[15:27:39] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "initialise mobilefrontend when dom content loaded (bug 40196)" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24437
[16:35:37] <MaxSem>	 awjr, how are you?
[16:35:46] <preilly>	 yuvipanda: ping
[16:35:46] <awjr>	 hi MaxSem
[16:35:53] <awjr>	 still feeling a bit sick
[16:36:06] <awjr>	 i'm going to stick around through our estimation meeting today, and then i'm going to go home again
[16:47:54] <yuvipanda>	 preilly: pong
[16:48:12] <yuvipanda>	 preilly: i've another phone coming my way in about 20 mins, can test the sim then
[16:53:47] <preilly>	 yuvipanda: okay
[16:53:56] <preilly>	 yuvipanda: have you done any testing at all yet?
[16:55:01] <yuvipanda>	 preilly: nope
[16:55:32] <yuvipanda>	 preilly: i'll poke you in 20-30 mins?
[17:00:00] <awjr>	 MaxSem: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/3f3e690486a57b903de61ce43a068f21c660d2b4?pqs=1&authuser=0&hl=en
[17:00:21] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Brion VIBBER; "Should work on all the browsers we support advanced stuff on, I think... Let's go for it. :D" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master); V: 0 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24437
[17:00:21] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Brion VIBBER; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24437
[17:51:42] <tfinc>	 awjr: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mobile/Testing_process
[17:52:15] <awjr>	 tfinc thnx
[18:01:55] <philinje>	 MaxSem: hi
[18:02:06] <MaxSem>	 hi
[18:02:21] <philinje>	 have you looked at the upload logs?
[18:11:41] <MaxSem>	 philinje, nothing interesting in the logs
[18:11:49] <philinje>	 really
[18:12:18] <philinje>	 awjr: hey, is Brion around?
[18:12:52] <awjr>	 philinje: yeah, i think he's heading back to his desk from a mtg
[18:13:04] <philinje>	 ok
[18:13:21] <philinje>	 still aiming to release an update today?
[18:45:24] <jdlrobson>	 yuvipanda: there?
[18:51:30] <jdlrobson>	 yuvipanda: \o/
[19:11:25] <brion>	 jdlrobson: can you review https://github.com/wikimedia/WLMMobile/pull/262 pls? thx :D
[19:11:42] <jdlrobson>	 sure
[19:12:42] <jdlrobson>	 brion done
[19:12:46] <brion>	 thanks!
[19:15:08] <brion>	 jdlrobson: whitespace fixed on https://github.com/wikimedia/WLMMobile/pull/259
[19:15:38] <jdlrobson>	 brion see my latest comment
[19:16:13] <brion>	 jdlrobson: yeah it's probably a bug in FileTransfer plugin on iOS
[19:16:37] <brion>	 since we're not pushing out an iOS version right now it's not a big hurry, so this can wait unless someone wants to play with it building it themselves
[19:17:15] <jdlrobson>	 sure
[19:17:40] <jdlrobson>	 removeAttr feels more right then setting the src attribute to empty
[19:17:51] <brion>	 yeah, changing now
[19:18:16] <jdlrobson>	 then feel free to merge
[19:18:20] <jdlrobson>	 saves me going into the code base :)
[19:19:23] <brion>	 done
[19:19:37] <mw-jenkinsbot>	 Project WLMMobile - Nightly builds build #237: SUCCESS in 7.5 sec: https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/WLMMobile%20-%20Nightly%20builds/237/
[19:19:37] <mw-jenkinsbot>	 brion: Attempt to clear memory by dropping old large preview images before going to the camera.
[19:19:45] <brion>	 \o/
[19:54:29] * yuvipanda  pokes preilly 

[19:54:34] <yuvipanda>	 just tested it out, works fine
[19:54:46] <yuvipanda>	 only time I'm pushed to .m. is if I hit a 'click to view image of xyz'
[19:54:58] <yuvipanda>	 and after a 'standard rates' disclaimer
[19:55:06] <yuvipanda>	 I took screenshots along the way, want me to pass them on?
[19:58:32] <yuvipanda>	 and I also ran out my balance and consumed 5MB of data, but I'll blame that on Android picking *that* moment to update whatsapp
[19:58:38] <yuvipanda>	 I can do more accurate measurements if you want
[20:04:20] <Ryan_Lane>	 is the mobile-feeds instance (i-000000c1) in use, or is it broken?
[20:04:43] <Ryan_Lane>	 and if it is broken, can it be deleted?
[20:06:12] <Ryan_Lane>	 MaxSem: ^^
[20:07:31] <MaxSem>	 Ryan_Lane, I think it was repurposed for zero(?) testing when Labs was broken and couldn't create new instances. preilly should know more
[20:11:26] <Ryan_Lane>	 mobile-feeds was indeed one of the corrupt instances
[21:00:43] <whym>	 Hi, can I ask something about the mobile front end?
[21:02:31] <whym>	 just trying: Japanese Wikipedia has a separate main page that is used for ja.m.wikipedia.org.
[21:02:52] <whym>	 However https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mobile_Projects/Mobile_Gateway suggests you annotate the normal main page instead of having a separate page.
[21:05:26] <whym>	 what would be the reason behind the difference? (just historical?)
[21:08:34] <yuvipanda>	 whym: I see mf-* style tags in jpwiki mainpage
[21:08:39] <yuvipanda>	 I suspect they're hidden with sitecss
[21:08:57] <yuvipanda>	 preilly: emailed :)
[21:10:29] <whym>	 yuvipanda: so, it seems the separate page is just unused now?
[21:12:16] <yuvipanda>	 whym: IIRC there is no seperate page
[21:12:24] <yuvipanda>	 can you point me to a seperate page?
[21:12:41] <whym>	 http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%83%A1%E3%82%A4%E3%83%B3%E3%83%9A%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B8_%28%E3%83%A2%E3%83%90%E3%82%A4%E3%83%AB%E7%89%88%29
[21:12:53] <whym>	 relevant bugzilla request: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23054
[21:13:23] <yuvipanda>	 whym: ah, yes.
[21:13:26] <yuvipanda>	 whym: no longer used
[21:13:31] <yuvipanda>	 look at 'component' in bugzilla :)
[21:14:27] <whym>	 yuvipanda: ah I see, it was for the old front end
[21:14:31] <yuvipanda>	 yup!
[21:15:35] <whym>	 thanks for that, it was quite puzzling why some added elements won't show up
[21:17:25] <MaxSem>	 ehm, how does that work?
[21:19:44] <MaxSem>	 whym, mobile users see main page as http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/メインページ?useformat=mobile not as http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/メインページ_(モバイル版)?useformat=mobile
[21:20:08] <MaxSem>	 so this special-casing does not work since the old Ruby gateway was decommisioned
[21:20:31] <whym>	 IIUC, elements with id "mw-*" in the normal main page will be included to the mobile main page.
[21:20:39] <MaxSem>	 right
[21:21:30] <whym>	 the separate page had almost identical content, and I assumed that the page is the one used for mobile
[21:22:46] <MaxSem>	 the difference is in colored lines
[21:23:18] <MaxSem>	 (that's what I see not knowing the language:P)
[21:23:34] <whym>	 yes, and I was speculating some special stripping mechanism or whatever is working :P
[21:24:34] <whym>	 actually some folks in JAWP are planning revamping the main page including the one for mobile, and trying to update the separate page
[21:24:44] <MaxSem>	 sigh
[21:24:49] <whym>	 it's good to know before they do
[21:24:52] <MaxSem>	 communication is a problem
[21:26:07] <MaxSem>	 there's a bug request that asks for a separate mobile page but I can't tell if it will be implemented any time soon
[21:27:35] <whym>	 IMHO the annotation approach makes the page better maintained
[21:28:26] <MaxSem>	 however it isn't flexible enough
[21:29:01] <MaxSem>	 anyway, if we ever add support for separate main page, ids will be used as a fallback
[21:29:49] <whym>	 ok
[22:17:58] <GitHub22>	 [WLMMobile] jdlrobson pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/D9yBlA
[22:17:58] <GitHub22>	 [WLMMobile/master] RELEASE 1.2.4 - jdlrobson
[22:18:05] <mw-jenkinsbot>	 Project WLMMobile - Nightly builds build #238: SUCCESS in 6.4 sec: https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/WLMMobile%20-%20Nightly%20builds/238/
[22:18:05] <mw-jenkinsbot>	 jdlrobson: RELEASE 1.2.4
[22:18:14] <preilly>	 \0/
[22:19:03] <preilly>	 \o/
[22:19:51] <preilly>	 brion: did this https://github.com/wikimedia/WLMMobile/commit/ed0d0cf7be5df93e1eb38b2e8be5d46ef7eafe1a really help?
[22:20:04] <brion>	 preilly: no idea
[22:20:10] <brion>	 can't repro the problem so ….
[22:20:24] <preilly>	 brion: hmm
[22:20:31] <brion>	 in theory webkit *should* be smart enough to know the image is offscreen and discard it when memory pressure comes, so that shouldn't be necessary
[22:20:36] <brion>	 but…. fuck if i know what really happens
[22:20:46] <preilly>	 brion: ha ha ha
[22:22:40] <GitHub10>	 [WLMMobile] jdlrobson pushed 1 new commit to commons-upload: http://git.io/gXw6QQ
[22:22:40] <GitHub10>	 [WLMMobile/commons-upload] Merge branch 'master' of github.com:wikimedia/WLMMobile into commons-upload - jdlrobson
[22:22:47] <mw-jenkinsbot>	 Project WLMMobile - Nightly builds build #239: SUCCESS in 6.5 sec: https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/WLMMobile%20-%20Nightly%20builds/239/
[22:22:47] <mw-jenkinsbot>	 * jdlrobson: update app rtl css
[22:22:48] <mw-jenkinsbot>	 * rmoen: Created base iOS project files.
[22:22:48] <mw-jenkinsbot>	 * rmoen: Fix errors with icons.  I suck at Xcode.
[22:22:49] <mw-jenkinsbot>	 * brion: Remove old WLMTest xcode project
[22:22:49] <mw-jenkinsbot>	 * brion: Tweak Xcode project to build, move icons back to icons dir :)
[22:22:50] <mw-jenkinsbot>	 * s.mazeland: Localisation updates from http://translatewiki.net.
[22:22:50] <mw-jenkinsbot>	 * jdlrobson: dynamically load latest messages from github
[22:22:51] <mw-jenkinsbot>	 * jdlrobson: don't add desktop upload category to every upload
[22:22:51] <mw-jenkinsbot>	 * brion: Attempt to clear memory by dropping old large preview images before going to the camera.
[22:22:52] <mw-jenkinsbot>	 * jdlrobson: RELEASE 1.2.4
[22:56:32] <jdlrobson>	 tfinc: need you to sign
[22:59:15] <jdlrobson>	 tfinc: grab me when you are free
[23:00:48] <tfinc>	 jdlrobson: ok
[23:01:40] <jdlrobson>	 tfinc: i'm going to grab brion in the mean time - but basically i'm ready to sign apk and create md5 hash and upload
[23:01:48] <brion>	  whee
[23:01:50] <jdlrobson>	 (grabbing brion to talk other matters)
[23:02:28] <tfinc>	 jdlrobson: finishing a meeting. i'll be out in 10
[23:42:32] <tfinc>	 jdlrobson: i'm back