[00:00:27] tfinc: http://i.imgur.com/CYglv.png [00:02:40] philinje: do we have any media that we could include in the api blog post ? [00:05:21] tfinc: what about something simple like http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c9/Gears_and_Stuff.png [00:06:05] philinje: Google groups? [00:07:35] i'd love to see the perf graphs as well but if we don't have them i dont want to hold it up [00:10:12] awjr: hey, are you able to talk? I am thinking through a db-related issue [00:11:51] philinje im pretty focussed on what im working on atm, can it wait until tomorrow or monday? [00:14:27] awjr: Are you going to the hackathon in dc? [00:14:34] multichill: nope [00:14:54] Did you see my email? Should answer most of your questions [00:15:13] mulichill = maarten? [00:15:24] er multichill ^ [00:15:24] jeez i can't type today [00:15:27] multichill ^ [00:15:30] awjr = Arthur? ;-) [00:15:30] yes [00:15:33] yes :) [00:15:52] yeah i saw your email, i haven't read it closely yet [00:16:10] thanks for the response [00:17:04] If you have more questions, just send emails. I won't be online a lot, but I do read my email [00:17:13] ok cool, thanks multichill [00:17:48] * multichill is getting unplugged [00:17:51] Time for food! [00:18:49] multichill: thanks [00:19:24] copying you on a different issue [00:20:06] Don't forget elke ;-) [00:20:34] it's to Elke, but copying you - i think she can answer this [00:21:36] Later [00:27:46] jrobson do you have strong feelings about use displayError() for the login errors? it seems like displayError() is more intended for internal errors, at least based on the language im seeing in the popup. displaying login error messages below the login form actually looks better to me, imho [00:28:21] mmm.. I guess I imagined that displayError might become a generic consistent way of displaying errors [00:28:27] the text area is only a temporary thing [00:28:37] it wouldn't get to production [00:28:58] roger [00:29:06] So in a production version it would just have an error message with something then went wrong - e.g. 'looks like you gave us the wrong password' [00:29:24] So I guess I have strong feelings on consistency [00:29:43] makes sense [00:29:48] For instance on a bad password we might highlight the password box and show the error overlay [00:30:08] clicking back would show them the login screen again with the highlight confirming to the user where the problem lies [00:30:21] I'm sure linSmith might have thoughts when we get to a more stable stage [00:30:36] anyway I'm heading off now.. I lost track of time and need to go to a hat shop.. [00:30:38] ;-) [00:30:40] yeah ok that makes sense [00:30:46] hasta pronto [00:44:05] anybody know where TOmasz is? [00:44:21] philinje: I think that he is in a meeting [00:44:35] he's not online anymore [01:15:38] preilly: any issues with todays sibling switch over. I see that all thie en.* are working great [01:15:52] tfinc: nope [01:16:20] preilly: what if any blockers do we have for "Launch remaining *.wikimedia.org projects that are hosted on WMF cluster (19 July, 2012)" ? [01:16:27] i wont be around for this one [01:17:47] tfinc: I think we are good on that front as well [01:18:03] philinje: did we get any useful feedback for the phase2 sibling project moves ? [01:20:04] haven't seen any, can look around tomorrow [01:20:42] philinje: thanks. lets prep the next batch for the move. thankfully we only have one language to worry about [01:20:47] as its all en [01:21:00] ok [01:48:08] Change merged: preilly; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14409 [05:08:22] * yuvipanda looks around [05:08:52] looks up, looks up, and looks down. [05:27:00] Amgine: you're one more 'look down' due [05:27:26] time to go pay fees, sadly. [05:27:28] * yuvipanda goes off [05:27:49] actually it was a terrible paraphrase of an awful pop song: Jump Around. [06:35:58] New review: Krinkle; "Adding common.css without common.js sounds broken to me. Users can't depend on anything that way. Th..." [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14419 [10:17:05] New review: MaxSem; "@Krinkle: there's no way any nontrivial Common.js is gonna work on mobile site as it has no 'mediawi..." [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14419 [16:58:39] awjr, MaxSem: We are going to be starting the stand-up in a few minutes [16:58:56] No Tomasz? [16:59:10] MaxSem: He is here just setting up now [16:59:43] groovy [17:00:57] greetings all [17:01:06] awjr: MaxSem https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/ecb6d3adcaec11314743d5f4781e39d47dd1c3e3?hl=en [17:02:00] awjr: just lost you [17:02:18] yeah for some reason google hangouts dont work very well in chrome for me... [17:02:20] awjr: rejoining? [17:02:24] yep [17:06:37] hey preilly, quick question, if the ip address ranges for wikipedia zero are commented out does that mean that wikipedia zero is not running for those carriers? [17:12:55] i find it rather strange when google products work better in firefox than in chrome [17:14:35] speaking of yesterday's load testing: http://munin.toolserver.org/Database/adenia/index.html#system [17:15:13] it's system load on the DB server - the highest peak is my attack [17:15:51] of course, it was pretty loaded before, but wit my test it was almost maxed out [17:19:19] MaxSem: now that we have awjr back i've asked him to help out with the wlm db move. he'll be an extra pair of hands for you and will help with a ops coordination [17:22:45] cool! [17:26:55] :D [17:31:41] tfinc, philinje: is preilly around? [17:32:27] drdee_: he is [17:32:58] tfinc thanks, [17:33:02] preilly, quick question, if the ip address ranges for wikipedia zero are commented out does that mean that wikipedia zero is not running for those carriers? [17:33:29] (commented out in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=operations/puppet.git;a=blob;f=templates/varnish/mobile-frontend.inc.vcl.erb;h=3f2f0dd2d8101bab556267b63f028bd719af9779;hb=891b49bfd2046a5469bbb7b054fe6c03f3be59e7) [17:33:47] drdee_: yes [17:38:28] awjr: you've got competition http://i.imgur.com/4B3e8.jpg [17:38:41] damn. [17:39:01] what is that in his beard? a miniature x-wing fighter? [17:39:20] i wish i was cool enough to be able to grow facial hair like that. [17:40:25] awjr: it makes me do this: http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lfqh5ixxqi1qe0eclo1_r5_500.gif [17:40:45] lol [17:41:13] i think thats cthulu in his beard [17:54:41] hi pchang_ - got a moment? [17:54:54] hi [17:55:47] pchang_: could use your help selecting a few items from https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_engineering_report/2012/June#Mobile to highlight in the WMF monthly report [17:56:01] ok [17:56:02] pchang_: so far: [17:56:05] "The mobile team developed and showcased a first version of a [[mw:Wiki Loves Monuments mobile application]], released [https://blog.wikimedia.org/2012/06/19/announcing-the-official-wiktionary-android-app/ the official Wiktionary Android app], and polished or released new versions of [[mw:Wikimedia Apps|Wikipedia applications for Android and iOS]]. They also [[mw:Mobile default for sibling projects|prepared the sibling projects to become "m [17:56:05] obile default]], and ...." [17:56:27] pchang_: example: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Report,_May_2012#Mobile_Engineering [17:56:45] the Wiktionary App was developed by volunteer students [17:56:52] yeah [17:56:56] but we released it [17:56:59] but I take your point [17:57:05] * sumanah adds clarification [17:57:14] I erred on the side of concision but it's ok to expand [18:09:47] tfinc: hi :) Dropped you an email with Timo and I github accounts (respectively: krinkle , hashar ) ;) [18:23:54] * yuvipanda looks around [18:24:17] hi tfinc [18:24:17] * yuvipanda notes he's on a high lag connection [18:24:45] the latency is high enough for this to be useless :| [18:25:07] :/ [18:25:30] ah, looks like it's fine :) [18:25:35] tfinc: iOS 3.2 out? [18:26:00] hey sumanah! Sorry if that was spammy [18:26:06] what? no [18:26:13] I was just sad for you [18:26:17] aah, yes [18:26:35] sumanah: well, I just moved in to a new place for myself yesterday, and am on mobile data for now [18:26:42] sumanah: lag seems usable as long as i'm on the balcony [18:26:46] heh [18:26:49] watch out for monkeys [18:26:53] who want good data connections [18:26:55] sumanah: it's about a 100m from the beach, so all is good :) [18:27:01] "ook ook argh dropped" [18:27:01] sumanah: i'd be one of those monkeys :P [18:27:03] haha [18:27:16] here it's more like mosquitoes [18:27:27] 'in ur shared wifi, leechin ur data (n ur blood!)' [18:29:22] it's a wonder that after Arun's place and here, I do not have dengu/malaria yet :) [18:29:22] ha [18:29:23] * yuvipanda ventures inside, hopes for stable connectivity [18:29:53] iirc there are cell signal boosters available. [18:30:25] Amgine: true but i'd rather just get a proper internet connection [18:30:59] What! you spit upon my tethering lifestyle? die, infidel! [18:31:42] Amgine: heh no, i've been on the 'tethering lifestyle' for the last 7 months [18:32:08] Amgine: with commits from shared autorickshaws, buses, trains, parks, right out on the road, gardens, pubs, etc [18:32:14] it is fun :D [18:32:30] yuvipanda: yo! [18:32:33] but, from a cost perspective, an internet connection is going to be way better than cell signal boosters [18:32:35] will you be around for a couple of hours ? [18:32:35] hey tfinc [18:32:38] tfinc: yup! [18:32:44] will be around for ~2 more hours [18:32:52] jon's got me a lot of changes I can review [18:32:54] yuvipanda: hit publish on the app then :D [18:32:57] plus we've an awesome iOS based pullr eq [18:33:00] woot [18:33:08] yuvipanda: try to see if you can publish it [18:33:21] yeah, logging in [18:33:26] is again stuck in meetings all day [18:33:33] philinje: yuvipanda is around now [18:33:56] on a high lag connection [18:33:57] it's connected, but messages get through slooowly [18:34:05] occassionally. It is back to normal now [18:34:29] or not [18:35:41] aah, okay. so it works outside on the balcony [18:35:44] * yuvipanda notes to self to buy a chair [18:37:25] Sit tailor fashion. [18:37:47] tfinc: I can't seem to find a 'publish' button [18:38:24] Amgine: i'm just sitting on the wall. The drop is about 15m, easily maim me. And worse, damage the laptop beyond repair [18:38:33] philinje: ok, sounds like you don't have anything in particular to add to that summary? not sure [18:38:41] yuvipanda: if you have it then it should be on the app version detail screen. at the top right labled "release this version" [18:38:51] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebf6eLblNH8 -- iPad app.. got through a mail fwd.. [18:39:10] tfinc: i'm there and do not see it [18:39:39] sumanah: sorry, was in a meeting, give me a minute [18:39:45] ok [18:39:45] i see rights and pricing, in app purcheses, iAd, manage game center [18:40:47] yuvipanda: hey, have a question for you [18:40:56] yuvipanda: do you even see the new version ? [18:41:00] it shoudl show up at the bottom [18:41:16] tfinc: i see the new version [18:41:20] just no way to hit publish [18:41:23] philinje: sure [18:41:39] yuvipanda: i'll just hit publish but i'll need you to watch it [18:41:55] tfinc: yes sir! [18:42:01] tfinc: I can watch for about 2 more hours [18:42:04] Status Processing for App Store :D [18:42:08] woooot [18:42:25] * yuvipanda sets up twitter [18:42:33] yuvipanda: the iTunes store hit some weird corruption issues site wide yesterday [18:42:41] they *should* be fixed now [18:42:58] it's apple's property. It never existed [18:43:35] yuvipanda: what is the reason for full-text search - was it because Elke wanted to search by street name? [18:44:09] philinje: full text search because it is a core feature of the app? [18:44:26] philinje: the lists are very large, and if you want to find one particular monument, search is the only way to go [18:44:49] so, it is to search on a monument name, or a street name? [18:45:06] or both [18:45:57] philinje: currently it is just monument name, but i think we'll eventually add addresses too [18:46:10] philinje: but from a technical pov, it doesn't matter if it is 1 field or 10 - it's all going to have the same backend cost [18:46:20] yes [18:46:28] thanks, that helps [18:46:54] philinje: :) I also think that Platonides and multichill should be included in that discussion - they probably know more about the WLM API's behavior than we do [18:47:41] yes, Maarten has been involved but I will copy Platonides [18:47:41] yuvipanda: 3.2 is ready for sale [18:47:49] tfinc: awesome [18:48:20] \o/ [18:49:10] yuvipanda: are you reading wikimedia emails pretty regularly? [18:49:55] philinje: yup, have them synced on my phone [18:50:08] philinje: last two days have been hectic, so unable to reply. I shall do so tomorrow [18:50:42] philinje: also, the June reports indicated a drop in traffic from the ANdroid app. Is this for real or is that some glitch in the API move stats/ [18:50:59] yuvipanda: i assigned the maps clustering bug to you. if you cant get to it please let me know [18:51:32] heh, current news about iOS and Wikipedia is a malware hitting iOS app store with 'source' for the news from Wikipedia [18:51:46] tfinc: yup, I should be able to. I foresee a very productive saturday. [18:53:10] yuvipanda: the traffic may be under-reported, the analytics team knows that [18:53:13] tfinc: hi :) Dropped you an email with Timo and I github accounts (respectively: krinkle , hashar ) ;) [18:53:37] hashar: excellent. now i can add you guys [18:53:55] philinje: it was a pretty big drop, so just wondering. [18:54:00] sumanah: can you send me an email with the proposed text, and I will just edit? [18:54:09] ok [18:54:51] hmm nothing on twitter or itunes connect yet [18:55:31] yuvipanda: one question about the API data - we should still see URLs / page requests, right? There is just a query string ?action=mobileview at the end, right? [18:55:41] tfinc: awesome thanks [18:56:17] philinje: not at all [18:56:32] hashar: you guy are all set up [18:57:22] yuvipanda: can you give me a typical URL / request? [18:57:40] tfinc: You don't have permission to create new repositories for wikimedia :-] [18:57:44] philinje: one second [18:58:00] tfinc: I would like to fork https://github.com/jaz303/tipsy to https://github.com/wikimedia/jquery-tipsy :D [18:58:46] hashar: you has push/pull. make it happen [18:59:08] well I would like to have the "forked from jaz303/tipsy" link in github :-] [18:59:17] so people know where it comes from [18:59:26] philinje: en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=mobileview&format=json&page=India&redirect=yes§ions=all&prop=text%7Csections§ionprop=level%7Cline&noheadings= [18:59:30] all requests go to api.php [18:59:45] philinje: this is behavior from android 1.2 and iOS 3.2 [18:59:53] ok [19:00:16] i think that will still appear as a page request [19:00:35] and a single request grabs the whole article with all the sections? [19:00:39] philinje: confirmation would be great :) [19:00:49] philinje: yes. 1.3 will have a slightly more complicated mechanism when released [19:01:09] yes, a light version of dynamic sections [19:01:47] yup! [19:02:05] currently, a single request grabs the whole article with all the sections? [19:02:17] philinje: yup [19:02:27] sorry, you answered that [19:02:51] philinje: so confirming with analytics would be awesome! I'd want to use this for my smartphone talk... [19:03:27] you mean about apps using the new API [19:03:49] philinje: no, about June's drop in Android Numbers [19:03:58] philinje: I've a talk at wikimania about the Wikipedia Apps :) [19:04:23] ok [19:04:32] philinje: thanks! [19:04:59] i am not so confident that Diederik can dig into this right away - he's lost a lot of resources [19:05:12] ouch [19:05:32] lost? I don't recall any leaving mails... [19:06:52] * yuvipanda *shrugs* [19:07:06] philinje: either way, do keep it in mind :) [19:07:28] hashar: https://github.com/wikimedia/tipsy .. github didn't let me set a name for the fork [19:07:39] hashar: if your ok with it then i'll delete the other repot [19:08:03] tfinc: you can rename it under 'admin' [19:08:07] only one rename though [19:08:14] sweet [19:08:16] yuvipanda: andre and others have stopped [19:08:16] * tfinc goes to do that [19:09:13] tfinc: it is a shame we can't rename it :/ [19:09:47] tfinc: looks nice. Would then need a write access there :) [19:10:07] hashar: it can be renamed, I just pointed tfinc to it :) [19:10:26] yuvipanda: so you fork then rename ? [19:10:38] hashar: yup! It still keeps the relationship [19:10:58] with the repo you forked from [19:11:58] now if only it wasn't throwing an extra "-" ... its trying to create it as "-jquery-tipsy" [19:12:13] i deleted the old "jquery-tipsy" repot [19:12:22] but it still seems to think it exists [19:12:46] 'there are two hard problems in computer science - naming things, cache invalidation and off by one errors' [19:13:02] :) [19:14:09] *nothing* on twitter, and nothing on the reviews yet either [19:18:36] hashar: https://github.com/wikimedia/tipsy has staff read/write. i still can't rename it but as yuvipanda pointed out the cache has not been invalidated yet [19:18:48] that would explain it [19:19:00] i'll try again in an hour [19:19:39] looks good [19:19:41] thanks tfinc ! [19:21:19] hashar: https://github.com/wikimedia/jquery-tipsy :D [19:21:28] cache finally got invalidated [19:21:40] wonder bar, would you mind enabling "issues" there too? [19:21:52] so the community could use github and not bugzilla ;) [19:22:01] then I will no more bother you ;-] [19:22:04] done [19:22:15] you are my favorite octopus now! [19:22:45] * tfinc adds +1 to the people who owe him favors now [19:23:12] * yuvipanda notes that tfinc is now a french octopus [19:23:34] * jrobson is still having djvu troubles with mediawiki :-( [19:24:02] djvu déjà vu [19:24:09] I read that as deja vu troubles... [19:24:12] :| [19:24:12] ok [19:24:21] ;jrobson is that Déjà vu? [19:24:29] oh you and your fancy accents [19:24:35] jrobson: we already have https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37577 for tracking [19:24:45] k sweet [19:24:50] so i'll add to that [19:24:52] I need someone to merge my stuff [19:24:57] so I can get a feel for what's still broken [19:27:01] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37577 is now up to date [19:27:18] preilly: can you reivew these changes for jrobson ? [19:29:05] yuvipanda: i woudl have liked to include your stats with http://blog.wikimedia.org/2012/07/05/calling-mobile-app-developers-better-way-access-wikipedia/ .. did you make them ? [19:29:36] tfinc: sadly nope. Lost last few days on the move. [19:30:00] i could make some now but I don't trust my network to produce any metrics that can be considered remotely useful [19:31:45] yuvipanda: dont worry about it then [19:32:00] preilly: today was our cut off for your perf blog post. is it ready to go ? [19:33:20] tfinc: ok [19:35:20] tfinc: no [19:35:37] tfinc: I lost my vm image with all the profiling data [19:36:01] tfinc: I accidentally deleted the your image when my hard drive was full [19:36:11] thats too bad. then we just wont do it. [19:36:55] tfinc: I talked to Guillaume about it and said I'd try to still get it done [19:37:10] tfinc: do you want me to delete what I've got thus far? [19:38:17] preilly: what does it look like now ? [19:38:35] tfinc: http://blog.wikimedia.org/?p=15426&preview=true [19:39:02] tfinc: it doesn't talk about mobile really at all or things outside of PHP [19:43:06] lets table it for now since it lacks a mobile focus [19:43:37] preilly: due to upcoming vacation schedules, wikimania, and other projects needing high level attention, later today a co-worker (Eric) is going to jump on the J2me project to help. could you add ehonour-opp to the github please? [19:49:54] caxthelm: sure [19:51:02] preilly: great, thanks. [19:58:14] caxthelm: https://github.com/ehonour-opp should have access to https://github.com/wikimedia/WikipediaMobileJ2ME now [20:01:05] preilly: thank you. [20:01:41] I'll introduce him once he gets set up and on IRC. [20:02:07] "Wikipedia Mobile app and Cases iPhone / iPod touch win improvements in performance and visual. [20:02:18] " [20:02:18] I think that's a good thing [20:02:18] (from GTranslate) [20:02:55] this connection is worse than no connection at all [20:02:55] * yuvipanda goes to look for a gun [20:10:58] yuvipanda: no [20:11:21] preilly: no for 'i think this is a good thing?' [20:11:40] or the gun comment? [20:11:43] yuvipanda: no for, "yuvipanda goes to look for a gun" [20:12:15] aaah, yes. I didn;t find any, so I'm stuck with this either way for the next few days [20:13:47] * jerith hands yuvipanda South African DSL from last Friday. [20:14:02] One of our international cables was broken. [20:14:18] jerith: oooh, and ? back to dialup speeds and latencies? [20:14:21] * preilly thinks damn that blows [20:14:47] that sounds veerrrry fast, rather than very slow? [20:15:01] 'damn that internet line is so fast that it is killing my hard drive!' [20:15:05] Most consumer ISPs were running at sufficiently reduced capacity that everything times out. [20:16:13] aaah [20:16:39] jerith: isn't almost all of your connectivity via cables? [20:16:54] yuvipanda: Yup. [20:17:16] When one of them breaks, everything's sad. [20:17:36] sigh [20:17:47] i should find out how India's internet gets to it [20:21:39] yuvipanda: it's international undersea cable network [20:24:40] preilly: yup, I was halfway through that epic WIRED article [20:26:34] tfinc: will be off in about 10 minutes. One bit of press for the app, looks mostly positive. [20:26:43] yuvipanda: good [20:26:54] no current reviews on the app store yet [20:42:37] yuvipanda: it's because appstore update push hasn't been triggered yet. [20:42:47] at least had not for me so far. [20:43:29] thedj: guessed so. Android takes about 2 hours at the least [20:43:35] this version does not have the 'per section' api downloading yet right ? [20:43:55] thedj: nope. That's on the android beta right now, and I'll send out an iOS beta shortly. [20:44:02] cool [20:44:06] :) [20:44:50] alright [20:44:52] i shall head to sleep [20:44:57] hmm. i would not have overlayed the tabbar with the references alert btw... [20:45:09] thedj: on the new version? [20:45:10] or the older one? [20:45:13] yup [20:45:23] actually if apple finds out they might object. i think it's against their guidelines. [20:45:30] thedj: either way, it goes off when you do anything else, so 'okay'. [20:45:31] ouch [20:45:34] thedj: file a bug? [20:45:42] yuvipanda: will do. [20:45:45] thedj: thanks! [20:45:52] thedj: did the app store push come through? [20:45:53] so yuvipanda the new iPhone app finally got through the iTunes barrier/ [20:46:18] jrobson: sortoaf. Most people haven't been triggered updates yet [20:46:26] so I guess it'll roll out during the day [20:46:27] must say, took long this time. [20:46:29] should we tweet about it? [20:46:45] jrobson: done as soon as it was released [20:46:50] cool [20:47:30] over the past half year most app updates were no more than a week delay. Seems to have gone up considerably lately. Perhaps it's io6 approaching and thus more updates. [20:47:46] btw. is it tested on ios6 yet ? [20:48:29] jrobson: the rest of the wlm pull reqs need testing, so will do so tomorrow. Should be a productive saturday. [20:48:35] thedj: nope, not on iOS 6. [20:48:50] thedj: i'll get the sim when I'm not on mobile data - but i'm wary of updating my iPod touch to it yet... [20:49:28] sweet yuvipanda [20:49:43] yuvipanda: i have my ipod on ios6 [20:49:49] will run a quick test right now. [20:50:09] thedj: awesome! [20:50:17] i'll stay on for a bit then [20:50:59] hmm, it's empty. need to juice it up a bit first. [20:51:46] the beta vs. production ios case is just why i have 2 ios devices. But I almost never use the beta software for personal stuff. [20:52:32] thedj: I don't use any of the iOS devices for personal stuff - I don't want to upgrade simply because then I'll have nothing to test 5.x with :) [20:52:59] preilly, tfinc, philinje, MaxSem, yuvipanda, (anyone else I forgot to introduce): Please meet ehonour. he is going to be helping out with the J2me. [20:53:08] \o/ [20:53:14] welcome ehonour [20:53:23] welcome ehonour [20:53:24] Hello all, good to meet you [20:53:31] * yuvipanda wonders how to react to the british spelling of honour [20:53:32] ehonour: it's nice to meet you too [20:53:47] welcome [20:53:51] at work we have ios devices with each major and most minor versions for every single generation of iOS device. [20:54:12] thedj: wow [20:54:20] it's about 30 now. + another 15 or so devices at the latest rev used for pure development. [20:55:16] thedj: dang [20:55:26] that's the way to do it! [20:55:41] + about 80 Android devices :D [20:55:45] ... [20:58:27] okay, i shall crash [20:58:31] gnite everyone! [20:58:39] will check up on iOS reactions in ~10 hours [21:01:18] hmm, active links are broken on ios6. [21:01:37] greetings ehonour! [21:01:52] i get black backgrounds on h2 and blue backgrounds on links. so I think it's the transparency [21:01:53] greetings tfinc [21:02:02] preilly: ready? [21:02:08] let us know if we can help with anything [21:02:08] awjr: yes [21:02:16] sure thing, thanks [21:02:26] i'm specifically eager to see page loads in the j2me app so that i can demo it at wikimania next week [21:02:36] preilly: how should we do it, google hangout? or i can give you a call? [21:03:14] i'll start taking a look at that then [21:03:21] awjr: I was trying to call you on Skype [21:03:29]