[17:00:11] hey awjr i'm in R66 alone [17:00:12] how do i get us setup? [17:00:39] jdlrobson: no tomasz yet? [17:00:41] nope [17:00:43] just me [17:01:02] there's a webcam on his desk and the yeti microphone is in the standup area in admin alley [17:02:19] weee [17:02:32] man its empty here [17:02:58] tfinc: R66 [17:03:13] MaxSem, tfinc: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/4124731a381a3466fb80f1bcb7640dac8e5454b7?pqs=1&authuser=1&hl=en [17:19:01] fyi: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/New_repositories/Requests for maps stuff [17:34:07] aude, cool! if it's "to puppetize setup", the puppet stuff should be in operations/puppet? [17:42:23] i finally got the verizon jellybean update on my galaxy nexus \o/ [17:42:31] New patchset: Jdlrobson; "remove nearby from left nav" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25043 [17:45:28] ouch, fucked up translation: "Subido mágicamente a través de la Wiki Loves Monuments Mobile App Version $ 1" [17:46:14] New patchset: Jdlrobson; "change first menu link from featured to the sitename" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25044 [17:52:33] jdlrobson, was it 1.2.3 that was broken? [17:52:41] MaxSem: 1.2.4 [17:52:48] thanks [17:53:37] MaxSem tfinc: awjr - so looking at https://mingle.corp.wikimedia.org/projects/mobile/cards/111 I see there is a bit in acceptance criteria for "Language Selector also provides some message about languages that article isn’t available in" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:TRANSLATION#Requesting_a_translation < is there anything we can easily do to request a translation of an article as our first mobile site contribution (e.g. add a temp [17:53:38] to the top of the page)? [17:54:24] jdlrobson, requires moar planning due to cross-wiki compat requirement [17:55:56] MaxSem: is there a special page listing all supported languages? [17:56:12] Special:Sitematrix [17:56:20] thank you! [17:57:15] is there a SiteMatrix just for the current site? [17:57:40] ie. just the first 2 columns in the first table [18:00:58] MaxSem: ^ [18:01:33] yes - get all, throw away the information not needed:P [18:01:52] what do you want exactly - a list of supported languages? [18:02:19] I think I did it for you some time ago, but it got abandoned [18:03:54] ahh yeh. I'll try and find that [18:40:49] but feedback would help [18:43:36] preilly: thanks [18:43:45] tfinc: np [18:49:13] why i see "Mountain View Adobe" on human.io and think it's adobe corp building? ;) [18:49:25] just an adobe bldg [18:58:36] wow… "Security researchers have discovered a single line of code embedded in websites which could wipe all data from your Samsung Galaxy S3 and other smartphones. Samsung smartphones including the Galaxy S3, Galaxy S2, Galaxy Ace, Galaxy Beam and Galaxy S Advance all appear to be affected by the bug which triggers a factory reset on your phone if your web browser is pointed to a particular website. Smartphones can also be directed to the cod [18:58:37] through NFC or using a QR code. Once the process has been initiated, users are have no way of stopping it. The hack was unveiled at the Ekoparty 2012 security conference in Argentina by Ravi Borgaonkar, a security researcher at the Security in Communications department at Technical University Berlin. [18:58:57] jdlrobson: i'm thinking of going to fresh roll today [18:58:57] [18:59:51] lolz [18:59:56] Only Samsung smartphones running the company's proprietary TouchWiz user interface appear to be affected. [19:00:37] As well as wiping all the data from your phone, the hack can be extended to break the SIM card you have in the phone at the time. [19:00:52] Nice work Samsung! [19:04:19] New patchset: Jdlrobson; "remove javascript enhancements to Special:MobileOptions/Language" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25056 [19:04:20] New patchset: Jdlrobson; "correct count of languages on Special:MobileOptions/Language" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25057 [19:04:20] New patchset: Jdlrobson; "clean up link at bottom of list of languages available" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25058 [19:54:30] jdlrobson: you around? [20:26:51] tfinc: OpenPath should contact you via IRC soon [20:26:59] tfinc: about a testing device to borrow [20:27:02] ok [20:29:16] tfinc: I'm overloaded, backlogged and a bit grumpy :P [20:30:19] multichill: I thought the dutch had a legal solution for that? [20:30:34] hahaha [20:31:35] multichill: is that any different then the rest of us ;) [20:31:54] multichill: do you have a better contact for the data issues. we have tons of bad review as a result of them [20:32:08] and i'm eager to capture ideas to make next time better [20:32:53] Talk page of the monuments database? [20:33:13] most of these come through email and those people are not familiar with mw markup [20:33:30] so i can point them but they may get confused real fast [20:34:00] Not to forward them, but we need to collect it somewhere [20:34:03] Is it certain countries? [20:35:29] tfinc ? [20:35:44] UK mostly these days [20:35:58] sometimes GB as a whole [20:36:04] We don't have any data for the UK/GB [20:36:06] hahahaaha! [20:36:21] UK does not have a campaign this year [20:36:28] so there should be no monuments hsowing up in the app for UK [20:36:43] However, there are UK monuments in the database, which is why you still see UK regional subdivisions in the app. [20:37:43] i have heard a lot of complaints about monuments with no location info (eg a lot if not all of the monuments in india) [20:38:06] this is why i asked phil if we should even list in other stores [20:38:19] Oh, right, Scotland [20:38:24] jdlrobson: i took a crack at card #170 (cleanup template spike) [20:38:37] but i have no idea how to timebox it [20:38:58] multichill: to me this is actually a cool opportunity in the app or elsewhere to motivate people to start their own campaigns [20:39:00] i think there are two broad categories of data issues: user facing (eg lack of location data for India) and backend issues (issues that make aspects of the app particularly difficult - eg non-normalized data) [20:39:26] awjr: where are we keeping our post mortem notes about all these upstream data issues ? [20:39:38] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Monuments_database/Statistics makes it quite easy to pinpoint data issues [20:39:46] Like in Scotland no adm1 levels [20:40:12] Or in India only 187 (2.54%) coordinates [20:40:28] tfinc i do not htink we have a centralized place yet. i have notes scattered around in notebooks and evernote, as well as a number of emails between multichill, MaxSem, and myself about backend issues we encountered [20:41:11] WLM ends at some point, https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Monuments_database continues to exist so we should probably collect it over there somewhere [20:41:22] We need a good old data analist ;-) [20:41:25] multichill: nice! [20:41:27] Maryana: in regards to timeboxing, we should keep them pretty short; like the bare minimum amount of time to be able to answer the questions. usually in a range of a few hours, hopefully never more than a day. [20:42:21] awjr: yeah, i was thinking an hour should be enough. but since your example was four hours, i thought maybe i was being a bit too optimistic… heh. [20:42:27] damn priming. [20:42:30] :p [20:43:01] Maryana: go with your gut; we can reality check witht he other engineers as needed [20:43:22] awjr: We should make some sort of lessons learned about the monuments database [20:44:09] multichill: agreed [20:44:14] And maybe some sort of automated tool to identify data issues [20:44:27] One thing I didn't get to is to do proper error reporting [20:45:51] ANd probably in the future fix data issues (up to the local wiki's I'm afraid) and completely re-implement it with some sort of nosql like system [20:47:33] Good night guys [20:47:41] ... and girls... [20:47:59] goodnight multichill [20:48:27] tfinc: i put our wlm project retrospective notes on mw.o and linked to it from the project page: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Monuments_mobile_application/Retrospective [20:48:34] excellent [20:48:45] even in their rough form they work just fine [20:48:52] awjr: when is your QA interview today? [20:48:59] tfinc: 3pm [20:49:37] k [20:56:09] does the mobile site/app support webfonts the same as standard does? [20:56:35] btw, [mobile feedback] mail should give some indication of whether they were originally using the app or not [20:56:50] this is re 2012092410005241 [20:57:25] * jeremyb will bbl much later [21:03:11] awjr: can we move our 1:1 to 30min earlier ? [21:03:51] tfinc: yes [21:24:13] New patchset: Jdlrobson; "move history to its own js submodule" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25174 [21:24:13] New patchset: Jdlrobson; "deal with duplicate calls to history replace and push state" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25175 [21:24:14] New patchset: Jdlrobson; "add generic mw-mf-history-change event" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25176 [21:24:14] New patchset: Jdlrobson; "make use of generic mw-mf-history-change event to close overlays" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25177 [21:24:14] New patchset: Jdlrobson; "Tweak browser back and forward button behviour for language overlay" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25178 [21:24:15] New patchset: Jdlrobson; "run mw-mf-history-change on initial load" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25179 [21:24:22] preilly: i need a network look up on 180.211.96.14 [21:26:55] tfinc: netname: BLAZENET [21:26:56] descr: Blazenet Pvt Ltd [21:26:57] descr: 403 / 404 Sarita Complex [21:26:58] descr: Behind Hotel Classic Gold [21:26:59] descr: Off C. G. Road [21:27:00] country: IN [21:27:40] hmm .. i wonder if thats an WIFI connection [21:41:28] New patchset: Jdlrobson; "only show contact link in footer for non-beta" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25182 [21:41:53] New patchset: Jdlrobson; "remove images on/off from the footer" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25183 [21:46:58] New patchset: Jdlrobson; "remove images on/off from the footer" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25183 [21:48:36] New patchset: Jdlrobson; "remove images on/off from the footer" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25183 [22:59:11] awjr: ready when you are [22:59:18] tfinc: ready [23:41:39] I'm seeing upload summaries of "Subido mágicamente a través de la Wiki Loves Monuments Mobile App Version $ 1" [23:41:46] an extra space in es translation? [23:42:53] Platonides, I've already fixed it on TWN [23:43:32] okay, here's my first version: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25198 [23:46:45] ok MaxSem [23:55:11] MaxSem: Won't you need to use mwscript? [23:55:24] yup, it's a debugging leftoff [23:55:35] heh [23:55:36] the script still needs some love anyway [23:55:47] I did notice "Still rough at the edges" ;) [23:56:33] and I need to fix importImages.php to stop assuming that upload summary === description