[06:03:01] * tfinc  yawn

[06:07:12] <tfinc>	 awjr: you around ?
[06:16:58] <awjr>	 tfinc: sorta
[06:17:00] <awjr>	 what's up?
[06:20:40] <awjr>	 *finally* getting the 4.0.4 update
[06:30:55] <tfinc>	 awjr: any performance issues on mobile today? i may have a slow connection here but i'm seeing js load super slow on the mobile site
[06:31:06] <tfinc>	 awjr: anyone else report the greyed out issue?
[06:34:20] <tfinc>	 i think its just my connection here
[06:34:29] <tfinc>	 but we should put our perf graphs in one central place
[06:34:34] <tfinc>	 so that we can look at it objectively
[06:36:41] <awjr>	 tfinc i havent heard any reports like that
[06:36:54] <awjr>	 nor had any problems here
[06:38:02] <tfinc>	 i bet its my connection then
[06:38:24] <awjr>	 good night last night?
[06:43:40] <tfinc>	 always is here
[06:43:40] <tfinc>	 really productive day too
[06:44:51] <awjr>	 awesome
[06:55:41] <awjr>	 im out - have a kickass time!
[08:21:56] <wikipedia-github>	 [WikipediaMobile] brion pushed 3 new commits to master: http://git.io/xXjRZg
[08:21:56] <wikipedia-github>	 [WikipediaMobile/master] bug 36105: Fix for hidden map markers on Android 3/4 - Brion Vibber
[08:21:56] <wikipedia-github>	 [WikipediaMobile/master] Compatibility with leaflet 0.4 - Brion Vibber
[08:21:56] <wikipedia-github>	 [WikipediaMobile/master] classpath update for eclipse adt - Brion Vibber
[08:44:15] <multichill>	 Starting documentation at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Monuments_database/Setup
[08:44:18] <tfinc>	 greetings multichill
[08:44:45] <tfinc>	 YuviPanda: multichill: Starting documentation at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Monuments_database/Setup
[08:45:17] <YuviPanda>	 tfinc: I don't seem to have permissions on labs to create instances. Do you?
[08:46:27] <tfinc>	 YuviPanda: let me log in and see what you would need for that
[08:46:34] * tfinc  loads up the unicorn interface

[08:47:13] <tfinc>	 YuviPanda: whats your labs account?
[08:47:18] <YuviPanda>	 Yuvipanda
[08:47:32] <tfinc>	 i'm going to add you to https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nova_Resource:Mobile
[08:47:57] <tfinc>	 "Successfully added Yuvipanda to sysadmin."
[08:48:02] <tfinc>	 YuviPanda: --^
[08:48:03] <YuviPanda>	 sweeet!
[08:51:53] <tfinc>	 YuviPanda: were you able to create an instance ?
[08:52:03] <YuviPanda>	 tfinc: yup!
[08:52:09] <YuviPanda>	 on it now
[08:55:58] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "Rephrasing the frontend-language-header message." [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9613
[08:57:09] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Jdlrobson; "The code looks right to me based on instructions here [1] but I couldn't seem to get it to output th..." [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9613
[08:57:21] <YuviPanda>	 multichill: do you have labs access?
[08:57:29] <multichill>	 yup
[08:57:40] <multichill>	 I think so
[08:58:06] <YuviPanda>	 multichill: log in and check? I think we need to get you access to the mobile project if you don't already have it
[09:02:14] <multichill>	 will do
[09:04:01] <YuviPanda>	 brion: the facebook sharing erroring out - are you using the released version or did you build + deploy?
[09:04:11] <brion>	 YuviPanda: build & deploy
[09:04:11] <YuviPanda>	 if latter, you wouldn't have the key which would explain 'error occured'
[09:04:14] <brion>	 does it need aha
[09:04:16] <brion>	 that'll do it ;)
[09:08:26] <YuviPanda>	 cool, mobile-wlm instance is up! :)
[09:09:38] <multichill|2>	 YuviPanda: ssh bastion.<???>??
[09:09:59] <YuviPanda>	 multichill|2: https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Access#Accessing_public_and_private_instances
[09:11:17] <YuviPanda>	 multichill|2: what's your labs username?
[09:11:26] <multichill|2>	 Just multichill
[09:11:56] <YuviPanda>	 multichill: see if you can see the mobile project now?
[09:13:11] <YuviPanda>	 multichill: http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/wlm-on-labs-steps
[09:26:30] <YuviPanda>	 multichill: I'm documenting stuff on that etherpad link. If you're installing anything at all, add it there :)
[09:32:47] <wikipedia-github>	 [WikipediaMobile] brion pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/Qd6rMg
[09:32:47] <wikipedia-github>	 [WikipediaMobile/master] (bug 36801) Associate app only with article view links on Android - Brion Vibber
[10:41:53] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "remove MobileFrontend global (bug 36379)" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9743
[11:12:24] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "remove MobileFrontend global (bug 36379)" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9743
[11:14:10] <multichill>	 https://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/tools/ToolserverI18N/
[11:18:20] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "remove MobileFrontend global (bug 36379)" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9743
[11:30:42] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "activate desktop view toggle javascript code" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9749
[12:15:05] <multichill>	 YuviPanda: http://pastebin.com/bAwtju7p
[12:15:44] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "move desktopViewClick to settings.js" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9754
[12:24:46] <YuviPanda>	 tfinc: do we have public IPs for this?
[12:28:04] <tfinc>	 YuviPanda: we have mobile-geo
[12:28:08] <tfinc>	 i doubt that we have more public ips
[12:28:12] <tfinc>	 you'll have to proxy
[12:28:15] <YuviPanda>	 looks like
[12:28:19] <tfinc>	 talk to Ryan_Lane to find out
[12:28:32] <YuviPanda>	 tfinc: have you seen him today?
[12:28:41] <tfinc>	 yup
[12:28:48] <tfinc>	 i'm sure he's hanging out with the ops group
[12:31:30] <YuviPanda>	 ok
[12:31:40] <tfinc>	 YuviPanda: https://developers.google.com/maps/documentation/geocoding/?hl=en under Address Component Types
[12:32:02] <tfinc>	 they do administrative_area_level_1/2/3
[12:32:10] <tfinc>	 there is a full writeup on their doc page
[12:32:12] <tfinc>	 multichill: --^
[12:32:29] <YuviPanda>	 tfinc: yeah, same as OSM
[12:41:43] <multichill>	 tfinc: https://svn.toolserver.org/svnroot/p_erfgoed/api/
[12:42:19] <tfinc>	 jdlrobson: i see a kendo sticker on your laptop. does that mean i can break out my shinai when you get in town ?
[12:42:54] <YuviPanda>	 more new words!
[12:43:34] <jdlrobson>	 as long as you don't kill me tfinc
[12:43:38] <jdlrobson>	 i just like looking at ninjas
[12:43:43] <jdlrobson>	 its the logo from > http://www.kendoui.com/
[12:43:48] <tfinc>	 jdlrobson: have you ever done kendo ? .. its fun :)
[12:43:51] <YuviPanda>	 if you can look at them are they still ninjas?
[12:43:57] <jdlrobson>	 nope always up for trying though
[12:43:58] <tfinc>	 ahh i see now
[12:44:04] <jdlrobson>	 don't ask me if the library is any good
[12:44:11] <jdlrobson>	 i didn't bother looking... i just took the ninja sticker
[12:44:18] <tfinc>	 i like how were talking on irc even though were all at the same table. habits are hard to break
[12:44:22] <YuviPanda>	 :D
[12:44:44] <YuviPanda>	 distance is irrelevant!
[12:44:49] <YuviPanda>	 ah, Ryan_Lane1!
[12:45:33] <Ryan_Lane>	 YuviPanda: ?
[12:46:20] <YuviPanda>	 Ryan_Lane: is there a standard labs way to proxy requests from an instance with a public IP to one without?
[12:46:34] <Ryan_Lane>	 I don't know what you mean
[12:46:45] <YuviPanda>	 actually nevermind.
[12:47:55] <YuviPanda>	 MaxSem: can I install some sort of proxy on mobile-geo?
[12:48:07] <YuviPanda>	 MaxSem: with nginx, probably?
[12:55:54] <preilly>	 YuviPanda: why?
[12:56:21] <tfinc>	 preilly: are we still seeing what awjr mentions in "Varnish, MW sessions, and tokens" ?
[12:56:27] <tfinc>	 jdlrobson: --^
[12:59:35] <tfinc_meetings>	 brion: were bulding out a mobile browsing testing matrix @ http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mobile/Testing_process ..under production you'll find firefox. what versions of mobile firefox should we test against? i'm guessing just latest with how fast its changing
[13:01:11] <jdlrobson>	 maxsem  > http://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Microsoft&mobileaction=toggle_view_mobile#_
[13:25:53] <YuviPand_>	 Ryan_Lane: preilly thanks!
[13:25:57] <Ryan_Lane1>	 yw
[13:30:32] <YuviPand_>	 multichill: http://mobile-wlm.wmflabs.org/api/api.php
[13:32:45] <preilly>	 YuviPand_: nice
[14:08:42] <jdlrobson>	 tfinc want to come here tonight? > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kunsthaus_Tacheles
[14:09:08] <YuviPand_>	 multichill: http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/wlm-on-labs-steps
[14:14:56] <YuviPand_>	 multichill: https://jira.toolserver.org/browse/TS-1396
[14:19:11] <aharoni>	 Hi YuviPand_. Did you find Eran?
[14:19:25] <YuviPand_>	 aharoni: no, I have not
[14:19:28] <YuviPand_>	 do you know his IRC nick?
[14:19:42] <aharoni>	 probably EranRoz.
[14:26:22] <OuKB>	 jdlrobson, did you sync your DeviceDetection changes with core?
[14:53:38] <RobH>	 archer  .
[14:53:39] <ArcherBot>	 : No Cyril, when they're dead, they're just hookers!
[14:53:46] <RobH>	 awesome.
[14:53:51] <RobH>	 I love you ArcherBot
[14:53:52] <ArcherBot>	 : Can't or won't?
[14:54:01] <RobH>	 either archerbot, either
[14:54:02] <ArcherBot>	 : Malory: If you were half as smart as she was–Sterling: She wasn't too smart to die from eating chocolate, was she?
[14:55:22] <RobH>	 we need an ArcherBot in every channel
[14:55:23] <ArcherBot>	 : And your shoes! Because how hard is it to poach a goddamn egg properly? Seriously, that's like Eggs 101, Woodhouse.
[14:56:16] <RobH>	 testing per someones recommendation Terry Chay
[14:56:17] <ArcherBot>	 Fact: Terry Chay doesn't sleep, he's just waiting for his electronics to recharge
[14:56:35] * RobH  hugs ArcherBot

[14:57:00] <RobH>	 durn, ArcherBot doesnt listen to /me
[14:57:00] <ArcherBot>	 : Malory: If you were half as smart as she was–Sterling: She wasn't too smart to die from eating chocolate, was she?
[15:01:51] * YuviPand_  wonders when to wear his 'not just the tip' t shirt

[15:26:45] <philinje>	 hi all
[15:39:37] <Amgine|Berlin>	 Tfinc, YuviPanda: bugzilla #37307 a blocker for you?
[15:41:14] <YuviPanda>	 Amgine|Berlin: where are you and why haven't I met you yet?
[15:41:38] <Amgine|Berlin>	 I ran away about 40 minutes ago.
[15:41:41] <YuviPanda>	 wat
[15:41:48] <YuviPanda>	 deserter
[15:41:58] <Amgine|Berlin>	 <laughs> Too loud, couldn't concentrate.
[15:42:03] <Amgine|Berlin>	 Coding in hotel room.
[15:42:14] <YuviPanda>	 ah
[15:42:22] <YuviPanda>	 Amgine|Berlin: are you involved in WLM?
[15:42:36] <Amgine|Berlin>	 Apparently not, as I have no clue what it is.
[15:43:51] <philinje>	 hey Yuvi
[15:43:56] <YuviPanda>	 hey philinje
[15:44:04] <philinje>	 how was it today?
[15:44:16] <YuviPanda>	 philinje: pretty good,
[15:44:29] <YuviPanda>	 philinje: http://mobile-wlm.wmflabs.org/api/api.php is the wlm server bits running on labs
[15:44:38] <philinje>	 awesome!
[15:44:44] <YuviPanda>	 plus http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/wlm-on-labs-steps is the instructions for reproing it
[15:44:57] <YuviPanda>	 philinje: multichill is here fixing bugs next to me
[15:45:07] <philinje>	 say hi for me
[15:45:37] <philinje>	 you guys are still going for a while?
[15:45:56] <YuviPanda>	 philinje: looks like
[15:46:34] <philinje>	 hope you're feeling better - food poisoning is nasty stuff
[15:46:48] <YuviPanda>	 philinje: thankfully it went away before i left
[15:47:02] <philinje>	 good to hear
[15:47:29] <philinje>	 do you have any questions about the WLM wireframes?
[15:49:18] <philinje>	 anyway, i will be online probably till you guys finish for today
[15:49:33] <tfinc>	 damn right were still going for a while :)
[15:49:47] <tfinc>	 we've been focusong on backend and db just liked you asked philinje
[15:49:48] <philinje>	 couple more hours?
[15:50:06] <YuviPanda>	 yeah, i'm workin on getting rid of the nastier parts of setup
[15:50:10] <tfinc>	 i'm going to maximize on my time as i'll only be able to be here until 12 tomorrow
[15:50:12] <YuviPanda>	 hard coding paths is ewww
[15:50:13] <philinje>	 yeah, Yuvi pointed me to the stuff on Labs, which is great news
[15:50:27] <tfinc>	 multichill: how go the api improvements ?
[15:50:33] <tfinc>	 philinje:  multichill == maarten
[15:50:44] <philinje>	 yup
[15:51:13] <multichill>	 ok
[15:52:19] <tfinc>	 philinje: we've made good progress on wlm, geo article planning, resource loader migration, and more
[15:52:31] <philinje>	 fantastic
[15:58:18] <philinje>	 tfinc: let me know if/when you can chat on google
[16:22:09] <philinje>	 hey Brion
[16:22:28] <brion>	 hey philinje
[16:22:30] <brion>	 how goes it
[16:22:42] <philinje>	 been lonely over here!
[16:22:47] <brion>	 aww
[16:22:53] <brion>	 it's hopping here :D
[16:23:04] <philinje>	 saw the photo of you guys in the pub
[16:23:13] <brion>	 :)
[16:23:22] <philinje>	 wanted to say Happy BV Day myself
[16:23:54] <brion>	 thanks!
[16:24:01] <brion>	 save a cupcake for me
[16:24:13] <philinje>	 oops, they were popular
[16:24:16] <brion>	 hehehe
[16:24:41] <philinje>	 do you think all the backend stuff for WLM is progressing well?
[16:27:46] <brion>	 philinje: so far so good
[16:28:03] <brion>	 good talk earlier w/ elke & maarten about what we need
[16:28:08] <brion>	 sounds like we'll get it sorted out
[16:28:14] <philinje>	 great!
[16:28:14] <brion>	 and they've started playing with a labs instance
[16:28:27] <philinje>	 yeah, Yuvi pointed that out
[16:28:34] <brion>	 \o/
[16:28:47] <philinje>	 Nice!
[16:29:44] <philinje>	 have fun tonight - and maybe not too much ;-)
[16:29:57] <brion>	 hehe
[21:42:11] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Platonides; "Prefill the article name for the links in the "Article feedback" section, as many people email us through this way omitting the name of the article they are talking about." [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9869