[00:01:05] awjr: it's 4.6G now [00:01:22] i will never use mysqldump again. [00:23:47] awjr: I'm loading the new database right now [00:50:24] preilly: thanks for taking care of that for me - you are loading it into enwiki_awjr? [01:00:02] when's the next release coming out? [14:38:42] \o/ visa! [14:38:54] US? [14:38:57] yup :) [14:39:05] just endured 3 hours of queuing for it [14:39:37] am I the only one not interested in moving? :D [14:39:45] yup :) [14:40:50] jdlrobson, in February it was said "The current CSS setup is a huge mess. Lots of duplicate rules in device specific files." as I can see, this is not the case anymore - do you agree? [14:42:05] agreed [14:42:09] where do you see this statement? [14:42:24] on MF talk page [14:43:14] I'm currently performing an analysis of what have we done to address this critique [14:43:16] http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/MobileFrontend-core [14:43:45] ...or not to address but just fix it because it makes sense:P [14:54:50] jdlrobson:hello! [14:55:35] jdlrobson: http://ta.m.wiktionary.org/ check the image in wotd template, there is a bug waiting for you.. [14:56:16] hey srikanthlogic [14:56:48] oohh [14:56:52] nasty [14:57:06] jdlrobson: yesterday the entire template looked shrunk [14:57:25] I thought to check with you if you are working on some changes [14:58:51] srikanthlogic: it seems to have the wrong width and height on it.. [14:59:30] it looks like it's a problem with thumbinner [14:59:34] inline style fun again :) [14:59:58] :) [15:00:32] mm.. have you seen that anywhere else? [15:23:09] srikanthlogic: > https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36765 [15:24:05] jdlrobson: thanks! I haven't seen elsewhere [15:24:21] enwikt wotd doesn't have pic :) [15:27:58] ? [15:29:24] English wiktionary doesn't use pic inline in their template :) [15:30:34] \me added MF saved search on bugzilla :) [15:30:50] I'm not sure I understand... there's another image bug? [15:31:12] jdlrobson: nope, not that I know of [15:31:17] okk cool :) [16:02:46] New patchset: Jdlrobson; "don't make width auto for images (bug 36765)" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7287 [16:02:47] New patchset: Jdlrobson; "don't force tables to be block (bug 36678)" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7288 [16:02:47] New patchset: Jdlrobson; "force correct single column rendering of references (bug 34878)" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7289 [16:04:25] someone likes to shoot in bursts? :) [16:05:38] yup [16:05:42] bloody inline styles [16:24:59] wow. I'd never seen ta.m.wiktionary.org. Very cool, actually. [16:34:40] hi philinje [16:34:50] hi [16:42:18] I sent you a PM philinje [16:51:24] hang out is up https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/bb228c71ccffc914ef315c2c8c6b13c690ab3c25?authuser=1&hl=en# [16:55:12] New review: preilly; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7287 [16:55:14] Change merged: preilly; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7287 [16:55:51] New review: preilly; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7288 [16:55:53] Change merged: preilly; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7288 [16:56:39] New review: preilly; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7289 [16:56:41] Change merged: preilly; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7289 [16:57:58] * tfinc_meetings wondres where arthur is [16:58:18] just saw his mail [16:59:37] let me get preilly and then we can get started [17:01:29] i muted my speakers, not my mic :p [17:05:39] * BlackRectangle likes video standups [17:08:39] tfinc_meetings: tfinc I see you've finally created a clone of yourself for attending meetings [17:21:45] YuviPanda: if only :D [17:23:58] hmm, I wonder if clones like that would work via message passing or shared memory [17:25:36] YuviPanda: i'm pretty sure i'd corrupt my stack quickly [17:25:49] *if* using shared memory [17:25:56] message passing would isolate you two [17:26:06] but then i'd just drop messages eventually [17:26:07] and provided well tested methods to pass specific information around [17:26:13] hehe 'well tested' hehe [17:26:44] tfinc: true. On the other hand you also will have a legit reason to get out of meetings. "message queue full" [17:26:56] awjr: will you be able to make our 11 ? [17:27:12] tfinc yes [17:27:20] awjr: are you in place where audio and video will work ? [17:27:39] tfinc: definitely audio, hopefully video too, im not sure about connection speeds eyt [17:27:40] *yet [17:27:55] awjr: lets give it a quick test [17:28:00] Reedy: for some reason, I expected a much older, bearded fellow with a scowl on his face. Not sure why [17:31:33] Reedy: can you dress as a " much older, bearded fellow with a scowl on his face " for halloween and send us pictures ? [17:33:20] you mean dress like richard stallman? [17:34:02] YuviPanda: WMDE were expecting a beard also [17:34:21] Reedy: then we have consensus. You need to grow one. [17:35:47] :D [17:50:51] hmm, apparently I was in an advertisement my college issues [17:53:30] MaxSem: awjr: hangout for our mobile->core discussion https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/83c577d3e8f1363a88657eae3766a407ca6a9424?authuser=1&hl=en# [17:55:44] tfinc: i shall join in and listen in on mute. No scary looks, I promise. [17:57:35] goddamn, now I want an mp3 of the mario sound track [17:58:19] YuviPanda: lolz [17:58:43] hmm, I actually have a version but it doesn't seem to be the same as the one I played. [18:00:44] huh my isight is not turning on for some reason [18:01:00] awjr: then just join with audio [18:01:02] tfinc: shall i reboot or would you rather look at a black square? [18:01:02] k [18:01:32] awjr: black rectangle, you mean :) [18:01:41] a square is a rectangle [18:01:50] but good point [18:02:25] since a rectangle is not necessarily a square [18:02:38] awjr: inded [18:02:40] *indeed [18:04:08] MaxSem: http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/MobileToCore [18:05:14] preilly, tfinc, MaxSem: i started capturing actual changes relating to the migration here: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mobile_support_in_MediaWiki_core/status [18:06:54] MaxSem: are you having a hard time hearing us ? [18:07:01] yes [18:15:05] https://graphite.wikimedia.org/render?width=500&from=-1weeks&until=now&height=380&target=ApiQueryExtracts.execute.tavg&uniq=0.7591906955108432&title=ApiQueryExtracts.execute.tavg [18:16:28] https://graphite.wikimedia.org/render?width=500&from=-1weeks&until=now&height=380&target=ApiQueryExtracts.execute.count&uniq=0.42842060623434564&title=ApiQueryExtracts.execute.count [18:42:07] awjr: MaxSem preilly I updated http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mobile_support_in_MediaWiki_core#Timeline ... edit if i got anything wrong [18:45:10] YuviPanda: whats the internal version for 1.1 .. is it 3 or 4 ? [18:45:55] tfinc: Android? I think it was close to double digits [18:45:56] let me check [18:46:18] actually .. i think its 10 [18:46:36] tfinc: 10 [18:46:37] yeah [18:46:43] tfinc: we're updating it every beta. [18:46:50] tfinc: 1.2beta2 is 12 [18:49:06] yeah thats fine. i was responding to jons mail [18:52:21] brion: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mobile_support_in_MediaWiki_core#Timeline page updated with our new todos [19:00:01] Thehelpfulone: know anyone who can edit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Track_listing to fix https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36076 [19:00:04] ? [19:01:10] Thehelpfulone: I tried yesterday and it didn't fix it [19:01:51] Thehelpfulone: see http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Track_listing&diff=prev&oldid=491919718 [19:03:07] Oh, I mean YuviPanda [19:03:22] YuviPanda: see above [19:04:41] * YuviPanda looks [19:05:13] preilly: can you update https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36076? [19:05:38] YuviPanda: I updated https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36740 [19:06:17] hmm, ok [19:06:39] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36076 updated now too [19:06:53] YuviPanda: I can try whatever you want on that template [19:07:37] YuviPanda: does what I did in that diff make sense? [19:09:01] preilly: doing some chrome inspectoring. gimme a bit [19:09:19] YuviPanda: okay, will do [19:09:57] * preilly adds inspectoring to my vernacular reference file [19:10:49] only when preceeded by 'chrome' [19:10:51] or 'chromium' [19:10:53] or 'webkit' [19:23:56] Thehelpfulone: hi, are you online? tried replying to your pm [19:47:51] hey preilly, are you familiar with modernizr.js? [20:02:30] awjr_lunch: hey, when you get a chance could you re-send the config page for Contacts? [20:03:52] preilly, can we make MF use the .m. domains for real? [20:07:47] philinje: hey, sorry I am now [20:08:42] YuviPanda: did you still need to find someone to edit that emplate? [20:08:44] template* [20:10:46] Thehelpfulone: nope, I'm trying to figure out what exactly to change. [20:12:19] ok [20:16:27] YuviPanda: 30 downloads of the beta app ... nice! [20:21:57] YuviPanda, I'm a sysop on en:, too (and have a staff account to edit protected stuff elsewhere) [20:30:34] YuviPanda: check out the country distribution of the app [20:30:40] nice split to kick things off [20:31:20] tfinc: what are the other avenues we have of publicising this? [20:31:28] tfinc: wikitech-l, blog post, signpost. [20:31:30] anything else? [20:31:34] should probably do that in a few days [20:31:56] hmm [20:32:22] #1 wikitech, #2 blog post , #3 signpost [20:32:27] you have the right order [20:32:34] i think thats fine for now [20:32:52] ok [20:44:51] Thehelpfulone: still can't send anything [20:46:13] really? [20:46:16] how about now? [20:46:33] I was marked as /away but that shouldn't stop you from actually sending a message [20:49:42] awjr: hi, can you send the config screen for Contact? [20:50:24] philinje: you mean the link handling configuration for the feedback page? [20:57:18] yes, only if easy [21:10:36] Thehelpfulone: i'm unable to repro https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36396 [21:10:43] Thehelpfulone: were you able to repro that in the latest beta? [21:16:29] tfinc im mad at you for sharing that wolfenstein link. [21:17:11] i played it for a while last night and now i can't think about anything else. [21:18:01] haha [21:18:10] i fully accept the blame there [21:18:27] and regret none of it [21:19:35] hahaha [21:19:58] im surprised i was able to remember the location of a lot of the secret rooms [21:20:43] though it was probably the first time i played without cheats in like… ever [21:24:35] hmm, down to one unsolved issue for 1.2 [21:24:36] sweet [21:27:12] hey preilly, are you familiar with modernizr.js? [21:32:15] YuviPanda: woot [21:35:06] tfinc_meetings: I just found one more. So we've two. [21:42:09] sounds like were reading for an RC then [21:42:14] ready* [21:42:58] tfinc_meetings: should be tuesday or so. [21:43:18] tfinc_meetings: also, emailing people seems to have little effect now to get them to test iOS :( [21:43:28] axel and Thehelpfulone are the only people who've actually tested iOS so far [21:43:37] thankfully they're on a different OS each. [21:43:51] YuviPanda, we're going to use UserTesting.com too for some tests [21:44:13] it can be done for betas if you need it, work in progress page at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mobile_design/Usertesting [21:44:51] Hmm, they do seem to have one for iOS users [21:45:41] yes, have a look at the test I proposed YuviPanda https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mobile_design/Usertesting#Wikipedia_App_Test_1 [21:46:42] yeah, reading through it now [21:47:10] Thehelpfulone: that's essentially user testing, which is testing usability. QUite important and something that is awesome :D [21:47:46] Thehelpfulone: but for this release, I'm hoping to find beta testers who can poke out bugs in our unreleased apps. Not sure if user testing that style would help? [21:48:02] yeah this is probably more for a release on an app store [21:48:16] you can write one for beta testing Yuvi [21:48:18] yeah [21:49:36] Thehelpfulone: shall do so in a bit :) [21:49:43] great :) [21:52:43] people are noticing the footer https://twitter.com/#!/ryanvarick/status/201065016055705603 :D [21:53:00] YuviPanda: would you prefer that test to be done after the next public release? [21:54:19] Thehelpfulone: User testing, yes, I think so [21:54:45] ok, that one can be on hold then :) [22:00:16] woo, fixed one of them! [22:03:26] hmmm, gnite everyone :) [22:03:34] have a nice weekend! [22:04:03] great work, Yuvi, have a good one! [22:41:10] New patchset: L10n-bot; "Localisation updates from http://translatewiki.net." [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7334 [23:00:47] New review: preilly; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7334 [23:00:49] Change merged: preilly; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7334 [23:44:58] philinje: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Akshay.agarwal [23:49:10] philinje: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SignupAPI