[06:55:59] * tfinc  yawns

[09:11:19] <tfinc>	 jdlrobson: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37261
[09:45:51] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: MaxSem; "Don't display language selector  when there's nothing to  choose from" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9609
[09:46:55] <YuviPanda>	 jdlrobson: http://atnan.com/blog/2011/11/17/enabling-remote-debugging-via-private-apis-in-mobile-safari/
[10:59:39] <YuviPanda>	 aharoni: we've instructions on doing that easily at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mobile/PhoneGap/Tutorial
[10:59:41] <aharoni>	 nd I know enough about GitHub to teach them how to use it
[10:59:42] <YuviPanda>	 aah, yes.
[10:59:42] <YuviPanda>	 VERSION CONTROL!
[10:59:43] <YuviPanda>	 social version control, more like :)
[10:59:44] <aharoni>	 (I might be wrong, but I've got a hunch that there aren't a lot of people who know Git there.)
[10:59:49] <YuviPanda>	 depends on the audience I guess
[11:00:27] <aharoni>	 I mean, maybe in Moscow there are people who know Git, but this is... not Moscow.
[11:00:58] <YuviPanda>	 aharoni: aaah :)
[11:01:13] <YuviPanda>	 aharoni: at such places I also usually talk about http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html
[11:01:59] <aharoni>	 Yes, it's good, but actually there will be somebody from St. Petersburg who will talk about Free Software in general, so he will probably cover that.
[11:02:04] <YuviPanda>	 ah, okay :)
[11:02:37] <aharoni>	 so anyway, it would be very useful to have a ready USB stick with the development environment.
[11:03:16] <aharoni>	 and if possible, something that works on Windows, too, because I'm really not sure that they will have Linux, and I won't have time to install Linux for them (as much as I want to...)
[11:03:20] <YuviPanda>	 aharoni: ah, damn. I'll write it up before berlin :)
[11:03:28] <YuviPanda>	 aharoni: the stick can contain windows linux and os x things
[11:03:32] <YuviPanda>	 *variants
[11:03:35] <YuviPanda>	 not that big
[11:05:56] <aharoni>	 Also, YuviPanda, will you be online next Friday? I'd love to demonstrate them how easily you can get answers about things on IRC :)
[11:06:20] <YuviPanda>	 aharoni: 8th of june will sadly be spent in flights :(
[11:06:32] <YuviPanda>	 i'm flying out on the 8th morning, landing on the 8th night
[11:06:59] <aharoni>	 hmmmm. and on the 7th?
[11:07:33] <YuviPanda>	 I'm unsure if I'll have internet. I'll be in berlin, probably sightseeing.
[11:07:50] <YuviPanda>	 goddamn timing :(
[11:08:24] <aharoni>	 you are in Berlin now, right?
[11:23:29] <YuviPanda>	 aharoni: yup
[11:23:37] <YuviPanda>	 aaah, max referenced in http://bits.wikimedia.org/en.wikipedia.org/load.php?debug=true&amp;lang=en&amp;modules=mobile%7Cmobile.references&amp;only=scripts&amp;skin=mobile&amp;version=1338413047&amp;*
[11:25:11] <aharoni>	 YuviPanda: catch Eran there. He's Israeli and he's a JavaScript wizard.
[11:27:03] <aharoni>	 YuviPanda: In fact, you can give him an iPhone, and he'll find you lots of RTL bugs. And then you'll get him to fix them.
[11:27:13] <YuviPanda>	 ah, that sounds great!
[11:27:26] <YuviPanda>	 aharoni: i'll catch up with him! Do you know when he's coming here?
[11:28:06] <aharoni>	 Ehh... I don't know exactly. Probably to the main Hackathon event... or something.
[11:40:25] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Jdlrobson; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9613
[12:25:01] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: MaxSem; "Revert "Remove deadbeef"" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9618
[12:26:59] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Reedy; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9618
[12:27:01] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9618
[13:00:16] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: MaxSem; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9611
[13:00:18] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: MaxSem; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9611
[13:06:54] <tfinc>	 YuviPanda: http://culturedcode.com/beta/thingscloud/download/ .. check out the iOS instructions
[13:08:58] <YuviPanda>	  tfinc https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37269
[13:30:12] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "slight tweak to device detection opera handling" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9629
[13:31:29] <tfinc>	 Ryan_Lane: are you the right person to approve this https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/9628/ ?
[13:32:52] <Ryan_Lane>	 is it in rt?
[13:32:55] <tfinc>	 yes
[13:33:04] <Ryan_Lane>	 it needs to be signed off on
[13:33:11] <tfinc>	 let me pull the ticket #
[13:33:38] <tfinc>	 https://rt.wikimedia.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=3063 ... who's the right approver for this ?
[13:33:39] <tfinc>	 robla ?
[13:36:12] <Ryan_Lane>	 ask ct
[13:53:49] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "jslint settings code" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9631
[13:53:50] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "shift code to top" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9632
[13:53:50] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "move cookie functions to settings.js" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9633
[14:16:26] <brion>	 tfinc: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/apps/hh465233.aspx
[14:42:00] <tfinc>	 YuviPanda: https://twitter.com/filiphnizdo/statuses/208568866891251714 :D
[14:43:21] <tfinc>	 jdlrobson: can you pass the guy above some css related volunteer work ?
[15:50:21] <wikipedia-github>	 [WikipediaMobile] yuvipanda created geo-data (+1 new commit): http://git.io/0dcLaA
[15:50:21] <wikipedia-github>	 [WikipediaMobile/geo-data] Locked to WMF-Geo labs instance, uses that for nearby - YuviPanda
[15:54:33] <wikipedia-github>	 [WikipediaMobile] brion pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/GfiPCA
[15:54:33] <wikipedia-github>	 [WikipediaMobile/master] Update versions for win8 release 3 - Brion Vibber
[16:07:14] <tfinc>	 brion: https://twitter.com/filiphnizdo/status/208568866891251714
[16:14:01] <wikipedia-github>	 [WikipediaMobile] yuvipanda force-pushed geo-data from 3f8e1c5 to 6b82558: http://git.io/xgCYWg
[16:14:01] <wikipedia-github>	 [WikipediaMobile/geo-data] Locked to WMF-Geo labs instance, uses that for nearby - YuviPanda
[16:17:59] <tfinc>	 YuviPanda: got that apk for me ?
[16:18:07] <YuviPanda>	 tfinc: yeah, writing up the email
[16:18:10] <tfinc>	 k
[16:49:03] <wikipedia-github>	 [WikipediaMobile] yuvipanda force-pushed geo-data from 6b82558 to da5696b: http://git.io/xgCYWg
[16:49:03] <wikipedia-github>	 [WikipediaMobile/geo-data] Locked to WMF-Geo labs instance, uses that for nearby - YuviPanda
[17:12:00] <Amgine>	 grr
[17:12:10] <Amgine>	 YuviPanda: you awake?
[17:12:21] <YuviPanda>	 Amgine: verry muchhh
[17:12:45] <tfinc>	 Amgine: will we see you at the Berlin hackathon?
[17:12:57] <awjr>	 hello all
[17:14:20] <YuviPanda>	 hello awjr
[17:14:33] <awjr>	 how's it going YuviPanda? enjoying berlin?
[17:14:41] <YuviPanda>	 awjr: completely :D
[17:14:45] <awjr>	 :D
[17:15:38] <tfinc>	 awjr: wassup
[17:15:44] <awjr>	 yo!
[17:15:52] <awjr>	 how's the hackathon?
[17:15:55] <tfinc>	 we should setup a dedicated hangout session so thatyou can be part of the hackathon
[17:16:00] <awjr>	 aww
[17:16:18] <awjr>	 it just wouldn't be the same without club mate though
[17:16:24] <tfinc>	 awjr: this is true
[17:16:58] <awjr>	 i've been lurking on the etherpad - looks like some cool stuff is getting done
[17:22:25] <wikipedia-github>	 [WikipediaMobile] brion pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/6BTgtg
[17:22:25] <wikipedia-github>	 [WikipediaMobile/master] Enable pinch-zoom and disable zoom controls on everything but Android 2.x - Brion Vibber
[17:23:13] * tfinc  starts to hit a wall due to only having 2 hours of real sleep

[17:37:04] <Amgine>	 <grmmm>
[18:25:07] <tfinc>	 awjr: your mail "Varnish, MW sessions, and tokens" ... you kept saying you as if you were addressing it to someone
[18:29:56] <awjr>	 tfinc the first one was intended to be the universal 'you', the second one was addressed to Patrick
[18:33:20] <YuviPanda>	 jdlrobson: https://github.com/yuvipanda/WLMMobile/commit/a767332c6f01b1850797d1e6c64c12c6650a3b12
[18:35:39] <MaxSem>	 awjr: have you seen https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ao2aQexGl5jxdDU1a20wLW0yOXVhd3VOUWtYV3N2ZlE#gid=0 ?
[18:39:26] <awjr>	 MaxSem: yep
[18:39:32] <awjr>	 MaxSem can you make it so i can edit that document?
[18:40:17] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "cover opera mobile on android devices" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9652
[18:41:23] <MaxSem>	 awjr: you should be able to - just login into a google account
[18:41:56] <awjr>	 MaxSem: i'm logged into my arichards@wikimedia.org account and can only view
[18:42:49] <MaxSem>	 awjr: try now
[18:43:20] <awjr>	 MaxSem: now it works thanks
[18:45:37] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: awjrichards; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9609
[18:45:39] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: awjrichards; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9609
[18:46:05] <MaxSem>	 jdlrobson: http://wikitech.wikimedia.org/view/MobileFrontend#Squid
[18:49:09] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: awjrichards; "We should go ahead and implement plurals support here as well, per bug 37215 (http://www.mediawiki.o..." [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9613
[18:50:42] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: awjrichards; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9629
[18:50:44] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: awjrichards; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9629
[18:51:41] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: awjrichards; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9631
[18:51:43] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: awjrichards; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9631
[18:52:48] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: awjrichards; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9632
[18:52:50] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: awjrichards; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9632
[18:57:14] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: awjrichards; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9633
[18:57:16] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: awjrichards; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9633
[19:00:32] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: awjrichards; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9652
[19:00:34] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: awjrichards; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9652
[19:07:12] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: awjrichards; "Rephrasing the frontend-language-header message." [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9613
[19:09:41] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: awjrichards; "Rephrasing the frontend-language-header message." [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9613
[19:25:52] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: L10n-bot; "Localisation updates from http://translatewiki.net." [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9677
[19:49:07] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Reedy; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9677
[19:49:08] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Reedy; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9677
[21:15:56] <varnent>	 anyone around who might be able to answer a question about a Wikimania app?
[21:52:12] <Dereckson>	 Hi
[21:52:28] <Dereckson>	 varnent: there is currently an hackathon with a lot of mediawiki developers
[21:52:41] <Dereckson>	 maybe we could post your question somewhere and get you an answer
[21:52:59] <varnent>	 Dereckson: that's a good idea  :)
[21:55:05] <Dereckson>	 I've a friend ready with a black pencil and a A4 sheet of paper to note your question.
[21:57:14] <Dereckson>	 varnent?
[21:57:40] <varnent>	 lol - so was wondering if there was interest in development of a Wikimania mobile app
[21:59:40] <varnent>	 http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2012-June/060897.html
[22:00:15] <varnent>	 Dereckson: I posted here as well - ty for the suggestion!  :)  https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Berlin_Hackathon_2012
[22:00:57] <Dereckson>	 Okay, we're putting it on a sheet of paper on our whiteboard too, so it will be physically visible
[22:02:30] <varnent>	 wonderful - ty!
[22:08:36] <Dereckson>	 yw
[22:44:46] <Dereckson>	 We would need a printer.
[22:44:49] <Dereckson>	 varnent: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimania_mobile_developer_application_wanted.JPG
[22:47:37] <Dereckson>	 varnent: if you need to correct this sheet of paper, leave me a message
[23:02:00] <varnent>	 awesome - I like it  :)
[23:03:20] <varnent>	 Dereckson: that kiijs great - ty - aude (Katie) is there and interested as well
[23:03:36] <varnent>	 ack - sorry - keyboard snafu - *looks great