[00:05:35] New patchset: preilly; "Add MediaWiki:Mobile.css and Mobile.js to mobile view" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14419 [00:06:16] Change merged: preilly; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/14419 [00:07:08] New patchset: preilly; "File layout refactoring" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24165 [00:12:35] New patchset: preilly; "File layout refactoring" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24165 [00:12:52] Change merged: preilly; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24165 [00:14:19] New review: preilly; "We need to wait for the JS modules referenced to be available in core, this is in another changeset:..." [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master); V: -1 C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/24147 [00:15:28] New review: preilly; "Replacing items in the loop interferes with the iterator and doesn't replace all images correctly." [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master); V: -1 C: -2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/23648 [00:15:54] awjr: Okay, we now only have a few open issues: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/status:open+project:mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend+branch:master,n,z [00:16:05] preilly rad, thank you! [00:16:59] awjr: np — glad to help [00:17:40] awjr: I'll work with jdlrobson on https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/23648/ to create some proper php unit tests for [00:17:46] it [00:36:13] hahha, details on yesterday's SGS III hack: https://twitter.com/pof/status/250540790491787264 [00:37:11] >_< [01:24:02] tfinc: would it make sense to follow the sort of labs approach that google has in labs for the beta [01:27:02] holy shit. [01:27:15] i just figured out how to do mobile login much better than what i've been working on. [01:27:22] so i have to throw away everything i've done so far. [13:53:28] [20:56:09] does the mobile site/app support webfonts the same as standard does? [13:53:31] [20:56:35] btw, [mobile feedback] mail should give some indication of whether they were originally using the app or not [13:53:34] [20:56:50] this is re 2012092410005241 [13:55:17] been offline since this morning [13:55:26] gah [13:55:43] hrmmm, i guess aharoni's been offline since this morning* [17:04:10] should i be concerned that the online indian visa application uses ssl but does not have a trusted certificate? [17:04:50] Is it self signed? [17:06:05] no [17:06:19] signed by the national informatics centre [17:06:34] which appears at least vaguely legitimate :p [17:08:55] hahaha on the actual indian visa application page, there's a link to install their security certificate [17:09:19] https://indianvisaonline.gov.in/certificate/ [17:10:09] awjr: you're welcome :P [17:10:31] :p [17:11:03] awjr: for more fun, check http://www.chennai.bsnl.co.in/, which is the nationalized telephone provider :P [17:11:12] (IIRC biggest broadband/landline provider too) [17:11:28] omg [17:11:34] 1999 called and they want their website back [17:12:11] Yeah, I'm unsure if they could've tried harder [17:12:15] hehehe [17:12:19] yuvipanda: maybe you can help me with this [17:12:30] awjr: sure? [17:12:40] im spposed to select my 'educational qualification' but i don't know what maps to my level of education [17:12:54] what're the options and what's your level? [17:12:57] do you want to do this over PM? [17:13:31] 'below matriculation', 'graduate', 'higher secondary', 'illiterate', 'matriculation', 'na being minor', 'others', 'post graduate', 'professional' [17:13:40] i have a bachelors degree from a 4 year university [17:13:46] nah, no need for pm [17:13:59] that would be 'graduate' [17:14:05] cool thanks [17:14:17] i remember this being easier the last two times i've done it... [17:15:09] hmm, I don't remember filling out a visa form to get here [17:16:30] omg this is so broken [17:16:53] apparently i need ie 8.0 [17:16:57] >_ [17:16:59] < [17:17:04] wow, that's an improvement [17:17:52] ewwwww [17:18:16] brion: did you see http://www.chennai.bsnl.co.in/? [17:18:38] lol jeez i've filled in all my information twice now only to have the page crash each time before going on to page 2 [17:18:38] yuvipanda: my eyes are melting [17:18:42] 1996 wants their web design back [17:18:59] lol brion - [17:18:59] 10:11 [17:18:59] awjr [17:18:59] 10:11 [17:19:00] omg [17:19:00] 10:11 [17:19:01] 1999 called and they want their website back [17:19:08] hehehehe [17:19:32] * awjr hunts for a laptop with ie 8 [17:20:54] awjr: if you need the WMF password to crossbrowsertesting.com, let me know :) [17:20:59] doesn't look like they make it easy to get a sim card [17:21:06] hahahaha [17:21:11] brion in india you mean? [17:21:15] yeah [17:21:16] brion: i've you guys covered on that this time :) [17:21:22] phew [17:21:23] thanks yuvipanda :D [17:21:26] brion it's a major pita [17:21:37] yeah, you kinda need someone local to help [17:21:40] worst case i'll use my german sim for a few text messages ;) [17:22:01] all i'm hearing right is "boo hoo, i have to go to INDIA. waaaa, it's so terrible!" [17:22:05] *right now [17:22:13] hehehe [17:22:13] :) [17:22:15] Maryana: you should talk to jorm for his take on that :D [17:22:16] jusssayin [17:22:41] did jorm hav a particularly enriching experience? [17:22:53] didn't he almost get arrested last time? [17:23:01] what that's a story I haven't heard! [17:23:02] during the whole maps bruhaha? [17:23:05] that may just be a day in the life of jorm [17:23:13] ah, everyone almost got arrested that time [17:23:16] haha [17:23:42] if a hackathon story doesn't end with "… and then we almost all got arrested," ur doing it wrong [17:24:17] I think this was 'first we got stoned by a mob of misplaced-nationalistic-nuts and then we got arrested'. [17:24:20] sounds like more fun :D [17:24:23] * awjr still waiting patiently for windows vista to boot... [17:24:35] There should be a badge for that onwiki somewhere. [17:25:14] hahah [17:26:59] WTF, they're asking about my religion!!!1 Will "none of your motherfucking business" fit in that field? [17:27:37] hahahah [17:29:54] what, they aren't asking you for your caste?! [17:32:12] they wont let you put hyphens in names :( [17:32:44] a lot of them (The passport application one, for example) forces you to type everything in all caps [17:33:27] this is the most infuriating web form i have ever used [17:33:40] * awjr gives up to try again when he's got hours to spare [17:34:24] awjr: potentially check with HR/Travel, and see if they've someone who has done this for someone else before [17:34:44] word [17:34:55] the old online application was a bagillion times easier [17:36:41] don't worry, the Bantustan of Germany has an application system no better than this (excluding the cert lulz) [17:36:56] what no. Theirs at least worked. [17:37:27] you have to fill in a PDF form, print it then call an expensive phone number to schesule an appointment [17:37:41] oh? [17:37:48] mine did the scheduling online [17:38:34] or maybe not. My mind tends to block out such activities [17:39:18] greetings all [17:39:22] MaxSem: ready when you are [17:39:55] * MaxSem is ready, tfinc [17:40:44] yuvipanda: exciting stuff you show you in a few mins [17:40:55] * yuvipanda sits down to get ready for it [17:42:44] http://jonrobson.me.uk/wikipedia/explorer/ :D [17:44:23] jdlrobson: I see only the globe with a link to random article? [17:44:34] yeh it works best when there are actually photos on the article [17:44:36] click the dice in the top right [17:44:56] aaha [17:45:13] clicked about 15 times before a wonderfully awesome picture of a T Rex skull greeted me :) [17:45:29] jdlrobson: you should pick this off from the DYK hooks though :P [17:45:54] did you know hooks? [17:46:07] well, they aren't really hooks. [17:46:14] I just got http://jonrobson.me.uk/wikipedia/explorer/ [17:46:22] sorry wrong link [17:46:23] http://jonrobson.me.uk/wikipedia/explorer/ [17:46:24] grr [17:46:29] why isn't copy paste working [17:46:31] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Did_you_know [17:46:47] are you on an apple device that lost some of its newly acquired features? [17:46:49] that reminds me [17:46:58] anyway.. i found a nice national park using it [17:47:04] we TOTALLY need an API for specifying and retrieving a proper 'thumbnail image' for articles [17:47:16] +1 [17:47:22] by 1 I mean much more than 1 [17:47:27] +10000 [17:47:46] +10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 [17:47:47] 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 [17:48:04] clearly needs more zeroes [17:48:15] jdlrobson: re https://mingle.corp.wikimedia.org/projects/mobile/cards/182 - do you have a use-case particular to the kinds of stuff we're working on now that would capture what you're wanting to achieve? [17:48:46] * jdlrobson looks [17:48:55] awjr: http://jonrobson.me.uk/wikipedia/explorer/ [17:48:57] that's the use case [17:49:03] i only want to show articles with images [17:49:11] also see background [17:49:14] jdlrobson: ok, but how about a use-case specific to the stuff the team is working on? [17:49:37] if that's going to get prioritized, we need something tangible and related to the work we're doing to convince product it's worth our time right now [17:49:41] awjr: http://jonrobson.me.uk/wikipedia/explorer/ < talking with the design team we talked about redesigning the homepage with that widget [17:49:54] it's also a massive enabler for more experiments [17:49:58] jdlrobson: then THAT is the story [17:50:02] personally i think http://jonrobson.me.uk/wikipedia/explorer/ is better than the existing random button [17:50:12] and the api enhancements would be tasks [17:50:30] brion can you slap on some estimation points to https://mingle.corp.wikimedia.org/projects/mobile/cards/132 ? [17:51:19] awjr: I have it an 8, that covers time already spent plus some improvements i'm considering making on the internals [17:51:27] brion sounds good [17:52:00] wow we're going to actually get a way to specify which images are 'content' vs which are not? [17:55:35] awjr: https://mingle.corp.wikimedia.org/projects/mobile/cards/181 < can you move that in to the current iteration since i cannot? [17:55:39] i keep forgetting about it [17:56:06] jdlrobson: i need to talk to product about it, im not sure it will happen in this iteration [17:56:21] jdlrobson: we're about to have a mtg to start prioritizing work for the next sprint and i'll bring it pu then [17:56:24] s/pu/up [17:56:36] i'd still prefer it in ready for analysis so we don't lose sight of it [17:56:43] i think it's now the most important of the stories [17:57:16] i do not disagree; it is ready for analysis, it's just not associated with the current iteration. [17:57:49] it's up to product to prioritize when that happens, i promise i'll bring it up with them when we chat shortly [17:59:29] k [18:00:10] awjr: are we setting up for prio meeting? [18:00:16] somebody needs to set up the hangout i guess [18:00:40] brion: i neglected to ask someone to help with setup :( [18:00:58] biron: there's a webcam on tomasz's desk and the yeti mic is usually in front of the big monitor in admin alley [18:01:07] can you grab those on your way to chambers? [18:01:09] i'll go steal it :D [18:01:12] yes! [18:01:15] i'll set up the hangout [18:01:26] brion: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/8264e640f9bf36e722a384f6a94db370020b4d97?pqs=1&authuser=1&hl=en [18:04:29] awjr: i can't find the webcam [18:04:35] i can sacrifice my laptop if need be [18:05:00] brion ok no worries [18:05:24] * awjr can't wait for the bright future of well-equipped conference rooms [18:06:31] brion i lost you guys, i can't hear you anymore :( [18:06:44] trying chrome [18:22:52] tfinc: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19741350 [18:23:05] tfinc: "Missing children messages go on 404 error pages" ^^ [18:25:03] interesting way to go about it [18:25:12] pretty sad that we have to use a 404 page for that [18:43:55] jdlrobson: do you have plans for lunch? [18:44:27] no.. but i've got a really bad upset stomach from last night [18:44:38] so i need something that can fix that [18:44:46] jdlrobson: hmm [18:52:52] okay, I've made a migration run: https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:WLM_image_from_testwiki&limit=500 [18:54:05] several users din't have an account on Commons - what to do with them? [18:55:01] 3 users who have uploaded 17 images total [18:55:02] hmm [18:55:16] um.. MaxSem latest version of mobile frontend is throwing a javascript error due to some rouge code mw.loader.state({"mobile.site":"ready"}) - any ideas why? [18:55:26] did we turn on resource loader? [18:55:27] can we create accounts for them ? [18:55:39] i'm really surprised to see them have test but not commons account [18:56:26] also exception 'MWException' with message 'ResourceLoaderFileModule::readStyleFile: style file not found: "/Users/jrobson/Sites/w/extensions/MobileFrontend/includes/stylesheets/webkit.css" < MaxSem [18:56:49] exception 'MWException' with message 'ResourceLoaderFileModule::readStyleFile: style file not found: "/Users/jrobson/Sites/w/extensions/MobileFrontend/includes/stylesheets/webkit.css"' in /Users/jrobson/Sites/w/includes/resourceloader/ResourceLoaderFileModule.php:621 to be exact [18:56:57] brion, you're probably the most knowledgeable in the ways of CentralAuth... [18:57:16] ...and brion's hot here...:P [18:57:33] * yuvipanda adds that to quips [19:00:54] ok after a reboot it claims to see my camera [19:01:02] and tfinc found the external one yay [19:01:46] brion, you're probably the most knowledgeable in the ways of CentralAuth... is there a way to create a linked account for a global user who doesn't have one on a wiki? [19:02:16] MaxSem: uh…. log in on that wiki as that user [19:02:39] ...from a server-side script:P [19:03:10] jdlrobson: you'll be happy to know that 'ribbon' is the highest priority card slated for the next iteration. if we run out of stuff to do during this iteration, we can sneak it in as soon as it's better defined. [19:03:39] MaxSem: offhand i don't know, there's not meant to be a convenient way to do that that i know of [19:31:13] New patchset: MaxSem; "Make sure that mobile.site is always raw" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25538 [19:31:41] jdlrobson, ^^^ I wasn't able to reproduce the MWException though [19:37:58] preilly: did you recently apply for an indian visa? [19:39:18] heh [19:52:02] awjr_lunch: I applied for a new one [19:52:32] preilly: what did you put for 'name of the company in india'? [19:52:39] TATA [19:52:55] ah [19:53:07] ok thanks [19:55:51] jdlrobson: I bet you'd be interested in adding use cases to this one :) http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Commons_Mobile_upload_app [20:02:40] jdlrobson: brandon and i are upstairs in the collab space. he's finishing up another meeting, but we're ready to talk cleanup templates when you are [20:08:44] wow. wifi on this new air sucks compared to my old one [20:18:41] MaxSem: so what is stopping from moving test wiki -> commons accounts for these people ? [20:21:25] CentralAuth's creepiness [20:22:55] i'm sure brion and tim can help out with that cruft [20:23:23] i haven't touched centralauth much in years and it's been futzed with a lot since then [20:23:26] i make no guarantees :) [20:23:50] there be dragons [20:23:56] aye [20:24:19] there should be a way to programatically create local linked accounts, but i don't know what it looks like offhand [20:26:09] New patchset: Jdlrobson; "merge .checked class definitions" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25549 [20:26:09] New patchset: Jdlrobson; "reduce specificity" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25550 [20:26:10] New patchset: Jdlrobson; "regenerate mf-settings.css" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25551 [20:29:25] awjr: jon walked brandon & me through the cleanup template hiding feature he built. looks good to us both, so i went ahead & replaced the spike card w/the story card in this iteration. [20:29:29] hope that's ok [20:29:44] New patchset: Jdlrobson; "don't make summary collapsible on special pages" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25552 [20:30:04] Maryana: cool - let's put it in iteration 2 though (i think there was already a stub card created in iteration 2 for this) [20:30:40] ah, ok. i just moved the card from iteration 2 to iteration 1 - feel free to revert [20:31:07] awjr: i'm going to be putting in WLM teardown stories in iteration 2 [20:31:11] hopefully today/tomorrow [20:31:44] tfinc: ok, please sync up with maryana/howie about it so they're prioritized against the other work that's been selected for the iteration [20:31:54] yup [20:32:47] tfinc: if you look at the 'iteration planning' link (under team favorites in mingle), you can see the work we've already selected for iteration 2 (in priority order) [20:39:05] heatherw: grab me outside R61 when you are free [20:39:19] okay! [20:41:52] MaxSem: you there? [20:42:08] yup [20:43:12] your patch doesn't seem to fix the problem for me [20:43:17] (https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/25538/1) [20:43:45] I said I can't repro MWException [20:44:48] one second.. [20:45:04] http://localhost/w/load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=mobile.beta%2Creferences%7Cmobile.beta.jquery%7Cmobile.device.webkit&only=styles&skin=mobile&version=1348778367&* [20:45:07] visit that url [20:45:21] i'm also updating core to check if that's the problem [20:45:56] yeh so if you go to the url it suggests the browser specific stylesheet is not being applied [20:46:26] MaxSem: ^ [20:50:16] jdlrobson, ^^ [20:50:20] New patchset: MaxSem; "Fix device-specific styles" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25553 [20:50:29] ^^ X-D [20:51:18] perfect [20:51:22] thanks MaxSem ! [20:58:48] i wish our articles weren't so frigging big [20:58:58] we used to have a nice warning if you got beyond 32k [20:59:01] i miss those days [20:59:55] brion but didnt you also have to walk uphill to school - both ways - back then? [21:00:06] THROUGH THE SNOW [21:00:21] ahhh yes the good old days. [21:00:51] hitting 30s execution limit whenever i test an article copied from wikipedia? kinda sucks [21:00:59] doh [21:11:53] Change merged: preilly; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25549 [21:12:10] Change merged: preilly; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25550 [21:12:32] Change merged: preilly; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25551 [21:12:58] Change merged: preilly; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25552 [21:13:22] Change merged: preilly; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25538 [21:13:54] Change merged: preilly; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25553 [21:15:02] awjr: so… the ribbon.. i've got heather here and I'd like to suggest we approach working on this differently… in that I think I can estimate it without a design and heather can work on that design alongside me… thoughts> [21:17:03] tfinc: http://www.sfphp.org/events/79228152/?a=md1_grp&eventId=79228152&action=detail&rv=md1&rv=md1 [21:17:24] nice [21:17:29] its a climbing night for me [21:17:35] are you going to go ? [21:17:36] jdlrobson: that sounds fine - it's not slated til the next iteration so whatever work you're doing on it now should be around planning rather than implementation until we get through the rest of the backlog for this iteration. [21:19:47] awjr: we are talking about 'implementing' it and fine tuning as we go along [21:19:58] preilly, thanks [21:20:08] i'm keen to avoid this 'let's throw the design over the fence to developers' and do more of a 'let's work on this design together' [21:22:05] jdlrobson: per your last point, i agree. we might for upcoming iterations i'd like to try spending more focussed time with engineers/designers to come up with mockups [21:22:43] so awjr i think if we look at the story as implement a new nav for page functions it's currently actionable [21:23:03] jdlrobson: but per 'implementing and fine tuning as we go', i think that's a sensible approach that the way we are organizing work is encouraging of. but i do not think that is a good approach to do that within a single story card - it is impossible to estimate [21:23:56] tfinc: possibly [21:24:10] jdlrobson: can we come up with an initial approach captured in the card, and then iterate on it as necessary with future cards? [21:24:35] MaxSem: thanks for what? [21:24:51] es [21:24:53] *yes [21:24:57] awesome [21:25:12] for reviewing my revs so quickly:) [21:28:28] awjr: https://mingle.corp.wikimedia.org/projects/mobile/cards/181 [21:28:30] it's an 8 [21:28:55] maybe a 5 [21:29:33] jdlrobson: that card is back in iterationi 1 - it should be in iteration 2. we can estimate during the estimation meeting next week. if we run out of other stuff to do this iteration, we can try to tackle it. [21:30:29] it is lower priority than the other stuff still outstanding for this iteration [21:31:50] what's higher priority awjr ? [21:32:04] also i've run out of stuff to do :) [21:32:18] jdlrobson: all of the other stuff slated for this iteration [21:32:34] jdlrobson: card #171 is ready to go [21:33:04] so yeh awjr i'm looking at that now [21:33:05] hopefully we'll be getting design assets for the other stuff [21:33:29] k.. i just feel like the designs for the ribbon are better defined then the existing stuff in analysis [21:33:43] so it seems strange to me that they are in there but ribbon is not [21:34:11] okay, the script's at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/25590/ - but I'm not even sure how to test it:P [21:34:26] brion, ^^ [21:34:38] jdlrobson: like i said before, if we run out of other stuff, we can sneak ribbon in there. but we're not there yet. [21:35:56] jdlrobson: looks like the ribbon itself is a shape, so all you need from me are the icons? [21:36:37] MaxSem: sounds feasible. i don't have a centralauth config to test with either... [21:37:58] heatherw: yup [21:38:52] :) [21:41:24] jdlrobson: does the ribbon story replace 'sticky navigation' (#152), or … ? [21:41:39] no it's separate [21:41:50] it's just about creating it [21:41:56] with no thoughts about behaviour [21:42:07] we can Skype if that will help? [21:43:21] sure one sec [21:43:54] actually, jdlrobson, i've got to run out real quick. i'll hit you up later [21:44:36] no worries… sorry if i'm causing you unnecessary pain.. i just feel like there is a lot of confusion :) [21:45:46] no sweat! there's bound to be more as we keep adjusting to all of this :) [21:45:48] bbl [21:52:24] jdlrobson: i have a few things i want to focus on for a bit - can we sync up later in the day? [21:59:44] awjr: sure [22:11:57] New patchset: Jdlrobson; "run mw-mf-search-result trigger after creation of link" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25593 [22:11:58] New patchset: Jdlrobson; "rick roll people searching for "Never Gonna Give You Up"" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25594 [22:12:52] New patchset: Jdlrobson; "rick roll people searching for "Never Gonna Give You Up"" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25594 [22:12:53] * jdlrobson whistles [22:13:30] New patchset: Jdlrobson; "rick roll people searching for "Never Gonna Give You Up"" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25594 [22:14:56] jdlrobson: i wrote a separate spike card for ribbon behavior [22:15:06] thank you Maryana [22:15:36] sure thing :) the original ribbon card is now "ribbon: simplified" [22:16:11] to encourage just making the damn thing and worrying about behavior later [22:18:03] jdlrobson: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/25594/3/javascripts/beta_opensearch.js :D [22:18:35] New review: Aude; ":D" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25594 [22:18:47] New patchset: Jdlrobson; "make the cleanup template 100%" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25595 [22:22:26] New patchset: awjrichards; "Addresses bug #38009" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25596 [22:24:21] New patchset: awjrichards; "Addresses bug #38009" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25596 [22:26:38] Change merged: preilly; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25593 [22:27:21] Change abandoned: preilly; "Reject easter egg... :-(" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25594 [22:27:51] New review: awjrichards; "booo!" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25594 [22:27:53] Change merged: preilly; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25595 [22:28:51] booo! [22:29:10] New review: Jdlrobson; "desktop.js should probably be moved somewhere separate.. it's confusing as in the current setup it c..." [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25596 [22:30:18] aude: sorry [22:30:30] made my day, though :) [22:30:39] aude: heh heh [22:34:19] New review: preilly; "@jdlrobson ? Where do you suggest @awjrichards moves the file and should it be renamed as well?" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master); V: 1 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25596 [22:35:54] jdlrobson: perhaps we could create a new dir in 'javascripts' called 'desktop' and i can plop the js file in there? [22:36:13] i can also add some comments to the js file that it is intended only for desktop use [22:40:09] jdlrobson: d'oh, just realized: if we're including watchlist in the ribbon, it needs to be a logged in only feature until we deal w/the logged out watchlist issue. or it needs to just include language selector for the logged out people and l.s. + watchlist for logged in [22:40:31] awjr: yup [22:40:40] i think a separate folder makes sense [22:40:42] javascript/desktop [22:40:53] it just makes that distinction clearer [22:41:35] word [22:46:34] New patchset: awjrichards; "Addresses bug #38009" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25596 [22:46:54] jdlrobson: ^ [22:55:52] brion, I tested that script on Labs, it works: http://en.wikibooks.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Maxsemtest1 [22:56:03] yay! [22:56:41] so, can you +2? :) [22:57:01] done :D [22:57:50] muchly appreciated:) [23:05:43] New patchset: awjrichards; "Addresses bug #38009" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/25596 [23:10:31] brion do you know if there's a way to do the equivalent of wfIncrStats() in js? [23:11:43] awjr, the equivalent is ClickTracking, but that beast is not MF-compatible [23:12:08] does that mean we don't have a meaningful way to collect stats client-side? [23:12:33] :( [23:12:40] yeah i'm not too familiar with those bits yet [23:12:46] hmm [23:12:54] that might be something work investing some effort into [23:13:11] i might be hung as a traitor to my other team for this, but you all should talk to ori [23:13:17] jdlrobson: do you know if there's a way we can gather stats about events client-side in MF? [23:13:20] ori! [23:13:21] about the event logging we're using in e3 [23:13:36] Maryana: what's his irc handle? [23:13:41] ori-l [23:13:47] ty [23:13:52] np :) [23:14:23] oha ctually, i think i talked to him about this in the context of the WLM app a while back [23:14:29] sounded like it wasn't actually production ready? [23:14:35] i'll ping him [23:16:45] awjr: i just tried to get ori to talk about exactly that.. [23:16:51] he's pretty busy though [23:17:23] lol ok [23:24:11] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/24238/ < awjr can we get someone to merge that now it is +2 [23:25:18] jdlrobson: i'll look in a sec [23:25:28] awjr: thanks [23:27:26] maryana: ping [23:27:35] do we have any copy we want to include on the login screen? [23:27:45] because it's pretty damned plain right now. [23:28:00] just what's there right now, i think? [23:28:14] unless there's some kind of disclaimer we need from legal [23:28:35] there's no copy on the login screen we can use. [23:28:50] embrace the whitespace, then :) [23:28:50] it's all about creating accounts. [23:28:58] Looks weird. [23:29:11] it looks pretty weird on the desktop site, too [23:29:34]