[00:40:34] <philinje>	 Wiktionary, WIkinews and Wikisource now show the mobile view from mobile devices (except tablets) - mobile-feedback-l at wikimedia dot org
[00:40:57] <tfinc>	 hmm
[00:42:07] <tfinc>	 preilly: does twitter do anything sane for posting email address inside a tweet?
[00:42:16] <tfinc>	 preilly: so that they don't look like another user
[00:58:03] <tfinc>	 Reedy: just as we've been seeing http://techreport.com/articles.x/23149
[14:02:17] <Amgine>	 Hm. Where's that page on how to write a main page for Mobile Frontend?
[14:14:00] <Amgine>	 preilly: Where should I send wiktionaries who want to fix their main page?
[14:31:37] <Amgine>	 Also: how will this (global user js/css) affect MF? https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/7274/
[14:39:30] <MaxSem>	 Amgine, http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mobile_Projects/Mobile_Gateway#Mobile_homepage
[14:39:45] <Amgine>	 <clicks>
[14:40:44] <Amgine>	 Yes. That page is not at all intuitively titled. <scatters a couple redirs>
[14:43:02] <Amgine>	 Also, now that you gave me that one, [[Mobile Projects/Mobile Gateway/Mobile homepage formatting]]
[16:41:05] <yuvipanda>	 jdlrobson: that hat that looked like a cactus - was it *meant* to look like one?
[16:42:11] <jdlrobson>	 i'm wearing it again today
[16:42:17] <jdlrobson>	 no it's just a green beanie hat :)
[16:42:41] <jdlrobson>	 so it's my 20% day today but I want to sort out that ios 5.1 bug
[16:42:42] <yuvipanda>	 jdlrobson: am I the only one who thinks it looks like a cactus?
[16:42:51] <jdlrobson>	 so far yuvipanda yes :)
[16:43:01] <yuvipanda>	 heh :)
[16:43:03] <jdlrobson>	 ios 5.1 doesn't use iscroll right?
[16:43:06] <yuvipanda>	 jdlrobson: nope
[16:43:10] <yuvipanda>	 no iScroll
[16:43:53] <yuvipanda>	 jdlrobson: this 'fix' was 'discovered' when I found that about page doesn't scroll, while everything else does. Looked for what differs, and found that changig the order in which things were hidden and shown 'fixes' things
[16:44:13] <jdlrobson>	 yeh but I want a logical reason why this is happening
[16:44:17] <jdlrobson>	 this is happening too much :)
[16:45:01] <yuvipanda>	 jdlrobson: yeah, true that.
[16:45:24] <yuvipanda>	 jdlrobson: the 'root cause' might be somewhere deep in the bowels of webkit :P
[16:45:44] <jdlrobson-shinym>	 if(navigator.userAgent.match(/OS 4/)) {
[16:45:57] <jdlrobson-shinym>	 that matches iOS 5 right?
[16:46:02] <yuvipanda>	 jdlrobson: no?
[16:46:03] <jdlrobson-shinym>	 iphone 5\
[16:46:14] <yuvipanda>	 there is no iPhone 5
[16:46:22] <jdlrobson-shinym>	 lola getting confused again
[16:46:30] <jdlrobson-shinym>	 so the problem is on iOS 5.1 right?
[16:46:34] <yuvipanda>	 jdlrobson: yes
[16:46:45] <jdlrobson-shinym>	 chrome.setupScrolling only gets added on iOS 4
[16:46:55] <jdlrobson-shinym>	 so therefore iOS 5.1 doesn't use iscroll?
[16:47:06] <yuvipanda>	 jdlrobson: yes
[16:47:10] <yuvipanda>	 it doesn't use iScroll
[16:47:13] <yuvipanda>	 iscroll is only 4.x
[16:47:14] <jdlrobson-shinym>	 ok
[16:47:41] <jdlrobson-shinym>	 so how does scrolling on the #content element work in iOS 5.1 ?
[16:48:05] <yuvipanda>	 jdlrobson: -webkit-overflow-scrolling: touch
[16:48:34] <yuvipanda>	 jdlrobson: see app.css, styles for .scroller
[16:50:07] <jdlrobson-shinym>	 so yuvipanda do you have a physical iOS 5.1 device?
[16:50:19] <yuvipanda>	 jdlrobson: yup!
[16:52:09] <yuvipanda>	 jdlrobson: the problem might also be in 5.x - I don't have a physical 5.x device to test on
[16:53:08] <jdlrobson>	 k
[16:53:18] <jdlrobson>	 hopefully I'll get a chance today to look at it
[16:53:41] <yuvipanda>	 jdlrobson: any chance you'll let this get merged so it can go to market today? :)
[16:56:22] <jdlrobson>	 yuvipanda: do we use css visibility anywhere?
[16:58:29] <yuvipanda>	 jdlrobson: yes - it is being used to 'hide' the 'clearSearch' button
[16:58:29] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda: MaxSem https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/50e1e4a2c3c9d683e3d1c1885a65846c05ac0fd7?authuser=1&hl=en
[16:58:31] <yuvipanda>	 should be taken out
[16:58:44] <yuvipanda>	 jdlrobson: but that is inside the searchbar, think it might be causing this?
[16:58:55] <jdlrobson>	 so yuvipanda http://www.webarnes.ca/2012/04/mobile-safari-bugs-so-far/ reports this problem " It also does not work if the scrolling DIV is contained in an element that was previously visibility-hidden"
[16:59:54] <jdlrobson>	 another thought that yuvipanda is just to use iscroll on ios 5.1 ..
[16:59:55] <yuvipanda>	 jdlrobson: hmm, #content never is set visiblity (just grepped)
[17:00:05] <yuvipanda>	 jdlrobson: iScroll is slower...
[17:00:10] <jdlrobson>	 does jQuery show or hide visibility?
[17:00:11] <yuvipanda>	 plus we *do* have a mysterious working workaround
[17:00:23] <yuvipanda>	 jdlrobson: yeah, looking at jquery source now for that...
[17:00:34] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda: MaxSem --^
[17:00:51] <jdlrobson>	 but the workaround yuvipanda is just to never display:none #content right?
[17:00:57] <jdlrobson>	 brb standup
[17:01:16] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda: joining us ?
[17:01:28] <yuvipanda>	 yup!
[17:02:10] <yuvipanda>	 my default browser instance still hates this, so incognito + logging in
[17:08:37] <MaxSem>	 eww, the sound from SF was flaky today
[17:09:10] <MaxSem>	 it had interruptions and periods of reduced volume
[17:11:18] <preilly>	 MaxSem: interesting it was the same set-up we typically use
[17:11:48] <MaxSem>	 contact issues?
[17:26:27] <jdlrobson>	 so yuvipanda find anything interesting in the jQuery source/
[17:27:55] <yuvipanda>	 jdlrobson: yep
[17:27:56] <yuvipanda>	 uses display
[17:27:58] <yuvipanda>	 not visibility
[17:27:58] <yuvipanda>	 http://james.padolsey.com/jquery/#v=1.6.2&fn=jQuery.fn.hide
[17:28:05] <yuvipanda>	 (nice website, that one)
[17:28:43] <jdlrobson>	 so I have another theory
[17:29:01] <jdlrobson>	 out of interest can you try adding a really high z-index after hiding the element
[17:29:03] <preilly>	 philinje: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ApiSandbox#action=query&prop=revisions&format=json&rvprop=user&rvlimit=10&titles=Petrified_Forest_National_Park
[17:29:17] <jdlrobson>	 I wonder if some element is over it that prevents touch events from registering
[17:29:32] <yuvipanda>	 jdlrobson: hmm, let me test that.
[17:30:43] <jdlrobson>	 note we have some ridiculously high z-indexs in app.css :)
[17:31:02] <yuvipanda>	 jdlrobson: we do :D
[17:31:03] <yuvipanda>	 jdlrobson: testing
[17:34:58] <jdlrobson-shinym>	 also try adjusting the rule in app.css for .scroller > * { to use -webkit-transform: translate3d(0, 0, 0); instead of -webkit-transform: translateZ(0px);
[17:35:06] <jdlrobson-shinym>	 and remove .scroller -webkit-transform: translate3d(0, 0, 0);
[17:35:20] <jdlrobson-shinym>	 found a report where someone said applying the transform to the scroller itself can break it
[17:35:32] <philinje>	 preilly: thanks
[17:40:02] <yuvipanda>	 jdlrobson: z-index has no effect
[17:40:14] <yuvipanda>	 investigating translate
[17:52:26] <tfinc>	 it's times like this that i love not having central notice on mobile
[17:52:45] <tfinc>	 for this just would make me screem http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page?usebanner=B12_061522_GreenButtonTall
[17:53:11] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: I don't see anything?
[17:53:30] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda: you don't see a giant blue banner at the top of your screen?
[17:53:40] <tfinc>	 if you've dismissed banners within their time window then it might not show
[17:53:44] <tfinc>	 be happy that you don't
[17:53:55] <yuvipanda>	 i tried incognito, doesn't show
[17:53:59] <tfinc>	 although the use banner should avoid the cookie
[17:54:27] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda: are you logged it? its anon only
[17:54:36] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: not logged in on incognito
[17:54:54] * yuvipanda  tries different browser

[17:55:07] <yuvipanda>	 nothing on safari either
[17:55:11] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: geotarded perhaps?
[17:55:14] <tfinc>	 then i'm out of ideas. its an obnoxious blue banner that loads above your page
[17:55:15] <tfinc>	 yes
[17:55:16] <tfinc>	 USA
[17:55:27] <yuvipanda>	 explains it :)
[17:55:39] <tfinc>	 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page?usebanner=B12_061522_GreenButtonTall&country=us
[17:56:20] <yuvipanda>	 wow
[17:56:26] <yuvipanda>	 it is green, rather than blue
[17:56:27] <yuvipanda>	 but still
[17:56:39] <yuvipanda>	 ah now it is blue
[17:57:25] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: fundraiser started already?
[17:58:59] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda: this is part of their normal testing
[17:59:07] <tfinc>	 we just happened to see it as its in the us
[17:59:31] <yuvipanda>	 heh
[18:00:18] <tfinc>	 as ben put it. testing is good. lets test better things
[18:13:44] <yuvipanda>	 jdlrobson: and the translate3D had no effect either
[18:20:49] <tfinc>	 preilly: what do we need to do besides scheduling ashers time for next mobile default sibling move ?
[18:23:23] <preilly>	 tfinc: nothing
[18:23:27] <tfinc>	 preilly: i'm reading through http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MobileFrontend/Dynamic_Sections and want to compare its gains to your blog post. where can i see your draft ?
[18:23:28] <tfinc>	 preilly: k
[18:23:34] <preilly>	 tfinc: besides testing
[18:23:44] <tfinc>	 preilly: will we need to do another one box test?
[18:23:52] <preilly>	 tfinc: yes
[18:24:06] <tfinc>	 i want arthur to shepherd this one but he's not back till july 2nd
[18:25:05] <tfinc>	 is the test just a request to ops or do we have to do anything ?
[18:25:08] <preilly>	 tfinc: I just have the this written thus far http://blog.wikimedia.org/wp-admin/post.php?post=15426&action=edit
[18:25:34] <preilly>	 tfinc: yes using curl to test for 302 responses is all
[18:26:02] <preilly>	 tfinc: the one box test is ops installing the redirector on one squid
[18:26:10] <tfinc>	 preilly: thats an ok start but it needs our real world success stories
[18:26:40] <tfinc>	 is that email or rt to get them to set it up ?
[18:27:49] <preilly>	 tfinc: I've been just talking to Asher directly about it
[18:28:05] <tfinc>	 so a heads up email should be enough
[18:28:11] <preilly>	 tfinc: I understand that it needs our real world success stories
[18:28:21] <preilly>	 tfinc: yes a heads up email should be enough
[18:31:22] <tfinc>	 jdlrobson: http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=MobileFrontend%2FDynamic_Sections&diff=553766&oldid=553748
[18:31:41] <tfinc>	 philinje: --^ this gets us the best of both worlds
[18:32:27] <preilly>	 tfinc: is your internet connection slow today?
[18:32:37] <tfinc>	 working just fine
[18:32:48] <preilly>	 tfinc: hmm mine is painfully slow
[18:33:01] <tfinc>	 preilly: are you connected to a different access point ?
[18:33:08] <tfinc>	 one that isn't local to our part of the floor
[18:33:19] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: I've a half-finished implementation for the app that does *exactly* what you mentioned in that diff. Let me see if I can put some time into that during the weekend
[18:34:19] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda: excellent. when we get both fast initial load and async section load users will be really happy
[18:34:31] <tfinc>	 the wont notice it but pages will load exceptionally fast
[18:35:20] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: true that! I had done this a few weeks back, and we hit a problem with the references not being available. MaxSem added an API feature to make that available, so no technical blockers.
[18:35:23] <yuvipanda>	 hey jrobson
[18:35:51] <yuvipanda>	 jrobson: neither z=index nor translate had anything
[18:36:36] <jrobson>	 booo
[18:36:47] <jrobson>	 sorry I thought irc was open but it wasn't
[18:36:54] <jrobson>	 mm
[18:37:49] <jrobson>	 oak try something else.. after $("#content").show(); do .css("-webkit-overflow-scroll", "touch")
[18:38:00] <jrobson>	 ie. reapply it
[18:39:53] <yuvipanda>	 trying
[18:41:40] <yuvipanda>	 jdlrobson: no effects
[18:43:11] <jrobson>	 mm yuvipanda mm
[18:43:27] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: any luck re: testers?
[18:44:35] <jrobson>	 ok yuvipanda try putting position: relative on #main
[18:47:36] <jrobson>	 yuvipanda: I wonder if this is related - https://lists.webkit.org/pipermail/webkit-unassigned/2011-August/359730.html (although this specifies an iframe)
[18:48:39] <yuvipanda>	 jdlrobson: trying
[18:48:58] <yuvipanda>	 jdlrobson: also, we were using iFrames in the app when I first started on it. Horrible level of horribleness...
[18:49:27] <jrobson>	 http://forrst.com/posts/iOS_scrolling_issue_solved-rgX
[18:49:31] <yuvipanda>	 jdlrobson: position: relative kills scrolling everywhere :D
[18:49:34] <jrobson>	 use scrollTop !
[18:50:02] <yuvipanda>	 wtf
[18:50:25] <yuvipanda>	 jdlrobson: position: relative on #main has no effect
[18:50:44] <jrobson>	 k I'm interesting in the scrollTop thing
[18:50:48] <jrobson>	 *interested
[18:50:56] <yuvipanda>	 yeah, am trying it out
[18:51:11] <jrobson>	 and also another suggestion I've seen is after $("#content").show(); do .css({"-webkit-overflow-scroll", "touch", overflow: "scroll" })
[18:51:15] <jrobson>	 e.g. set overflow as well
[18:51:58] <yuvipanda>	 jdlrobson: scrollTop does the trick :D
[18:59:12] <jrobson>	 haha
[18:59:17] <jrobson>	 so yuvipanda
[18:59:43] <jrobson>	 let's create a showContent event instead of doing $("#content").show
[18:59:55] <jrobson>	 and lets link to that in the code so we have a reference point
[19:00:04] <jrobson>	 *showContent function
[19:00:31] <jrobson>	 yuvipanda: and also a corresponding hideContent
[19:00:38] <jrobson>	 we might even want to patch jQuery show / hide
[19:00:42] <jrobson>	 could be a query bug there
[19:00:53] <yuvipanda>	 jdlrobson: ?
[19:00:57] <jrobson>	 jQuery bug sorry
[19:01:04] <yuvipanda>	 jdlrobson: jQuery show/hide does only display
[19:01:15] <yuvipanda>	 jdlrobson: this is a bug in webkit.
[19:01:41] <yuvipanda>	 jdlrobson: and why 'showContent' event? There's already a 'showContent' function - the problem here is that in this particular case, we want to show the main header but not the content
[19:01:50] <jrobson>	 I meant showContent function sorry
[19:01:54] <yuvipanda>	 jdlrobson: pages using showContent() didn't have this probelm
[19:01:56] <yuvipanda>	 *problem
[19:02:00] <jrobson>	 mm
[19:02:19] <yuvipanda>	 chrome has showContent
[19:02:28] <yuvipanda>	 this is the only place where we area ctually doing this 'raw'
[19:02:36] <jrobson>	 Yeh I'm not sure what the criteria is for jQuery to cover a glitch like this - show/hide is obviously broken for elements with -webkit-overflow-scroll - would be good to create a MTC
[19:03:14] <yuvipanda>	 jdlrobson: ah, yes!
[19:03:44] <yuvipanda>	 but i'm unsure if this is worth the additional checking effort for every element that isn't -webkit-overflow-scroll
[19:03:47] <yuvipanda>	 *doesn't have
[19:04:10] <jrobson>	 yeh sure but would be good to create a bug in jquery and webkit so at least other people have a reference if they encounter this problem
[19:04:20] <jrobson>	 so lets fix up the app and get it out and then create a MTC
[19:04:40] <jrobson>	 I'm assuming the issue will also be present in a browser
[19:05:57] <yuvipanda>	 jdlrobson: https://github.com/wikimedia/WikipediaMobile/pull/260
[19:06:49] <yuvipanda>	 jdlrobson: how did you hit upon http://forrst.com/posts/iOS_scrolling_issue_solved-rgX? A matter of having google-fu?
[19:06:54] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: preilly; "(no comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12270
[19:06:54] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: preilly; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/12270
[19:14:16] <jrobson>	 yuvipanda: feel free to merge that
[19:14:22] <jrobson>	 I'd prefer not to context switch
[19:14:25] <jrobson>	 I trust you on this  :)
[19:14:47] <jrobson>	 do we use $("#content").show(); anywhere else in the code base?
[19:15:38] <yuvipanda>	 jdlrobson: grep says no
[19:16:13] <jrobson>	 yuvipanda: I searched for "-webkit-overflow-scrolling: touch" "when hiding"
[19:16:16] <jrobson>	 apparently
[19:16:33] <wikipedia-github>	 [WikipediaMobile] yuvipanda pushed 2 new commits to master: http://git.io/bccKTQ
[19:16:33] <wikipedia-github>	 [WikipediaMobile/master] Make pages scroll properly on iOS 5.x when viewed from nearby - YuviPanda
[19:16:33] <wikipedia-github>	 [WikipediaMobile/master] Merge pull request #260 from yuvipanda/fix-no-scrolling-from-nearby - Yuvi Panda
[19:21:51] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: any luck finding willing testers?
[19:24:00] <yuvipanda>	 i'd hopefully push this out for review at least today
[19:27:20] <tfinc>	 i'm asking around
[19:28:06] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: thanks!
[19:29:23] <tfinc>	 peter genres is in. sending him the test list now
[19:30:17] <yuvipanda>	 sweet
[19:45:42] <yuvipanda>	 heh, upgrade testing's quite a bore
[20:04:31] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda: feedback sent to  you
[20:08:22] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: yup, looks good
[20:10:00] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda: james alexander is testing as well
[20:11:29] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: sweet!
[20:11:41] <yuvipanda>	 i'll run through 5.1 for 10 mins more, then do a few rounds on 4.2
[20:11:45] <tfinc>	 k
[20:40:35] <wikipedia-github>	 [WikipediaMobile] yuvipanda pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/E4fk0A
[20:40:35] <wikipedia-github>	 [WikipediaMobile/master] Fix intermittent search scrolling issue in iOS 5.x - YuviPanda
[20:49:38] <tfinc>	 preilly: https://rt.wikimedia.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=2996 is the rt ticket for the new .m domains
[20:49:40] <tfinc>	 still open
[21:01:09] <preilly>	 tfinc: should we ping CT about it?
[21:01:21] <tfinc>	 preilly: i'm already talking to him about it
[21:01:34] <preilly>	 tfinc: okay
[21:01:55] <tfinc>	 philinje: if elka isn't available can we find someone else to showcase the app?
[21:01:59] <tfinc>	 perhaps maarten ?
[21:09:02] <philinje>	 maarten is harder to reach than Elke
[21:09:29] <yuvipanda>	 IIRC multichill is sortof on vacation?
[21:09:49] <philinje>	 really? i'll just set the time and date - 11am on June 28, and propose that
[21:10:14] <yuvipanda>	 he mentioned that in email a while back, might have been done
[21:11:21] <philinje>	 yuvi, does that time work for you?
[21:12:30] <yuvipanda>	 philinje: yup!
[21:12:53] <philinje>	 cool
[22:09:56] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: send the app out to apple now?
[22:24:37] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda: you can do it now ;)
[22:24:49] <yuvipanda>	 alrighty! :)
[22:31:22] <yuvipanda>	 wah that process looks daunting
[22:31:29] <yuvipanda>	 with the amount of paperwork
[22:31:36] <yuvipanda>	 (code-signing work, that is)
[22:32:38] <tfinc>	 make sure you sign it with the right key
[22:34:58] <yuvipanda>	 yes, RTFMing
[22:35:11] <Amgine>	 In triplicate, in blood...
[22:38:10] <yuvipanda>	 Amgine: facing the west, exactly at dawn, sacrificing your pet iguana...
[22:40:33] <Amgine>	 yuvipanda: exactly at dawn *in Cupertino, CA, USA*
[22:42:25] <yuvipanda>	 Amgine: while a particularly shaped shadow falls upon a particular table?
[22:42:43] <Amgine>	 ooo, I dunno... try it both ways.
[22:43:29] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: I apparently 'do not have access' to the iOS Dev Center?
[22:43:58] <yuvipanda>	 oh
[22:44:00] <yuvipanda>	 nevermind
[22:44:06] <yuvipanda>	 redirect bug on apple's side
[22:46:30] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: is iOS Team Provisioning Profile the one you use when submitting apps to the app store?
[22:46:37] <yuvipanda>	 or something else?
[22:47:37] <yuvipanda>	 apparently I need to have a profile that has 'app store' as distribution method,
[22:47:43] <yuvipanda>	 but I don't see that info anywhere
[22:52:05] <yuvipanda>	 and I don't have rights to create provisioning certificates on iOS Dev Center
[22:52:17] * yuvipanda  pokes tfinc 

[22:53:51] <tfinc>	 no
[22:53:56] <tfinc>	 we use the distro cert
[22:54:00] <tfinc>	 do you see it?
[22:54:04] <tfinc>	 if not i can send it to you
[22:54:12] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: i don't see it
[22:54:12] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda: --^
[22:54:28] <yuvipanda>	 I see 'dev' and 'team provisioning'
[22:54:38] <tfinc>	 sending it to you now
[22:55:37] <yuvipanda>	 okay!
[22:56:32] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda: sent
[22:58:07] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: only the private key 'wikimedia foundation' can sign it.
[22:58:10] <yuvipanda>	 i don't have perms for that
[23:04:08] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: any luck?
[23:04:22] <tfinc>	 ugh ok
[23:04:29] <tfinc>	 well .. why don't i just sent it then
[23:04:40] <tfinc>	 send*
[23:04:43] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: okay!
[23:04:45] <yuvipanda>	 :(
[23:04:49] <tfinc>	 that'll save you from having to deal with this pain
[23:04:54] <wikipedia-github>	 [WikipediaMobile] yuvipanda pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/arGgiA
[23:04:54] <wikipedia-github>	 [WikipediaMobile/master] Remove animation for scroll to top in iOS 4.x - YuviPanda
[23:05:03] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda: which commit should i pull up to ?
[23:05:22] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: bc1786145afb93d8f4728d020a72657467f7b3e3
[23:06:10] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda: got it
[23:06:20] <tfinc>	 and since i was the one that caught the breakage … it'll be quick to know wether its still there
[23:06:26] <tfinc>	 plus its great to get 1.7 out
[23:06:26] <tfinc>	 :D
[23:06:30] <yuvipanda>	 linSmith: yup!
[23:06:31] <yuvipanda>	 err
[23:06:34] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: yup!
[23:06:36] <tfinc>	 i'll submit it later today after the visual editor celebration
[23:06:45] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: alright. I might not be around.
[23:07:00] <tfinc>	 thats fine. you've done a great job this week and should enjoy your time
[23:07:03] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: plus I think we can push out a 1.3 alpha to android on Monday!
[23:07:05] <tfinc>	 i'll mail you if anything comes up
[23:07:12] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: sure!
[23:07:17] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda: is 1.3 anything more then 1.7 phone gap ?
[23:07:33] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda: how are we looking for thew WLM showcase?
[23:07:36] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: I've volunteered to run WLM in India with a bunch of people, so weekend will be spent on wiki :)
[23:07:42] <tfinc>	 did you get all the graphic assets you needed ?
[23:07:46] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: linSmith sent me the styleguide, so am working on that now
[23:07:48] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: yup, did!
[23:08:04] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda: does that mean you'll be beta testing our app in India for WLM ?
[23:08:07] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: she didn't update the design to figure out where to put monument search though, so that's one blocker (functionality has landed)
[23:08:17] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: well, not yet - there are lists to compile, etc before that.
[23:08:20] <tfinc>	 philinje: --^
[23:08:22] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: but yes, eventually I hope to! :D
[23:08:25] <tfinc>	 woot
[23:08:30] <tfinc>	 nothing better then eating our own dog food
[23:08:38] <yuvipanda>	 true that! :)
[23:08:40] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda: btw .. i still can't believe that your going back to scool
[23:08:46] <tfinc>	 say it aint so
[23:08:46] <tfinc>	 ;)
[23:08:57] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: 1.3 would be 1.7 and dynamic sections.
[23:09:04] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda: nice
[23:09:16] <tfinc>	 "    Technically nicer looking, but actually does slow us down." ?
[23:09:18] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: I think I'm blocking it out of my head for now :P Wait for the second day of college for me to start cribbing :P
[23:09:31] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: it was animating the 'scroll to top'
[23:09:39] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: which was slowing things down by about 500ms on iOS
[23:09:51] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: and it was jittery-ish, so turned it off
[23:10:23] <tfinc>	 so were including a fix that slows us down ?
[23:10:45] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: no, the animation was technically nicer looking, but actually does slow us down, so the commit killed it
[23:10:59] <yuvipanda>	 the comment was about the animation, rather than th commit
[23:11:01] <tfinc>	 ahh
[23:11:10] <tfinc>	 that makes more sense. it wasn't clear from the message
[23:11:11] <tfinc>	 got it
[23:12:15] <tfinc>	 ok … time to congratulate the visual editor team. yuvipanda let me know if there is anything else you need before you crash
[23:12:16] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: i'll be in college for a week, will then join back up for WikiMania anyway :)
[23:12:24] <tfinc>	 good
[23:12:27] <tfinc>	 we'll hack there
[23:12:27] <tfinc>	 :)
[23:12:30] <yuvipanda>	 true
[23:12:44] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: pass on backslaps from me too! awesome job, etc :)