[00:00:03] <rmoen>	 tfinc: ok cool
[00:48:26] <tfinc>	 brion: awjr : heads up about a hiring request in your inbox. it won't take you more then 5-10 min but i need a quick turn around time
[00:48:40] <brion>	 tfinc: doing it now :D
[00:49:02] <awjr>	 cool!
[00:51:36] <brion>	 \o/
[00:54:49] * tfinc  is very eager for the break so that he can write some upstream patches for rasBMC, retroArch,  RetroPie-Setup and more

[00:55:05] <tfinc>	 and learning how wireless works from a linux cli
[00:55:11] <tfinc>	 dear god does it look dumb
[01:06:00] <tfinc>	 awjr: brion wrote up a pretty awesome note. I'm eager to see how you 1-up it
[01:06:13] <awjr>	 damn, i knew i should've gotten it in first
[01:58:36] <jcmish>	 awww awjr you know i like a challange!
[01:58:43] <awjr>	 :p
[01:59:03] <jcmish>	 very cool I'd get that in as part of the acceptance process
[01:59:53] <awjr>	 awesome jcmish, thank you
[02:00:25] <jcmish>	 no prob
[10:57:22] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "don't bind the jQuery shim to $" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39743
[11:04:14] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "protect against no jQuery" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39746
[11:43:35] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "drop summary section toggling [beta]" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39748
[11:43:56] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Jdlrobson; "Waiting on data from Maryana to include in the commit message" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39748
[11:51:57] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "remove close this section [beta]" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39750
[11:52:33] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Jdlrobson; "Code fine but commit message should include information on real data from Maryana to justify." [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39750
[12:08:11] <MaxSem>	 hey jdlrobson
[12:08:20] <jdlrobson>	 Hey MaxSem :)
[12:08:43] <MaxSem>	 enjoying your jetlag?:P
[12:08:52] <jdlrobson>	 nooooo
[12:16:36] <jdlrobson>	 MaxSem: i'm enjoying creating a huge code review backlog though ;-)
[12:39:45] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "i18n get rid of html messages in MobileFrontend (bug 36109)" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39753
[12:46:50] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "new approach to tables (alpha)" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39343
[13:02:50] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "move search specific styling into mf-search.css" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39754
[13:04:37] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "remove edit toggle module dependency (bug 43246)" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39755
[13:07:24] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "move search specific styling into mf-search.css" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39754
[13:56:53] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "check watch status for multiple articles in one request (bug 42587)" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39758
[14:04:46] <jdlrobson>	 MaxSem: any views on how to fix https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42962 ?
[14:05:27] <jdlrobson>	 I feel like http://test.m.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=mobileview&format=json&page=San+Francisco&redirects=yes&prop=sections%7Ctext&noheadings=yes&sectionprop=level%7Cline%7Canchor&sections=all needs to be repurposed to include other information about the article - e.g. language versions
[14:05:39] <MaxSem>	 yeah
[14:05:49] <MaxSem>	 I was actually poking at it
[14:05:51] <jdlrobson>	 sweet
[14:05:59] <MaxSem>	 but it's intermixed with Zero
[14:06:03] <jdlrobson>	 let me know when you have a patch and need some frontend work
[14:06:35] <MaxSem>	 so I need to sync with Brion
[14:06:48] <MaxSem>	 and whenever he's around I forget about it
[14:06:50] <jdlrobson>	 just grabbing lunch … anything you need before i go?
[14:06:55] <jdlrobson>	 i know the feeling MaxSem :)
[14:07:08] <MaxSem>	 it's not hard to do, but pretty hard to test
[14:07:20] <MaxSem>	 jdlrobson, no
[14:07:30] <jdlrobson>	 cool back in a bit then :)
[14:08:31] <jdlrobson>	 oh btw i anticipate categories will be needed in the above response soon as well
[15:04:36] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "don't show edit link on protected pages (bug 41518)" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39766
[15:21:00] <yuvipanda>	 MaxSem: i suppose we should add all the things that action=parse has?
[15:21:02] <yuvipanda>	 to mobileview?
[15:21:12] <yuvipanda>	 or make mobileview an option in parse :P
[15:25:48] <MaxSem>	 parse will work differently with sections
[15:26:02] <yuvipanda>	 we'll be doing a lot of duplication otherwise, no?
[15:27:38] <MaxSem>	 we'll see
[15:27:48] <MaxSem>	 a strategic plan is needed
[15:28:24] <yuvipanda>	 for?
[15:31:04] <MaxSem>	 what features we'll need in middle term, at least
[15:32:47] <yuvipanda>	 ah, right
[15:58:46] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Zfilipin; "Setup for Selenium tests" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39771
[16:10:26] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Zfilipin; "The first two Selenium tests: mobile Search" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39773
[17:22:01] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "only enable random module when history api supported" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39777
[17:25:05] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "respect address bar in random suggestions (bug 43241)" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39778
[17:47:10] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "show message when watchlist view is empty (bug 42745)" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39782
[17:49:51] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "fix rendering of login form on firefox (bug 43247)" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39783
[17:59:07] * MaxSem  looks around

[18:01:45] <MaxSem>	 staaanduuup!
[18:02:10] <brion>	 d'oh "You are not allowed to join this hangout."
[18:02:12] <brion>	 back to chrome...
[18:02:36] <jdlrobson>	 brion: i keep getting that
[18:02:43] <jdlrobson>	 another weird thing is the link doesn't show up in my personal calendar
[18:02:46] <jdlrobson>	 only my work calendar
[18:02:49] <brion>	 jdlrobson: try logging in with just your @wikimedia.org acct
[18:02:53] <jdlrobson>	 yeh i do
[18:02:56] <jdlrobson>	 it's just annoying :)
[18:02:59] <brion>	 bah
[18:03:23] <brion>	 i'm in...
[18:06:47] <brion>	 dum de dum
[18:06:53] <jdlrobson>	 waiting for awjr i gues?
[18:06:54] <brion>	 well i'll just keep playing with firefox os :)
[18:06:57] <brion>	 yep
[18:08:50] * brion  waves tfinc 

[18:08:59] <brion>	 10:15 then?
[18:10:06] <tfinc>	 brion: yup
[18:10:16] <brion>	 whee
[18:10:18] <tfinc>	 if he doesn't show up by then .. we'll just go
[18:10:23] <brion>	 sounds good
[18:12:52] <tfinc>	 jgonera: we'll do 10:15 regardless of wether arthur is here or not
[18:13:09] <jgonera>	 tfinc, ok
[18:27:09] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "drop summary section toggling [beta]" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39748
[18:29:08] <tfinc>	 jdlrobson: thanks for the hiring write up
[18:30:49] <jdlrobson>	 tfinc: np
[18:31:37] <jdlrobson>	 Maryana: you got mail
[18:32:14] * Maryana  looks

[18:32:21] <jdlrobson>	 quite keen to fix this before i sign off
[18:33:08] <Maryana>	 yeah, sorry - jump_back_1 etc. are the anchors. i just renamed them for the benefit of anybody looking at the table who didn't know what an anchor was
[18:33:10] <tfinc>	 awjr: do we need to push on 12/25 ?
[18:33:15] <tfinc>	 we currently have that window
[18:33:41] <awjr>	 tfinc no, i rescheduled for 12/26 (on the engineering calendar)
[18:34:21] <awjr>	 tfinc but the software deployments page didn't have next week set up yet so i didnt adjust it there.
[18:34:31] <awjr>	 tfinc also, we should just cancel deployment for the week of 1/1
[18:34:53] <tfinc>	 awjr: will we need ops support for that push?
[18:34:58] <tfinc>	 aka .. varnish cache purge
[18:35:05] <Maryana>	 jdlrobson ^
[18:35:05] <awjr>	 tfinc on 12/26? likely
[18:35:16] <jdlrobson>	 ahh ok thanks Maryana !
[18:35:24] <Maryana>	 np, sorry for the confusion :)
[18:35:48] <tfinc>	 awjr: leslie will be on call. make sure to message her a day before so that she has a heads up
[18:35:55] <awjr>	 tfinc sure thing
[18:37:36] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda: yo
[18:37:41] <tfinc>	 thanks for the quick turn around
[18:37:43] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: yo
[18:38:12] <yuvipanda>	 my connection and latex are being a particular category of domesticated wolves, so I'll have to send that in a bit later
[18:38:43] <yuvipanda>	 and yes, excited to be back soon :)
[18:38:43] <tfinc>	 awjr: our window on 12/26 is missing
[18:38:56] <awjr>	 tfinc ?
[18:39:08] <tfinc>	 were editing it here but i don't see it http://etherpad.wmflabs.org/pad/p/Deployments
[18:39:08] * yuvipanda  pokes brion with https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mobile_i18n

[18:39:18] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "remove close this section [beta]" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39750
[18:39:22] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda: has much changed since your last resume
[18:39:23] <tfinc>	 ?
[18:39:29] <tfinc>	 i'm thinking of just using whatever old one
[18:39:48] <awjr>	 tfinc i updated the google calendar invite on the engineering calendar but the week of 12/24 was not ready on the deployments page so i hadn't added it there yet
[18:39:58] <jdlrobson>	 yeyy Maryana - maths - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39750
[18:40:10] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: I don't remember my last resume :D let me look
[18:40:33] <Maryana>	 data driven like a boss
[18:41:30] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: I think it hasn't seen any major updates for almost 2 years, and I think i'll have to fix that
[18:43:59] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda: hiring wise. were only blocked on your resume
[18:44:21] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: i'll see if i can get it to you today
[18:44:33] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda: even if its just a first pass
[18:44:36] <tfinc>	 you can always  update it later
[18:44:49] <yuvipanda>	 oh, sure then. I *should* be able to get it to you in the next few hours then
[18:44:50] <tfinc>	 i want to get the jd/hiring packet/rfp approved today so that we can schedule with Sue
[18:44:54] <tfinc>	 post you can always update it
[18:45:19] <tfinc>	 awjr: stop by my desk when you get a chance
[18:45:38] <tfinc>	 no meetings for the rest of the day … ZOMG
[18:45:58] <awjr>	 tfinc sure thing, i've cloistered myself to focus for a minute - i'll be out shortly
[18:46:00] * tfinc  schedules a meeting with himself so that no one else does

[18:46:04] <tfinc>	 awjr: no rush at all
[18:46:08] <tfinc>	 awjr: non work related
[18:46:16] <awjr>	 tfinc k cool
[18:46:26] <GitHub30>	 [WLMMobile] siebrand pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/fdmViA
[18:46:26] <GitHub30>	 WLMMobile/master 506a069 Siebrand Mazeland: Localisation updates from http://translatewiki.net.
[18:46:41] <mw-jenkinsbot>	 Project WLMMobile - Nightly builds build #249: SUCCESS in 10 sec: https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/WLMMobile%20-%20Nightly%20builds/249/
[18:46:42] <mw-jenkinsbot>	 s.mazeland: Localisation updates from http://translatewiki.net.
[18:46:42] <wikipedia-github>	 [WikipediaMobile] siebrand pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/RIamUA
[18:46:42] <wikipedia-github>	 WikipediaMobile/master 601e012 Siebrand Mazeland: Localisation updates from http://translatewiki.net.
[18:46:48] <mw-jenkinsbot>	 Project WiktionaryMobile - Nightly builds build #110: SUCCESS in 10 sec: https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/WiktionaryMobile%20-%20Nightly%20builds/110/
[18:46:49] <mw-jenkinsbot>	 s.mazeland: Localisation updates from http://translatewiki.net.
[18:46:54] * tfinc  realizes that hearing your boss say stop ay my desk may sound worse then it actually is when not given context

[18:47:02] <mw-jenkinsbot>	 Project WikipediaMobile - Nightly builds build #474: SUCCESS in 10 sec: https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/WikipediaMobile%20-%20Nightly%20builds/474/
[18:47:03] <mw-jenkinsbot>	 s.mazeland: Localisation updates from http://translatewiki.net.
[18:47:06] <jgonera>	 jdlrobson, why do we use DOM elements ([0]) instead of jQuery objects?
[18:47:09] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "show watchlist star when not logged in [beta]" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/37048
[18:47:46] * yuvipanda  pokes tfinc to poke brion about https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mobile_i18n again 

[18:47:58] * yuvipanda  also curses LaTeX

[18:48:02] <jdlrobson>	 jgonera: to ensure that only one element is passed rather than a selector matching several elements? (although we could just enforce this using eq( ?
[18:48:09] * tfinc  preps the multi neighborhood poking stick at brion 

[18:48:20] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda: brion is WFH today so your pokes are as good as mine
[18:48:23] <jdlrobson>	 i'm signing off in a bit - let me know if you need anything :)
[18:48:26] <brion>	 ahhhh the pokes
[18:48:35] * yuvipanda  brings out the comfy chair

[18:48:46] <yuvipanda>	 next up it'll be the cusions!
[18:49:32] <jgonera>	 jdlrobson, this doesn't help us, I mean we should simply assume that the selector selects only one element. if it selects more than one element it's obviously a mistake and we actually can't say if [0] is the right one or maybe [1] or [54]
[18:50:48] <jdlrobson>	 jgonera: i'm not too fussed either way - just a habit i've formed - not sure if it's a good one or bad one
[18:51:01] <jgonera>	 jdlrobson, if you want to be super-sure you can check .length at the beginning of the function, but do not make the argument a DOM element
[18:51:17] <jgonera>	 jdlrobson, I've never seen anyone doing that ;)
[18:53:06] <jgonera>	 jQuery provides a wrapper around the DOM and we should either use it or not, using it in one place and not using it in another is inconsistent
[18:53:45] <jdlrobson>	 jgonera: fine with me
[18:53:56] <jdlrobson>	 can you update style guidelines?
[18:54:45] <jdlrobson>	 actually we don't have any in this project we just use https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Coding_conventions/JavaScript - maybe a discussion for there
[18:55:50] <jdlrobson>	 anything more needed from me?
[18:55:51] <jdlrobson>	 i'm about to sign off
[18:56:43] <jgonera>	 I guess not, I'll review what's left soon
[18:57:10] <brion>	 CardinalPanda: i've added some notes and done some bolding & strikethroughing on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mobile_i18n let me know if you agree :)
[18:57:14] <jgonera>	 jdlrobson, how do I start a discussion there? I just edit the article?
[18:58:44] <tfinc>	 awjr:  MaxSem: SRE info in your inbox :D
[18:59:12] <tfinc>	 i am very excited that were finally hiring them
[18:59:29] <awjr>	 w00t
[18:59:36] <MaxSem>	 o_0
[19:00:05] <tfinc>	 i've been a similar role before and it makes things so much easier. i've also known dozens of SRE's at other companies
[19:00:35] <tfinc>	 practically this will be a project (mobile,e3, e2) focused ops person
[19:00:35] <MaxSem>	 tfinc, you're hired!
[19:00:54] <tfinc>	 MaxSem: sweet. same pay but more responsibility ?
[19:01:22] <jdlrobson>	 jgonera: talk page probably
[19:01:45] <jdlrobson>	 right i'm signing off guys
[19:01:46] <jdlrobson>	 happy friday
[19:02:18] <Maryana>	 bye jdlrobson - get some rest!
[19:05:34] <brion>	 uggggh gitweb is sooooo sloowwwww
[19:06:53] <CardinalPanda>	 brion: sure! will do in a bit
[19:15:49] <jgonera>	 so when I post/edit something on mediawiki.org can I use my JGonera (WMF) account or should I create a new one?
[19:16:06] <Maryana>	 you can use your WMF account
[19:16:37] <jgonera>	 ok, thanks
[19:17:15] <Maryana>	 np :)
[19:25:01] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: JGonera; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39743
[19:42:13] <tfinc>	 brion: when  do you think we can schedule the legal app bugs like https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42967 ?
[19:42:25] <tfinc>	 as long as we get them in by mid jan i think we'll be fine
[19:42:41] <tfinc>	 brion: i'm going to take down WLM today
[19:43:28] <brion>	 tfinc: I'll probably play with the app stuff later next week once I run out of Xmas cheer. :) should have them ready to release by early in the new year; if I don't do em next week schedule for the week after.
[19:43:43] <tfinc>	 brion: thanks
[19:44:15] <brion>	 added to my todo list with schedule :D
[19:44:34] <tfinc>	 woot!
[19:55:44] <MaxSem>	 hey, Rachel stole our precious!:P
[19:56:00] <MaxSem>	 http://wikitech.wikimedia.org/index.php?title=Deployments&diff=54861&oldid=54858
[19:56:01] <MaxSem>	 I'm starting an edit war!
[20:14:14] <CardinalPanda>	 brion: from my reading of https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mobile_i18n
[20:14:25] <CardinalPanda>	 should I start planning for the Android IME stuff right away?
[20:14:43] <CardinalPanda>	 tfinc: ^
[20:14:56] <brion>	 CardinalPanda: since that'll be fun fun native work and we don't think it'll be super hard, i say yes.
[20:15:04] <brion>	 tfinc: is that still something we should keep on the list for a sprint?
[20:15:30] <CardinalPanda>	 i'm not sure how the 'app team' work is going to be prioritized, etc. Just work the old way? Try out Trello, perhaps?
[20:26:30] <brion>	 CardinalPanda: with only 2-3 of us we'll probably do ok as long as we avoid going off on shiny tangents too much :) i'm willing to work with just bugzilla and a wiki page
[20:26:51] <CardinalPanda>	 hmm, alright
[20:26:55] <CardinalPanda>	 i already have a clone of LatinIME
[20:27:01] <CardinalPanda>	 and am looking through the Android build pages
[20:29:58] <brion>	 whee
[20:43:09] <CardinalPanda>	 that's what having babies does to you, I think
[21:43:46] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: JGonera; "Just a few suggestions." [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39771
[22:08:30] <tfinc>	 jgonera: this one http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-i9100-Unlocked-Smartphone-Touchscreen/dp/B004QTBQ2C ?
[22:08:44] <tfinc>	 specifically NOT the international version
[22:09:53] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: a version of my resume sent
[22:10:04] <tfinc>	 k
[22:10:09] <yuvipanda>	 not sure what you'll think of it, but do let me know if that is not sufficient
[22:10:42] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: can you give it a glance now? If it's okay i shall head to sleep
[22:11:51] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda: its fine for now. joady will let you know if she needs anything else for Sue
[22:11:57] <yuvipanda>	 sweet
[22:11:58] <tfinc>	 i think it'll be ok
[22:11:59] <yuvipanda>	 thanks!
[22:12:07] <tfinc>	 we might have to rework it for immigration for your H1B later
[22:12:12] <tfinc>	 but thats not a worry right now
[22:12:20] <yuvipanda>	 ah, of course.
[22:12:26] <yuvipanda>	 :)
[22:12:40] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda: for instance i'll have to make your JD super boring for the government
[22:12:52] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: i've heard of that before, yeah
[22:13:01] <yuvipanda>	 that's gonna be tough :P
[22:13:23] <yuvipanda>	 tfinc: any timeline on when i might have to start thinking of all that?
[22:13:37] <tfinc>	 we have six whole months to finish it
[22:13:49] <tfinc>	 i'd say that waiting on the gov will be 3-4 months
[22:13:58] <tfinc>	 so we'll want to prep all the paperwork  in january
[22:14:23] <yuvipanda>	 wah, ok. earlier than i thought. good to know
[22:14:50] <tfinc>	 i'm doing all the paperwork up front so that come july all you have to worry about is moving
[22:14:56] <tfinc>	 rather then having to stress
[22:15:00] <tfinc>	 is the better way to do it
[22:15:04] <tfinc>	 even joady agreed
[22:15:45] <yuvipanda>	 mmmm sweet!
[22:17:06] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda: heads up that the Sue interview won't  happen till after 1/3/2013. i don't think that should stop you from working
[22:17:08] <tfinc>	 we'll get it done
[22:17:21] <yuvipanda>	 sure, works for me!
[22:17:50] <yuvipanda>	 i've started looking into the mobile IME stuff already. will update wiki page soon
[22:17:52] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda: before you sleep
[22:18:05] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda: "I can give you an hour any time between 12 noon and 3pm on 1/3"
[22:18:08] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda: what do you prefer ?
[22:18:20] <yuvipanda>	 is that PST?
[22:18:23] <tfinc>	 correct
[22:18:42] <yuvipanda>	 3pm would be too late, I can do 12 noon
[22:19:35] <tfinc>	 and thats not too late for you to do a voice call ?
[22:19:55] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda: ---^
[22:20:29] <yuvipanda>	 shouldn't be, but if there's an earlier slot on 4, or the week after that, I'll happily take that
[22:20:57] <yuvipanda>	 (can't do 5-7, have hackathon)
[22:22:33] <tfinc>	 she can do 11 - 12 on 1/3
[22:22:43] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda: --^
[22:22:52] <yuvipanda>	 i'd be happy to do that
[22:24:18] <tfinc>	 yuvipanda: done. go to bed
[22:24:25] <yuvipanda>	 :D
[22:24:26] <yuvipanda>	 gnite!
[22:27:48] <tfinc>	 jgonera: this one http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-i9100-Unlocked-Smartphone-Touchscreen/dp/B004QTBQ2C ?
[22:30:26] <jgonera>	 tfinc, I guess the warranty does not interest us?
[22:30:36] <jgonera>	 I think it would be voided anyway if I root it
[22:31:31] <tfinc>	 jgonera: correct. i rarely see them. i see an international version on amazon but i think thats the 'G' version that you *dont* want
[22:40:10] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Zfilipin; "Feel free to make the changes. I do not have the time to make the changes myself right now. I am on ..." [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39771
[22:45:02] <tfinc>	 ok. i'm winding down. taking off to pack and head out @ 3
[22:45:10] <tfinc>	 yuvis packet is done :D
[22:45:28] <tfinc>	 who thinks we should kick ban kwadhwa  ?
[22:45:31] <tfinc>	 he can't makeup his mind
[22:45:43] <tfinc>	 granted he's doing a good job of that himself
[22:45:53] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Zfilipin; "Feel free to make the change, or I can do it on Thursday." [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/39773
[22:49:27] <Krenair>	 someone should /mode #wikimedia-mobile +b kwadhwa!*@*$##fix_your_connection
[22:53:38] <MaxSem>	 who has op here?
[22:56:03] <Krenair>	 Cbrown1023, wmfgc, tomaszf and preilly
[22:56:10] <Krenair>	 According to /cs access #wikimedia-mobile list
[22:59:43] <MaxSem>	 who the hell wmfgc is?
[23:00:03] <brion>	 general counsel?
[23:00:11] <MaxSem>	 o_0
[23:00:11] <brion>	 garbage collection?
[23:00:22] <Krenair>	 It's a group account for the WM Group Contacts: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_Group_Contacts
[23:00:46] <Krenair>	 According to "/ns info wmfgc"
[23:04:07] <awjr>	 damn it
[23:04:16] <awjr>	 i totally broke my local instance of MW and i can't figure out wtf happened
[23:04:34] <Krenair>	 What's happening?
[23:04:39] <awjr>	 im getting 'Parse error: syntax error, unexpected $end in /mnt/hgfs/testing/core/includes/objectcache/SqlBagOStuff.php on line 610' but can't figure out what's actually causing that :(
[23:04:39] <Krenair>	 Errors everywhere?
[23:04:52] <awjr>	 as far as i can tell i dont have any local modifications
[23:05:33] <Krenair>	 awjr, missing {/}?
[23:06:01] <awjr>	 i dont think so Krenair, i have no staged or unstaged changes :( there might be something whacky in my localsettings i guess
[23:06:26] <MaxSem>	 git reset --hard HEAD ?
[23:06:33] <awjr>	 yep, tried it
[23:07:01] <MaxSem>	 git checkout origin/master && git reset --hard HEAD ?
[23:07:06] <Krenair>	 What commit hash are you at?
[23:07:22] <awjr>	 for core: 4c32c2779df548c6ad787e2bbd020d2befb6cb5f
[23:07:38] <MaxSem>	 git checkout origin/master && git branch -D master && git branch --track master origin/master &&  git reset --hard HEAD ?
[23:07:56] <awjr>	 that looks scary
[23:07:58] <awjr>	 i'll give it a shot
[23:08:08] <awjr>	 no change :(
[23:08:24] <MaxSem>	 git diff ?:P
[23:08:29] <awjr>	 no changes!
[23:08:33] <MaxSem>	 lies!
[23:08:38] <awjr>	 i sweat!
[23:08:38] <awjr>	 er
[23:08:39] <awjr>	 swear!
[23:08:50] <MaxSem>	 if you sweat then you lie
[23:10:24] <Krenair>	 where are yous eeing this error awjr?
[23:21:38] <awjr>	 Krenair: everywhere
[23:24:17] <awjr>	 hmm
[23:25:00] <awjr>	 i had commented out all extensions out of my localsettings, same problem. just reenabled memcache and am now getting:
[23:25:01] <awjr>	 Parse error: syntax error, unexpected T_OBJECT_OPERATOR in /mnt/hgfs/testing/core/languages/Language.php on line 4287
[23:25:24] <awjr>	 both errors barfing in the autoloader (as far as i can tell from the stack trace)
[23:27:35] <MaxSem>	 did you accidentally install PHP4?
[23:27:47] <MaxSem>	 or
[23:27:55] <MaxSem>	 OMG YOU HAVE A VIRUS!
[23:28:25] <awjr>	 lulz
[23:28:40] <Krenair>	 yeah, what php version?
[23:28:59] <awjr>	 PHP 5.3.10-1ubuntu3.4
[23:29:36] <awjr>	 to be fair, i've been messing around a lot with my local infrastructure with multiple local domain names, varnish, etc
[23:29:47] <awjr>	 but i dont see why that would cause the kinds of errors im seeing
[23:42:58] <awjr>	 sigh.
[23:57:52] <gwicke>	 MaxSem: ping
[23:58:20] <MaxSem>	 pong
[23:58:30] <gwicke>	 hey, I have a question about the API
[23:58:45] <gwicke>	 would like to get localized namespace names (and other config options) for Parsoid
[23:59:14] <gwicke>	 is there a way to do that which does not involve action=parse?
[23:59:15] <MaxSem>	 action=query&meta=siteinfo