I'm currently working on mobile projects but try to make my APIs as useful for everyone as possible
[21:00:14] <chrismcmahon>	 MaxSem: one of many ongoing concerns is that eventually some automated UI tests will want to have reliable test data.  I made a little spike yesterday to use a couple of the MW apis from a script.
[21:01:05] <MaxSem>	 and I'd like to discuss some ways of obtaining needed information from WP and wikis in general from wiki's and reuser's perspective
[21:04:25] <tfinc>	 MaxSem: bah, your accent isn't that thick
[21:04:34] <tfinc>	 i can understand you just fine
[21:04:57] <MaxSem>	 yeah, I know that Reedy's accent is even worse :P
[21:05:04] <tfinc>	 exactly
[21:05:09] <awjr>	 hahhaha
[21:05:16] <tfinc>	 i  have no idea what Reedy is saying 3/4 of the time
[21:05:24] <Reedy>	 It's alright, I don't either
[21:05:53] <awjr>	 :p
[21:08:35] <MaxSem>	 yuvipanda, I don't see your submission
[21:08:47] <yuvipanda>	 MaxSem: you'll see it in a day, I guess.
[21:08:55] <yuvipanda>	 MaxSem: just talked with tfinc on what I'm going to talk on
[21:09:03] * yuvipanda  wonders how his accent's like

[21:09:15] <MaxSem>	 1) existent
[21:09:31] * yuvipanda  wonders how his accent's like without a bus in the background

[21:10:54] <yuvipanda>	 MaxSem: I enjoy listening to you speak. You seem to relish every word as you speak :)
[21:13:00] <MaxSem>	 when I speak English I hear my brains cracking from overload
[21:13:26] <awjr>	 rofl
[21:14:03] <yuvipanda>	 that seems to happen to me when I write/read tamil
[21:14:10] <yuvipanda>	 getting better now though :)
[21:14:28] <MaxSem>	 I thought it's your native language
[21:15:10] <yuvipanda>	 it is
[21:15:17] <yuvipanda>	 I can read and write it fine
[21:15:22] <yuvipanda>	 but not as fluent as english
[21:15:49] <yuvipanda>	 it is possibly interesting, considering that I couldn't speak or write english properly until I was ~9
[21:16:21] <yuvipanda>	 One popular view is that computers and the internet taught me way more english than my school and parents could teach me tamil :)
[21:16:45] <yuvipanda>	 MaxSem: when signing my name in Tamil in the Pune Hackathon Banner, I got one of the characters in my name wrong, for example
[21:16:50] <yuvipanda>	 simply because it has been years since I've had to write my name in tamil
[21:35:27] <preilly>	 http://wikimania2012.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/The_Wikipedia_Mobile_Experience
[21:35:31] <tfinc>	 linSmith: have you looked at Wikia's for mobile nav ideas ?
[21:39:56] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: email sent
[21:43:42] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: do try to include me in further discussions over the license :)
[21:46:05] <tfinc>	 i'm meeting with kelly in 15min about mobile privacy so i'll try and bring it up
[21:47:37] <tfinc>	 linSmith: specifically take a look at http://muppet.wikia.com/wiki/Muppet_Wiki and see how they do menus, share, etc
[21:48:32] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: i guess this is a different issue than privacy, but feel free.
[21:48:49] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda: i meant that i'll ask her if we have time after talking about mobile privacy
[21:48:54] <yuvipanda>	 ah cool
[21:49:05] <yuvipanda>	 but do note that we should *ideally* have this resolved before publishing
[21:49:17] * tfinc  nods 

[21:51:27] <yuvipanda>	 possibly more than ideally. *we* of all people don't want to be violating open source license
[21:51:28] <yuvipanda>	 *licenses
[22:02:08] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda: great summary email about everything
[22:02:31] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: not sure how public it should've been.
[22:02:40] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: license issues devolve into flame wars *very* quickly
[22:11:52] <yuvipanda>	 okay am off. good progress on getting facebook and RIL to integrate as share options.
[22:12:05] <yuvipanda>	 should get some work done over the weekend as well for an RC on monday.
[22:12:15] <yuvipanda>	 Chennai Hackathon tomorrow, hope it goes great :)
[22:12:17] <yuvipanda>	 gnite everyone!
[22:16:07] <preilly>	 yuvipanda: gnite
[22:16:16] * preilly  was just a little too slow

[23:01:13] <awjr>	 20% time code review is melting my brain
[23:01:47] <preilly>	 awjr: sad so sad
[23:01:56] <awjr>	 i think it is cruel and unusual punishment to ask someone to do code review for 8 hours straight
[23:02:27] <preilly>	 awjr: yes, yes — it is
[23:06:12] <MaxSem>	 awjr, that's why I try to review a bit every day, not on one dedicated day
[23:06:50] <awjr>	 MaxSem: makes sense
[23:07:14] <awjr>	 way more sense
[23:13:36] <MaxSem>	 mhm, my rewrite looks complete, but i'm too sleepy to commit
[23:19:16] <preilly>	 MaxSem: go to sleep
[23:19:36] * preilly  notes that it's 3:19am Saturday (MSK) - Time in Moscow, Russia

[23:45:49] <awjr>	 just.. can't… review.. anymore.. code.
[23:45:51] * awjr  steps out for a drink