[00:51:37] <Maryana>	 awjr, card on account creation logging added: https://mingle.corp.wikimedia.org/projects/mobile/cards/297
[00:51:48] <Maryana>	 please check over that to make sure i've captured it accurately
[00:56:57] <awjr>	 Maryana: cool thanks
[00:57:39] <awjr>	 Maryana: so you want to do persistent user tracking?
[00:58:02] <Maryana>	 so we can only do it for enwiki users, right?
[00:59:03] <awjr>	 Maryana: currently yes, using what e3 has in place. we can either modify that (from the convo it sounds like it wouldn't be too big of a deal), or for now, just track the # of people creating accounts using ori's event logging magic (that we're already using for tracking section toggles, etc)
[00:59:04] <Maryana>	 i'm not married to the idea. i still need to snag howie and run it by him.
[00:59:14] <awjr>	 okidoke
[00:59:37] <Maryana>	 i'll have that clarified in mingle by EOD today - that cool?
[00:59:45] <awjr>	 perfect, thanks :)
[01:03:25] <awjr>	 Maryana: is howie around up there?
[01:03:45] <Maryana>	 i haven't seen him in awhile, and his calendar is all blocked off
[01:04:07] <Maryana>	 i'm just dropping him a note via email in case he's absconded somewhere for the day
[01:04:14] <Maryana>	 will cc you
[01:05:37] <awjr>	 aight thanks, i gotta chat with him too - perhaps i'll do the same
[01:05:58] <awjr>	 Maryana: also, is the plan for this to happen in beta, or alpha for now and move to beta later in the future? https://mingle.corp.wikimedia.org/projects/mobile/cards/282?tab=All
[01:06:23] <Maryana>	 hrm
[01:07:01] <Maryana>	 i think once we have all that acceptance criteria met, we should be ready to graduate uploads to beta again
[01:08:28] <Maryana>	 let's make all that alpha-specific for now and then add a card to graduate it to beta once we're sure it works. i can tell just from looking at the beta that the bug where the image doesn't get added to the article is still active - want to avoid pushing to beta till we know that's fixed
[01:08:48] <Maryana>	 *looking at the data
[01:08:49] <Maryana>	 heh
[01:08:56] <Maryana>	 beta/data
[01:34:58] <awjr>	 hehe
[01:34:59] <awjr>	 makes sense
[13:51:24] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "refactor image module - add displayPhoto function" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39564
[13:51:24] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "update link on an upload" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39565
[13:51:25] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "add generic function to control display of spinner in image module" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39566
[13:51:25] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "show thumbnail instead of full size image" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39567
[13:51:25] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "show temporary image as thumbnail size" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39568
[14:01:23] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "replace list of image names with a list of thumbnails [alpha]" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39571
[14:04:12] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "add caption as description to newly uploaded photo [alpha]" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39573
[14:16:43] <MaxSem>	 omg spammer
[14:56:16] <yuvipanda>	 SPAMMER JON
[14:57:43] <aharoni>	 yo yuvipanda meet orsa
[14:57:51] * yuvipanda  waves at orsa 

[14:57:53] <yuvipanda>	 hello!
[14:58:07] <yuvipanda>	 aharoni: didn't we decide on having a meeting every thursday?
[14:58:13] <aharoni>	 we did.
[14:58:15] <orsa>	 Hi Yuvi
[14:58:17] <aharoni>	 can you come now?
[14:58:24] <aharoni>	 it's in a hangout.
[14:58:34] <yuvipanda>	 Y I NO GET INVITE? :(
[14:58:35] <yuvipanda>	 sure
[14:58:36] <yuvipanda>	 link?
[14:58:49] <aharoni>	 orsa is inviting you
[14:58:53] <orsa>	 your invited
[14:59:17] <yuvipanda>	 i got nothing?
[14:59:37] <yuvipanda>	 url?
[15:42:48] <Reedy>	 MaxSem:
[15:42:49] <Reedy>	 Fatal error:  Call to a member function getPrevious() on a non-object in /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.21wmf6/extensions/MobileFrontend/includes/specials
[15:43:10] <MaxSem>	 yeah, Brion should be working on it
[15:43:15] <Reedy>	 /SpecialMobileDiff.php on line 16
[15:43:24] <Reedy>	 just checking it was known
[17:00:15] <Krenair>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Extension:MobileFrontend/Deployments&action=history Should I just give this user the ability to edit without review?
[17:03:31] <MaxSem>	 Krenair, done, thanks for noticing
[17:05:03] <Krenair>	 You don't actually need to add autochecked, it's rights (autoreview, autopatrol) are part of editor
[17:06:57] <MaxSem>	 meh
[17:07:05] <MaxSem>	 does no harm, I guess:)
[17:39:11] <yuvipanda>	 Maryana: the office hours is in another 20 mins, right?
[17:40:28] <Maryana>	 yep yep
[17:56:34] <brion>	 hey jdlrobson, you in london now or still traveling?
[17:56:44] <jdlrobson>	 hey brion in london yep
[17:56:46] <jdlrobson>	 very confused
[17:56:49] <brion>	 excellent
[17:56:49] <brion>	 heh
[17:56:54] <jdlrobson>	 the clock says 6pm
[17:57:07] <jdlrobson>	 but i don't remember sleeping since I left you guys yesterday
[17:59:05] <brion>	 sleep is for the weak
[17:59:15] <Maryana>	 office hours in #wikimedia-office :)
[17:59:24] <Maryana>	 ^ jdlrobson, brion
[17:59:37] * yuvipanda  throws a large pillow at jdlrobson 

[17:59:44] <brion>	 whee
[18:00:57] <MaxSem>	 awjr, #wikimedia-office
[18:01:05] <awjr>	 MaxSem: im there :)
[18:10:04] <kwadhwa>	 I want to buy some sleep
[18:10:17] <jorm>	 i have some pills i can sell you.
[18:11:21] <kwadhwa>	 as long as you babysit my kids while I'm passed out. It's gotta be a package deal
[18:14:03] <Reedy>	 kwadhwa: Put them on google hangout and let staff watch them remotely
[18:15:42] <kwadhwa>	 Reedy: I'm gonna need some insurance on that before I pitch that idea to the wifey
[18:19:25] <MaxSem>	 tfinc, our 1:1 clashes with office hours
[18:19:35] <tfinc>	 MaxSem: i just moved it
[18:19:40] <tfinc>	 after noticing it
[18:19:49] <MaxSem>	 cool
[18:24:48] <jdlrobson>	 internet is slow in uk
[18:25:36] <MaxSem>	 jdlrobson, god savde he queen!
[18:26:38] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "refactor when to show photo uploader" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39519
[18:26:39] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "define when photos should appear on articles" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39520
[18:27:36] <MaxSem>	 I said god save the queen, not jdlrobson flood us with commits!:P
[18:34:24] <jcmish>	 is it wrong to through out questions about tablet usage
[18:34:32] <jcmish>	 in the office chat?
[18:34:48] <jcmish>	 I kind of wonder how many editors use phones vs tablets
[18:34:58] <jcmish>	 Maryana: ^
[18:35:04] <MaxSem>	 why not? fire away
[18:35:24] <Maryana>	 go for it!
[18:35:25] <Maryana>	 :)
[18:35:37] <Maryana>	 it's pretty quiet. may as well stir things up
[18:35:52] <jcmish>	 hehe
[18:36:16] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "limit photo uploads to talk and article namespaces" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39521
[18:36:16] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "define when photos should appear on articles" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39520
[18:37:09] <jdlrobson>	 Maryana: time to get out the pictures of cute kittens?
[18:37:44] <Maryana>	 haha
[18:37:58] <Maryana>	 yesss
[18:43:26] <jdlrobson>	 seriously.. the end of the world is on the news channels in the uk
[18:43:28] <jdlrobson>	 how stupid
[18:45:06] <jcmish>	 no way!
[18:45:24] <jcmish>	 It's like when 2000 happened
[18:45:27] <jcmish>	 very nutty people
[18:46:20] <yuvipanda>	 jcmish: enjoying the snow? :)
[18:46:33] <jcmish>	 yes
[18:46:39] <jcmish>	 it's melting though :(
[18:46:46] <jcmish>	 we did at least get to make a snowman
[18:46:54] <yuvipanda>	 should teleport some of it to here. will never melt :)
[18:46:57] * yuvipanda  has never seen snow in his life

[18:47:27] <jcmish>	 hahahhaha
[18:47:51] <jcmish>	 I love snow and where we live in colorado doesn't really get a lot
[18:48:02] <jcmish>	 so I'm always happy to see it
[18:48:10] <yuvipanda>	 :D
[18:48:11] <yuvipanda>	 nice
[18:50:17] <yuvipanda>	 brion: any luck on mobile i18n page?
[18:50:43] <brion>	 ah forgot to touch it yet
[18:51:51] <yuvipanda>	 brion: today?
[18:51:56] <yuvipanda>	 helllo legoktm
[18:52:04] <brion>	 i'll see, today's all meetings \o/
[18:52:54] <yuvipanda>	 brion: is that a 'all meetings, so i can sneak work in' or 'all meetings, so can't do'
[18:53:11] <brion>	 we'll see how the meetings go ;)
[18:53:11] <jdlrobson>	 end of the world party in a russian cold war bunker in moscow - going max? sounds fun
[18:59:13] <Amgine>	 $1k. Too rich for me, no matter how much caviar/vodka.
[18:59:19] <yuvipanda>	 brion: do you have a general idea of what's going to go into that page?
[18:59:56] <brion>	 not yet :D
[19:00:01] <yuvipanda>	 ah
[19:00:02] <yuvipanda>	 :D
[19:00:03] <yuvipanda>	 ok
[19:01:37] * brion  wanders upstairs whee

[19:13:33] <MaxSem>	 awjr, I've addressed your comment at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/39377/
[19:29:44] <awjr>	 MaxSem: cool - it LOOKS ok but im not sure how/where to test?
[19:32:00] <brion>	 Maryana: my calendar lists a check-in at noon w/ you and vibha about watch list but i'll be in 'discuss testing tools' meeting at the same time. d'oh!
[19:36:04] <Maryana>	 brion, sorry, was catching up w/jcmish
[19:36:10] <Maryana>	 is there a better time for you today?
[19:36:26] <brion>	 i'm free at 3pm
[19:36:37] <brion>	 after the story prioritization
[19:36:52] <jcmish>	 MaxSem:  awjr is this bug something that we should pull in? https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43280
[19:37:32] <Maryana>	 brion: that sounds good. vibha's changing the invite to 3-3:30
[19:37:40] <brion>	 spiffy
[19:42:09] <MaxSem>	 jcmish, lemme fix that
[19:43:37] <jcmish>	 oh cool thanks MaxSem
[19:45:58] * yuvipanda  goes to bed

[19:46:05] <yuvipanda>	 brion: hopefully you can pick that today
[19:48:39] <tfinc>	 awjr: i'm really digging the adafruit pibow case. its awesome
[19:49:12] <MaxSem>	 awjr, I've conococted an old killist entry on staging - you can test there: export MW_INSTALL_PATH=/var/www ; php solrupdate.php --clear-killlist 1
[19:49:25] <tfinc>	 i'm now fully prepared to take it down to SoCal and not destroy it in transit
[19:49:32] <MaxSem>	 after it geo_killlist should be empty
[19:58:41] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: MaxSem; "Bug 43280 - Cache shouldDisplayMobileView() results" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39617
[20:05:38] <awjr>	 https://speakerdeck.com/jarib/automating-130-browser-platform-and-language-combinations-without-going-insane
[20:06:31] <jcmish>	 awjr:  you beat me too it
[20:07:16] <awjr>	 :)
[20:23:48] <awjr>	 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/QA/running_and_writing_browser_tests
[20:23:54] <awjr>	 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Groups/Proposals/Browser_testing
[20:24:02] <awjr>	 https://wmf.ci.cloudbees.com/
[20:26:59] <awjr>	 https://github.com/wikimedia/qa-browsertests
[20:27:21] <awjr>	 chrismcmahonbrb: if you've got more links, would you mind posting them in here?
[20:28:07] <chrismcmahonbrb>	 awjr: most everything is linked from here:  http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Groups/Proposals/Browser_testing
[20:28:22] <awjr>	 awesome thanks chrismcmahon
[20:42:07] <jgonera>	 chrismcmahon, do you use GitHub or is it only a mirror?
[20:43:21] <chrismcmahon>	 jgonera: github is a mirror of https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/admin/projects/qa/browsertests
[20:43:36] <jgonera>	 ok, thanks
[20:44:24] <jcmish>	 they messed up our yummy order :D
[20:44:38] <jcmish>	 my husband won't let me eat so he can take it back and get the right thing
[20:44:42] <jcmish>	 was SOO close :D
[20:45:40] <tfinc>	 MaxSem: http://www.opensourcedays.org/2012/
[20:48:34] <tfinc>	 jcmish: do you have anything for me today? i'm going to move it to a two week cycle unless you have anything
[20:48:51] <jcmish>	 no sir
[20:48:53] <tfinc>	 k
[20:49:02] <jcmish>	 sounds good
[20:49:51] <jdlrobson>	 tfinc: https://twitter.com/bryanconnor/status/281769638373769217
[20:49:55] <jdlrobson>	 know you like these
[20:50:08] <tfinc>	 jdlrobson: were doing it right
[20:50:12] <tfinc>	 jdlrobson: i want more of those
[20:50:16] <tfinc>	 we need metrics on desktop users on mobile
[20:50:41] <tfinc>	 i should just get access to the data an drum some rerpots over break
[20:50:48] <tfinc>	 jdlrobson: hows home? i bet their happy to have you
[20:50:51] <tfinc>	 were jealous over here
[20:50:51] <tfinc>	 :D
[20:51:04] <jdlrobson>	 the plane destroyed me i'm about 10x as ill as i was when i left
[20:51:05] <jdlrobson>	 but it's nice to be here
[20:51:19] <jdlrobson>	 i'm still a bit disorientated
[20:51:36] <jdlrobson>	 tfinc: did you check out the video?
[20:54:01] <tfinc>	 jdlrobson: drink some whiskey
[20:54:39] <awjr_lunch>	 MaxSem just saw your note about killist on staging, i'll test in a bit. thanks!
[20:54:47] <awjr_lunch>	 tfinc: sweet dude!
[20:54:49] <awjr_lunch>	 (re the case)
[20:55:31] <MaxSem>	 awjr, Niklas has already approved it
[20:55:46] <awjr>	 MaxSem: heh well nevermind then
[20:56:05] <MaxSem>	 hmm, Submitted, Merge Pending
[20:56:12] <MaxSem>	 was ist das?
[20:57:49] <awjr>	 MaxSem: just merged
[21:02:33] <Maryana>	 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Can.27t_expand_sections_in_mobile_version_of_this_article <-- ruh roh
[21:08:20] <rmoen>	 Maryana: That article works fine on my iphone.
[21:08:29] <Maryana>	 weird
[21:13:52] <jdlrobson>	 Maryana: that sounds like caching issues due to deployment
[21:13:56] <jdlrobson>	 we get those all the time
[21:14:43] <jdlrobson>	 it's doing the same for me
[21:14:48] <jdlrobson>	 appending debug=true fixes it
[21:14:54] <jdlrobson>	 not sure why that didn't get flushed
[21:15:04] <jdlrobson>	 can't wait for dynamic sections to make this problem go away
[21:17:45] <Maryana>	 ok, i'll let him know
[21:31:38] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "show watchlist star when not logged in [beta]" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37048
[21:32:53] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "style watching action as a toast notification" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39684
[21:36:49] <Krenair>	 kwadhwa, having internet problems?
[21:45:47] <Amgine>	 Must be on xyr phone.... </irony>
[21:56:19] <awjr>	 did footer toggling go away in master?
[22:06:14] <awjr>	 nm i broke my local environment
[22:06:59] <awjr>	 MaxSem:  have you played with vagrant at all?
[22:07:05] <MaxSem>	 no
[22:07:26] <awjr>	 i have another idea for experimentation time but i dont know how i'll get through all of these ideas any time soone
[22:07:53] <awjr>	 but it would be cool to package up a vagrant instance for MobileFrontend that would provide a varnish caching layer and would configure a local desktop-specific and mobile-specific domain
[22:12:35] <jcmish>	 awjr:  ohh that sounds cool
[22:12:46] <awjr>	 i dont think it would be TOO hard
[22:13:47] <awjr>	 i've been using varnish locally for a while now and just got it set up so i can emulate desktop/mobile domains on my local box. so when varnish sees im coming from the .m variant, it will set the x-device header and always serve the mobile version of the site
[22:16:05] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: awjrichards; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39617
[22:21:24] <brion>	 dfoy: to check on the congo thing -- should it display as Ki-Kongo or Kikongo?
[22:21:51] <dfoy>	 brion: it should appear as Kikongo
[22:21:55] <brion>	 excellent
[22:22:02] <brion>	 ok so the good news is, i can hack this in with a one-line change
[22:22:23] <dfoy>	 ok I'm sure they'll be happy with that
[22:22:26] <brion>	 yep :)
[22:22:33] <brion>	 so that can go out with whatever the next deploy time is
[22:22:56] <dfoy>	 Ok I'll let them know to check sometime tomorrow
[22:23:11] <dfoy>	 Thanks!
[22:24:36] <kwadhwa>	 Krenair - sometimes but not in this case. Had to step out for a while for my physical therapy session
[22:27:47] <brion>	 dfoy: ok i've got the change in gerrit and requested a review from patrick
[22:27:57] <brion>	 i'll drop y'all an email about it as well
[22:28:18] <dfoy>	 brion: ok great
[22:31:11] <tfinc>	 brion: if we don't hear from preilly quick who else can we ask to review ?
[22:31:50] <brion>	 tfinc: i might be able to +2 them unless the system stops me from +2'ing myself. :)
[22:31:54] <brion>	 you might be able to, not sure
[22:31:58] <tfinc>	 bad practice!
[22:32:00] <tfinc>	 ;)
[22:32:03] <brion>	 hehe
[22:32:29] <tfinc>	 i'm thinking we might be able to pull awjr in if preilly is busy
[22:32:31] <brion>	 do we need to schedule a deploy? it's a one-line fix, should be easy
[22:32:32] <tfinc>	 for the review
[22:32:32] <brion>	 *nod*
[22:32:41] <awjr>	 ohai
[22:32:49] <tfinc>	 one line? you mean you haven't deployed it already?
[22:32:53] <tfinc>	 :D
[22:33:00] <brion>	 we have processes now :)
[22:33:09] <brion>	 in the olden days we'd have hacked that shit right on the server!
[22:33:39] <tfinc>	 back in my day we had to write our code, put it on a floppy, and then run uphill to the data center!
[22:33:42] <tfinc>	 kids these days ...
[22:33:47] <awjr>	 through the snow?
[22:33:52] <awjr>	 uphill both ways?
[22:34:01] <brion>	 of course
[22:34:05] <rmoen>	 awjr, tfinc: uphill through the snow both ways
[22:34:09] <brion>	 you put the data center on a hill so the downloads go faster
[22:34:16] <awjr>	 lmao
[22:34:59] <awjr>	 im happy to review whatevs - and if it's a quick deployment (like just a sync-file or whatever) we can probably sneak it in whenever
[22:35:34] <brion>	 yeah a single sync-file should do it
[22:36:22] <awjr>	 in fact, there's a very special time scheduled for these kinds of things, it seems - 'Lightning deploy time', which apparently is for quick unscheduled deployments. this is new to me… but the window starts at 4pm local.
[22:36:30] <tfinc>	 but back in my day scap didn't suck
[22:36:45] <awjr>	 brion is this something for zero?
[22:36:50] <brion>	 awjr: yep
[22:37:02] <tfinc>	 awjr: cr. i figure you can help if preilly doesn't respond in the next 24 hrs
[22:37:08] <brion>	 language name tweak for the zero landing page
[22:37:12] <tfinc>	 i'm not clear on what his availability is
[22:37:16] <awjr>	 okidoke
[22:37:20] <brion>	 sweet
[23:37:14] <MaxSem>	 Susan, problem with names?
[23:37:45] <Susan>	 Bouncer got disconnected, I guess. Switched to an altnick.
[23:38:23] <Maryana>	 i wonder how many people just assume i'm your altnick, susan...
[23:38:29] <Maryana>	 :)
[23:38:31] <Susan>	 :D
[23:38:42] <Susan>	 I assumed terrrydactyl was Terry Chay until yesterday.
[23:38:44] <Susan>	 It happens.
[23:38:59] <Maryana>	 ha
[23:44:18] <MaxSem>	 Please review: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39713
[23:58:45] <brion>	 MaxSem: looks good, +2'd it
[23:59:45] <tfinc>	 rmoen: be there in 5
[23:59:49] <MaxSem>	 cheers!