[00:27:18] <awjr>	 heads up that im making some changes in mingle and cards/storywall might look weird for a minute until im done
[00:33:40] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Jdlrobson; "When customizing the banners it should be possible to specify target devices as well as the html." [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22853
[00:36:43] <Krinkle>	 jdlrobson: before writing a long bugzilla comment that is not needed, do you have a minute to discuss bug 40033?
[00:36:47] <Krinkle>	 We've had this discussion before but I think going doing it that way leads to duplication and outdated code.
[00:36:54] <Krinkle>	 It is perfectly possible for code to work fine in both mobile and desktop. Only exceptional modules need to adapt their logic for module.
[00:37:01] <Krinkle>	 . And for those cases ResourceLoader already has the ability to serve mobile a special version built-in, and has had for a long time and it is about time we start using it.
[00:37:01] <Krinkle>	 'skinStyles' and 'skinScripts'
[00:42:44] <Krinkle>	 nvm, left the comment there
[02:29:12] <kostya>	 hi all
[09:34:52] <JeroenDeDauw>	 Where can I find the source of the WLM Android app?
[09:36:56] <JeroenDeDauw>	 tfinc: ^
[09:42:11] <JeroenDeDauw>	 nvm, found it on teh obvious spot
[17:17:01] <philinje>	 Ready for Dev is better prioritized now
[17:28:39] <MaxSem>	 awjr, coulld you review https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/22852/ ?
[17:29:08] <awjr>	 MaxSem: sure in a minute
[17:30:45] <awjr>	 multichill: please see https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39891 when you have a chance; region codes are still incorrect for italy
[17:33:14] <multichill>	 awjr: Did you update?
[17:33:21] <awjr>	 MaxSem: why do you do $wgUseTidy = $this->useTidySaved; in the teardown function?
[17:34:02] <awjr>	 multichill: i checked what is currently in production - MaxSem when was the last time the production db for wlm was updated?
[17:34:03] <MaxSem>	 because a failed test may result it this variable not being reenabled
[17:34:04] <multichill>	 awjr: What is wrong with for example it-07?
[17:34:19] <awjr>	 multichill: well, it is not an iso-3166-2 code for italy
[17:34:57] <multichill>	 Oh right, where the hell did they get the numbers from :P
[17:34:57] <awjr>	 MaxSem: but won't it get reenabled in setup?
[17:35:01] <awjr>	 hehehe
[17:36:25] <MaxSem>	 no it won't for all the remaining tests
[17:36:36] <awjr>	 MaxSem: yeah, sorry, ir ead the code too fast, i see what's happening
[17:37:01] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: awjrichards; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22852
[17:37:22] <awjr>	 MaxSem: ^
[17:37:25] <MaxSem>	 thanks!
[17:37:48] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: MaxSem; "Bug 39489: action=mobileview doesn't play nice with sections not from wikitext" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22840
[17:38:04] <awjr>	 multichill: it looks like whatever they had been using for admin levels have nothing to do with iso-3166-2 data at all
[17:38:32] <MaxSem>	 looool
[17:39:03] <awjr>	 i suspect the amd1 data is supposed to be the 20 'regions', and adm2 is supposed to be the 'provinces' (although right now it all appears to just be 6-digit numbers...)
[17:39:18] <multichill>	 pfffff
[17:43:26] <gerrit-wm>	 Change abandoned: MaxSem; "Fixed in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/22852/" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22455
[17:44:51] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: MaxSem; "Minor docs update." [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22446
[17:44:52] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: MaxSem; "disable test using unicode in URL" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22457
[17:48:23] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: MaxSem; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22446
[18:30:01] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: MaxSem; "Add MediaWiki:Mobile.css and Mobile.js to mobile view" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14419
[18:35:15] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Siebrand; "Wee! Tests passing :)." [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22446
[19:17:00] <multichill>	 awjr_lunch: How are we on the admin regions problems? Is most of it fixed now?
[20:24:00] <awjr>	 multichill: the only one i know about that is still a significant problem is italy
[20:24:09] <awjr>	 jdlrobson: http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/MobileTechDays
[20:28:24] <awjr>	 MaxSem: http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/MobileTechDays
[20:31:01] <tfinc>	 philinje: this is an interesting use case http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Industrial_Building_2012-09-05_20-57-46.jpg
[20:31:13] <tfinc>	 a user took the photo on a standard digital camera
[20:31:34] <tfinc>	 then loaded it ont their phone. edited it with a third party app. and then used our app to upload to commons
[20:35:23] <yuvipand1>	 tfinc: I'll note that Nikon and Samsung just released Point and Shoot cameras with full Android on them. Would be nice if someone buys those and uses our app :)
[20:36:32] <tfinc>	 yuvipand1: sure. thats not the case here. i checked this model to see if it ran android
[20:37:37] <yuvipand1>	 yup, that's cool too!
[20:37:43] <yuvipand1>	 though I wonder how they did it
[20:38:05] <yuvipand1>	 transfer to computer, back to phone, then app?
[20:38:17] <tfinc>	 yuvipand1: thats what i'm curious to find out
[20:38:32] <tfinc>	 yuvipand1: i'm going by seeing "Software used	Aviary for Android 2.1.7"
[20:38:33] <yuvipand1>	 poked on the talk page of uploader yet?
[20:38:36] <tfinc>	 in the exim info
[20:39:25] <tfinc>	 yuvipand1: philinje can you reach out and ask them?
[20:41:10] <yuvipand1>	 tfinc: he's a new user - all his uploads have been through the app https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Bill_Angel
[20:41:24] <Reedy>	 If you have a USB OTG (on the go) cable, you can plug digital cameras etc straight into android phones
[20:41:31] <Reedy>	 I think this worked from ~3/3.2+
[20:41:49] <Reedy>	 http://www.amazon.com/eForCity-Micro-USB-OTG-Adapter/dp/B005QX7KYU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1346964102&sr=8-1&keywords=usb+otg
[20:41:58] <tfinc>	 yuvipand1: thats actually a really interesting question. how many new accounts did the app create
[20:42:14] <tfinc>	 yuvipand1: what would you say is the best way to count it?
[20:42:36] <tfinc>	 does the mw api show account age ?
[20:42:55] <yuvipand1>	 tfinc: I can whip something up on toolserver
[20:43:01] <tfinc>	 yuvipand1: excellent
[20:43:39] <yuvipand1>	 new accounts created since sep 1 with commons uploads only which have a good percentage of them being wlm uploads
[20:43:48] <tfinc>	 yeah
[20:44:06] <yuvipand1>	 Reedy: ah, nice!
[20:44:16] <yuvipand1>	 seems to be using a Galaxy W
[20:46:57] * yuvipand1  notes that the power is out and his house is possibly flooding from the rain so might go off anytime

[21:00:57] <Reedy>	 Woaaah
[21:01:07] <Reedy>	 One person has uploaded over 9GB of files :|
[21:01:33] <yuvipanda>	 Reedy: video?
[21:01:41] <Reedy>	 1	Pere prlpz	2869	9610.7
[21:01:58] <Reedy>	 3 or 4MB files would soon equal up
[21:02:15] <yuvipanda>	 Reedy: yeah, and I see lot of variants of the same shot
[21:02:24] <Reedy>	 true
[21:02:46] <yuvipanda>	 but still o_O
[21:02:55] <Reedy>	 I've nothing anywhere near me :p
[21:03:41] <yuvipanda>	 me neither
[21:04:12] <yuvipanda>	 Reedy: know the namespace id for template off the top of your head? :P
[21:04:45] <Reedy>	 10!
[21:10:33] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: philinje only 352 uploads from the app so far?
[21:10:58] <yuvipanda>	 either that or I do not understand how iwlinks work
[21:13:13] <MaxSem>	 awjr, http://thedailywtf.com/
[21:13:19] <awjr>	 heh thanks MaxSem
[21:21:19] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: MaxSem; "refactor banner code to be generic" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22853
[21:23:05] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: philinje according to a little toolserver script about 98 people have so far uploaded at least one file using wlmmobile
[21:23:24] <philinje>	 cool, what script?
[21:23:27] <yuvipanda>	 make that 92
[21:23:35] <yuvipanda>	 philinje: I just wrote that query on toolserver
[21:24:01] <yuvipanda>	 philinje: does that sound about right?
[21:24:23] <philinje>	 we haven't counted users in any way, so thanks
[21:24:30] <philinje>	 can you send a link?
[21:25:43] <MaxSem>	 jdlrobson, http://dpaste.org/UFSpu/
[21:25:54] <MaxSem>	 use it in your LocalSettings
[21:25:55] <jdlrobson>	 thanks MaxSem :)
[21:26:15] <awjr>	 brion: are you working on any app stuff atm?
[21:26:27] <brion>	 awjr: just going through some bug reports atm
[21:26:29] <yuvipanda>	 philinje: it's a sql statement that needs to be run in toolserver.
[21:26:34] <awjr>	 word up
[21:26:34] <yuvipanda>	 philinje: https://gist.github.com/3660487 is the SQL i'm using
[21:26:51] <philinje>	 ah i see
[21:27:19] <yuvipanda>	 philinje: let me see if I can knock up a dashboard real quick
[21:28:14] <philinje>	 awesome!
[21:28:23] <philinje>	 looks like 409 mobile uploads so far
[21:29:56] <jdlrobson>	 so MaxSem how would you suggest translating the content of the banner?
[21:36:50] <jdlrobson>	 MaxSem: the hook is in the wrong place
[21:37:18] * yuvipanda  pokes Jarry1250 

[21:38:35] <Jarry1250>	 Hey yuvipanda
[21:39:07] <yuvipanda>	 hey Jarry1250
[21:39:19] <yuvipanda>	 Jarry1250: replied about POSTing :)
[21:39:42] <yuvipanda>	 Jarry1250: wondering how this could be covered in the Signpost
[21:40:54] <Jarry1250>	 yuvipanda: Editorial
[21:41:03] <Jarry1250>	 ("From the editor")
[21:43:10] <yuvipanda>	 Jarry1250: what do I have to do for that?
[21:43:31] <philinje>	 YuviPanda: did you see this? http://toolserver.org/~emijrp/wlm/stats.php
[21:43:42] <Jarry1250>	 Probably drop Ed an email. He hasn't been able to try out the app though so you'll have to tell him all about it :)
[21:44:19] <yuvipanda>	 Jarry1250: I thought you could do that :P
[21:44:37] <yuvipanda>	 Jarry1250: I've a COI
[21:44:38] <yuvipanda>	 :)
[21:44:54] <yuvipanda>	 philinje: I have, but it doesn't include mobile uploads
[21:46:10] <yuvipanda>	 philinje: i've asked him if he can add mobile counter, and offered to help add it if needed
[21:47:47] <Jarry1250>	 yuvipanda: Well,the SP has a COI so no difference there
[21:49:02] <yuvipanda>	 Jarry1250: can't you like, do a 'review' of the app?
[21:51:45] <Jarry1250>	 yuvipanda: From the Editor is like, an, endorsement
[21:51:57] <Jarry1250>	 I can ghost write though
[21:52:07] <Jarry1250>	 Make sure all the features get mentioned
[21:52:07] <yuvipanda>	 that'd be nice :)
[21:52:37] <yuvipanda>	 okay, I think I got the last set of graphics I wanted (notification Icons)
[21:52:46] <yuvipanda>	 will update, put in Google Play and ping you and ed :)
[22:03:37] <Jarry1250>	 yuvipanda: Yes, sounds good
[22:03:44] <yuvipanda>	 Jarry1250: thanks :)
[22:04:36] <yuvipanda>	 philinje: emijrp and I talked, he's going to add the mobile counter to his site shortly :)
[22:04:41] <yuvipanda>	 s/site/script/
[22:10:00] <yuvipanda>	 time to sleep
[22:10:01] <yuvipanda>	 gnite everyone
[22:17:16] <jdlrobson>	 MaxSem: i'm investigating cross browser issues now
[22:33:04] <jdlrobson>	 Wowser http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Itimad-ud-Daula%E2%80%99s_Tomb_2012-09-07_01-07-06.jpg
[22:41:00] <brion>	 nice
[22:51:58] <MaxSem>	 jdlrobson, can you push whatever you have ATM so that I could test my stuff?
[22:52:12] <jdlrobson>	 MaxSem: yes sir
[22:52:19] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "hide banners targetted for android only" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23014
[22:52:19] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "refactor banner code to be generic" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/22853
[22:52:23] <jdlrobson>	 done
[22:52:30] <MaxSem>	 thanks!
[22:52:36] <jdlrobson>	 MaxSem: i'm pretty much done there
[22:52:43] <jdlrobson>	 i'm now working on the html for LocalSettings hook
[22:52:47] <jdlrobson>	 simplifying it
[22:52:52] <jdlrobson>	 making it work cross browser
[22:56:46] <jdlrobson>	 awjr: quick coffee?
[22:57:01] <awjr>	 jdlrobson: just went for coffee with sumana
[22:57:07] <jdlrobson>	 doh
[22:57:07] * awjr  contemplates more coffee

[22:57:12] <awjr>	 nah
[22:57:15] <awjr>	 sorry :)
[23:03:48] <MaxSem>	 jdlrobson, regarding usage stats you asked about: we had 22411 API requests yesterday, of them:
[23:03:57] <MaxSem>	 392 text searches
[23:04:13] <MaxSem>	 20398 spatial searches
[23:04:17] <jdlrobson>	 interesting
[23:04:27] <jdlrobson>	 a small minority then.. ^ philinje worth considering
[23:04:28] <MaxSem>	 803 admin structure searches
[23:04:57] <MaxSem>	 well, spatial searches could be inflated due to lack  of caching
[23:05:03] <jdlrobson>	 MaxSem:  http://pastebin.com/MPHqwcDs
[23:05:50] <MaxSem>	 cool
[23:06:03] <jdlrobson>	 works on opera mobile and android
[23:06:06] <jdlrobson>	 going to test some more\
[23:06:26] <MaxSem>	 and 1180 admin tree traversals
[23:07:00] <MaxSem>	 that is, people look at the structure more than they're using it for monument searches
[23:07:15] <jdlrobson>	 that's very interesting..
[23:17:12] <GitHub50>	 [WLMMobile] awjrichards pushed 2 new commits to master: http://git.io/pK91AQ
[23:17:12] <GitHub50>	 [WLMMobile/master] 'Upload more of this monument' link on description page - Brion Vibber
[23:17:12] <GitHub50>	 [WLMMobile/master] Merge pull request #245 from brion/upload-more-link - Arthur Richards
[23:17:20] <mw-jenkinsbot>	 Project WLMMobile - Nightly builds build #213: SUCCESS in 7.2 sec: https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/WLMMobile%20-%20Nightly%20builds/213/
[23:17:21] <mw-jenkinsbot>	 Brion VIBBER: 'Upload more of this monument' link on description page
[23:17:29] <brion>	 \o/
[23:24:29] <GitHub129>	 [WLMMobile] awjrichards pushed 2 new commits to master: http://git.io/i3fVmw
[23:24:29] <GitHub129>	 [WLMMobile/master] Bug 39859: use native resolution for monument detail page photo - Brion Vibber
[23:24:30] <GitHub129>	 [WLMMobile/master] Merge pull request #247 from brion/39859 - Arthur Richards
[23:24:37] <mw-jenkinsbot>	 Project WLMMobile - Nightly builds build #214: SUCCESS in 6.4 sec: https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/WLMMobile%20-%20Nightly%20builds/214/
[23:24:38] <mw-jenkinsbot>	 Brion VIBBER: Bug 39859: use native resolution for monument detail page photo
[23:26:48] <MaxSem>	 awjr, http://dpaste.org/uwDno/
[23:34:11] <GitHub194>	 [WLMMobile] awjrichards pushed 2 new commits to master: http://git.io/avEAmQ
[23:34:11] <GitHub194>	 [WLMMobile/master] Bug 40026: avoid recompression of gallery images - Brion Vibber
[23:34:11] <GitHub194>	 [WLMMobile/master] Merge pull request #248 from brion/bug40026 - Arthur Richards
[23:34:17] <mw-jenkinsbot>	 Project WLMMobile - Nightly builds build #215: SUCCESS in 6.1 sec: https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/WLMMobile%20-%20Nightly%20builds/215/
[23:34:17] <mw-jenkinsbot>	 Brion VIBBER: Bug 40026: avoid recompression of gallery images
[23:38:37] <GitHub82>	 [WLMMobile] awjrichards pushed 2 new commits to master: http://git.io/og7YLA
[23:38:37] <GitHub82>	 [WLMMobile/master] Bug 39718: switch from dropdowns to inline toggle links - Brion Vibber
[23:38:37] <GitHub82>	 [WLMMobile/master] Merge pull request #249 from brion/39718 - Arthur Richards
[23:38:44] <mw-jenkinsbot>	 Project WLMMobile - Nightly builds build #216: SUCCESS in 6.3 sec: https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/WLMMobile%20-%20Nightly%20builds/216/
[23:38:45] <mw-jenkinsbot>	 Brion VIBBER: Bug 39718: switch from dropdowns to inline toggle links
[23:40:25] <GitHub52>	 [WLMMobile] awjrichards pushed 1 new commit to commons-upload: http://git.io/1soVaQ
[23:40:25] <GitHub52>	 [WLMMobile/commons-upload] Merge branch 'master' of https://github.com/wikimedia/WLMMobile into commons-upload - awjrichards
[23:40:31] <mw-jenkinsbot>	 Project WLMMobile - Nightly builds build #217: SUCCESS in 6.1 sec: https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/WLMMobile%20-%20Nightly%20builds/217/
[23:40:32] <mw-jenkinsbot>	 * jdlrobson: enable rtl css (bug 39288)
[23:40:32] <mw-jenkinsbot>	 * jdlrobson: flip the back button (bug 39858)
[23:40:33] <mw-jenkinsbot>	 * Brion VIBBER: 'Upload more of this monument' link on description page
[23:40:33] <mw-jenkinsbot>	 * jdlrobson: dynamically add styles via style tag to avoid screen flash
[23:40:34] <mw-jenkinsbot>	 * jdlrobson: init map only after styles have loaded
[23:40:34] <mw-jenkinsbot>	 * Brion VIBBER: Bug 39859: use native resolution for monument detail page photo
[23:40:35] <mw-jenkinsbot>	 * Brion VIBBER: Bug 40026: avoid recompression of gallery images
[23:40:35] <mw-jenkinsbot>	 * Brion VIBBER: Bug 39718: switch from dropdowns to inline toggle links
[23:49:16] <MaxSem>	 philinje, should the banner be displayed on every WMF mobile-enabled wiki?