[00:01:52] <tfinc>	 hey jamesgtmoore
[00:02:18] <tfinc>	 jamesgtmoore: here is how you format the main page http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mobile_Projects/Mobile_Gateway#How_do_I_format_a_mobile_homepage.3F
[00:06:38] <jamesgtmoore>	 hi tfinc thanks. I use the id="mf-something" attribute in my divs for the main page and they show up on a mobile fine but they're not hidden like an accordion jquery effect. On all other pages the accordion is there though. To see what I mean try view this page in a normal web browser (its what mobiles see): http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Main_Page?useformat=mobile
[00:07:29] <jamesgtmoore>	 then look at this other page on the same wiki: http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/FIGU?useformat=mobile
[00:07:30] <tfinc>	 jamesgtmoore: yup. i see what you mean
[00:07:49] <jamesgtmoore>	 the second URL I gave has loads of accordions
[00:08:04] <jamesgtmoore>	 or rather accordion parts/sections
[00:08:09] <tfinc>	 jamesgtmoore: so you'll see how even we don't use accordions on our main page
[00:08:11] <tfinc>	 http://en.m.wikipedia.org/
[00:08:14] <tfinc>	 we make it as small as possible
[00:08:33] <tfinc>	 to minimize overloading the user
[00:08:37] <jamesgtmoore>	 yes its nice an simple. perhaps its best that way
[00:08:49] <tfinc>	 :)
[00:08:57] <jamesgtmoore>	 i'll leave it as is then. thanks for your help :)
[00:09:03] <tfinc>	 jamesgtmoore: your sight looks great with mobile frontend. how hard was it to set it up
[00:09:08] <tfinc>	 i work for the wikimedia mobile team
[00:09:18] <tfinc>	 and i love hearing back about what its like to re-use our work
[00:09:30] <jamesgtmoore>	 i used the MobileDetect extension to keep it persistently in mobile view
[00:09:44] <jamesgtmoore>	 with the mw1.20wmf10 release
[00:09:57] <jamesgtmoore>	 I didnt need to do any hacks at all
[00:10:41] <jamesgtmoore>	 what is this? https://github.com/wikimedia/WikipediaMobile
[00:11:05] <jamesgtmoore>	 is it the same as this? http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MobileFrontend
[00:12:41] <tfinc>	 jamesgtmoore: nope
[00:13:01] <tfinc>	 its the cordova based codebase for the Wikipedia app on Android, iOS, BlackBerry, etc
[00:13:25] <tfinc>	 jamesgtmoore: we use it to build https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.wikipedia
[00:13:29] <tfinc>	 jamesgtmoore: are you a dev ?
[00:13:40] <jamesgtmoore>	 oh i see. never heard of cordova
[00:15:04] <jamesgtmoore>	 I'm a major in tech support, minor in dev sorry. I see you are looking for a developer but I dont fit the bill.
[00:15:32] <tfinc>	 jamesgtmoore: were always looking for smart people to a) come work for us and b) join our volunteer community
[00:15:40] <tfinc>	 not necessarily in that order
[00:18:58] <jamesgtmoore>	 how does one join the volunteer community?
[00:21:07] <tfinc>	 jamesgtmoore: sign up for our main mailing list https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l and our twitter handle to keep tabs https://twitter.com/#!/WikimediaMobile
[00:21:23] <tfinc>	 this is our main irc channel so were always around chatting about what were doing
[00:22:19] <jamesgtmoore>	 thanks I might do that
[00:22:21] <tfinc>	 currently we've just launched this new app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.wikipedia.wlm and our bug list has plenty of things to pick up https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?resolution=---&resolution=LATER&resolution=DUPLICATE&query_format=advanced&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&product=WikiLoves%20Monuments%20Mobile
[00:22:28] <tfinc>	 jamesgtmoore: are you an android user ?
[00:22:57] <jamesgtmoore>	 only an Android virtual device user :)
[00:23:10] <jamesgtmoore>	 with the Android SDK
[00:23:46] <tfinc>	 jamesgtmoore: do you own a smartphone ?
[00:23:57] <jamesgtmoore>	 no
[00:24:15] <tfinc>	 jamesgtmoore: cool. you can still pickup bugs and test them out on the emulator
[00:24:24] <tfinc>	 were always looking for more volunteers to help out with our open bug lists
[00:25:23] <tfinc>	 jamesgtmoore: as a basic hello to the mobile list why don't you mail out your story about using the mobile frontend extesnion
[00:25:30] <tfinc>	 it'll give your site some more visability
[00:26:23] <tfinc>	 and it'll let us know what it was like for a third party user to pick it up
[00:26:52] <jamesgtmoore>	 ok then i shall do that.
[00:27:41] <tfinc>	 awesome. glad to have your around jamesgtmoore. i'm going to step away for a bit but feel free to hang out and/or mail the list with any other questions
[00:27:55] <jamesgtmoore>	 ok then tata
[14:12:22] <multichill>	 MaxSem: Online? Didn't you change the default language for Belgium to Dutch ? http://wlm.wikimedia.org/api/api.php?action=adminlevels&format=json&admtree=be|be-bru is still empty
[14:13:03] <MaxSem>	 hah, we haven't deployed to that server lately
[14:14:08] <multichill>	 You probably want to
[14:14:42] <multichill>	 hmm, http://toolserver.org/~erfgoed/api/api.php?action=adminlevels&format=json&admtree=be|be-bru is also empty
[14:16:10] <multichill>	 MaxSem: What file do you define these defaults again?
[14:16:21] <MaxSem>	 do you realise that the app always requests with language explicitly set?
[14:16:30] <MaxSem>	 ApiCountries
[14:17:30] <multichill>	 MaxSem: Ahum, you fixed it but no svn update was done
[14:17:51] <multichill>	 http://toolserver.org/~erfgoed/api/api.php?action=adminlevels&format=json&admtree=be <- now it works
[14:18:31] <multichill>	 MaxSem: But yes, I realise that. But say for example it's set to English I would get French, now I get Dutch (and that's more complete)