[04:28:56] * jerith is in San Francisco! \o/ [06:30:52] * devgeeks is jealous [16:54:31] hang out is up https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/90ef0efbcfd72ed189233b590bdaec98b568f766?authuser=1&hl=en# [17:07:39] speaking of deployments, should I get RT access? [17:10:00] i like how the gizmodo article about kodak's nuclear reactor (?!?!) refers to the weapons-grade uranium as 'atomic candy' [17:10:48] awjr: ha ha [17:12:14] This is my favorite line about it: Kodak didn't necessarily mean to keep the reactor a secret, the newspaper reported. Rather, it was just never truly public knowledge. [17:12:29] i'm responding to a couple of users on twitter who reported android issues over the weekend [17:12:47] hahaha [17:12:48] are there any known issues with android that will be adressed in todays deployment ? [17:12:52] another priceless line: [17:12:52] According to the company, no employees were ever in contact with the reactor. Apparently, it was operated by atomic fairies and unicorns. [17:14:45] tfinc yes [17:15:07] tfinc: resolutions to https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36675 and https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36673 [17:15:52] awjr: nice. i'm eager to hear back from the people who tweeted so that we can get some detail [17:16:12] awjr: http://i.imgur.com/QGlPj.gif [17:17:08] preilly: lol [17:17:21] preilly: is #mp-dyk (and other mp-) supposed to display in MF? [17:17:48] tfinc: word. those are the only android-specific bug fixes that i can see form the changelogs [17:18:46] awjr: k, if i hear back from the twitter sphere then i'll file bugs [17:20:38] brion: https://github.com/wikimedia/WLMMobile [17:22:43] hey jdlrobson [17:23:01] hey yuvipanda [17:23:24] jdlrobson: when do you think you'll have time to look at some pull reqs? One of them has a patch to MF [17:24:12] are they big ones? [17:24:13] MaxSem: can you respond to @edent for https://twitter.com/#!/edent/status/201939281038680064 [17:25:07] jdlrobson: nope, a small one that won't actually affect anything in MF [17:25:21] jdlrobson: just an 'event' of sort fired when a referenace reveal is shown [17:25:24] tfinc, mobile-geo looks dead [17:25:36] oohh yeh I saw that.. I'll try looking at that [17:25:41] awjr & preilly, who broke it? :P [17:26:14] jdlrobson: it's a very 'crude' event, but does what is needed. If you've a better idea of how we should be doing events in our own code, feel free to point me to them [17:26:31] yeh I didn't like the look of it when I glanced at it ;-) [17:26:31] hmm [17:28:27] that is weird - preilly could that be related to the db clone you did for me the other day? [17:29:03] bagels have stolen our preilly [17:29:23] if there's one thing that bums me out about being remote is not getting my monday morning bagels/breakfast burritos/etc [17:29:34] s/is/it's [17:30:56] awjr, do you live in the middle of a desert? [17:31:02] MaxSem: i do. [17:31:21] jdlrobson: leave comments on the pull req if I'm not around. I was looking for other 'events' in MF so I could 'steal' from them, didn't find any. [17:31:34] sure will do [17:32:01] jdlrobson: thanks :) [17:32:16] jdlrobson: howdy, when is a good time to talk? [17:33:34] New patchset: Jdlrobson; "make tables with width 100% border-box box model" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7601 [17:33:34] New patchset: Jdlrobson; "correct footer padding" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7602 [17:33:35] New patchset: Jdlrobson; "keep footer open until page has finished loading" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7603 [17:33:48] MaxSem: http://g.co/maps/sbn5p [17:33:55] that is where i live [17:35:11] "in the middle of a half-million village in the desert" !== "in the middle of a desert" :P [17:35:22] MaxSem: i like to think big picture :p [17:35:40] MaxSem it is forecasted to be 38C today [17:35:44] then I live in the woods [17:35:50] bad for you [17:35:57] it is currently 34 [17:35:59] bah [17:36:00] it's nothing [17:36:15] later in the summer it'll get up to 48C or so [17:36:51] and if it's a heatwave? [17:39:38] awjr: sweet! I now wish 4 hours of power blackout to you every day :D [17:40:07] MaxSem: there is a 'heatwave' here from April until October [17:40:14] yuvipanda gee thanks :) [17:46:22] MaxSem: are you OK to start going over deployment stuff at 1am MSK? [17:46:44] ok [17:47:16] MaxSem cool - be sure to read through http://wikitech.wikimedia.org/view/How_to_deploy_code before hand [17:47:35] MaxSem: also, for future deployment training + you doing your own deployments, we can probably figure out a time that will suck a lot less for you [17:47:49] I've read it before, but it has been rewritten since then:) re-reading [17:50:08] argh, we're outputting all Unicode as HTML entities [18:04:40] awjr: whats a good time to chat about the sibling project change over ... especially if your going to need preillys help. post deployment today? [18:04:51] tfinc that would be great [18:05:56] k [18:09:36] New review: preilly; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7601 [18:09:37] Change merged: preilly; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7601 [18:10:05] New review: preilly; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7602 [18:10:07] Change merged: preilly; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7602 [18:10:46] New patchset: preilly; "Update minified javascript" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7609 [18:11:12] New review: preilly; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7603 [18:11:14] Change merged: preilly; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7603 [18:11:33] New review: preilly; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7609 [18:11:35] Change merged: preilly; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7609 [18:16:01] MaxSem: mobile-geo should be working now [18:16:39] preilly: mobile-geo was not working a bit ago - it was throwing a MySQL error. i looked in the logs and saw: [18:17:06] /usr/sbin/mysqld: Can't create/write to file '/mnt/ibfs7BR8' (Errcode: 13) [18:17:06] 120514 18:13:28 InnoDB: Error: unable to create temporary file; errno: 13 [18:17:06] 120514 18:13:28 [ERROR] Plugin 'InnoDB' init function returned error. [18:17:06] 120514 18:13:28 [ERROR] Plugin 'InnoDB' registration as a STORAGE ENGINE failed. [18:18:17] i moved the the mysql tmp dir to /tmp [18:18:28] awjr: that is a permission denied error [18:18:37] preilly yes i know - /mnt was not writable by msyql user [18:18:52] so i moved the tmp dir to /tmp but not sure that was the correct solution [18:19:01] awjr: you could have just created a new directory in /mnt and allowed the user to access it [18:19:13] preilly i tried that first but i continued getting a similar error [18:19:45] awjr: do you mind if I try it again? [18:19:50] preilly go for it [18:21:56] did something change in /mnt permissions, or it's AppArmor? [18:22:19] the site is still a roast, btw [18:22:42] MaxSem: yeah, preilly is messing with it some more [18:25:07] MaxSem it might be apparmor, i forgot about that [18:25:56] awjr, when I moved the DB to /mnt, I updated the AppArmor config, but apparently something has changed again [18:26:45] MaxSem: yeah, /mnt is not currently in the apparmor profile [18:26:52] preilly ^ [18:27:25] does that config gets rewritten on package update? [18:29:09] awjr: it works [18:29:17] huzzah! [18:29:24] good lolz here https://twitter.com/#!/WTFMobileWeb [18:29:29] preilly what was it? [18:29:32] I fixed apparmor [18:29:35] yah [18:29:39] i always forget about apparmor [18:29:54] /mnt/mysql_tmp/ rw, [18:29:54] /mnt/mysql_tmp/* rw, [18:30:01] perfect [18:30:28] MaxSem preilly fixed it ^ [18:31:09] awjr: I also cloned the mysql database as well [18:31:33] preilly for w_awjr you mean? [18:32:04] cool [18:32:04] awjr: yeah, I didn't change your LocalSettings file [18:32:10] preilly cool thanks [18:32:12] i'll update it now [18:32:13] awjr: the export of mysql is in /mnt/mydumper-0.2.3/export-20120510-233543 [18:32:28] awjr: in case you want to blow it away again or something [18:32:33] cool [18:32:51] mydumper sounds like the name for a laxative product [18:33:15] awjr: it can be restored using myloader like: myloader -u root -p ******** -B enwiki_awjr -d export-20120510-233543 -t 8 -v 3 -C -q 1200 -o [18:33:28] righteous [18:34:36] awjr: so that's 8 threads with verbose logging set to informational with client compression and drop tables and 1,200 queries per thread based connection [18:35:15] preilly how long did it take for you to dump and then import? [18:35:23] awjr: it will be nice when Ryan_Lane gets around to offering something akin to RDS on labs [18:35:29] agreed [18:35:29] awjr: it took about 40 minutes [18:35:50] awjr: I used 12 threads for the dump [18:35:54] that's like a bazillion times faster than it would have been with mysqldump [18:35:57] awjr: and 8 for the import [18:36:25] preilly RDS = amazon's rds? [18:36:55] awjr: Amazon Relational Database Service (Amazon RDS) [18:36:59] yah [18:37:09] that will be sweet [18:37:24] iirc that was one of the original selling points of labs [18:37:32] i look forwards to that day [18:38:54] Ryan_Lane: have you tried Red Dwarf ? [18:39:36] tfinc, replied to that twit now that the wiki is up again [18:39:55] preilly i am intermittently getting (Can't contact the database server: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (111) (localhost)) [18:39:59] on w_awjr [18:40:20] preilly: it doesn't do what we want [18:40:31] it was originally a DaaS, but now it's a PaaS [18:40:38] MaxSem: thanks [18:40:38] it can deploy anything [18:40:50] awjr, the wiki looks pretty near death in general [18:40:58] I can deploy anything I want too, using nova and puppet, so why bother? [18:41:11] Ryan_Lane: lame [18:41:24] MaxSem: philinje: we ran out of GeoNames queries again :) [18:41:45] were hitting an average of 70k/day requests [18:42:18] funny enough geonames is still seriving us data even though we've gone over [18:42:25] i'm gone to see if their willing to white list us for now [18:42:46] awjr: hmm [18:43:36] awjr: the load average on that box is 6.60, [18:43:55] jeez [18:44:06] awjr: it's getting a ton of traffic [18:44:15] i think it's become a spam magnet [18:44:25] tfinc, can we see the graph? [18:44:27] we should probably lock down the wikis [18:45:24] haha: [18:45:24] mysql> use enwiki; select count(*) from user; [18:45:24] Reading table information for completion of table and column names [18:45:24] You can turn off this feature to get a quicker startup with -A [18:45:24] Database changed [18:45:25] +----------+ [18:45:25] | count(*) | [18:45:26] +----------+ [18:45:26] | 1238 | [18:45:27] +----------+ [18:45:27] 1 row in set (0.23 sec) [18:46:11] most of which have interesting user names like 'Very simple Diet Solutions Techniques Across The UK' or 'Unsecured loan czyhk08' [18:46:52] awjr, locked the fuck down [18:46:56] awjr: that load is down now [18:46:58] wow look at recent changes [18:46:59] http://mobile-geo.wmflabs.org/w/index.php/Special:RecentChanges [18:47:45] * MaxSem fires up cleanupSpam [18:48:04] hehehe [18:48:13] MaxSem: can you also do that on the w_awjr wiki? [18:48:53] should we install SpamBlacklist? [18:49:10] preilly, better - we're fishbowl now [18:49:30] probably worth using $wgSpamRegex [18:50:08] we could also add http auth to it [18:50:35] awjr, locked it, too [18:50:42] thanks MaxSem [18:50:45] MaxSem: sure .. let me send you the ones i have [18:51:15] MaxSem: Daily http://www.geonames.org/img/charts/ws-creditsld8163-NhBKEPcu6P86DGxC7SYivA.png [18:51:30] MaxSem: Monthly : http://www.geonames.org/img/charts/ws-credits8163-NhBKEPcu6P86DGxC7SYivA.png [18:51:39] MaxSem: Hourly: http://www.geonames.org/img/charts/ws-creditsH8163-NhBKEPcu6P86DGxC7SYivA.png [18:51:59] tfinc, cool thanks [18:52:59] hmm, after a huge omg maps usage after yet another release things seem to go down again [18:53:45] MaxSem: did you clean up mobile geo? [18:54:01] trying right now [18:54:32] MaxSem, awjr: is it worth just Password-Protecting it? [18:54:51] preilly, it's already 100% protected from spam [18:55:03] I've blocked all the registrations [18:55:08] ok .. mailed geonames ... lets see what they say [18:55:12] preilly with http auth? i dunno - i think we send links around to mobile-geo enough that it's probably not worth it [18:55:15] or, at least $wgGroupPermissions['*']['edit'] = false; [18:55:15] $wgShowIPinHeader = false; [18:55:24] preilly, already done [18:55:29] MaxSem: okay cool [18:55:37] MaxSem: we should get rid of the spam accounts too so they can't log in and eit [18:55:39] *edit [18:55:40] MaxSem: did you also $wgEmailConfirmToEdit = true;? [18:56:03] probably worth doing: $wgGroupPermissions['*']['createaccount'] = false; as well [18:56:14] to disallow creating accounts [18:59:46] already done [18:59:56] my cleanup script died with DB connection error: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (111) (localhost) [19:00:16] after doing some cleanup though [19:01:07] yeah, mysql is dead :/ [19:01:29] load shot up again and there a lot of apache threads [19:01:51] perhaps http auth is a good interim solution while we finish cleanup and lockdown [19:02:25] ouch http://www.blaze.io/mobile/result/?testid=120514_7K_1CE [19:02:49] tfinc: damn [19:03:03] :( [19:03:35] You might try confirmedit/asirra? [19:05:29] preilly, MaxSem: i'm setting up http auth at least until we get mobile-geo under control [19:06:11] we just need to block those bots that are already registered [19:06:22] though I don't see any further requests [19:06:25] preilly: awjr: one of the image assets took forever 40+sec to load in that test [19:06:34] I mean, success ful edits [19:06:38] subsequent tests took just shy of 10secs [19:06:46] tfinc: from bits? [19:07:05] tfinc: yes. the waterfall chart on blaze.io is broken so i can't easily read it [19:07:13] running another test now [19:07:19] tfinc: lame [19:07:19] tfinc, an image from article? images are known to be sometimes slow, it's not mobile-related [19:07:19] will look at it post lunch [19:07:28] MaxSem: yes, and we don't block on them [19:08:08] on a side note. great talks from the last mobilisim conference http://vimeo.com/mobilism/videos [19:08:19] i'm slowly making my way through them [19:08:48] http://www.blaze.io/mobile/loading/?testid=120514_A3_1CH is the next test that is still running [19:09:39] awjr: Syntax error on line 41 of /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default: [19:09:39] AuthType not allowed here [19:09:47] fixed [19:11:32] are there are any other valid registered users on the labs wiki besides awjrichards, jdlrobson, MaxSem? [19:13:12] preilly? [19:13:32] MaxSem: I don't think I've got an account [19:13:41] yeah, preilly is not a registered user [19:14:02] is it better to delete the user accounts or just change the password? [19:14:30] mmm, delete from user where user_name not in ('MaxSem', 'Awjrichards', 'Jdlrobson')? [19:14:50] yeah that's what i was thinking, but will that cause any issues? [19:15:02] awjr: I wouldn't do that [19:15:13] preilly what about just changing user passwords? [19:15:13] awjr: at least not yet [19:15:14] referential integrity, who needs it? [19:15:17] hahaha [19:23:24] awjr: can't you just set user_rights='' in the database? [19:25:11] Or set edit to only user group trusted, and just add yourselves. [19:25:42] preilly, user_rights is empty for mortals [19:26:08] i like Amgine's suggestion - probably easiest. [19:26:18] we're all already in sysop, admin and 'crat [19:26:21] New patchset: Jdlrobson; "add onClickReference option" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7617 [19:26:21] New patchset: Jdlrobson; "style fixes - spaces before and after function arguments and single quotes" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7618 [19:26:31] let's just set edit rights for admin [19:26:39] remember, user group has edit by default. It has to be specifically set off. [19:26:45] I've even whipped up https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7616 due to theese troubles [19:27:00] New review: preilly; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7617 [19:27:02] Change merged: preilly; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7617 [19:27:23] New review: preilly; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7618 [19:27:25] Change merged: preilly; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7618 [19:27:39] [WikipediaMobile] jdlrobson pushed 2 new commits to master: http://git.io/Jxcb8Q [19:27:39] [WikipediaMobile/master] Stop click from triggering twice on header elements - YuviPanda [19:27:39] [WikipediaMobile/master] Merge pull request #243 from yuvipanda/stop-double-trigger-click - Jon Robson [19:28:43] fatal: Unable to create '/var/www/wgit/core/.git/index.lock': Permission denied [19:28:45] would this work? [19:28:46] $wgGroupPermissions['*']['edit'] = false; [19:28:46] $wgGroupPermissions['admin']['edit'] = true; [19:28:48] New patchset: preilly; "Update minified javascript" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7619 [19:29:01] Amgine ^^ [19:29:03] New review: preilly; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7619 [19:29:05] Change merged: preilly; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7619 [19:29:12] awjr, yes it will [19:29:34] but you also need ['user']['edit'] = false [19:29:34] + $wgGroupPermissions['user']['edit'] = false; [19:29:38] heh [19:30:09] oh, it has to be explicit even though $wgGroupPermissions['*']['edit'] = false; ? [19:30:13] Yes. [19:30:21] is someone playing with git now? [19:30:41] ok so: [19:30:41] $wgGroupPermissions['*']['createaccount'] = false; [19:30:41] $wgGroupPermissions['*']['edit'] = false; [19:30:41] $wgGroupPermissions['user']['edit'] = false; [19:30:41] $wgGroupPermissions['admin']['edit'] = true; [19:30:54] yes [19:30:59] cool [19:31:02] [19:31:11] sysop:P [19:31:19] * MaxSem facepalms [19:31:33] awjr, ^ [19:31:39] k [19:32:11] Yah.. [19:32:19] ok both wikis now have: [19:32:21] $wgGroupPermissions['*']['createaccount'] = false; [19:32:21] $wgGroupPermissions['*']['edit'] = false; [19:32:21] $wgGroupPermissions['user']['edit'] = false; [19:32:21] $wgGroupPermissions['sysop']['edit'] = true; [19:32:27] \o/ [19:32:33] shall i disable http auth? [19:33:38] yes [19:33:55] let's see how they hammer at the door [19:34:54] What is the name of that big SEO bot again? [19:35:07] xrumer [19:35:08] ok http auth disabled [19:35:15] ah, yah, that. [19:37:51] ok lunchtime [19:41:26] New patchset: L10n-bot; "Localisation updates from http://translatewiki.net." [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7643 [19:41:40] New review: preilly; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7643 [19:41:44] Change merged: preilly; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7643 [19:51:02] why do we load jQuery at the top while all the other scripts at the bottom? [19:53:42] jdlrobson, do you know? ^^ [19:54:19] there is no reason [19:54:22] it just needs to load first [19:54:27] I think that must be a historic thing [19:54:35] we should move it to the bottom [19:55:27] so tfinc philinje preilly awjr MaxSem - any objections to pushing an early version of the new navigation into the beta (jquery browsers only) so we can get some feedback early on? [19:55:48] it would also give us table of contents in the beta [19:55:50] \o/ [19:56:03] no objection from me [19:56:13] it's beta after all [19:56:29] well I'll send it for review then and we can see what happens :) [19:59:02] awjr_lunch, apache on mobile-enwp crashed with OOM. rebooting [20:00:02] * jdlrobson goes to add jump to top to complete beta [20:01:19] MaxSem: it's back now [20:01:34] due to reboot [20:01:57] MaxSem: I needed to reboot it [20:04:49] MaxSem: in MobileFormatter.php what is the correct way to check if the beta is enabled? [20:05:10] don't do that [20:05:46] the less HTML depends on options, the better [20:06:13] if there's no other way to do that, create a specific option and set it depending on beta [20:06:24] ok I'll do that then [20:08:35] errgg this is a pain actually [20:08:52] where I need it is headingTransformCallbackHTML [20:08:54] :-S [20:10:01] actually ... philinje and tfinc is there any reason we can't change 'jump back a section' to 'jump back to top' in the current version as well as the beta - that would simplify things a lot [20:12:45] jdlrobson: do you mean in terms of CSS? [20:13:25] jdlrobson: the "back to top" idea is still speculative and under discussion [20:13:34] ahh ok [20:13:42] i won't bother with it for the time being then [20:14:20] jdlrobson: what problem would it solve, technically? [20:14:20] New patchset: Jdlrobson; "first version of main menu navigation" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7668 [20:14:54] nothing.. I was finding it complicated to add to the beta [20:15:03] (due to the way the code is laid out) [20:15:11] anyway that above is the first version of the beta [20:15:31] happy to walk you through it before it gets merged if you want [20:16:06] jdlrobson: ok. Can I see it in a browser? [20:16:17] I can screen share over skype [20:16:20] probably easiest thing to do [20:16:36] ok [20:17:50] i'm on Skype [20:18:02] k [20:18:07] New patchset: Jdlrobson; "first version of main menu navigation" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7668 [20:21:44] please don't merge above just yet :) [20:22:49] i'm going to be doing interview 3:30 - 4:30 so let me know before that if you need me for anything [20:23:39] http://www.blaze.io/mobile/result/?testid=120514_A3_1CH api.php for the fail [20:27:11] MaxSem: do you already have deployment access? [20:27:23] no [20:27:50] shouldn't I just look from behind your shoulder? [20:28:03] MaxSem: for today, yes [20:28:15] but it might take a little time to get your accounts set up etc so we should get the ball rolling [20:28:25] after we deploy today i'll send out the email/requests/etc [20:29:52] tfinc: the other day you suggested screen sharing for walking through the deployment process with Max - what do you normally use for that? [20:31:16] New review: Jdlrobson; "Changes needed" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7668 [20:31:30] awjr: skype supports it [20:31:32] latest version [20:31:43] or just use screen :D [20:31:49] cool [20:31:54] screen wont work since max doesn't have accounts [20:32:29] :( ... you should file some rt tickets for him then [20:32:33] tfinc i will [20:35:03] preilly: let me know when you want to look at device detection stuf [20:39:42] whats a good test page to verify that we haven't borken left->right scrolling of tabels ? [20:39:44] tables* [20:41:57] arg. we broke it. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Comparison_of_Android_devices no longer scrolls its table [20:42:09] i'll re-open the bug [20:45:37] jdlrobson: heads up about a regression https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36844 [20:45:52] oohh [20:46:12] no rush, but one of the twitter comments was about it [20:47:01] I'm worried that the fix to the thing that broke double click to jump to top on iphone broke this... [20:47:04] I'll try and fix today [20:48:40] jdlrobson: k [20:51:42] New patchset: MaxSem; "Work on mobile script delivery via ResourceLoader" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7670 [21:00:05] New patchset: Jdlrobson; "first version of main menu navigation" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7668 [21:00:58] MaxSem: im going to need a few more minutes before we start [21:01:05] np [21:01:07] but when we're ready to start, we should hop on skype so i can screen share [21:02:54] jdlrobson: just wondering, what is the double-click to jump to top feature on iPhone? where do you double-click? [21:03:08] you double click on the top status bar [21:03:12] on any webpage [21:03:59] ah yes, i thought that was built-in to the iPhone browser [21:05:14] It is yes.. but curiously you can break it with css - > http://jonrobson.me.uk/development/overflow-scrolling/ [21:06:30] jdlrobson: i updated the sharing on the project calendar, so you should be able to edit it, but that calendar is not "official" yet [21:08:10] New patchset: Jdlrobson; "change and allow the translation of the text for no search results" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7671 [21:14:57] jdlrobson, MaxSem: are the outstanding changes for MobileFrontend things you're hoping to see get deployed today? [21:15:10] yes for me [21:15:39] jdlrobson: are you working on the bugs in 36710? [21:16:27] oohh.. I hadn't seen them philinje.. they're under the wrong product [21:16:51] really? [21:16:52] Ihttps://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36716 < needs comment [21:17:10] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36711 haven't been able to replicate [21:17:23] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36712 < enhancement - haven't had a chance to do any of those [21:17:41]