[15:42:44] YuviPanda: can we drop support for the older apps now you've released the latest android? I've got another regression caused by trying to work around it https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37660 [16:29:29] jdlrobson: heya! [16:29:35] yes, feel free to remove support for 1.x [16:29:47] we'll still need to support 1.1 for a while [16:31:31] those 2 lines contradict each other? [16:32:01] gah [16:32:07] jdlrobson: feel free to remove support for 1.0.x [16:32:11] :) [16:32:18] which one is the one that screen scrapeS? [16:33:40] jdlrobson: 1.1.x :) [16:33:56] jdlrobson: 1.0.x also screen scrapes [16:35:00] arggh [16:35:11] the screen scraping one is the one causing pain [16:35:53] so, at least couple of months more [16:36:13] jdlrobson: which screen scraping one? IIRC there were some specific, 'uglier' hacks in place for 1.0.x [16:36:25] esp. in the section toggling code [16:36:41] it's toggling basically [16:36:51] toggling is the reason we still serve onclick attributes in the html which i hate! [16:37:08] jdlrobson: i think onclick is a 1.0.x thing [16:37:18] really? [16:37:24] 1.0.x hack, that we 'fixed' in 1.1.x [16:37:36] basically whenever we introduced toggle.js [16:37:37] from MFE [16:37:41] the problem got fixed [16:37:45] jdlrobson: 1.1 has toggle.js from MFE [16:37:51] \o/ [16:37:58] so I can remove then? [16:38:01] yes [16:38:07] If i push a change is there any way you can verify it doesn't break? [16:38:26] jdlrobson: before you push the change, you mean :) [16:38:30] jdlrobson: hmm, yes [16:38:35] \o/ [16:38:43] i can make a build of 1.1 that points to a test server [16:38:44] I'd like to push it today [16:38:52] to avoid writing an IE hack [16:39:06] and to give support to section toggling back to many firefox, opera and blackberry users [16:39:16] due to my horrible code commit last week [16:39:33] jdlrobson: sure, i can make a build that points to test server [16:39:46] or a local one if you prefer [16:39:50] ok just ptesting and pushing change now [16:39:54] will poke you when up on gerrit [16:39:56] for you to review [16:39:59] jdlrobson: sweet [16:47:35] YuviPanda: ... [16:47:52] New patchset: Jdlrobson; "drop support for toggling in Wikipedia Mobile App 1.0.x" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11882 [16:47:58] that was so nice to do [16:48:18] heh [16:48:21] * yuvipanda goes to look [16:52:17] New review: Yuvipanda; "Shouldn't break 1.1.x (Android) or 3.1.x (iOS), since they ship with their own versions of toggle.js..." [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11882 [16:52:20] jdlrobson: +1'd [16:52:29] awesome [16:52:30] jdlrobson: i checked up how 1.1 does it, and this should work fine [16:52:38] i'll test just to be sure when this goes to testwiki [16:52:42] excellent [16:52:46] jdlrobson: when do you plan on deploying this? [16:52:53] I'm hoping I can convince Patrick to do it today [16:53:06] Since it will fix a lot of breakages [16:53:45] jdlrobson: hmmm, okay! [16:54:49] jdlrobson: if I won't be around when this rolls out, I'll make builds that test against testwiki [16:55:25] shouldn't or does not break? [16:55:38] MaxSem: shouldn't. [16:55:46] that's not enough [16:56:08] we've had a lot of botched up deployments lately [16:56:20] MaxSem: it's a strong shouldn't, since the app ships with its own toggle.js code [16:56:28] it will break 1.0, but that's okay [16:56:57] hmm, MaxSem can you deploy it to mobile-testing? [16:57:04] i can verify it there [16:57:10] if you want 'won't' [16:57:33] I can deploy it there YuviPanda [16:57:35] New review: preilly; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master); V: 1 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11882 [16:57:43] if you been mobile-testing.wmflabs.org [16:57:47] jdlrobson: yes [16:57:52] k 1s [16:58:32] jdlrobson, I'm pulling master ATM [16:58:55] on mobile-testing MaxSem ? [16:59:01] yup [16:59:05] k [16:59:11] i'll leave you to that then [17:01:21] alright, i've a build [17:03:43] yuvipanda, checked out [17:04:22] MaxSem: search errors out? [17:04:22] btw, it's standup time!:P [17:04:30] ?? [17:04:30] http://hastebin.com/qejimarifu.xml [17:04:49] MaxSem: i'm guessing tfinc has been held up [17:05:07] heh [17:05:19] MaxSem: search is expected to be out? [17:05:29] that was my attempt to speed up dump import [17:05:56] well, it didn't help much:P [17:06:14] heh [17:06:14] tfinc just arrived [17:08:51] greetings all [17:08:55] jdlrobson: MaxSem i can confirm that toggling works on the 1.1.1 app from mobile-testing [17:08:55] MaxSem: yuvipanda : https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/22fc1740e37d968e6b69a3cae822481c207a75f4?authuser=1&hl=en [17:09:11] sorry about the delay [17:09:41] yuvipanda: just waiting on you now [17:18:29] jdlrobson: section expansion is the only bit that should be affected, right? [17:18:59] anyway, it works on the app [17:19:05] here is the patch if you want to test it yourself http://hastebin.com/heweyeyipe.vhdl [17:26:18] MaxSem: what are your thoughts on https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/11882/ [17:26:31] looking right now [17:26:38] MaxSem: Okay great [17:29:13] yuvipanda, how does that rev work with your test app? [17:29:28] MaxSem: i'm pointing it to mobile-testing and it works fine [17:29:45] so it's +1 from you, cool [17:29:58] yeah! [17:30:19] New review: Yuvipanda; "Tested a modified build of the app on this. Works fine (v1.1.1-Android and v3.1.2-iOS)" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11882 [17:31:45] So is this merge ready? [17:32:43] yuvipanda, MaxSem: Can https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/11882/ be merged now? [17:32:59] New review: MaxSem; "Approving per IRC cabal and my own testing." [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11882 [17:33:01] Change merged: MaxSem; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11882 [17:33:06] +1 from me [17:33:36] jdlrobson, Element div not allowed as child of element h2 in this context. (not related to this rev) [17:34:10] MaxSem: can you get that change into the deployment branch and pushed live? [17:35:32] okay [17:35:47] MaxSem: great thanks [17:35:49] we have a div within an h2? [17:36:30] MaxSem: I don't think we do.. should be

[17:36:32] MaxSem: Where does, "Element div not allowed as child of element h2 in this context." occur? [17:36:46] yuvipanda: hows feedback looking for 1.2 ? [17:37:07] jdlrobson, W3C's validator seems to disagree [17:37:10] yuvipanda: "Needs improvement. New update blows! If I am looking at something, and want to go to the previous page, instead it goes to the home page, very annoying, I uninstalled then reinstalled to see if fixed, heck no. Please please retool so this problem is fixed, if it is fixed this is worth 5 stars then right now it is worth 2." [17:37:20] YuviPanda: talking to philinje i hear we are having issues passing the user agent to emails created using contact us? [17:37:39] tfinc: that plus another one about how we lost the ability to 'pinch zoom' seem to be the negative ones [17:37:44] i'm unable to repro either of them [17:37:49] MaxSem: what html are you validating? [17:37:55] tfinc: otherwise generally quite positive [17:38:15] jdlrobson, our own brand beta from master [17:38:28] yuvipanda: was this the other one "HELLO WIKIPEDIA? Do you ever listen to feedback? Your new update has resulted in numerous problems, including menu items that won't click, incomplete articles and the loss of pinch and zoom functions. When are you gonna fix it?!? And this app is totally pointless, just bookmark the website and save 1+ mgs." ? [17:38:33] but what page.. have you imported one? [17:38:36] yeah, that one. [17:38:46] "Tables need fix. There are various improvements still needed with this app. But I do like the useful functions which work well & can't be obtained by using the website, such as Search Nearby (great for local attractions info when travelling), & Save (for offline reading on your phone). A white-on-black option would be good (for AMOLED screens). And my *MAJOR GRIPE* is that the tables still aren't fixed -they don't all fit on the screen & give no wa [17:38:47] scroll or zoom out, so you can't read everything." [17:39:01] MaxSem: mine validates fine [17:39:25] tfinc: the second one has me confused, since we never actually had pinch and zoom... [17:39:57] pinch *to zoom [17:40:15] there was another one about saved pages list not being organizable or scrolling properly [17:40:17] jdlrobson, http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=https%3A%2F%2Fen.m.wikipedia.org%2Fw%2Findex.php%3Ftitle%3DCAT%3ARFU&charset=%28detect+automatically%29&doctype=Inline&group=0 [17:40:54] tfinc: i'll note that the 'tables' issue reported is not the one you saw in Monarchy - that was fixed. [17:41:10] ahh ok that makes more sense MaxSem - I'll post a fix but that's not so urgent [17:41:19] yuvipanda: Wikipedia 1.2 has overtaken 1.1 [17:41:21] 1.1.1 [17:41:28] tfinc: yeah, saw that. that was fast [17:41:36] expect the tail to take forever [17:41:41] though there are a percentage on 1.0 that will have their toggling broken today [17:42:09] yuvipanda: can you open a bug to show notices in the app. for this case it would be "please upgrade" [17:42:15] MaxSem: also that's a bug - that should be a logo not a div [17:42:33] tfinc, in AWB we simply prohibit to use old versions in a centralised way [17:42:46] tfinc: heh, sure. [17:42:57] tfinc: but i'll note that google play / android market does that notification for us already [17:43:07] yuvipanda: look at the tail. its not good enough [17:43:19] yeah, agreed. [17:43:27] i wonder how it is for other apps, though [17:43:41] tfinc: it will be perhaps more interesting to see the traffic we get from 1.0.x [17:43:48] than pure marketshare [17:43:59] there are 220,000 people still using 1.1 (not 1.1.1) and that upgrade happened a month ago [17:44:21] yuvipanda: are we setting the version in the ua ? [17:44:47] tfinc: yes [17:45:02] philinje: how is our 1.0.2 Wikipedia app traffic looking ? [17:45:24] pfhayes: before you ask. i'm looking to publish the wiktionary app tues/wed :D [17:45:34] tfinc: sounds great! :) [17:45:57] tfinc: I'll need to push out an update for 1.2. Looks like I forgot to update the UA for 1.2, so 1.2 reports as 1.1 [17:46:14] sigh [17:46:21] yuvipanda: ugh. thats a lame reason to have to bump a version [17:46:24] we should have caught that [17:46:29] put together a checklist for this [17:46:47] s/this/release [17:47:34] tfinc: yes, will do. Am going to move this to auto now so this doesn't need to be bumped separately. [17:47:40] and will put up a checklist on wiki [17:47:44] good [17:49:31] preilly, how do I cherrypick a rev to the deployment branch? [17:53:52] New patchset: Jdlrobson; "remove opera mobile hacks (bug 37698)" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11890 [17:57:35] MaxSem: is there much more in master besides that change? [17:58:54] preilly, 4 more non-translation changes [17:59:41] MaxSem: well I think we should just push them now [18:00:04] MaxSem: I try to avoid cherry-picking as much as possible [18:00:42] preilly, another deployment window has just opened, we'll have to wait [18:01:03] MaxSem: okay will you still be around after that window is closed? [18:01:15] yeah [18:01:21] MaxSem: okay wonderful [18:02:57] but that'll be late again just like the last time when I was too sleepy [18:03:09] MaxSem: hmm okay [18:03:17] MaxSem: well if you don't feel like doing it [18:03:23] MaxSem: I can just do it [18:03:30] preilly MaxSem just noticed that MobileFrontend is trying to get a token but failing - http://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=mobileview&page=mobiletoken&override=1&format=xml [18:03:34] MaxSem: I was just trying to get a few more under your belt [18:03:41] yuvipanda: i'm eager to try the wlm apk :D [18:04:15] jdlrobson, that thing is broken on other levels, too:P [18:04:54] preilly, we'll see how I will feel when our window opens [18:07:02] okay, back to WLM [18:07:10] [WikipediaMobile] yuvipanda created v1.2.1-Android (+1 new commit): http://git.io/eROIRQ [18:07:10] [WikipediaMobile/v1.2.1-Android] Updated UA version number to be automatic. - YuviPanda [18:08:13] tfinc: let me finish / push this out, will get that to you in a bit [18:10:49] k [18:11:04] take your time to make it look good [18:11:04] tfinc: i've prepped a release, am going to just push it out [18:12:02] yuvipanda: preilly : how did the updated changes from the dolphin guys look? [18:12:28] MaxSem: what do you think of: [18:12:33] MaxSem: - if ( !$title->exists() && !$this->file ) { [18:12:33] + if ( !$title->exists() && !$this->file && $params['page'] !== 'mobiletoken' ) { [18:12:39] jdlrobson: are we seeing less grey text this week on the mobile site ? [18:12:45] MaxSem: in api/ApiMobileView.php [18:13:04] tfinc: I actually saw the bug on my mobile at the weekend but when I refreshed the page it went away so still unable to replicate.. [18:13:16] jdlrobson: open a bug [18:13:23] tfinc: havent' had the time to look, will do once 1.2.1 goes out. [18:13:29] tfinc: there is a bug already [18:13:37] # please [18:13:37] it looked okay to me [18:13:40] yuvipanda: k [18:14:28] philinje: we've let the feedback test go on long enough. can you come up with a consolidated action plan for feedback ? these empty emails are too much noise [18:15:05] preilly, we could simply return at the end of if ( $params['page'] == 'mobiletoken' && $params['override'] == 1 ) [18:15:12] but I'm still waiting for this hack to die [18:15:19] jdlrobson: don't forget to pass on the dark background wikipedia app bug to sethen [18:15:21] yuvipanda: --^ [18:15:30] tfinc: yup that's on my plate for today [18:15:32] and the path of code that is supposed to use it is commented out anyway [18:15:58] MaxSem: that is what I had in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend.git;a=blob;f=api/ApiMobileView.php;hb=547f1e54a2df94de05592a7ea2a61c02e65d5da5 [18:16:02] MaxSem: and you took it out [18:16:23] yuvipanda: were going to get a volunteer on the dark background issue in the app [18:16:30] MaxSem: see https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend.git;a=blobdiff;f=api/ApiMobileView.php;h=d752323263b9e40d12da9d60a5d478712f4ada98;hp=0204004f27c5057c4f1d013cbe02ecadd9982a73;hb=4b3684b7b6795442b33c53fb61e232e9e27acf5a;hpb=547f1e54a2df94de05592a7ea2a61c02e65d5da5 [18:16:38] hmm, I was supposed to remove $result, not the whole return [18:16:44] ok, will write up an overall plan, but I doubt we can do very much to reduce the empty emails, though there are some things we could try, will create a page to consolidate the issues [18:16:45] FAIL [18:17:19] yuvipanda: what's your date for iOS market push ? [18:17:20] tfinc: sweet [18:17:24] tfinc: tomorrow [18:17:35] k [18:17:38] MaxSem: can you fix that right quick [18:18:07] tfinc: dark theme is going to be a little bit tricky, since our styles are coming directly from MobileFrontend [18:18:28] will write it up though. has someone already volunteered for it? [18:19:14] yuvipanda: were going to pass it onto a interview candidate who was a bit too junior. it'l be a good way of him getting his feet wet in our dev [18:19:26] tfinc: ah, sweet [18:20:12] MaxSem: never mind I'll do it [18:20:20] New patchset: MaxSem; "Fix token returning API that was broken by d752323263b9e40d12da9d60a5d478712f4ada98" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11891 [18:20:25] preilly, too late&& [18:20:35] preilly: pass me the rt tickets for geo hardware when you cut them [18:20:58] New review: preilly; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11891 [18:21:00] Change merged: preilly; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11891 [18:21:37] tfinc: I want to talk to Asher first [18:21:44] tfinc: then I'll get it to you [18:22:16] MaxSem: it's important that Change-Id: I64e9bcfead5f626d43a989533dc5110a69508b3f goes out today too [18:23:48] yuvipanda: do you have OTRS access ? [18:23:58] preilly: k [18:24:19] ticket #2012061810011395 [18:24:20] tfinc: no [18:24:29] let me forward it to you then [18:24:36] send [18:24:40] MaxSem: you can do the deployment in 15 minutes [18:24:46] no [18:24:48] MaxSem: I just talked to RobLa [18:24:55] MaxSem: he is okay with it [18:24:58] oh, good then [18:25:08] but why it's so urgent? [18:25:09] MaxSem: so can you prep the deployment branch [18:25:25] cuz token checks are disabled [18:25:26] MaxSem: because people are having issues in production [18:25:39] MaxSem: and we've got a fix for it [18:26:45] have the check for tokens been uncommented? [18:27:26] MaxSem: I don't think so [18:27:36] MaxSem: I'm mainly concerned with the toggle stuff [18:27:45] then there's no urgency regarding tokens [18:28:20] MaxSem: like I said I'm mainly concerned with the toggle stuff but it's silly to be making requests for tokens that are failing [18:29:51] preilly, https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11893 [18:30:28] MaxSem: are you doing wmf/1.20wmf5 now as well? [18:30:34] yup [18:32:19] gerrit is slowwwww these days [18:32:51] MaxSem: both are approved now [18:32:59] thanks [18:33:02] MaxSem: Status Merged [18:34:20] [WikipediaMobile] yuvipanda pushed 2 new commits to master: http://git.io/ntBMDw [18:34:20] [WikipediaMobile/master] Updated UA version number to be automatic. - YuviPanda [18:34:20] [WikipediaMobile/master] Bumped version number in UA for iOS - YuviPanda [18:35:52] yuvipanda: // This never actually happens. Trust me, I'm an engineer! [18:35:53] 1.2.1 out [18:35:57] yuvipanda: ha ha ha [18:36:07] preilly: :D [18:36:13] https://github.com/wikimedia/WikipediaMobile/compare/5dd0776b9506...7010c60c04fe#L4R23 [18:37:00] preilly: do you know what this was meant for https://github.com/wikimedia/limn ? [18:37:16] oh .. its analytics [18:38:22] let me ask david about it [18:38:28] preilly & jdlrobson: the update is live on testwiki, please test [18:38:38] MaxSem: doing so now [18:38:55] MaxSem: let me do that too! [18:39:35] tfinc: I've not got a clue [18:39:58] tfinc: but it's owned by Analytics [18:41:49] New review: preilly; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master); V: 1 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11890 [18:41:51] Change merged: preilly; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11890 [18:42:12] WFM on android 2.2, 2.6, WP7, Opera Mobile [18:42:16] just testing firefox.. [18:42:59] fennec also fixed [18:43:05] consider that confirmed [18:43:32] yuvipanda: preilly given that the dolphin guys are giving us really quick turn around times. lets move forward and stage the static assets [18:44:10] jdlrobson: what page are you using to test? [18:44:15] Test Sections [18:44:33] tfinc: okay let me double check with Asher as to what is the best location for it [18:44:37] l [18:44:37] k [18:44:44] jdlrobson: yup, works good [18:45:05] poke me when you have a definite yea for deployment [18:46:00] MaxSem: testing in iOS, gimme a few secs [18:49:22] MaxSem: good to go [18:50:40] MaxSem: make it so [18:50:54] hah! [18:52:53] gone [18:53:11] * MaxSem cautiously looks for traces of destruction [18:54:35] preilly: were you able to apply that patch? [18:57:22] yuvipanda: what patch? [18:59:49] preilly: the dolphin guys' one? [19:02:35] tfinc: http://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:--nl--_Twee_gelijkaardige_woningen_1340046101282.jpeg [19:02:43] uploaded via the app with a 'proper' workflow (almost) [19:06:39] yuvipanda: all hail our first wlm upload! [19:06:59] yuvipanda: you should have sent that as your desk photo [19:07:16] tfinc: it's the same place [19:07:20] tfinc: just less light [19:07:25] is more surreal without any lights [19:07:30] heh [19:07:39] philinje was convinced it was a basement [19:07:47] and someone else was convinced this is a bomb shelter [19:10:10] couldn't it be both? [19:11:04] tfinc: indeed! [19:11:41] tfinc: this place is ~80 years old, so has seen both world wars [19:11:54] except nobody mostly bombed here [19:11:58] yuvipanda: at least it has some kind of connectivity [19:12:13] yuvipanda: i'm looking forward to your checkins from the beach [19:12:46] tfinc: :D [19:13:05] tfinc: it's very literally 2 minutes away. verry wonderful [19:26:06] t/join #mediawiki [19:26:08] grr [19:51:57] hey all. i'm creating a design toolkit for wmf designers on github. would anyone mind adding me to the wikimedia org there? _brion? [19:59:38] Munaf: poke tfinc? [20:00:10] thanks, will do [20:00:36] Munaf: or Reedy [20:00:53] oh, actually no. [20:01:00] only tfinc or preilly can add people, I believe [20:01:47] gotcha [20:14:42] philinje: around? [20:15:17] MaxSem: I think something went wrong in deployment [20:15:26] ?? [20:15:26] toggling doesn't work at all now on WP7 but worked fine on test [20:15:32] same on opera mobile [20:15:37] * MaxSem kicks himself [20:15:37] can't expand at all [20:15:54] forgot to flush? [20:16:01] e.g. cache [20:17:55] MaxSem: ? [20:18:00] jdlrobson, tried cache-busting? [20:18:07] yess.. no effect [20:19:25] something very strange going on [20:19:40] may need to roll back that change [20:20:22] works fine on my local machine though... this is really odd [20:21:49] preilly: there? [20:23:52] adding debug=true fixes the problem [20:24:26] MaxSem: ^ [20:24:32] obviously [20:24:45] do you see your changes at https://bits.wikimedia.org/en.wikipedia.org/load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=mobile%7Cmobile.references&only=scripts&skin=mobile&version=1340044661&* [20:24:46] ? [20:25:13] no [20:25:40] window.wm_toggle_section=wm_toggle_section is still there [20:26:59] MaxSem: do you know how to fix? [20:29:15] hmm, Varnish purge, AGAIN? [20:29:39] can you do that or do I need to track someone down? [20:32:14] ^ MaxSem ? [20:32:46] no, this has to be someone from ops. check with preilly first though [20:32:52] k i'll ring him [20:34:40] he's not in the office right now.. I need to grab some lunch and will try to get hold of him again on the phone [20:39:08] * yuvipanda goes to sleep [20:39:10] gnite everyone! [20:42:47] MaxSem: you didn't sync correctly [20:43:00] ??? [20:43:14] fenari wasn't up-to-date [20:45:02] preilly, what was wrong in https://gist.github.com/2950606 ? [20:46:11] MaxSem: 213 cd extensions/MobileFrontend/ [20:46:18] MaxSem: you should git checkout master [20:46:23] MaxSem: then git pull [20:46:34] I even checked that the latest revision of MF has been pulled [20:47:12] I did it according to http://wikitech.wikimedia.org/view/How_to_deploy_code#Step_2:_get_the_code_on_fenari [20:47:37] MaxSem: well I looked at it was 8 commits behind [20:47:48] MaxSem: it worked fine after I did that [20:47:51] MaxSem: looks fixed.. [20:47:59] WTF [20:48:00] jdlrobson: it's fixed [20:48:07] sweet crisis over [20:48:14] MaxSem: you need to switch to master and pull [20:48:20] MaxSem: that is all that you missed [20:48:31] master of MobileFrontend that is [20:48:53] so why does the official manual doesn't work? [20:49:44] MaxSem: the documentation is correct just not complete for this use case [20:51:01] back [20:51:21] preilly, can you update the docs then? [20:53:01] MaxSem: I'll talk to Roan about it [20:53:53] thanks [20:56:00] MaxSem: np sorry for the hassle [21:00:23] jdlrobson: new machine will be here this week [21:00:27] i just verified it with chip [21:00:31] \o/ [21:00:40] so you'll soon be off of your broken laptop [21:01:22] Reedy: Crucial m4 256 is now $173 [21:01:33] these price drops are insane [21:01:58] :| [21:02:04] Bloody technology [21:02:30] i'm going to wait till it gets to $125 and then i'll replace the one in Tinas laptop [21:02:51] maybe by that time the 512 will drop to be the price of the current 256 [21:02:54] and i'll just buy that [21:04:15] that'd be sweet [21:17:55] preilly: Munaf wants to move https://github.com/munaf/agora under wikimedia but github requires admin rights on both ends to do that and is rejecting the move. i can see two options 1) temporarily give him admin 2) create a new repot and import the old one with change history … thoughts ? [21:19:18] tfinc: can't we just clone it? [21:20:05] i'm cool with that, or just initiating a new one under wikimedia. the change history in the current one isn't important - just setting up the boilerplate stuff. [21:21:49] tfinc, Munaf: done https://github.com/wikimedia/agora [21:21:55] great. [21:22:59] thanks preilly [21:24:07] Munaf: you should have read write access to https://github.com/wikimedia/agora now [21:24:18] eeexcellent [21:26:05] Munaf: can you fix the read me https://github.com/wikimedia/agora#readme [21:26:17] e.g., Clone this repository: git clone git@github.com:munaf/agora.git [21:26:21] yep [21:28:19] just pushed it [21:28:50] * tfinc starts watching wikimedia / agora [21:30:18] excellent :) fyi, agora = bootstrap for wmf [21:30:19] hopefully [21:30:25] if you are all familiar with twitter bootstrap [21:30:42] their simple to get started design toolkit ? [21:31:03] yup [21:31:12] it will initially be used by e3/e2 teams [21:34:24] any projects using it now? [21:34:41] nope, today is the kickoff [21:35:10] we are shooting for having something usable in a month [21:40:09] tfinc: we're in R7 if you wanna braindump. [21:40:29] you have enough cooks [21:40:57] maybe tomorrow if your still at it [21:43:45] we will be, but we move upstairs. [21:52:29] k [22:02:44] jorm: the ease of adding you to the agora repo is what gerrit needs to be able to do [22:03:13] New patchset: Jdlrobson; "allow user to switch site-wide language from the settings page" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/10452 [22:03:23] anything else is unnecessary busy work [22:21:38] that was pretty sexy, i agree. [22:33:58] jdlrobson: we have a line one https://twitter.com/paddy2k/status/214848261834551298 :D [22:34:19] live* [22:34:27] :) [22:34:47] do you want to reply or shall I? [22:41:34] tfinc: have we got a 'Join us page' for mobile? [22:41:42] Seems like such a page would be good for these situations... [22:42:08] jdlrobson: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mobile_Projects/Contribute [22:44:20] great I'll point him there tfinc [22:44:38] jdlrobson: scan it and see if it needs an update [22:44:43] its on meta as its not strictly for devs [22:44:44] already have [22:44:52] but feel free to move it to mw.org if that makes more sense [22:57:13] tfinc: seen http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/sharpcoder/appregator-the-mobile-developer-reporting-tool?ref=category ? [23:12:59] Reedy: cool [23:13:30] one worry though is that this tool is bound to the data that's available in an app store [23:13:33] google play is great [23:13:37] iTunes connect is crap [23:19:01] Reedy: i'm eager to see where this one goes http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1986127174/designing-an-affordable-and-beautiful-raspberry-pi?ref=friends_backed [23:19:17] Haha, yes [23:19:22] I just backed that one [23:19:33] my pi was apparently despatched today [23:21:43] i wouldn't call it beautiful but you have to start somewhere [23:21:54] New patchset: Jdlrobson; "detect Maemo browser (bug 37526)" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11962 [23:22:36] I love that we have 3D printers these days [23:24:18] jdlrobson: so are we now flat out relying on jQuery? [23:24:49] jdlrobson: e.g., like in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/10452/6/javascripts/application.js [23:25:08] noo.. so all that does is say if jQuery is available [23:25:20] jdlrobson: I know what that line does [23:29:42] New patchset: Jdlrobson; "allow user to switch site-wide language from the settings page" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/10452 [23:34:13] MaxSem: your hiring packet is going out for approval now :D [23:34:43] sehr gut [23:34:46] thanks:) [23:37:19] preilly: were coming down to the wire for the dolphin guys. whats the status of getting the static assets up ? [23:40:03] New patchset: Jdlrobson; "serve mobile site to mobile browsers based on user agent (bug 36894)" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/11569 [23:44:38] tfinc: we are talking about it now [23:44:57] their going to want it by tomorrow so we need to get them a response tonight