[00:01:06] YuviPanda: need any testing ? [00:01:10] tfinc: yes [00:01:16] pull the v3.1.2-iOS branch [00:01:21] the search delay fix is there [00:01:23] try that out [00:01:47] so preilly if i use //m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_3.0_Unported_License?useformat=mobile instead of //wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_3.0_Unported_License?useformat=mobile [00:01:49] tfinc: then try https://github.com/yuvipanda/WikipediaMobile/tree/v3.1.2-iOS-no-large-images on articles with large images. [00:01:49] np [00:02:16] k, pulling [00:02:53] YuviPanda: i'm planning on leaving the office @ 18:30 PST [00:02:56] so thats about 1.5 hrs [00:03:17] tfinc: IMO if the search performs okay we can do an RC [00:03:18] how goes that line up with getting RC1 ready? [00:03:41] only thing i'm trying is to figure out a way to have minified files [00:04:07] (which requires debug/production separation) or I could just do it as a hack. Currently doing the latter [00:04:24] philinje: http://mobilehtml5.org/ [00:04:30] jdlrobson: fun one for you too --^ [00:04:36] New patchset: Jdlrobson; "use more specific link for license info" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4600 [00:05:18] tfinc also fun - http://www.browserscope.org/ [00:05:41] New review: preilly; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4600 [00:05:43] Change merged: preilly; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4600 [00:05:50] thats a good one too [00:07:28] tfinc: thanks [00:07:35] jdlrobson: can you get that change on your vm or something and post a link to it on the bug so that Pete can test it [00:09:18] YuviPanda: whats your key press timeout ? [00:09:24] tfinc: 750ms [00:09:48] so, when there is a 750ms gap without any keypresses, network req will be made [00:11:05] YuviPanda: much better [00:11:12] tfinc: usable? [00:11:32] yes [00:11:51] did you make this switch for all versions or just iOS4.2 ? [00:12:12] tfinc: all [00:12:13] versions [00:12:19] i think it makes sense, i'll merge that into master too later [00:12:51] preilly: does this link work for you? [00:12:52] http://bit.ly/Icu8Ob [00:13:28] jdlrobson: yes [00:13:36] my android is being weird [00:14:06] jdlrobson: in what way? [00:14:42] it redirects to sportspyder.com [00:14:42] YuviPanda: given the small amount of screen real estate were going to have to dismiss the keyboard upon full screen search scrolling .. not a blocker for 3.1.2 but a necessary feature [00:14:48] on iOS [00:15:01] tfinc: file a bug? [00:15:06] anyway.. it works for me but i'll add that link [00:15:12] i can dismiss it on first touch on non-searchbar/non-keyboard [00:15:13] yes [00:15:55] tfinc: file a bug, will do that on [00:16:21] done [00:16:23] oh .. landscape view [00:17:18] tfinc: i'm unsure what to do on landscape view. [00:17:25] other than autohide [00:17:56] cut it in half [00:18:11] ? [00:18:18] reduce the size? Move them both to the top? [00:18:30] on the same line? [00:18:38] i'm still a fan of autohide, but that comes after this, I guess [00:19:12] reduce the size [00:19:56] tfinc: file a bug :) [00:19:57] our nav+search take up half the screen in landscape [00:20:04] i did .. trying to find it ;) [00:20:26] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35795 :D [00:20:56] but really dismissing the nav is going to be the really fix [00:22:12] also patrick any idea about https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31510 [00:22:15] preilly: ^ [00:23:43] jdlrobson: what do you mean idea? [00:24:06] well do you know what it means, and why it was removed and if it is still relevant? [00:24:09] jdlrobson: http://mobile-geo.wmflabs.org/w/index.php?title=Main_Page&useformat=mobile&mobileaction=beta … what happened to more/less on the top right ? [00:24:35] good question [00:24:40] some how they have disappeared! :) [00:24:44] find them! [00:24:51] we miss them [00:25:19] my local is fine.. [00:25:20] its funny … i really can't use the site in non beta mode anymore [00:25:30] must have new design :D [00:26:02] jdlrobson: 'wmgMFRemovableClasses' => array( [00:26:03] 'default' => array( 'table.metadata', [00:26:04] '.metadata mbox-small', [00:26:06] '.metadata plainlinks ambox ambox-content', [00:26:07] '.metadata plainlinks ambox ambox-move', [00:26:08] '.metadata plainlinks ambox ambox-style', ), [00:26:09] ), [00:26:17] ahhh of course tfinc [00:26:25] jdlrobson: in fenari:/home/wikipedia/common/wmf-config/InitialiseSettings.php [00:27:39] fixed [00:28:27] just opened a ticket about a caching issue with mf - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35842 [00:28:45] binasher: thanks! [00:28:53] preilly: i'm not sure what i'm looking at :( [00:29:02] might be because I'm entering sleepy mode [00:29:05] binasher: can I get that as a pretty graph? [00:29:25] jdlrobson: those are classes that are removed [00:29:36] jdlrobson: e.g., table.metadata... [00:29:37] * binasher prints out a pretty graph, gives preilly a paper cut [00:30:01] * preilly bleeds [00:30:21] ohno :( [00:30:44] * preilly — stops hemorrhaging [00:30:53] ah i see preilly - just seen the comment there [00:31:01] so this is addressed? [00:31:49] jdlrobson: I think so [00:32:42] well closing then [00:32:47] jdlrobson: okay, great [00:32:51] if it's not someone can tell me otherwise :) [00:33:18] * preilly — notes that it's 1:32am Tuesday (BST) - in Kent, UK [00:33:45] that's pretty early [00:34:01] by Panda standards [00:34:57] indeed [00:35:51] preilly: the Makefile in MF mentiones yuicompressor.jar. Is that included in the repo? [00:37:38] no it isn't. [00:37:39] not just me [00:37:41] nevermind [00:38:38] i read that as yuvicompressor.jar and got worried [00:40:25] YuviPanda: no [00:40:36] tfinc: compresses yuvi into jars? [00:40:39] tfinc: ha ha ha [00:40:43] ROFL [00:40:49] canned yuvi [00:40:53] if that happens, I'll update yuvi.in/where.html [00:40:56] a great travel treat [00:41:08] :D [00:41:19] on the plus side, no visas! [00:42:56] YuviPanda: you have worked from weirder places [00:43:37] weirdest is possibly in one of http://www.shatabdigaurav.com/images/share_auto.jpg [00:43:44] I was, however, sitting inside [00:44:23] i've actually jumped off a just-moving train laptop open in hand because i forgot my station has turned up [00:44:55] YuviPanda: the US must be so tame for you [00:45:30] tfinc: you can easily go rock climbing climb to the top *and then* write code. [00:45:35] opportunities for these are there everywhere :P [00:45:38] and then? [00:45:43] space [00:45:45] Do it on the way up [00:45:59] and then do it on the way down. [00:46:07] we don't get enough commits at 30,000 ft either [00:46:20] and then do it while belaying, though the other person might not like that [00:46:26] Make that a challenge for WM2012 [00:46:54] oooh, how about writing code while crossing a Road? [00:47:00] in India, possibly Mumbai [00:47:09] at around 4PM or 9AM [00:47:13] *that* would be something [00:47:14] I guess bonus points if you ever actually get to commit said code? [00:47:51] i'd like to see the fundraiser banner for that - Send me to space! an appeal from Yuvaraj Pandian [00:47:55] with emphasis on 'you' [00:48:11] i'd donate to that [00:48:18] one way trip to mars [00:48:20] Will our mobile app work in space? WE NEED TO FIND OUT! [00:48:22] especially if yuvi wears a space suit in the photo [00:48:26] 'the internet here is bad, but not as bad as back in chennai!' [00:48:35] wait [00:48:40] 'the wifi here is bad, but not as bad as SF office' [00:48:43] #FTFY [00:48:45] You can get to Mars and back many times in your lifetime [00:49:07] i have heard someone say desktop development is like earth, mobile is like mars [00:49:39] YuviPanda: though, doing OSX updates while travelling might be an issue [00:49:43] * tfinc keeps filing bugs [00:49:45] (to mars) [00:50:07] do i need to get special funding to send Yuvi to space? [00:50:08] Reedy: clearly, you need MS-DOS running to go to Mars [00:50:14] i can put in a line item of rthat [00:50:19] interstellar travel [00:50:28] i'm sure someone will fund it [00:50:38] kickstarter [00:50:46] but only if Max can guarantee our api will show articles near yuvi on mars [00:51:03] 'pledge 5000 rupees more and i'll scream obscenities at the editor of your choice from space!' [00:51:06] err [00:51:08] not rupees. [00:51:11] i meant dollars. [00:51:12] not as chea [00:51:12] haha [00:51:13] p [00:51:21] nope, you said rupees [00:51:23] You need a laser beam too... [00:51:32] Reedy: with the shark attached? [00:51:38] Preferably [00:51:50] YuviPanda: making your going rate 97.7796 USD [00:52:13] YuviPanda: 30min warning [00:52:17] Reedy: if sharks can survive in the air, we're in a lot of trouble. [00:52:18] YuviPanda: where are we at? [00:52:26] tfinc: sharks and space. [00:52:30] going back to yuicompresser now [00:52:41] tfinc: i think once we try that out and see if it has any effects, we can cut an RC [00:52:45] k [00:53:06] hmm, I don't think I can do a proper 'split' in time [00:53:09] * YuviPanda starts writing hack [00:55:56] YuviPanda: as we fix everything else .. https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35843 is biting us badly [00:56:00] especially since its blocking [00:56:14] jdlrobson: ^ [00:56:24] jdlrobson: anything we can do to speed that up, other than the API? [00:56:58] will look [00:57:35] regexs can't be good [00:57:54] oh yes, that's there too [00:58:01] jdlrobson: doesn't DOM parsing/loading block? [00:59:29] this is going to be one of those annoying onces I can't replicate in my VM easily :/ [01:02:32] * YuviPanda twiddles thumbs as yuicompressor does its thing [01:05:31] tfinc: https://github.com/yuvipanda/WikipediaMobile/tree/v3.1.2-iOS-minify-hack [01:05:52] tfinc: pull, go to commandline, execute assets/compress.bash do not look at git diff, then build [01:07:22] pulling [01:07:48] YuviPanda: do you want me to clones that fork ? [01:07:50] clone* [01:07:53] tfinc: ? [01:07:58] you have me as a remote, right? [01:08:03] no [01:08:19] but i can add it [01:08:23] one sec [01:08:24] sur [01:08:24] e [01:12:27] YuviPanda: which branch ? [01:12:32] v3.1.2-iOS-minify-hack ? [01:12:34] yes [01:12:59] i'm missing the yuvi compressor :( [01:13:14] Unable to access jarfile yuicompressor.jar [01:13:17] too soon [01:14:07] tfinc: right. stupid code. [01:14:11] tfinc: cd to assets and then run it [01:14:27] 'go to your assets, you'll find the yuvicompressor' [01:14:27] its compressing now [01:14:28] yeah [01:14:35] * tfinc waits [01:14:54] org.mozilla.javascript.EvaluatorException: Compilation produced 3 syntax errors. [01:15:08] yeah, ignore that for now. i'm looking into it [01:15:13] the app still works despite [01:15:22] hmm [01:15:39] * tfinc goes to build the app [01:16:05] i'm not sure about bug https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35843 [01:16:37] wrapping the success of loadPage in a timeout might reduce any blocking - but very hard to explore this with a vm that doesn't replicate live environment [01:17:00] i've tried timing the renderHtml function but there doesn't seem much consistency in results [01:17:02] jdlrobson: isn't DOM parsing 'blocking'? [01:17:17] i believe so [01:17:27] YuviPanda: i should be testing app load time right .. time to first article load ? [01:17:31] tfinc: yes [01:18:32] YuviPanda: not enough of a speed up to make it worth it [01:18:44] :( [01:18:49] it still takes about 5 seconds to get past the spinner [01:18:55] whats is happening then ? [01:19:15] tfinc: does it reduce time after the 'spinner'? [01:21:07] if it does then i can't see it [01:21:30] hmm, clean and build once again just to be sure? [01:21:35] sure [01:22:08] unless we were doing something extraordinarily stupid yuicompress shouldn't give us that much a speedup, but it was worth a shot [01:22:43] no perceivable speed up [01:22:48] ok [01:22:52] sigh [01:23:01] tfinc: we won't be getting any until the swich to require.js [01:23:04] tfinc: cut an RC? [01:24:02] is require.js the api switch ? [01:24:42] tfinc: API switch will reduce per-page load [01:25:02] tfinc: require.js lets you load js as and when you need them only. Reduces memory footprint + startup time [01:25:12] YuviPanda: cut an rc from v3.1.2-iOS ? [01:25:16] initially not scheduled for 1.2, but i guess we'll have to sit and talk about that after the dust on this clears [01:25:22] yes. we will [01:25:30] tfinc: wait, let me update the moniker in about [01:25:35] k [01:26:06] tfinc: pushing. [01:26:14] [WikipediaMobile] yuvipanda pushed 1 new commit to v3.1.2-iOS: http://git.io/U1K9MQ [01:26:14] [WikipediaMobile/v3.1.2-iOS] Update Version number - YuviPanda [01:26:19] tfinc: ^ [01:26:27] Project WikipediaMobile - Nightly builds build #316: SUCCESS in 6.9 sec: https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/WikipediaMobile%20-%20Nightly%20builds/316/ [01:26:27] yuvipanda: Update Version number [01:26:42] tfinc: can you poke brion for some iPad testing [01:27:30] YuviPanda: he's not in the office [01:27:33] was working from home [01:27:42] ok [01:31:47] * tfinc has to clean up his stashes before he can compile RC1 [01:33:43] * jdlrobson is struggling to stay awake - tfinc YuviPanda how much longer do you need me for? [01:34:02] jdlrobson: i guess you should crash? unless tfinc has something else... [01:34:19] jdlrobson: go to bed [01:34:45] drop me a mail with anything you want me to look into tomorrow ... preferably ones i might be able to replicate :) [01:37:51] tfinc: how long a testing cycle should we be looking at? [01:40:58] hmm [01:41:05] pretty short [01:41:11] this is an emergency bugfix [01:41:12] 24hrs [01:44:14] screw trying to make git behave .. i'm just re-cloning [01:45:02] tfinc: git reset —hard origin/master [01:45:06] why reclone? [01:45:23] i couldn't get the git index to a happy state [01:45:30] it kept showing me modified file [01:45:31] s [01:45:34] and i got tired of it [01:45:36] heh [01:45:53] git branch -b gitisannoying origin/master [01:45:56] err [01:46:05] s/git branch/git checkout/ [01:46:16] your current branch may have been totally screwed [01:46:37] tfinc: git reset --hard not working? [01:46:55] * YuviPanda wonders how tfinc got git there [01:50:06] meh [01:50:13] it was easier to just clone [01:51:05] * tfinc goes to create the ipa [01:51:41] * tfinc waits on app validation [01:51:44] no issues found [01:53:51] YuviPanda: http://dumps.wikimedia.org/iOS/Wikipedia-3.1.2-RC1.ipa [01:53:54] give it a spin [01:54:09] Ryan_Lane: i should be good to go in about 5 [01:54:15] ok [01:55:20] tfinc: ok [01:55:28] tfinc: make sure you have it on your devices too [01:55:36] i'll poke the people who tested it last time and see if they would be able to help [01:55:38] YuviPanda: i'm going to try it on the iPad [01:55:51] and on the other two IPhones as well, I hope :) [01:58:51] YuviPanda: will do post climbing tonight [01:58:56] cool [01:58:58] enjoy climbing [02:00:09] YuviPanda: crash on page save iPad2 [02:00:21] iOS version? [02:00:24] 5.1 [02:02:03] my screen is too small for me to reach the top part of the iPad sim [02:02:04] ... [02:02:25] nevermind [02:02:51] tfinc: again, works on the simulator [02:02:52] gah [02:03:13] had to remove the app [02:03:19] now it works fine [02:03:33] were ok [02:03:54] YuviPanda: need anything from me ? [02:03:57] nope [02:04:00] i'll back on in a couple of hours [02:04:02] tfinc: when will you be back after climbing? [02:04:02] k [02:04:05] hmm [02:04:10] 11PM PST [02:04:12] i'm reasonably sleepy not sure if i'll be up or not. [02:04:19] so about three hours [02:04:26] ok [02:04:34] do poke / test at it even if i'm not around, and email me if you need me [02:04:49] will do [02:04:56] are you mailing this to mobile-l ? [02:05:02] yeah [02:05:06] k [02:05:10] writing it out now [02:06:24] k [07:58:15] New review: MaxSem; "Where's FIXME in Gerrit? :P First, this change leads people browsing the safe site to bare HTTP, sec..." [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4600 [09:13:02] New patchset: MaxSem; "Follow-up change 4587: redirect from old URLs to new special page." [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4605 [10:51:59] New patchset: MaxSem; "Switched enabling/disabling images to Special:MobileOptions" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4610 [11:02:13] jdlrobson, I can't find the "leave feedback" link in current design. any ideas where it is? :P [11:02:26] in the beta or norm? [11:02:59] oh, stupid /me [11:03:04] :) [11:03:11] [WikipediaMobile] reedy pushed 2 new commits to master: http://git.io/GYLNdw [11:03:11] [WikipediaMobile/master] Syntax error in attribution-osm message - Minh Nguyễn [11:03:11] [WikipediaMobile/master] Merge pull request #204 from 1ec5/patch-1 - Sam Reed [11:03:13] ON / OFF switch [11:03:25] Project WikipediaMobile - Nightly builds build #317: SUCCESS in 7.1 sec: https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/WikipediaMobile%20-%20Nightly%20builds/317/ [11:03:25] mxn: Syntax error in attribution-osm message [14:31:42] New patchset: Jdlrobson; "remove default styling in firefox mobile (fennec)" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4633 [14:39:23] New review: Jdlrobson; "On my mobile it seems visiting http://wikipedia.org or https://wikipedia.org redirects me to http://..." [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4600 [14:53:05] New patchset: MaxSem; "Move feedback functionality to Special:MobileFeedback." [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4636 [15:52:53] New patchset: Jdlrobson; "temporarily override common.css rule" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4642 [16:36:18] New patchset: Jdlrobson; "changes to references for consumption by mobile app" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/4646 [16:42:14] Project WiktionaryMobile - Nightly builds build #56: SUCCESS in 7.1 sec: https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/WiktionaryMobile%20-%20Nightly%20builds/56/ [16:42:15] hy.cheng: fixed Forwards button being permanently disabled [16:45:57] Project WiktionaryMobile - Nightly builds build #57: SUCCESS in 7.1 sec: https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/WiktionaryMobile%20-%20Nightly%20builds/57/ [16:45:57] pfhayes: fixed Forwards button being permanently disabled [17:06:51] * YuviPanda pokes maplebed [17:07:12] * maplebed bites off YuviPanda's finger [17:07:25] which one? [17:07:27] NOMS [17:08:03] (you never know what might happen when you poke me. Sometimes it tickles, and sometimes I bite off your finger.) [17:08:11] maplebed: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mobile-l/2012-April/005486.html [17:08:27] maplebed: i like people biting off fingers more :P I'm sure I can grow them back [17:08:50] maplebed: please do test. We're getting hammered in the App store, and would like to get this update out asap [17:09:11] I'm sorry, I don't have time to test this week. [17:09:15] ouch [17:09:19] ok [17:09:27] guess it's time to hire someone to do qa. [17:09:30] maplebed: i'll poke you for our next releases then. [17:09:35] maplebed: we're on it. [17:09:50] maplebed: should hopefully have someone in a few weeks (or less (or more)) [17:12:05] maplebed: thanks anyway :) [17:24:45] greetings all [17:24:50] YuviPanda: hows RC1 looking ? [17:25:06] Reedy: how did the new android emu work out? [17:26:09] tfinc: reasonably bad, have been poking prior testers individually, haven't gotten anyone to bite. Just got on, so continuing poking [17:26:24] emailing Axel now [17:26:35] bad meaning its not working well or bad because no one has responded ? [17:27:44] bad because nobody's responded. [17:27:50] (yet) [17:28:08] lifeeth: poke. Think you'll be able to test out the iOS app a bit today? [17:28:12] YuviPanda: who do we know that has 4.2/4.3 ? [17:28:29] we should add iOS versions to the spreadsheet [17:28:33] Axel, kaldari [17:28:36] and/or device [17:28:38] hmm, yes. [17:28:42] YuviPanda : the iOS devices are in Delhi [17:28:42] jarry has a 4.x device as well [17:28:44] and I am in BLR [17:28:45] :| [17:28:47] lifeeth: :( [17:29:05] tfinc: emailed axel, kaldari not on IRC, Jarry missing too. I'm going to leave a talk page message for Jarry now [17:29:31] YuviPanda: i'll try and find kaldari [17:29:36] cool [17:29:38] YuviPanda: what about james ? [17:29:43] what iOS ver. does he have? [17:30:26] tfinc: not sure, he didn't respond last time either [17:31:19] tfinc: From what I now see, you have a 4.2 device, philinje has a 4.3 device, jarry has a 5.0 device and I have a 5.1 device [17:32:05] tfinc: i'm sending kaldari an email [17:34:12] YuviPanda: mail staff and see who bites [17:34:18] ok [17:35:02] awjr, how was your vacation? [17:35:14] MaxSem: awesome :) [17:35:33] but now trying to wade through a bazillion emails [17:36:12] awjr, meanwhile I've solved the problem of MF borking forms: now special pages can order it to omit some transformations [17:36:39] MaxSem that's awesome - i had figured something similar out in the contact-us-redesign branch [17:36:46] but you did this in master? [17:37:18] no [17:39:45] awjr: welcome back! [17:39:55] tfinc: thanks :) [17:40:56] awjr, I lied - first commit of this saga is already in master [17:41:26] so you just need to $wgExtMobileFrontend->setContentTransformations( false ); [17:42:11] YuviPanda: does brion have a device that would help in testing ? [17:42:46] tfinc: he'd be able to help us test with the iPad, but I'm not sure if he has an older device [17:42:49] you guys on ios 4.x stuff still? fraid not [17:43:03] brion: we cut RC1 and need 4.x testers [17:43:15] brion: quick .. downgrade your portable OS! [17:43:25] lemme see what i can do :) [17:44:03] kaldari: ! [17:44:11] kaldari: thanks for joining [17:44:14] YuviPanda: --^ [17:44:23] howdy folks [17:44:27]