[10:00:18] MaxSem: https://github.com/praekelt/vumi-wikipedia/pull/4 [10:00:59] MaxSem: That's a PR for the setup.py stuff that will make installing vumi-wikipedia easier, and a README that explains it. [10:01:50] MaxSem: I'll probably get a colleague to review it later today or sometime tomorrow, but feel free to comment on the ticket (or in here) if you have anything to add. [10:02:36] jerith, whee [10:03:11] thanks, I'll possibly hav3e time toda to try it [10:04:24] I'm working on switching it to the extracts API [10:05:31] cya [10:09:35] \o/ [15:17:50] tomaszf: What % of traffic is handled by the mobile site, btw? [15:18:02] (Or indeed if anyone else who knows is around :) ) [16:15:02] Jarry1250: that's probably not an answerable question as there are multiple ways to pull content from WMF. [19:26:07] YuviPanda: with regard to the unicode URL / percent encoding error, perhaps short URLs would be the way to go? [19:26:22] Jarry1250 indeed once we have an official short url service? [19:26:27] iirc twitter autoshorts them [19:27:18] Yeah, though even in emails it's annoying to have 200-or-whatever links [19:27:29] I think Brion was involved with http://ur1.ca/ when he was at Statusnet? [19:27:49] well hello [19:28:15] Jarry1250 i also wrote Extension:ShortUrl, which would be deployed atleast in a few wikis soon(ish) [19:28:16] not intimately involved with it; it was one of our utilities but i never maintained it myself [19:28:42] Ah, cool. [19:28:58] Yuvi: How does that work exactly? Will it deunicodify them? [19:29:16] Jarry1250 you'll essentially get base36'd [19:29:28] Jarry1250 so you get ta.wikipedia.org/r/fa23 [19:29:38] instead of ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/akshgkajshgouhsagoirhjoirehjtoehrotheothreoithreoitheroitjeroitjeoirjteoirjteijteritjerteter [19:29:49] this was built at request of my native wiki community (tamil) [19:29:59] Jarry1250 it isn't as short as ur1.ca or wi.ki [19:30:03] but it gets the job done [19:30:14] URL encoding is basically the worst thing ever for indic languages [19:30:25] the chars are mostly 3 bytes of UTF-8 each [19:30:29] YES! [19:30:31] it sucks majorly [19:30:32] and each byte of UTF-8 takes 3 characters to encode [19:30:34] so it's a 9x expansion [19:30:38] very…. not legible :) [19:30:39] if i copy paste one URL from the toolbar, my entire chat history explodes [19:30:42] so short urls are kinda nice [19:30:55] brion opinion on Extension:ShortUrl [19:30:55] ? [19:31:17] In the mean time, couldn't we use permalinks? [19:31:19] last time i looked over it i was reasonably happy with it, seemed to do the job [19:31:27] Jarry1250 ? [19:31:36] has it not gotten deployed yet? i can never keep track of these things :) [19:31:43] http://ta.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=5332 [19:31:57] Jarry1250 pageids are not constant [19:32:07] brion no, reedy asked me to wait until after 1.19 [19:32:09] and now git [19:32:11] should poke him soon [19:32:12] :D [19:32:13] k [19:32:16] excellent :D [19:32:23] No, but oldids are...? [19:32:43] And permalink is maybe what people expect anyway when they share [19:32:49] Jarry1250 they're not 'permanent' [19:33:09] Really? [19:33:10] i'd generally intend to share the always-up-to-date page, unless i'm showing a funny vandal edit ;) [19:33:43] I don't know, think maybe about going back to it 5 months later [19:33:55] Your Tweet or FB post or email or something [19:34:01] +1 on brion [19:34:57] brion: I'm sure it's more a "here, look at this" kind of thing [19:35:00] if my post is something like "omg saw a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_fat%E2%80%93tailed_scorpion in the desert" then it probably doesn't matter if it's up to date :) [19:35:05] Mind you, I've never used it very much. [19:35:28] * brion clicks 'random article' until other amusing things come up [19:35:33] sports! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_Women%27s_Handball_Super_League [19:35:57] random page is golden today. usually i get nothing but obscure towns. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_snakes_of_New_Jersey [19:36:06] I just can't think who would get annoyed if "Share" linked a constant version of the page...? [19:37:51] Oh, brion, two things I meant to mention, I tried to reply to your wikitech-l post about SVGs, but I'm not actively subscribed so I'm interested if it got through; and also I wondered if you could give my GSoC application a once over (it's about TranslateSvg, a prototype of which you were nice enough to have a look at for me back in January)? [19:38:59] Jarry1250: don't think it made it through no [19:39:14] re gsoc app: i'll have to catch up on those :D [19:39:32] woooo Jarry1250 from the signpost is doing GSoC [19:39:33] nice [19:39:41] Well, application in. [19:39:52] Actually I'm quite unlikely to be doing it because of my timetable [19:40:07] ah [19:40:10] Basically in the UK vacations are in a different place [19:40:15] woo Jarry1250 from signpost is applying to do GSoC! [19:40:15] ncie [19:40:17] better? [19:40:23] :P Yes [19:40:54] I mean, I've put in an application but obviously it's a bit of a negative if I have to take time out in the middle to sit important exams. [19:40:55] :P [19:41:45] :) [19:41:55] i had that when I did my GNOME GSoC [19:42:03] Jarry1250 I got 'sick' and was sadly unable to attend my exams :P [19:42:21] Yeah, if I can't attend I get rusticated. [19:42:30] i.e. I have to retake the whole year [19:42:32] ah [19:42:34] that system sucks [19:42:44] Well, I probably would have to. [19:43:06] Can't think they'd have any other options really. [19:55:22] yuvipanda: name/url of the extension, please? [19:55:38] Amgine Extension:ShortURL [19:55:46] Amgine http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ShortUrl [19:55:50] it's been 'okay'd' for deployment [19:56:38] I'm less concerned about that; more thinking how to deploy it on my farm. [20:49:08] brion: speaking of deployments... Math! [20:49:40] Reedy speaking of deployments… ShortURL! [20:49:55] Did we ever sort out the url scheme issues? [20:50:01] yes we did [20:50:03] r/ [20:50:08] not starting with DOCUMENT_ROOT [20:50:30] Hmms [20:53:17] Reedy: i think it's ready for initial deploy whenever